Raiders trade up to #6? (1 Viewer)

[mike11162]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

 

[Aaronur]

They said the Raiders will know if we are fielding calls. They will try to put the squeeze on the Raiders so the Niners can get the guy they want and an extra pick.

 

[Spartans Rule]

It would be out of fear of the 49ers trading down. That's probably why this rumor's being circulated. SF is trying to drum up interest so that if Young does fall, they can get Oakland to pay.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

This is the 2nd trade rumor involving the Raiders. Big Al must be hard at work.

 

[mike11162]

Yeah, I kind of answered my own question. Of course, it's possible they could trade down, but if they really have a guy in mind already they want, they probably won't trade down because the teams that need a qb prospect most would probably be too low for the 49ers to get their guy. I mean, who else most likely would look to move up possibly; Arizona, Minnesota, maybe Baltimore but I doubt them. If SF were looking just for more picks like that, wouldn't they just have swapped #6 for Denver's 2 firsts? I think I read they were offered that and turned it down.

So I'm not buying the rumor. If I'm GM of Oakland, I'd call their bluff.

 

[radballs.]

So I'm not buying the rumor. If I'm GM of Oakland, I'd call their bluff.

This is the right answer. Let someone else take Young. That means Hawk or Davis fell to you. I take this in a heartbeat. Damn, I hate how much that coin flip meant vs. the 49ers.

 

[Bri]

This is the 2nd trade rumor involving the Raiders. Big Al must be hard at work.

The Raiders always have older or re-tread QBs and so this has happenned every year for as long as I can remember. I think the last QB they picked early was Marinovich a long time ago. It never happens but is always fun because "what if this is the year" thoughts come in.

 

[Aaronur]

So I'm not buying the rumor. If I'm GM of Oakland, I'd call their bluff.

This is the right answer. Let someone else take Young. That means Hawk or Davis fell to you. I take this in a heartbeat. Damn, I hate how much that coin flip meant vs. the 49ers.

Thats funny because I couldn't have been happier with how meaningful it was.I don't think the Niners would have any problem trading down in the Top 10 and the trade with Denver has nothing to do with that. I think they feel like trading up to the high 20's gets them in position to draft a possition that they feel would have been depleated by their second round pick. I think that is OLB. Trading down in the top 10 would still give them a shot at VD or another player that would be a good fit, Bunkley or Huff I would think.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

It would be comedy if the Raiders make that trade and draft Vernon Davis. 9ers would be hating that for a long time.

 

[Demons]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

It would be comedy if the Raiders make that trade and draft Vernon Davis. 9ers would be hating that for a long time.

 

[Donnybrook]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

The Browns traded up from 7 to 6 for Winslow. IIRC, it cost them a 1st and 2nd.

 

[massraider]

Scott McCloughan playing secret agent man with Al Davis is a joke.

 

[cstu]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

It would be comedy if the Raiders make that trade and draft Vernon Davis. 9ers would be hating that for a long time.

As a Chargers fan I wouldn't be too happy with that joke.

 

[Spartans Rule]

So I'm not buying the rumor. If I'm GM of Oakland, I'd call their bluff.

This is the right answer. Let someone else take Young. That means Hawk or Davis fell to you. I take this in a heartbeat. Damn, I hate how much that coin flip meant vs. the 49ers.

On the other hand...If the Raiders think Vince Young is going to be an elite NFL QB, they'd be silly not to give up a 4th-rounder to lock him up. Very few teams will chance it with a franchise QB, and the 49ers may want to take advantage of that.

Of course we have no idea if Oakland thinks that way of Young, or if he'll even be there.

 

[radballs.]

So I'm not buying the rumor. If I'm GM of Oakland, I'd call their bluff.

This is the right answer. Let someone else take Young. That means Hawk or Davis fell to you. I take this in a heartbeat. Damn, I hate how much that coin flip meant vs. the 49ers.

On the other hand...If the Raiders think Vince Young is going to be an elite NFL QB, they'd be silly not to give up a 4th-rounder to lock him up. Very few teams will chance it with a franchise QB, and the 49ers may want to take advantage of that.

Of course we have no idea if Oakland thinks that way of Young, or if he'll even be there.

