Ran a 10k in June (7 Viewers)

[tri-man 47]

I did 16 yesterday. It was terrible.Theres a 3 1/4 mile loop around campus that I like to run when the weather is nice, so I started off with that. The problem is that we were getting ~30 mph winds, so no matter what I did I was stuck running into that headwind for a significant distance. I found that it also bothered me as a crosswind, since it would tend to lean to compensate for the wind and thus screw up my form. So after 9.75 miles, I decided to go inside and run on the track.The first 3 miles on the track felt great. Too great. I ran way too fast, with my first track mile coming in at 8:30, at least one full minute faster than what I should be training at. I slowed down somewhat, but about halfway through mile 15 my energy level plummetted and it was all I could do to finish the last mile. I suppose if it had been a race day where I was more highly motivated and had somebody to pace off of, I could have done maybe another couple of miles, but if it had been marathon day this defnitely would have been a DNF. That's very discouraging because I did 15 a week ago with no problems. I can't wait for my long run this weekend to redeem myself.

It's fair to blame it on the strong wind, so don't beat yourself too much. We actually had a nice day in Chicago yesterday (40+ degrees, mild west wind, sunny skies), and I got in a good 18 mile run (maybe 18.5, checking maps later). I could definitely feel it after a strong pace run on Saturday, but that's the idea of the training schedule.IK, you did 15 last week, 16 this week, and you're planning a long run next week, too? Are you throttling back every few weeks as you build up? Just askin'.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

IK, you did 15 last week, 16 this week, and you're planning a long run next week, too? Are you throttling back every few weeks as you build up? Just askin'.

I'm following HH's novice marathon schedule, which calls for a stepback next week with a long run of 12 miles. I'm thinking of re-doing the 16 miler instead, but I dunno. Part of it is that I've been doing my long runs on Sundays (first of the week) but the race is on a Saturday, so I eventually want to switch over to doing my long runs on the last day of the week. If I did a 16 mile run this Sunday, and then followed that up with my regularly scheduled long run the following Saturday (18), that would give me almost two weeks in between long runs, which is sort of like a stepback. And it would be a nice confidence-booster.Advice?

 

[pigskinliquors]

My typical long-run schedule (last 9 weeks) goes:

14

16

10

18

10

20

10

8

26.2!

 

[MelvinTScupper]

5 more today

Good job today

5 is the trouble number. Now that I'm past that, should be good to go.

I hear you there. I did my first 6 mile run last Sunday and another today. Next week I'll be up to 7 for my long run, so things are starting to escalate into uncharted territory.Are you training for a specific event or just getting in shape?

Both.Running Grandma's Marathon in late June. I've done one before (10 years ago, when I was 29) so I'm not trying to set a PR, just using it to get in shape. If I put in the mileage, I'll lose 20-25 lbs.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

5 more today

Good job today

5 is the trouble number. Now that I'm past that, should be good to go.

Will you expand on why 5 is the trouble number?

To me it's the only mileage that is a mental hurdle. Once you're comfortable with 5, it seems the larger numbers breeze off. I'm certain it has more to do with the 18-20 miles per week you're running once you get to 5 than the number itself.Anyway, some people don't think they can run 5, or 10. Once you do it, you realize how ridiculous that thought was.

 

[pigskinliquors]

FYI: I'm finally back to training. My scrotal pain (I'v recovering from a vasectomy, and a calf injury) has diminished, and I was able to run for the first time (in 8 weeks) last Friday (3 miles) and yesterday (4 miles). I also got a swim in (just 2000m) on Saturday, and rode around our complex w/ our 5 year old on our bikes (approx. 2 miles in one hour!) on Sunday. My calf feels good (not great) so I will continue to take it slow and short. I'll attempt to ride my bike tomorrow and will wear my most padded shorts.

I don't have a race (Sprint Tri) until April 28th = I can take my time getting back into it. To everyone else in this thread; keep up the training, and always reward yourself for the miles you put in !

 

[meeka]

5 more today

Good job today

5 is the trouble number. Now that I'm past that, should be good to go.

Will you expand on why 5 is the trouble number?

