QUIZ: Are You Smart Enough to Get Into Private Kindergarten? (1 Viewer)

[NCCommish]

That article is both ridiculous and horrifying. Really this is what we are putting kids through now? 4 year olds need 200 dollar a session instruction to get into a kindergarten? These people are insane.

You don't expect politicians and other rich people to send their kids to public school do you?

I'm just pissed I didn't get in on the ground floor of this grift. Fleecing those with more money than sense is an American tradition.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

That article is both ridiculous and horrifying. Really this is what we are putting kids through now? 4 year olds need 200 dollar a session instruction to get into a kindergarten? These people are insane.

You don't expect politicians and other rich people to send their kids to public school do you?

I'm just pissed I didn't get in on the ground floor of this grift. Fleecing those with more money than sense is an American tradition.

So true.

 

[Sarnoff]

5/5. I'd be ####### aces in kindergarten.

 

[bushdocda]

Went 0/2 and then quit. No shame in my game.

 

[NCCommish]

Went 0/2 and then quit. No shame in my game.

If you'd like to do better or have a child you don't want to burden with a life of serf like work I can help. For 200 an hour session I can get you to a passing grade. I am thinking 5-10 sessions should do it. Prepaid of course.

 

[DaVinci]

5-5

#1 had me shuked because I couldn't see how the bottom row of flags fit the pattern. It was #2 that made me realize the bottom row was the list of answers.

 

[northern exposure]

That article is both ridiculous and horrifying. Really this is what we are putting kids through now? 4 year olds need 200 dollar a session instruction to get into a kindergarten? These people are insane.

Easy to determine who didn't do well on the test.

 

[TheIronSheik]

3 out of 5. Whatever. That was dumb.

Me too. I have a high IQ and am considered a very good problem solver. Yet I had no clue what was going on in those first two questions.

Is your IQ higher than 176 though?

It is not. Not even close.

 

[TheIronSheik]

What's the pattern in #1? Public schools for me.

The visual is set up terribly. The bottom row of flags aren't part of the pattern, they're just the four choices for the missing flag. I couldn't figure it out either. Just look at the top row. The pattern is pretty simple.

Well, I'm an idiot. I thought the whole thing was the pattern and I was completely stumped. That makes a lot more sense.

 

[Ilov80s]

What's the pattern in #1? Public schools for me.

The visual is set up terribly. The bottom row of flags aren't part of the pattern, they're just the four choices for the missing flag. I couldn't figure it out either. Just look at the top row. The pattern is pretty simple.

Well, I'm an idiot. I thought the whole thing was the pattern and I was completely stumped. That makes a lot more sense.

That's probably part of the test, can you even understand what is going on.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I missed the 2nd one. I took a wonderlick for a job interview once and scored something like 41. #### that test.

By the way, I'm amazed the ERB is now $58 in NYC and available online or iPad. I paid around $800 a few years ago. Then enrolled in a public school, naturally.

 

[stbugs]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

 

[Jayrok]

That was child's play. Where are the big rides.. the really big ones?

 

[Sarnoff]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

What?

 

[Mr.Pack]

Ok the second one. Where is the missing piece supposed to go? I so confused.

Where the ? is

 

[Mr.Pack]

I have no idea about #2

I got it correct, but it was a total guess

 

[Mr.Pack]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

That was #2.

you really failed

 

[Rove!]

#2

Square, circle, circle

circle, square, circle

circle, circle, ?

=SQUARE

Open, open left, quartered

open left, quartered, open

quartered, open, ?

= OPEN LEFT

a: Square open left

 

[Sarnoff]

#2

Square, circle, circle

circle, square, circle

circle, circle, ?

=SQUARE

Open, open left, quartered

open left, quartered, open

quartered, open, ?

= OPEN LEFT

a: Square open left

Kindergarteners would be expected to know the difference between a circle and an oval

 

[Borden]

Does someone read the kids the instructions and questions? Because if they can read before they get to kindergarden they shouldn't even need to do this test. I'm pretty sure when I went to kindergarden the two big things were; Don't throw blocks at other children and don't glue your face to the table.

This test doesn't show anything unless the kids have been taught how to solve these problems. Intelligence, IMO, is how quickly a person can learn what is being taught and how well they can apply those learnt skills to a problem.

