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QB Tua Tagovailoa, MIA (1 Viewer)

Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa passed his physical (hip) and will be able to practice without limitations.

Coach Brian Flores made this statement immediately after proclaiming the quarterback position was open for competition. Tua was unable to participate at the NFL Combine following hip surgery, and his claims that he would be healthy enough for training camp have been proven to be true. It will be difficult for any rookie quarterback not named Joe Burrow to start Week 1 due to the total lack of preseason games, but the team obviously believes the No. 5 overall pick will elevate their offense when ready.

SOURCE: Barry Jackson on Twitter

Jul 29, 2020, 10:16 AM ET
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Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa passed his physical (hip) and will be able to practice without limitations.

Coach Brian Flores made this statement immediately after proclaiming the quarterback position was open for competition. Tua was unable to participate at the NFL Combine following hip surgery, and his claims that he would be healthy enough for training camp have been proven to be true. It will be difficult for any rookie quarterback not named Joe Burrow to start Week 1 due to the total lack of preseason games, but the team obviously believes the No. 5 overall pick will elevate their offense when ready.

SOURCE: Barry Jackson on Twitter

Jul 29, 2020, 10:16 AM ET
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This is great news.  Hip issues are very scary and have a way of ruining careers (see Bo Jackson).

 
Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa is showing "good mobility and escapability in the pocket" nine months removed from hip surgery. 

The Miami Herald's Dolphins beat writers reported the rookie has displayed "fleeting flashes of the skills that made him one of the best college quarterbacks of his generation" during practice, manipulating defenders on run-pass options. It's more good news after lingering concerns about the quarterback's recovery from surgery. Tua has been accurate in camp, though most of is throws have been short, according to the Herald beat writers. 

SOURCE: Miami Herald 

Aug 19, 2020, 1:53 PM ET
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Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa has been “slowly eased into action” at training camp.

He hasn't thrown a pass in 11-on-11 drills longer than 20 yards. The Dolphins aren’t rushing Tua, but he’s shown good mobility in limited reps coming off hip surgery. There’s not much to go off with Tua other than he’s healthy and likely to open the year in a backup role. Playing behind a bad offensive line without much of a run game, Tua may struggle if he falls into Year 1 starts.

SOURCE: ESPN

Aug 21, 2020, 6:36 PM ET
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The Miami Herald reports No. 5 overall pick Tua Tagovailoa has "has not done enough to inject himself in the starting battle." 

The paper does add that Tagovailoa has "made a handful of throws in the past week that confirm why he’s an elite NFL prospect." We would expect Tagovailoa to make 2020 starts, but all signs point toward Ryan Fitzpatrick being under center for Week 1. 

SOURCE: Miami Herald 

Aug 24, 2020, 7:13 PM ET
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Dolphins head coach Brian Flores said QB Tua Tagovailoa's dislocated hip injury from last season will play a role in picking a Week 1 starting quarterback. 

Flores' comment comes as a surprise after a month of reports saying Tagovailoa has displayed mobility in training camp. He has practiced without limitations since the beginning of August. We're not sure how much concern there is about the rookie's recovery from a major injury, but it seems Ryan Fitzpatrick is in line to start the season opener against New England. The Bearded One is a sensible late-round selection in superflex and 2-QB formats, even if fantasy managers might not get 16 games out of the veteran. 

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Ryan Fitzpatrick

SOURCE: Palm Beach Post 

Sep 1, 2020, 9:08 AM ET
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Dolphins beat writer Barry Jackson said QB Tua Tagovailoa isn't dealing with a hip injury despite the rookie's presence on the injury report. 

Jackson, who writes for the Miami Herald, said there are no lingering concerns about Tagovailoa's surgically repaired hip, and that "any player who gets treatment on specific body part must be on injury report." Jackson continued: "Treatment [is] natural 10 months after major hip injury, but team has said he's healthy and can play." Ryan Fitzpatrick will start the season under center for Miami; the rookie taking over at some point this year wouldn't surprise anyone. 