To me it's the only mileage that is a mental hurdle. Once you're comfortable with 5, it seems the larger numbers breeze off. I'm certain it has more to do with the 18-20 miles per week you're running once you get to 5 than the number itself.Anyway, some people don't think they can run 5, or 10. Once you do it, you realize how ridiculous that thought was.

That is what I figured. I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

 

[tri-man 47]

IK: I'd say if you're itching to do 16 instead of "backing off" to 12, then do 16. Obviously, keep the pace easy. You're body will know when it's being pushed at its current limits, so as long as you're not getting stubburn about a certain distance or amount of mileage, you should be OK. I could feel my miles this week, and after an upcoming full week, I know I'll need to back off. But it sounds like you're OK to push ahead.

Liquors - be careful with that calf muscle!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage. It won't be that bad.

 

[GStrot]

The length of time you're running- you shouldn't be eating or doing anything different in your diet (other than trying to eat healthier). You definitely shouldn't be gaining weight! You'll also find it's a lot easier to run no carrying those pounds around. On top of being able to run faster, your knees, hips and back will thank you.

Yea. I don't know why I wrote it that way. I should have said because I feel like I can eat more now that I am running and I am eating a lot of crap. That first paragraph sounded like I was making excuses. I agree with you completely.

Didn't mean to jump down your throat there... sorry. It's just a little close to home lately- I couldn't eat enough when I was deep in my tri-training, especially the IM training. I turned into a little baby- I'd get hungry every couple of hours and HAD to eat, or else I'd get cranky... little baby cranky. Same went for all bodily functions- if I got tired, I had to shut it down. If I had to hit the can- whah-whah-whah until I got there. Ended up losing about 15 lbs total- evened out at a weight that felt good and healthy for me. Unfortunately, the training stopped, but the eating habits continued. What took me years to accomplish through training took me little more than 9 months to lose. Now I'm just fat and cranky.

Nope you were right in keeping me honest. I do get hungrier in the morning and eat more but I also subconsciencely think that I can eat more crap during the day "because I am running". Sometimes the brain is not my friend.If you did it once you can do it again.

 

[GStrot]

I might as well pile on here and come on out of the fat closet. I ran HS track & cross country. Loved running. I was more of a sprinter than a distance guy (200m & 400m mainly) but started to really latch on to the 5k/10k runs as I got into my early 20's. Fast forward through leaving the Air Force, getting married, having a kid and here I am 40lbs over what I was 5 years ago. I'm now 6'3 225 and I feel like a porker (yeah I know, I don't have a lot of muscle bulk - more of a runner's body). I've just started back running for the past two weeks (after a 2yr hiatus) and feel like this thread will help keep myself honest.I haven't even bothered to time myself yet, but I'm comfortably running 3 miles again. Someone posted about the weight killing your back/hips/knees. Man I never would've thought about this 5 years ago but now that I've started back again, I can feel it in my back and knees after every run. I'm convinced its this damn spare tire that's stuck to my waist...I haven't set any specific goals other than to curb my ADDICTION to eating and getting back down to about 200lbs. I would like to try and get to a sub 22 5k by the summer but I'll see how my first timed run goes before I set a real goal, time-wise.

Setting goals is the first step. Keep us updated!

 

[GStrot]

I did 10k on a hill course this morning (thought I already posted this). I should have gotten up earlier, cuz it was freakin' hot. 66mins, mostly uphill coming back (agh!!!), but very little I-T problems. It was on a paved road, mostly flat (a few banked curves). I'll take it.

 

[GStrot]

Thanks for the advice guys. I guess the biggest reason we chose the Chicago Marathon is because we have absolutley no clue what we are doing. I will get the extra clothes and take your advice on those.A question. My wife bought me a long sleeve Under Armour shirt that is loose on me. Should I return it and get something tight? I imagine I will be wearing his or the replacement in the race so I don't want chafing etc.