 

[Ilov80s]

Does someone read the kids the instructions and questions? Because if they can read before they get to kindergarden they shouldn't even need to do this test. I'm pretty sure when I went to kindergarden the two big things were; Don't throw blocks at other children and don't glue your face to the table.

This test doesn't show anything unless the kids have been taught how to solve these problems. Intelligence, IMO, is how quickly a person can learn what is being taught and how well they can apply those learnt skills to a problem.

This is just a small part of a test of intelligence and pattern recognition is one of the areas least influenced by prior knowledge. The grocery question definitely assumes prior knowledge though.

 

[The Kerminator]

What's it mean if I got distracted before I even finished question #1?

Squirrel!

 

[stbugs]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

That was #2.

you really failed

No, it wasn't there were actually 2 tests. Your are referring to the test on the link in the OP. If you click on the link in the middle of that page (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130410/new-york-city/how-get-your-4-year-old-into-gifted-talented-program) there is an interactive image at the top with a second test. I clicked on that link first. I just did the other one and got all 5 pretty easily. The comments above are about question number 5 in the interactive image. It is similar to #2 on the other one, but I think the answer they say is right is wrong.

Try that one and let me know what you think.

 

[El Floppo]

That article is both ridiculous and horrifying. Really this is what we are putting kids through now? 4 year olds need 200 dollar a session instruction to get into a kindergarten? These people are insane.

You don't expect politicians and other rich people to send their kids to public school do you?

I'm just pissed I didn't get in on the ground floor of this grift. Fleecing those with more money than sense is an American tradition.

So true.

Except here in NYC, it's not just the people applying to private schools doing these training courses. There's a public school Gifted and Talented test that is very similar to this one... and I know a ton of public school parents who paid to have their kids prepped to take the damned thing. (floppo jr was not, and has gotten 99 every time he's taken any of these ... 4x and counting at this point ). I find the latter even more disgusting since it's further culling out the remainder of the haves and have-nots. The people I know who paid to prep are people who can pretty much afford private schools... but opt for the free public, taking spots from kids from families who don't have any options.

 

[El Floppo]

Does someone read the kids the instructions and questions? Because if they can read before they get to kindergarden they shouldn't even need to do this test. I'm pretty sure when I went to kindergarden the two big things were; Don't throw blocks at other children and don't glue your face to the table.

This test doesn't show anything unless the kids have been taught how to solve these problems. Intelligence, IMO, is how quickly a person can learn what is being taught and how well they can apply those learnt skills to a problem.

yes- the tests are administered one-on-one with adult reading all the questions to the kid and having them point to the right answer, IIRC- I don't think the kid even has to fill in the bubble.

 

[El Floppo]

I missed the 2nd one. I took a wonderlick for a job interview once and scored something like 41. #### that test.

By the way, I'm amazed the ERB is now $58 in NYC and available online or iPad. I paid around $800 a few years ago. Then enrolled in a public school, naturally.

now if only the damned Hunter test wasn't so expensive.

 

[jb1020]

Went 0/2 and then quit. No shame in my game.

same here. My Mississippi Public education clearly kicking in, but my wife is hot and makes twice as much money as I do. They don't teach that in private school folks.

 

[El Floppo]

Went 0/2 and then quit. No shame in my game.

same here. My Mississippi Public education clearly kicking in, but my wife is hot and makes twice as much money as I do. They don't teach that in private school folks.

that's basically the core curriculum of private school.

 

[Sarnoff]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

That was #2.

you really failed

No, it wasn't there were actually 2 tests. Your are referring to the test on the link in the OP. If you click on the link in the middle of that page (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130410/new-york-city/how-get-your-4-year-old-into-gifted-talented-program) there is an interactive image at the top with a second test. I clicked on that link first. I just did the other one and got all 5 pretty easily. The comments above are about question number 5 in the interactive image. It is similar to #2 on the other one, but I think the answer they say is right is wrong.

Try that one and let me know what you think.

I agree either B or C are valid answers. C works if you read across the rows, as each horizontal row has 1 solid shape, 1 2-part shape, and 1 4-part shape. B works if you read down the columns, as each vertical column has 1 solid shape and then 2 shapes of the same breakdown--either both 2-part or both 4-part--and 2 shapes of the same kind--1 square/2 diamonds, 1 diamond/2 circles, and then 1 diamond/2 circles again.