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Ryan Fitzpatrick

SOURCE: Barry Jackson on Twitter 

Sep 10, 2020, 8:20 AM ET
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The Palm Beach Post reports “it’s unlikely” Tua Tagovailoa has been tackled since hip surgery.

Tagovailoa said at the end of training camp he hadn’t been hit since college. The Dolphins removed him from the Week 2 injury report, but it’s fair to wonder how confident they are in his ability to stay healthy. Tua’s non-contact status suggests he’s not close to taking the starting role from Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick threw for 328 yards and a pair of touchdowns in a loss to Buffalo last week.

SOURCE: Palm Beach Post

Sep 23, 2020, 11:32 AM ET
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Dude wasn't hit much in college either. Excited to see what he can do in the NFL (Lamar, Kyler, Mahomeboy) dual-threat type clone?

 
Ryan Fitzpatrick Is Proving Dolphins Right in Taking Slow Approach with Tua

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"Tua can do things that I couldn't dream of doing," Fitzpatrick was quoted as saying by NFL Network play-by-play commentator Joe Buck in a pregame interview. 

However, the 22-year-old's extensive injury history had to be taken into consideration. Tagovailoa is less than a year removed from a hip dislocation that included a posterior wall fracture. At the time, his career came into question. Thankfully, the quarterback exceeded all expectations in his recovery, and doctors cleared him for all football activities in late July. 

Even so, the Dolphins are right to be cautious. While the hip injury is the most concerning part of Tagovailoa's medical history, he's also suffered a broken left index finger (his throwing hand), a sprained right knee, high ankle sprains to both legs, a broken nose and a concussion. 

Owner Stephen Ross expressed concern before Miami had the opportunity to draft the talented signal-caller. 

"I've been down there [at Alabama] to see him. He's a great player. I just worry about his health," Ross said in January, per ESPN's Cameron Wolfe. "... We'll have to look at what his health is and everything else and see what the alternatives are."

The only difference between then and now is Tagovailoa currently wears the team's aqua, orange and white uniforms. 

A healthy year could do wonders for the fearless gunslinger. As Tagovailoa's body gets right after taking a beating during consecutive seasons, there isn't much logic in playing him with a rebuilt offensive line that features four new starters, including a pair of rookies—Austin Jackson and Solomon Kindley—starting at left tackle and right guard, respectively. 

Once everything settles, especially along the front five, the thought of Tagovailoa starting makes far more sense. But in the NFL, it's rare for patience to win out when a first-round quarterback is sitting on the sidelines watching a veteran quarterback struggle.  
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It's like crickets in here.  Not a lot of positive news from HC Flores on Tua in terms of assuming the job, so I guess that's natural.

When is the right time to pull the trigger on this kid?  Dynasty formats he's already owned.  But redraft with limited keepers, he might be a good one to have.

 
greyhorse said:
It's like crickets in here.  Not a lot of positive news from HC Flores on Tua in terms of assuming the job, so I guess that's natural.

When is the right time to pull the trigger on this kid?  Dynasty formats he's already owned.  But redraft with limited keepers, he might be a good one to have.
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I've already expressed my opinion, which is that a good time for him to start by the organization would be the two Jets games separated by a bye. So you might think about the week before that. Otherwise, if you hear he's been named starter, pick him up immediately if you want him in redraft.

I'm in a similar league, with very limited keepers (drafted in round 8 or later). I targeted him (14th round) and CeeDee (8th) and have held them both. But I have the luxury of having Mahomes as my starter, so I don't need to carry a backup.  Tua is just a completely speculative hold for next season.  (I actually wanted Burrow, but he went in the 11th before I could pull the trigger).

 
Truebluey said:
I've already expressed my opinion, which is that a good time for him to start by the organization would be the two Jets games separated by a bye. So you might think about the week before that. Otherwise, if you hear he's been named starter, pick him up immediately if you want him in redraft.