I had planned to check the date for the Chicago Marathon (October 7th!) in order to see what average weather would be BEFORE I made that post, but I spaced it off. Now that I've checked, I'm not so sure that you'd even need to wear much more than shorts and a tshirt. Of course, weather can change in an instant, and you should prepare for that, but I'm thinking it'll be great running weather by then. Other "tricks" include wearing a trashbag at the start area to keep warm pre-race, then tear it off once you get going after the gun goes off. At PF Chang's two months ago (two months have gone by ALREADY??!! ), I kept my jacket on before the gun (~30degrees!! :brr: ) and then handed it off to my wife just after crossing the start line. You have six months, so don't stress too much about it right now.As for the Under Armour, I couldn't tell ya. I'm just a simple tshirt guy. Wear it on a few long runs and see if it bugs you loose. If so, wash it in hot water and maybe it'll shrink, hit the gym and [ahnuld]puhmp yoo uhp[/ahnuld] until it fits , or buy a tighter one. As I said above, you have six months, so go ahead and experiment. As for chafing, Bodyglide is your friend (and that includes your nipples).

I have been a spectator for 2 Chicago marathons. You will be fine with shorts and a t-shirt unless there is a cold front that comes through. As someone said, wear your name on your shirt people are very supportive. Also, wear a shirt with your college on it or some organization that you identify with. If people who are spectating also identify with it, they will most likely encourage you along the way. Probably should avoid NAMBLA or other "borderline" organizations.Chicago is really flat and there are a ton of great neighborhoods you run through including Boys' Town and China Town. I think it is a good one for your first marathon because there are a ton of people running their first and the crowd seems really supportive. If you have people from out of town who want to support you along the way, let me know and I will give them some hints as to how to do it.

 

[GStrot]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage. It won't be that bad.

I like when math is helpful.

 

[GStrot]

2.75 on Sunday. I ran outside which was nice. mapmyruns.com was very helpful in mapping out the distance as I am not very good at judging that yet.

I was surprisingly a little sore last week from the first 2.75 but not as much today. The big 3 miler is Wednesday but the way work is going I may be out of town and have to push it to Thursday. Then 2 then 3 again on the weekend.

Did not work on the eating over the weekend but plan on getting back on track this week unless work is a real ##### and I don't have the time.

 

[wraith5]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage.

It won't be that bad.

Most of the difference is mental more than physical. If you're capable of running 3.5 miles on a regular basis, 5 is not a big jump. I told a coworker last year (many times) that if she could run 17, she could run a marathon. It's hard to see until you're looking in the rearview mirror, but it's true (IMO). Before my first marathon, I'd done a few 10k's and ONCE I'd run about 8 miles. In '99 I got convinced to run Chicago, and started training with only 3 months to go until race day. I finished (4:59:47). In about 13 weeks, the way I looked at an 8 mile run was drastically changed forever!!

IK - I reread your post a few times, but I'm not seeing where you have a step-back week if you do 16 this Sunday (3/25), followed by another long run the following Saturday (3/31). I understand about wanting to redeem yourself for a bad run (which is going to happen sometimes!!) but adding more mileage isn't doing yourself any favors. Stick to the plan!

Re: clothing for Chicago - wear layers and be prepared to part company with all but your base. Also practice wearing them ahead of time: Nothing new on race day! At the health expo / packet pick-up, I've typically invested $20 in these. One year it was 40 degrees with a cold wind, and I wore the jacket the whole race. Other years it's gotten to about 60 and I took them off before mile 3. You just never know what the weather will be!

Re: chaffing - these are the ticket right here. If you've ever been a victim, you know not to mess around in this category.

I ran 10 miles yesterday and it was a great day to be outside in Chicago. It was my furthest run since September 17, when I quit on a 17 mile run and took the next 5 months off. It feels good to be back on the horse!

 

[GStrot]

I ran 10 miles yesterday and it was a great day to be outside in Chicago. It was my furthest run since September 17, when I quit on a 17 mile run and took the next 5 months off. It feels good to be back on the horse!

 

[meeka]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage. It won't be that bad.

I have sort of hit a wall with running. I think it is mostly mental. I started out at 2 miles and it has been pretty easy to move up distance to this point. The 3.5 feels like a lot, and I can tell that my body is a bit worn out for the next 40 hours or so. So I guess I am doubting my own ability to be able to add distance. May as well just go for it. Does anyone have a suggestion for the distance I should be adding. 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile?

 

[GStrot]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage. It won't be that bad.

