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QB Taysom Hill, NO (5 Viewers)
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Dez
Footballguy
RTS and NFFC have him listed as a TE which is ironic because NFFC always had him as a QB until this year meanwhile FFPC famously changed him from TE to QB a week before kickoff last season right after about 10,000 best ball teams had been drafting him as a TE and they were like oops sorry you are screwed now he is a QB so if you only took 2 or 3 TE's you now only have 1 or 2.
DontPressYourBuck
Footballguy
Still has QB & TE designation on Sleeper. Ive been keeping him around as a dual ripcord I hopefully dont have to pull.
Down Under
Footballguy
You've just got to love it from a true football perspective (not fantasy)
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
To be honest I’m kind of tired of him. You know, the I’m not a QB or a TE. Hell, I don’t know what I am.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Did he play one snap at TE last year? He didn’t in any of the times I saw him, but I could be wrong. Every time I saw him he played QB and took off running 99% of the time.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Having zero shares, I’m happy to see him listed as a QB in my MFL leagues.
Dude cooked me in TWO leagues that one crazy week last year. Good riddance, I say.
Dude cooked me in TWO leagues that one crazy week last year. Good riddance, I say.
I did a google search and it sounds like he's lining up all over the place this preseason (halfback, fullback, in-line, wide).
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I was referring to the regular season and as far as I know he played QB and ran the ball, if not 100% of the time, damn close to it.
massraider
Footballguy
MFL does their last changes before the season, and then he will either be safe to cut, or a fun TE to have.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
It should be based on the previous season position played, not preseason.
Because he's listed as a QB on the Saints and official NFL website.
This is why I said earlier I felt the FFPC had the best policy, at least for national type contests where you want consistency and transparency in your rules and their rule is and always has been whatever a player is officially listed on his teams and NFL.com's website to begin the season is what his position will be.
In a private/MFL type league, I think a level of discretion is all good but really I don't know what he is which again is why I like the clean policy of designating whatever his listed position is in the league.
I'll be honest he annoys the hell out of me from a fantasy angle and from a real life angle I don't think he's a good bargain for what he brings relative to the cap, especially for a constantly cap strapped team.
You've just got to love it from a true football perspective (not fantasy)
But individidually, yeah he's pretty unique and that's nice to see, I just got stuff that obstructs me from seeing that sometimes.
Interesting debate. Where he lines up in preseason versus last season?
Top of my head I can think of Deanthony Thomas RB/WR and of course Kordell
rockaction
Footballguy
You're actually right on this one. Check what I said a few pages back.
Sleeperz
Footballguy
MFL has him listed as a QB and will not change that unless the Saints change his designation on their site in the near future. It is up to me if I want to change his position in any leagues I run according to them.
I find it a bit ironic that he has been listed as a TE on there for quite some time and yet this may very well be the first year most of his snaps won't be coming from the QB position.
I find it a bit ironic that he has been listed as a TE on there for quite some time and yet this may very well be the first year most of his snaps won't be coming from the QB position.
So where does this guy rank in the TE mix if he has that designation in leagues?
If I whiff on TE may have to grab B. Bowers late and then grab some T. Hill insurance.
And I totally forget that he is another reason why I don't want any part of Kamara. What a headache. That would make fantasy football...unfun.
If I whiff on TE may have to grab B. Bowers late and then grab some T. Hill insurance.
And I totally forget that he is another reason why I don't want any part of Kamara. What a headache. That would make fantasy football...unfun.
TheWinz
Footballguy
If you get to use Taysom's passing, rushing and receiving stats, he is a lower TE1, and if it's non PPR, he is a higher TE1. In non-PPR over the last 4 seasons, he has finished TE3, TE5, TE3, and TE7, and in 3 of those 4 seasons, he had less than 10 catches and didn't reach 100 yards receiving!
massraider
Footballguy
This is just a weird franchisex.com
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This is just a weird franchisex.com
I agree. The Taysom Hill thing is just dumb. I bet half the players in the league could do the same thing, if for some reason the coaches wanted to.
Anyone remember Jim Jenson from the Dolphins?
-OZ-
Footballguy
This is just a weird franchisex.com
I agree. The Taysom Hill thing is just dumb. I bet half the players in the league could do the same thing, if for some reason the coaches wanted to.
Anyone remember Jim Jenson from the Dolphins?
Cowboys' Micah Parsons gets a taste of life on offense in practice, demands position switch by age 30
Dallas head coach Mike McCarthy called giving Parsons RB snaps in training camp 'a terrible mistake by the head coach'
www.cbssports.com
After receiving a small taste of life on the offensive side of the ball, Parsons is thirsting for more. He in fact plans to demand a position switch in five years, if his words are to be taken seriously. He is also open to tight end, a positionMcCarthy gave him some reps at on scout team during the 2023 regular season.
"I think I'll get to a certain point in my career, maybe when I'm 30, and I'm on my way out of here, I'm going to say, 'I'm either playing offense or I'm retiring, Jerry. I'm at that end of the road. I'm either living my dream or I'm not anymore,'" Parsons said on Tuesday. "So when I'm 30 I might finally get my carry or I might play tight end like big Witt [Jason Witten]. I can block, too. I can do it all. I think on my way out of here I'll finally get my offensive dreams.''
socrates
Footballguy
Hill is an intriguing backup if your league allows you to play him at TE. However, I recall chasing those potential game-changing weeks with Kordell Stewart (a/k/a Slash). Hill has some weekly TD upside, but the real value we are all seeking is the huge potential as a TE on your fantasy team if he steps in at QB following a Derek Carr injury.