I'm in a similar league, with very limited keepers (drafted in round 8 or later). I targeted him (14th round) and CeeDee (8th) and have held them both. But I have the luxury of having Mahomes as my starter, so I don't need to carry a backup.  Tua is just a completely speculative hold for next season.  (I actually wanted Burrow, but he went in the 11th before I could pull the trigger).
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Yes, agree.  Similar situation.  I have Mahomes and not carrying a backup a well.  Need upgrades everywhere on my team so ideally we see Tua perform well and I trade away Mahomes (who isn't keeper eligible).  If Tua doesn't get in, then obviously I keep Mahomes.  Jets games are week 10 and 12, which would be great for Mahomes week 10 bye.

Fitz knows he's just keeping the seat warm as he has pretty much his entire career.  At some point, there will be public swell to play Tua.  Flores doesn't seem to care.  And it's not like the fans can just not show up as to make a point, because this is a pandemic season.  Often times it will be the owner that decides he wants to see what they got.  I'm hoping that time is sooner than later just because it seems like Tua will be a fun one to watch.

 
greyhorse said:
Yes, agree.  Similar situation.  I have Mahomes and not carrying a backup a well.  Need upgrades everywhere on my team so ideally we see Tua perform well and I trade away Mahomes (who isn't keeper eligible).  If Tua doesn't get in, then obviously I keep Mahomes.  Jets games are week 10 and 12, which would be great for Mahomes week 10 bye.

Fitz knows he's just keeping the seat warm as he has pretty much his entire career.  At some point, there will be public swell to play Tua.  Flores doesn't seem to care.  And it's not like the fans can just not show up as to make a point, because this is a pandemic season.  Often times it will be the owner that decides he wants to see what they got.  I'm hoping that time is sooner than later just because it seems like Tua will be a fun one to watch.
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Before the Jets they play:

@SF

@DEN

LAC

LAR

Those are some really good defenses (Broncos are always tough at home) that I'd rather not see Tua trying to figure out in his first NFL starts.  I don't want to see him before week 9/10 honestly.

 
greyhorse said:
It's like crickets in here.  Not a lot of positive news from HC Flores on Tua in terms of assuming the job, so I guess that's natural.
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The Chargers said the same thing before being forced to play Herbert.  I'm hoping that's all it is and not any uneasiness with his hip or other physical issues from Alabama.

 
Faust said:
The Miami Herald reports No. 5 overall pick Tua Tagovailoa has "has not done enough to inject himself in the starting battle." 

The paper does add that Tagovailoa has "made a handful of throws in the past week that confirm why he’s an elite NFL prospect." We would expect Tagovailoa to make 2020 starts, but all signs point toward Ryan Fitzpatrick being under center for Week 1. 

SOURCE: Miami Herald 

Aug 24, 2020, 7:13 PM ET
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TripleThreat said:
The easiest way to quell a QB controversy is by saying the other guy isn't ready
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Interesting comment, I understand why you might be a skeptic of Flores and Miami right now in what they are saying. You watch the Phins weekly yes/no? I believe you usually chime in on the Miami thread. 

My eyes agree with Flores but my brain also understands why you feel this way or just looking thru a different pair of glasses you might see things differently. 

I still feel the OL will get him killed right now. 

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
Interesting comment, I understand why you might be a skeptic of Flores and Miami right now in what they are saying. You watch the Phins weekly yes/no? I believe you usually chime in on the Miami thread. 

My eyes agree with Flores but my brain also understands why you feel this way or just looking thru a different pair of glasses you might see things differently. 

I still feel the OL will get him killed right now. 
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I agree with the curtent oline being a big risk for Tua. Fitzpatrick is very good at avoiding the rush and making plays. That is not Tua's strength, or at least I doubt if his escapability was tested much at Alabama. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Interesting comment, I understand why you might be a skeptic of Flores and Miami right now in what they are saying. You watch the Phins weekly yes/no? I believe you usually chime in on the Miami thread. 

My eyes agree with Flores but my brain also understands why you feel this way or just looking thru a different pair of glasses you might see things differently. 

I still feel the OL will get him killed right now. 
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indeed I do, MOP.  Fitz hasn't played up to the standards he set last year, no one with eyes can dispute that and Fitz agrees...with beat writers and fans are clamoring for Tua I believe Flores played the game and quelled the QB questions in the easiest way he could.  If Fitz converts even 2 of those drives into TD's he doesn't get the same volume of QB questions.