I have sort of hit a wall with running. I think it is mostly mental. I started out at 2 miles and it has been pretty easy to move up distance to this point. The 3.5 feels like a lot, and I can tell that my body is a bit worn out for the next 40 hours or so. So I guess I am doubting my own ability to be able to add distance. May as well just go for it. Does anyone have a suggestion for the distance I should be adding. 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile?

The 5k and then 10k programs I am doing are adding 0.25 miles per week.Last week was 2.75, 2, 2.75This week is 3, 2, 3But they are only 8 weeks with a clear goal at the end.

 

[wraith5]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage. It won't be that bad.

I have sort of hit a wall with running. I think it is mostly mental. I started out at 2 miles and it has been pretty easy to move up distance to this point. The 3.5 feels like a lot, and I can tell that my body is a bit worn out for the next 40 hours or so. So I guess I am doubting my own ability to be able to add distance. May as well just go for it. Does anyone have a suggestion for the distance I should be adding. 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile?

The program GStrot is doing is probably the best comparison for what you're doing here. I find the best way to add distance when you're having mental block issues is to run the first 1/2 away from your house (or car) - so you have no choice but to cover that same distance coming home. Even if you walk it, at least you're doing the distance. Each time should get a little easier. If you can't measure out the exact distance, then pick an amount of time to run before turning around. Just keep it up!

 

[meeka]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage. It won't be that bad.

I have sort of hit a wall with running. I think it is mostly mental. I started out at 2 miles and it has been pretty easy to move up distance to this point. The 3.5 feels like a lot, and I can tell that my body is a bit worn out for the next 40 hours or so. So I guess I am doubting my own ability to be able to add distance. May as well just go for it. Does anyone have a suggestion for the distance I should be adding. 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile?

The 5k and then 10k programs I am doing are adding 0.25 miles per week.Last week was 2.75, 2, 2.75This week is 3, 2, 3But they are only 8 weeks with a clear goal at the end.

I will probably start a HH plan pretty soon to get ready for the 10K I hope to do in August. Right now I am just trying to increase the miles I can run. I have my first 5k in less than 4 weeks, so after that I will probably start the H 10K plan. The funny thing is that 5K seemed really far a month ago.

 

[tri-man 47]

meeka - I really think that instead of struggling with just adding distance, you might go the other way ...shorten your distance, but add some accelearations (if it's city blocks, accelerate on the short block, then go realll easy on the long blocks). Train the legs and hips and such to rotate better and rotate strong. Then when you do a straight distance run at an easy pace, it might not feel as bad.

Also, after your runs, make sure you eat and drink what's needed within 15-30 minutes. That's when your body needs the refueling. Keep at it!

 

[meeka]

meeka - I really think that instead of struggling with just adding distance, you might go the other way ...shorten your distance, but add some accelearations (if it's city blocks, accelerate on the short block, then go realll easy on the long blocks). Train the legs and hips and such to rotate better and rotate strong. Then when you do a straight distance run at an easy pace, it might not feel as bad. Also, after your runs, make sure you eat and drink what's needed within 15-30 minutes. That's when your body needs the refueling. Keep at it!

Thanks for the suggestion. I will keep at it. I am determined to be able to at least run a 10K this summer. I think the best thing for me to do is to drop some pounds, and keep at it. I will be going up to 4 miles for my next run. I let you all know how it goes. I think I will only run 3 times a week and do some other cario for my 4th workout.

 

[El Floppo]

meeka - I really think that instead of struggling with just adding distance, you might go the other way ...shorten your distance, but add some accelearations (if it's city blocks, accelerate on the short block, then go realll easy on the long blocks). Train the legs and hips and such to rotate better and rotate strong. Then when you do a straight distance run at an easy pace, it might not feel as bad. Also, after your runs, make sure you eat and drink what's needed within 15-30 minutes. That's when your body needs the refueling. Keep at it!

Very I'm a big fan of doing "pickups" or "accelerations" as part of your workouts with some regularity. "Out and backs" are fantastic too. All as means of breaking up the monotony of just running at a pace, but also- as TM points out- with shifting the body and HR into something else as well.