The big question is this: what role would Taysom Hill have in the offense if Carr goes down? Would it be any different? Would he leapfrog Jake Haener/Spencer Rattler and take over the starting role? I have some doubts, but it is certainly possible. Hill has been rather mediocre (statistically) as a starting QB when his number was called, but despite mediocre stats, he boasts a winning record as a starting QB. The offense would no doubt change, but Hill might give the Saints a better chance of winning in a short-term window than either Haener or Rattler. At minimum, Hill's role as a utility player might increase in the event of a Carr injury.
The big question is this: what role would Taysom Hill have in the offense if Carr goes down? Would it be any different? Would he leapfrog Jake Haener/Spencer Rattler and take over the starting role? I have some doubts, but it is certainly possible. Hill has been rather mediocre (statistically) as a starting QB when his number was called, but despite mediocre stats, he boasts a winning record as a starting QB. The offense would no doubt change, but Hill might give the Saints a better chance of winning in a short-term window than either Haener or Rattler. At minimum, Hill's role as a utility player might increase in the event of a Carr injury.
TheWinz
Footballguy
In non-PPR leagues, I don't think people realize just how valuable he is as a TE. And he doesn't need to be throwing it, and hasn't really, for the last 2 years.
2023 - He rushed for 401 yards and 4 TD's. In non-PPR, than would be 64.1 FP. That alone would make him TE21. Now let's add in his receiving yards and TD's. With 291 yards and 2 receiving TD's, that's 41.1 more FP, bringing his total to 105.2. That brings him up to TE10. Lastly, he only threw for 83 yards and 1 TD, and that is only 7.3 FP, but it bumps him up to TE7. Yes, he scored more non-PPR FP than guys like Ferguson, Kincaid, Kmet, and McBride, who all had 70+ receptions.
2022 - He rushed for 575 yards and 7 TD's. In non-PPR, that would be 99.5 FP. That alone would make him TE7. Sprinkle in his 77 receiving yards and 2 more TD's and he is up to 119.2. So, before he even throws a single pass, he is already TE5. Add another 17.5 for his 240 passing and 2 TD's, and you now have TE3, behind only Kelce and Kittle.
Over the last 2 years, in non-PPR, 66% of his points have come rushing, 24% are from receiving, and only 10% passing. Even if he hadn't had thrown a single pass over the last 2 years, he would still be a top 10 non-PPR TE.
Now, you would think he drops like a rock in PPR leagues, but that's not the case. Last year he was TE12, and in 2022 he was TE9.
For as many times as Taysom lined up at QB over the past 2 seasons, he's only had 30 pass attempts, but he has 177 rushes for 976 yards and 11 TD's.
If Carr did get hurt, I could see a scenario where Taysom gets enough field time to finish TE1, even in PPR leagues.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Yahoo updated him to QB/TE today. Was previously just QB.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
This is kind of horse plop for leagues that have already drafted. I waited forever on tight end. I guess he just becomes the next FAAB darling before the season even starts. But feels really odd to change it now after many leagues have drafted.
I agree. BS move by Yahoo doing this now as my league had its draft 2 days ago.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Indeed.This is just a weird franchisex.com
But his utilization during this preseason is intriguing, especially with the Saints' depleted backfield. He could be their best RB right now. With the first game being at home against the Panthers and their awful defense, he could post some big time points.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Would I have drafted him in auction? I’d have certainly tried. Not saying I’m sure I’d have gotten him. But I know someone would have bought him. Now it seems weird to have to blow FAAB on him… though that’s likely the fairest option to release him to the open market and let people bid what they want.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Years from now when most players will be long forgotten, the greatness of Taysom Hill will finally be appreciated.
He's the NFL version of the CFL's Chris Streveler
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’m sure his parents agree with you.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
How many snaps at TE did he make in 2023? I don’t recall any, but I could be wrong. If I’m right, making him TE eligible is BS.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Totally BS. We have already drafted and our waivers were open so I was able to grab him (my other TE is Njoku). I'm waiting for the angry messages to start coming in from league mates as they notice lol
What does last year have to do with this year?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
This year’s eligibility should start the season based on number of snaps at a position from last season. Then as a player reaches a predetermined number of snaps at a position in the current season, his eligibility at said position can change. That is the way ai think it should work. It works that way in fantasy baseball, except it’s based on number of games played at a position. Why not fantasy football? Except use number of snaps at a position, not games played.
I don't think it should work that way. If they list someone at another position, then he should at least be moved to that position, regardless of snaps played last year.
I wrote to MFL support and asked about changing Hill's position back and forth in-season. They said it was technically possible but that it could cause issues. After thinking it through, I can see where that would happen if the database/weekly scoring/whatever is based on a single position and then you change it, it could screw up previous weeks and things like that. Someone with database knowledge could give a better explanation, but I could see that happening.
I'm going to wait and see what happens in the next couple of weeks and then decide whether or not to move him to TE. I'm also considering telling the Hill owner that if I do that, that he won't be allowed to start him at TE in the event that Hill starts at QB at some point in the season.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
it’s OK to agree to disagree. In my mind you don’t get to play a position in fantasy unless you’ve played so much of the position in reality.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
The way the NO backfield looks I wouldn't be shocked if Hill is more RB/TE/QB in that order.