 

[stbugs]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

That was #2.

you really failed

No, it wasn't there were actually 2 tests. Your are referring to the test on the link in the OP. If you click on the link in the middle of that page (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130410/new-york-city/how-get-your-4-year-old-into-gifted-talented-program) there is an interactive image at the top with a second test. I clicked on that link first. I just did the other one and got all 5 pretty easily. The comments above are about question number 5 in the interactive image. It is similar to #2 on the other one, but I think the answer they say is right is wrong.

Try that one and let me know what you think.

I agree either B or C are valid answers. C works if you read across the rows, as each horizontal row has 1 solid shape, 1 2-part shape, and 1 4-part shape. B works if you read down the columns, as each vertical column has 1 solid shape and then 2 shapes of the same breakdown--either both 2-part or both 4-part--and 2 shapes of the same kind--1 square/2 diamonds, 1 diamond/2 circles, and then 1 diamond/2 circles again.

I think C is the correct answer. I think in rows, the patterns make sense in every fashion.

B sort of makes sense as you said, but there is one big issue. One of the non-solid shapes is matching the solid shape in the first two columns, i.e. squares in column one, circles in column two, so since the solid is a diamond in column 3 and there is a circle in column 3, the last shape should be a yellow diamond, not a yellow circle.

ETA: Also, even if you look at it in columns, you should have to respect the rows as well (like Sudoku) and in the first two rows there is one of each shape, so putting a circle in the 3rd row shouldn't happen.

Anyway, just a nit-pick I guess, but IMHO C is a correct answer and B is correct if you ignore other parts of the pattern.

 

[culdeus]

That article is both ridiculous and horrifying. Really this is what we are putting kids through now? 4 year olds need 200 dollar a session instruction to get into a kindergarten? These people are insane.

$200 is nothing. If you apply to several schools you are looking at dropping a couple of grand. And PK test tutors run in the 75-150/hr range.

Prepping and apply for K can run upwards of $10k. Easy.

 

[NCCommish]

That article is both ridiculous and horrifying. Really this is what we are putting kids through now? 4 year olds need 200 dollar a session instruction to get into a kindergarten? These people are insane.

$200 is nothing. If you apply to several schools you are looking at dropping a couple of grand. And PK test tutors run in the 75-150/hr range.

Prepping and apply for K can run upwards of $10k. Easy.

My prep consisted of showing up. This is utterly, completely and truly ridiculous.

 

[chet]

Can someone post direct links to both tests? Trying to find them in those stories is making my eyes bleed.

I did the one with the grocery checkout as question 5 and found them easy.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Can someone post direct links to both tests? Trying to find them in those stories is making my eyes bleed.

I did the one with the grocery checkout as question 5 and found them easy.

Finding them is the third test. :FAIL:

 

[tommyboy]

you wanna mess with a kindergartner? take a short wide glass and a tall skinny glass put them on the table, empty,.

then get two equal size glasses, fill them 2/3rd with water to equal amounts. Put them on the table in front of snot nosed kid. Ask them which glass has more water in it, or if they have the same amount? They'll say "same".

then, right in front of their stupid little face, you pour the waters into the other glasses at the same time. Right In Front Of Their FACE!

then ask little Einstein, which one has more water in it? ####-for-brains will say the tall skinny one, Every Single Time. Then you are free to laugh in the kids face.

 

[Rove!]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

That was #2.

you really failed

No, it wasn't there were actually 2 tests. Your are referring to the test on the link in the OP. If you click on the link in the middle of that page (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130410/new-york-city/how-get-your-4-year-old-into-gifted-talented-program) there is an interactive image at the top with a second test. I clicked on that link first. I just did the other one and got all 5 pretty easily. The comments above are about question number 5 in the interactive image. It is similar to #2 on the other one, but I think the answer they say is right is wrong.

Try that one and let me know what you think.

I agree either B or C are valid answers. C works if you read across the rows, as each horizontal row has 1 solid shape, 1 2-part shape, and 1 4-part shape. B works if you read down the columns, as each vertical column has 1 solid shape and then 2 shapes of the same breakdown--either both 2-part or both 4-part--and 2 shapes of the same kind--1 square/2 diamonds, 1 diamond/2 circles, and then 1 diamond/2 circles again.