 

[Poppa]

I am running 3.5 miles right now and I do see 5 miles long way off. I hope to move to 4 miles this week. I do have goals of a 10K later this summer, so I will have to get past the 5 mile barrier myself. I do hope it is not a big jump to the 6.2.

3.5 miles to 5 miles = 43% increase in mileage.5 miles to 6.2 miles = 24% increase in mileage. It won't be that bad.

I have sort of hit a wall with running. I think it is mostly mental. I started out at 2 miles and it has been pretty easy to move up distance to this point. The 3.5 feels like a lot, and I can tell that my body is a bit worn out for the next 40 hours or so. So I guess I am doubting my own ability to be able to add distance. May as well just go for it. Does anyone have a suggestion for the distance I should be adding. 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile?

Try "time" instead of "distance" - "minutes" instead of "miles"! If, as you suspect, this added distance is mental...the mind "conversion" may help. I've literally not measured a run in years. If you have a reasonable estimate of your pacing...simply add 2 minutes (for example) to the out portion of your run...thus also adding 2-2 1/2 minutes to your back. Does this make sense? While one might allow the thought of an additional 1/4 MILE...or 1/2 MILE to kick yer ### (spoken in motivational tone!) you're not as likely to allow a couple MINUTES to do the same, mentally...IMO.Over the years...NOT measuring distance has given me much more freedom...to just run/run-walk/mosey/stop to empty the crap outta my shoes/bird watch, etc etc...without the dimension of time AND distance playing on my mind. (mile times/splits/PR's, etc...) I simply go out the door and tell the wife..."Uhhhh, I'll be back in an hour or so...maybe 90 minutes...maybe a little bit more, I dunno!"Good luck!

 

[El Floppo]

IK: I'd say if you're itching to do 16 instead of "backing off" to 12, then do 16. Obviously, keep the pace easy. You're body will know when it's being pushed at its current limits, so as long as you're not getting stubburn about a certain distance or amount of mileage, you should be OK. I could feel my miles this week, and after an upcoming full week, I know I'll need to back off. But it sounds like you're OK to push ahead.

Liquors - be careful with that calf muscle!

I'm going to disagree here. I strongly believe and have found that my body needs those "recovery" weeks and allows me to get stronger in the following weeks. I think the body just breaks down without them. I would strongly suggest that if your program has you backing off- you back off. Let your body recover, and you'll see that you'll feel that much stronger in the next week when the training picks up again.

 

[Poppa]

Also, after your runs, make sure you eat and drink what's needed within 15-30 minutes. That's when your body needs the refueling. Keep at it!

Oh yeah, Meeka - THIS is REALLLLLY important! Begin replenishing as quickly as possible!

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Also, after your runs, make sure you eat and drink what's needed within 15-30 minutes. That's when your body needs the refueling. Keep at it!

Oh yeah, Meeka - THIS is REALLLLLY important! Begin replenishing as quickly as possible!

This was probably my problem on Saturday. Went on the 10k hill run as previously mentioned, but got kicked in the butt by the heat. I didn't eat/drink right away after I got home, and ended up with a headache/felt like crap for much of the day. Running at ~85degrees, with a high temp of 99 later in the day probably didn't help either. lolThis tip might be moreso for the marathoners, but I guess the 5kers can try it as well. If your legs are achey after a run (or just in general after 12+ miles for the marathoners), take an ice bath afterwards. Yeah, I know that sounds , but it works. The trick is not to just dump a bag of ice in the tub and jump in. Start by filling the tub with water as cool as you can stand, and get in. You're essentially just icing your legs, so you can wear a swimsuit/sweatshirt if you like so the rest of you doesn't get chilled.Fill only deep enough to cover your legs. THEN add the ice, a little at a time so you get used to it. It's a weird feeling as the colder water swirls around, but you can suck it up -- this is therapy after all! Those of you up north can probably get away with just running cold water, as cold as it will go. Here in Phoenix, lukewarm water comes out of the taps during the summer, so ice is a must. lol Sit for 15-20mins, adding ice as needed, and you're golden. I usually take a shower afterwards to rinse off sweat.Also do this after your races, to improve recovery time. I did this after the Dublin Marathon, and then went on a walking tour of the east coast of Ireland the next day, with only a little leg ache. My I-T was so screwed after PF Chang's that I really didn't notice any benefit, but I've been taking ice baths after my runs the last few weeks to help ward off any I-T problems and it seems to be working.