That said, I'm a believer in Flores... think the OL is better than people give it credit for... that Tua will get time this year and quite frankly I hope Fitz starts converting drives and winning games so the questions don't arise and Tua doesn't end up starting until the last bit of the season.  

 
zeeshan2 said:
Dolphins make Tua their starting QB after the bye week
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From an outsiders perspective, such an odd move by the Dolphins.

They are 3-3 and a game back in their division after the Bills lost last night. Finally the patriots are dog #### and Fitz is leading the team to wins.

I don’t like that move at all. Let your freshmen QB sit and learn from someone who’s playing well. And get his hip right. Tua is the future, but that doesn’t mean the future has to start now.

 
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Dolphins will start first-round rookie Tua Tagovailoa in Week 8 against the Rams.

This decision is so abrupt that it had to be the organization's blueprint all along. Ryan Fitzpatrick has played well to this point, engineering the Dolphins to a 3-3 record with 1,670 total yards and a 70% completion rate through six games, but Tagovailoa was always the heir to the throne at some point this year — that point being when the team returns from its bye in Week 8. Tagovailoa should be scooped up for 2-QB and SuperFlex leagues as early as the next waivers run. 

RELATED: 

Ryan Fitzpatrick

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Oct 20, 2020, 9:53 AM ET
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VikingFrog said:
From an outsiders perspective, such an odd move by the Dolphins.

They are 3-3 and a game back in their division after the Bills lost last night. Finally the patriots are dog #### and Fitz is leading the team to wins.

I don’t like that move at all. Let your freshmen QB sit and learn from someone who’s playing well. And get his hip right. Tua is the future, but that doesn’t mean the future has to start now.
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Tua is their future, not Fitz.. I get your point, but Miami isn't winning the Super bowl or even a playoff team right now.. NE and Buffalo are still both better. NE has to get healthy. 

I feel bad for Fitz as he is playing real well, but he knew when Tua was drafted it was his job.

 
Unbelievable but I understand it. 

They have Ryan Fitzpatrick now to come in off the bench any time and no one is going to be mad. It's perfect!

 
If they really wanted to ease him into the NFL, they should have let him start again the Jets. Probably a step down in competition from his time at Alabama.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Unbelievable but I understand it. 

They have Ryan Fitzpatrick now to come in off the bench any time and no one is going to be mad. It's perfect!
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It is somewhat unbelievable.  Do we think it helps/hurts any fantasy pieces on Miami?

Gaskin, Parker, Gesicki, Williams?  Seems like a downgrade for most of them. At least initially.

 
Truebluey said:
It is somewhat unbelievable.  Do we think it helps/hurts any fantasy pieces on Miami?

Gaskin, Parker, Gesicki, Williams?  Seems like a downgrade for most of them. At least initially.
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I would think Gesicki could benefit the most if they game plan correctly 

 
VikingFrog said:
From an outsiders perspective, such an odd move by the Dolphins.

They are 3-3 and a game back in their division after the Bills lost last night. Finally the patriots are dog #### and Fitz is leading the team to wins.

I don’t like that move at all. Let your freshmen QB sit and learn from someone who’s playing well. And get his hip right. Tua is the future, but that doesn’t mean the future has to start now.
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I largely agree with this statement.  The Dolphins could simply give Tua a majority of the practice reps, but continue to play Fitzpatrick in games.  If the Dolphins continue to win, so be it.  However, Fitz has proven time and time again that he will eventually hit a wall and have a horrible game or two in a row.  When that occurs, then make the change.  This doesn't seem like the ideal way to get the rookie out there.

Of course, one great game out of the gate and none of this will matter.  He seems like a great kid, best of luck to him.

 
Truebluey said:
It is somewhat unbelievable.  Do we think it helps/hurts any fantasy pieces on Miami?

Gaskin, Parker, Gesicki, Williams?  Seems like a downgrade for most of them. At least initially.
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For sure, at least from the "We Don't Know", he could like Isaih Ford the most of his stable of WRs, we really don't know but it's exciting and perhaps what is a downgrade for a couple weeks is blowing and going by Week 10. 

 
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