I can see that the colors follow a pattern. The shapes and splits, don't follow any pattern that i can see

 

[El Floppo]

you wanna mess with a kindergartner? take a short wide glass and a tall skinny glass put them on the table, empty,.

then get two equal size glasses, fill them 2/3rd with water to equal amounts. Put them on the table in front of snot nosed kid. Ask them which glass has more water in it, or if they have the same amount? They'll say "same".

then, right in front of their stupid little face, you pour the waters into the other glasses at the same time. Right In Front Of Their FACE!

then ask little Einstein, which one has more water in it? ####-for-brains will say the tall skinny one, Every Single Time. Then you are free to laugh in the kids face.

 

[dwarfboy]

5 of 5 and it wasn't at all hard. I have to wonder if 4 year olds read well enough to do anything more than pick patterns. I mean are they really sitting for multiple choice tests with #2 pencils or are they showing pattern recognition using blocks, touch screens or something?

 

[El Floppo]

5 of 5 and it wasn't at all hard. I have to wonder if 4 year olds read well enough to do anything more than pick patterns. I mean are they really sitting for multiple choice tests with #2 pencils or are they showing pattern recognition using blocks, touch screens or something?

again, the kids sit one-on-one at a table with an adult who administers the test. The adult reads everything out loud to the kid to make sure they understand the question and IIRC, the adult also fills in the bubbles. I'm pretty sure the test also covers some common knowledge things like: colors, numbers, letters, and other basic vocab/knowledge.

As 4yos, the kids are not expected to read or write anything.

 

[Jayrok]

I'm confused on #5. I guessed the square with half yellow, i.e. C, and it said B was the correct answer. I don't get it. Both the top two rows have one circle, one diamond and one square and they both have one solid purple and one blue pattern and one yellow pattern. They also have either a solid, split in 2 or a split in 4 pattern.

In the 3rd row, we already have one solid purple and one blue, so it needs to be a yellow. We also have one circle and one diamond, so it should be a square. We also have one solid and one split in 4 pattern, so it should be a square with yellow and with a split in 2 pattern, i.e. C. B would give the third row two circles and two split in four patterns.

What the heck am I missing?

That was #2.

you really failed

No, it wasn't there were actually 2 tests. Your are referring to the test on the link in the OP. If you click on the link in the middle of that page (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130410/new-york-city/how-get-your-4-year-old-into-gifted-talented-program) there is an interactive image at the top with a second test. I clicked on that link first. I just did the other one and got all 5 pretty easily. The comments above are about question number 5 in the interactive image. It is similar to #2 on the other one, but I think the answer they say is right is wrong.

Try that one and let me know what you think.

I agree either B or C are valid answers. C works if you read across the rows, as each horizontal row has 1 solid shape, 1 2-part shape, and 1 4-part shape. B works if you read down the columns, as each vertical column has 1 solid shape and then 2 shapes of the same breakdown--either both 2-part or both 4-part--and 2 shapes of the same kind--1 square/2 diamonds, 1 diamond/2 circles, and then 1 diamond/2 circles again.

I think C is the correct answer. I think in rows, the patterns make sense in every fashion.

B sort of makes sense as you said, but there is one big issue. One of the non-solid shapes is matching the solid shape in the first two columns, i.e. squares in column one, circles in column two, so since the solid is a diamond in column 3 and there is a circle in column 3, the last shape should be a yellow diamond, not a yellow circle.

ETA: Also, even if you look at it in columns, you should have to respect the rows as well (like Sudoku) and in the first two rows there is one of each shape, so putting a circle in the 3rd row shouldn't happen.

Anyway, just a nit-pick I guess, but IMHO C is a correct answer and B is correct if you ignore other parts of the pattern.

C is the only answer that seems to make sense. If you look at it like Sudoku, C is the only answer that fits either way or diagonally.

 

[jon_mx]

What's the pattern in #1? Public schools for me.

The visual is set up terribly. The bottom row of flags aren't part of the pattern, they're just the four choices for the missing flag. I couldn't figure it out either. Just look at the top row. The pattern is pretty simple.

yeah, that's dumb too

Good grief. I spent my time trying to figure out the pattern of the bottom row and could not make much sense of it. Why put the answers on the boat when they are repeated in the answers below? I guess you need the $200 class to figure out what the questions are even asking.