 

[RustyFA]

I guess I have bursitis(sp?) in my left hip. Just an ache that won't go away regardless of what I am doing. Doc said ice and asp. and that I could have steroids if I wanted. I am going to stay away from those if at all possible. 5 miles in 7 hours. Good night.

At the half way point of a 2 mile run my group was averaging 10 minute miles. The last 2 miles were 8 minutes apiece. Is this too fast for novices?

 

[Schmegma]

I guess I have bursitis(sp?) in my left hip. Just an ache that won't go away regardless of what I am doing. Doc said ice and asp. and that I could have steroids if I wanted. I am going to stay away from those if at all possible. 5 miles in 7 hours. Good night.

At the half way point of a 2 mile run my group was averaging 10 minute miles. The last 2 miles were 8 minutes apiece. Is this too fast for novices?

I don't know about that, but 5 miles in 7 hours is way too slow.

 

[GStrot]

At the half way point of a 2 mile run my group was averaging 10 minute miles. The last 2 miles were 8 minutes apiece. Is this too fast for novices?

More confusing math from this post. Does this mean you ran the second mile in 6 minutes?2 mile run, halfway was 10 minutes, last 2 miles were 8 minutes each or 16 minutes.

 

[El Floppo]

I guess I have bursitis(sp?) in my left hip. Just an ache that won't go away regardless of what I am doing. Doc said ice and asp. and that I could have steroids if I wanted. I am going to stay away from those if at all possible. 5 miles in 7 hours. Good night.

At the half way point of a 2 mile run my group was averaging 10 minute miles. The last 2 miles were 8 minutes apiece. Is this too fast for novices?

Buddies out training together usually leads to everybody going to fast- especially for novices. Only way I run with friends at this point is if it's a casual "chat" run w/low HR and slower pace or if it's somebody I know runs at my pace (I've trained with enough people over the years to know who they are... or were) Ultimately it's about what works for you- so if it felt too fast, it WAS too fast. And a hint: your body has ways of telling you that you're pushing things- Bursitis is one of those ways.The "out and back" run is a better way of training with friends, IMO- everybody can go their own pace, but all end up back at the start at the same time.

GL with the pains.

 

[El Floppo]

I guess I have bursitis(sp?) in my left hip. Just an ache that won't go away regardless of what I am doing. Doc said ice and asp. and that I could have steroids if I wanted. I am going to stay away from those if at all possible. 5 miles in 7 hours. Good night.

At the half way point of a 2 mile run my group was averaging 10 minute miles. The last 2 miles were 8 minutes apiece. Is this too fast for novices?

I don't know about that, but 5 miles in 7 hours is way too slow.

I'm guessing 7 hours from the time he wrote that, he was going to do 5 miles.

 

[El Floppo]

Ok, my inspirational 10k-Thread pals....

It's a beautiful, warm day in NYC- the snow and ice is melting, the birds are chirping and Floppo is going to drag his fat ### outside for my first run in... it's been so long, I don't even remember the last one. Definitely since 2006.

You guys have truly inspired me to shake the cobwebs out, jiggle my belly some and do it.

Yep. I'm going to go do it.

Pretty much, going to go for a run.

I'm scared that I'm not going to make it to the corner. I need help.

 

[GStrot]

Ok, my inspirational 10k-Thread pals....It's a beautiful, warm day in NYC- the snow and ice is melting, the birds are chirping and Floppo is going to drag his fat ### outside for my first run in... it's been so long, I don't even remember the last one. Definitely since 2006.You guys have truly inspired me to shake the cobwebs out, jiggle my belly some and do it.Yep. I'm going to go do it.Pretty much, going to go for a run.I'm scared that I'm not going to make it to the corner. I need help.

I am all out of inspirational cliches and assorted Nike ads. But, you can do it.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

I am all out of inspirational cliches and assorted Nike ads. But, you can do it.

[robschneider]YOU CAN DO IT!!! CUT HIS ####### HEAD OFF!![/rob]Does that work?