This is what I'm thinking Oakland truly believes right now after hearing multiple interviews with some of their staff during local radio interviews over the last couple of months. The team is NOT in a rebuilding mode despite it's poor finishes the last couple of years. They want to win NOW. Al Davis does not have the patience to draft a QB that needs grooming even if he has star potential. Aaron Brooks is a stop gap for 1 but most likely 2 years. They are very high on Andrew Walter for 2008. They really want their first round pick to be a key contributor in 2006. I understand that teams are blowing smoke screens at this time of year. But, most of these discussions and interviews originated prior to the combine. I really don't know why so many mocks have Young going to the Raiders. As a homer, I just can't see it given the FA addition of Brooks and the fact that they like Walter. They have so many defensive needs that they just don't have the ability to use an early 1st rounder on someone who may not contribute for years. Here's to hoping Hawk or Vernon Davis slips to us.

All you mockers, just keep slotting Young to the Raiders at 7 and I'll eat my crow sandwich when it actually happens. I actually don't think Young will still be on the board by then. I can see TEN and NYJ going QB or trading with a team that has 2 QBs taken before the Raiders even make their first pick.

 

[Crippler]

who says that SF is in the position to trade the rights to Young anyways. Maybe up to Green Bay if Mario Williams is not there and the draft goes Bush/Williams/Leinart/Brick. GB could easily move down to the 7th to get Hawk/Davis and let Raiders move up there. Or see who else wants to move up and get more. I think only Young going in top 4 or a surpirse like Hawk will not have the Packers thinking trade down with Davis or Young the target of teams.

 

[Texasmouth]

there is no logical pattern to the thought process of Al Davis. It wouldn't shock me if he traded to #2 or traded out of the first round all together. You never know what this guy is going to do.

 

[Sabertooth]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

A more likely scenario would be trading up to 5. The Packers have said on record that they are seriously considering Vince at the 5 hole.

 

[massraider]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

A more likely scenario would be trading up to 5. The Packers have said on record that they are seriously considering Vince at the 5 hole.

Eeeh, that smells like smoke to me. Hard to imagine a team taking QB's back to back in the first round. Personally, I think aside from Bush, this is the easiest slot to project.#5: AJ Hawk. I think the Pack has to be locked on Hawk.

 

[cstu]

From KFFL:

49ers | Team could trade with the Raiders – if Young is available

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers' vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan is not ruling out the possibility that the 49ers and Oakland Raiders could end up speaking during the NFL Draft Saturday, April 29, especially if Texas QB Vince Young is still available when the 49ers pick at No. 6. "If he does fall to six, we're going to field some calls, and they (the Raiders) are going to know that," McCloughan said. "If that's the guy they've pinpointed, they're not going to want to miss out on him." The Raiders would likely have to part with their first- and fourth-round picks (No. 101 overall) to get the No. 6.

My question; why in the world would Oakland do this? 49ers aren't taking a qb there. Unless it's fear 49ers trade down with another team. Seems like they'd just be giving away a 4th rounder for nothing if this were true.

A more likely scenario would be trading up to 5. The Packers have said on record that they are seriously considering Vince at the 5 hole.

Eeeh, that smells like smoke to me. Hard to imagine a team taking QB's back to back in the first round. Personally, I think aside from Bush, this is the easiest slot to project.#5: AJ Hawk. I think the Pack has to be locked on Hawk.

If they are taking a QB at #5, why would it not be they guy who reminds everyone of Favre?

 

[uwgb96]

Eeeh, that smells like smoke to me. Hard to imagine a team taking QB's back to back in the first round. Personally, I think aside from Bush, this is the easiest slot to project.#5: AJ Hawk. I think the Pack has to be locked on Hawk.

I think it's definitely a smoke-screen, but I also don't think Hawk is a given. I think Thompson is really looking to trade down unless Mario is there. The LB talent is VERY deep and they will probably go that direction in the 2nd, maybe multiple times if they pick up extra 2nd and/or 3rd round picks.

 

[uwgb96]

If they are taking a QB at #5, why would it not be they guy who reminds everyone of Favre?

The problem is, the heir apparant will have to get out from Favre's shadow. The comparisons will always be there with a guy like Cutler. With Young, you are going a completely different direction.