 

[El Floppo]

And here I go.

Going.

Yep.

Going to go.

 

[GStrot]

*ahem*

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still here?

 

[pigskinliquors]

And here I go.Going.Yep.Going to go.

Make us proud! Your new baby would probably prefer the fit El Floppo vs. the current one. Oh, and also don't discuss "how great" the run was, or "how good it felt to get outside" to the Mrs. as this is one of those things that could set her off a bit. Go get 'em!

 

[wraith5]

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Rob Schneider schtick has been taken, soooo... Turn off the computer, get your ### out of that chair, and get outside!! It doesn't matter if you just get to the corner, or if you walk 1/2 the time you're out there - just get out there! The first time is the hardest.... well, that's not really true, 'cause then you get all sore for the 2nd time, so maybe that's the hardest... ... but then you start to eat more 'cause you're "exercising," and gain a couple of pounds, and that sux, so maybe that's like the 5th one that's the hardest... ... but THEN you start getting IT band issues, or bursitis, or your knees ache, so maybe that's the 10th or 12th run or so that's the hardest... ... running rules. ETA: 3+ on the treadmill this morning... knees were actually pretty sore after my 6 & 10 runs this weekend... but after about a mile everything felt pretty good again.

 

[tri-man 47]

I'm scared that I'm not going to make it to the corner. I need help.

Harrumph! Those who can't do, preach? Get your lazy butt out there. Bring back stories of nubile young women frolicking in the park.

 

[meeka]

I have been mentally gearing up for my first 4 mile run tonight when I get home from work. Then the Mrs. calls and tells me that her Dad wants to know if I can go over to his house and help him with some insulation after dinner. So I am a little frustrated because I was gearing up for my run tonight. I am still going to go run after I help him, just sort of bummed that it is getting pushed back a couple of hours.

My wife and I are running our first 5k on 4/15 and I am really trying to prepare for it. She has yet to run a yard. She goes to the gym and does the eliptical machine, but wants nothing to do with the treadmill. I was really suprised at how much harder running was for me than the eliptical machine and suggested that she try to put a couple of miles in to get used to it. Knowing her she run once a week before our race and realize that she can run 5k pretty easy, and then run the race. Good thing she is not competitive, or she would probably leave me behind on race day.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

My wife and I are running our first 5k on 4/15 and I am really trying to prepare for it. She has yet to run a yard. She goes to the gym and does the eliptical machine, but wants nothing to do with the treadmill. I was really suprised at how much harder running was for me than the eliptical machine and suggested that she try to put a couple of miles in to get used to it. Knowing her she run once a week before our race and realize that she can run 5k pretty easy, and then run the race. Good thing she is not competitive, or she would probably leave me behind on race day.

5K is a long distance for somebody who just does elipticals and stuff like that. It's not like you have to be an awesome physical specimen or anything to do a 5K, but running 3 miles is much more difficult than 30 minutes on a stairmaster IMO.

 

[meeka]

My wife and I are running our first 5k on 4/15 and I am really trying to prepare for it. She has yet to run a yard. She goes to the gym and does the eliptical machine, but wants nothing to do with the treadmill. I was really suprised at how much harder running was for me than the eliptical machine and suggested that she try to put a couple of miles in to get used to it. Knowing her she run once a week before our race and realize that she can run 5k pretty easy, and then run the race. Good thing she is not competitive, or she would probably leave me behind on race day.

5K is a long distance for somebody who just does elipticals and stuff like that. It's not like you have to be an awesome physical specimen or anything to do a 5K, but running 3 miles is much more difficult than 30 minutes on a stairmaster IMO.

She was in gymnastics for several years and her body really adapts well when pushed. I have no doubt that if she were to go out today she could run as well as I can. It is just extra motivation for me with these running goals I have for myself this summer. I want to run an 8k in June and a 10k in August. This would get me to a point where I would really feel like I have accomplished something. From hardly being able to run a mile in January to running a 10K. Distant goal for 2008 is a half marathon. For now I just want to keep running because I like it, and I hope that entering a few events will only add to that. The 5k we are doing is the "Running with the Pigs" put on by the St. Paul Saints. It should be fun.

 

[wraith5]

My wife and I are running our first 5k on 4/15 and I am really trying to prepare for it. She has yet to run a yard. She goes to the gym and does the eliptical machine, but wants nothing to do with the treadmill. I was really suprised at how much harder running was for me than the eliptical machine and suggested that she try to put a couple of miles in to get used to it. Knowing her she run once a week before our race and realize that she can run 5k pretty easy, and then run the race. Good thing she is not competitive, or she would probably leave me behind on race day.

5K is a long distance for somebody who just does elipticals and stuff like that. It's not like you have to be an awesome physical specimen or anything to do a 5K, but running 3 miles is much more difficult than 30 minutes on a stairmaster IMO.

Agreed that just because you can do one doesn't mean the other will be a piece of cake. Meeka - Definitely still do the run tonight! You'll do great.

 

[meeka]

My wife and I are running our first 5k on 4/15 and I am really trying to prepare for it. She has yet to run a yard. She goes to the gym and does the eliptical machine, but wants nothing to do with the treadmill. I was really suprised at how much harder running was for me than the eliptical machine and suggested that she try to put a couple of miles in to get used to it. Knowing her she run once a week before our race and realize that she can run 5k pretty easy, and then run the race. Good thing she is not competitive, or she would probably leave me behind on race day.

5K is a long distance for somebody who just does elipticals and stuff like that. It's not like you have to be an awesome physical specimen or anything to do a 5K, but running 3 miles is much more difficult than 30 minutes on a stairmaster IMO.

Agreed that just because you can do one doesn't mean the other will be a piece of cake. Meeka - Definitely still do the run tonight! You'll do great.

Thanks. I definitely will do the run tonight. This 4 mile thing has bugged me long enough.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

I have been mentally gearing up for my first 4 mile run tonight when I get home from work. Then the Mrs. calls and tells me that her Dad wants to know if I can go over to his house and help him with some insulation after dinner. So I am a little frustrated because I was gearing up for my run tonight. I am still going to go run after I help him, just sort of bummed that it is getting pushed back a couple of hours.

Running TO his house down?

 

[wraith5]

My wife and I are running our first 5k on 4/15 and I am really trying to prepare for it. She has yet to run a yard. She goes to the gym and does the eliptical machine, but wants nothing to do with the treadmill. I was really suprised at how much harder running was for me than the eliptical machine and suggested that she try to put a couple of miles in to get used to it. Knowing her she run once a week before our race and realize that she can run 5k pretty easy, and then run the race. Good thing she is not competitive, or she would probably leave me behind on race day.

5K is a long distance for somebody who just does elipticals and stuff like that. It's not like you have to be an awesome physical specimen or anything to do a 5K, but running 3 miles is much more difficult than 30 minutes on a stairmaster IMO.

Agreed that just because you can do one doesn't mean the other will be a piece of cake. Meeka - Definitely still do the run tonight! You'll do great.

Thanks. I definitely will do the run tonight. This 4 mile thing has bugged me long enough.

Eye of the Tiger, Brother! ... Eye of the Tiger!!

 

[wraith5]

I have been mentally gearing up for my first 4 mile run tonight when I get home from work. Then the Mrs. calls and tells me that her Dad wants to know if I can go over to his house and help him with some insulation after dinner. So I am a little frustrated because I was gearing up for my run tonight. I am still going to go run after I help him, just sort of bummed that it is getting pushed back a couple of hours.

Running TO his house down?

Not a bad idea!My office is 3.5 miles from my house - I'm trying to figure out the logistics, but fully intend to bike and/or run the distance as the weather allows. No shower here, though, so running TO work isn't really an option (hence the logistical issue).

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

I've been training for 6 months for a race that comes in 2 weeks. It didn't scare me as I ran 6 miles several times in the last few months...i was trying to beat 50 minutes for the first time in my life. And this would have been the first race in over 15 years for me.

But I had to quit running this week. I hurt my knee and it is getting worse. It hurts so bad I have been waking up at night in misery. I am going to switch to biking in two weeks when it heals some more. Running on top of my job is too much for it without surgery methinks.

I'm very bummed that I cannot run anymore and very disappointed in myself for not completing the goal I set out for when I was so close.