Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)

[Monsieur Meursault]

Did 10 miles yesterday morning. Big accomplishment. It's been almost 10 years since I've run 10 miles in a single session.

 

[Darrinll40]

Hey, guys. Looks like I've got some catching up to do around here!

Got home from Ragnar around 8:30 last night. I didn't know a lot of the people on my team this year, so it wasn't quite as much fun as prior years, but I ran great.

First leg (#5) started at 2:33 PM. It was relatively flat, but the temperature/heat index was pushing 90 degrees, and we were running on brand new (i.e., hot) asphalt, so it was brutal out there. Started strong but faded a little bit towards the end, finishing the 7.73 miles in 55:27 (7:10 average pace).

My second leg (#17) kicked off just after midnight. Pitch black on a gravel road. At least it was nice and cool. I ran this leg with a friend of mine who was the 5th runner on our other 12-person team, and it was an absolute godsend, because there was no way in hell I could've pushed myself this hard otherwise. It was only 269 feet of net elevation gain, but it seriously felt like we were running straight uphill the whole damn way. Ended up with 6.18 miles in 42:35 (6:53/mile). After a couple of miles, my buddy turned and said to me, "I don't remember the part in Pfitz about doing marathon-paced training runs up a hill on a gravel road at midnight after having been up for 18 hours." Awesome run.

Finally got around to my last leg (#29) at about 9 am yesterday. The net elevation change on this one was basically zero, but it was a constant up and down, and there were a couple of short, steep climbs. This leg might have even been harder than #17, if only because I'd already run about 14 miles and I'd gotten maybe 7 total hours of sleep in the previous two days. Ran the 6.95 miles in 48:30, sneaking in just under 7:00 average pace (6:58).

Overall, ran 20.86 miles at 7:01 average pace. Hoping to get out for 18-19 miles today, which will get me to 75 miles for the week. Really feeling good about how I'm setting up for Lakefront in 6 weeks!

 

[Sand]

Had a solid, hilly 18 miler this AM. Avg pace was 8:45, right around where I wanted to be. Blasted through the final mile in 8:15 with energy to spare. The only downside was my iPod shuffle crapping out around mile 7. Nothing like going 10+ miles by yourself with no music, except the same song running through your head. Have a great week, all.

Killer run. What are you training for?Gru - sweet runs. I can't wait until October.Monsieur - another awesome run. What are you training for? I can't keep track these days - guys are killing it all over and I can't remember what races are on the horizon.

 

[CDog]

Day 1 of the Higdon 10K Intermediate training starts tomorrow then...I've picked the CrackerBarrel Classic in Wrentham MA for my 5K at the end of Week 4. Supposedly an extremely flat course. Should be able to do very well with that. 10K will be October 16th - FireFighters Memorial Classic in Dorchester, MA. Just registered for both - no turning back now.

I was going to pop in and say to do the itnermediate, but it appears you are already there. For the crosstraing, Yoga would work, so would some body weight based strength training. Or you can spend a little money and pick some Kettlebells, you can do a lot of good exercises with Kettlebells. Good luck on your races.

 

[tri-man 47]

Did 10 miles yesterday morning. Big accomplishment. It's been almost 10 years since I've run 10 miles in a single session.

Sweet!!--A hard breakthrough session for me this a.m. - 8 miles total with 3 x 2 mile repeats:7:10/mile - 163 HR7:08/mile - 171 HR7:06/mile - 173 HR

 

[prosopis]

LR HR = 143-163MP HR = 153-170First 6 - 143.1 Avg HR @ 9:55Last 10 - 166.5 Avg HR @ 8:46

Me: LR HR 141-160 MP HR 150-16713 miles yesterday 156 avg HR @ 12:44 (It was in the 90s and humidity in the 40s)Your temps a little more then 20 degrees cooler then me. Still that is a 3 min difference in avg pace. I just dont understand. I have been doing this long enough now I should be better then I am. I dont care what the doctors say there has to be a reason for this. Sorry for the whining AGAIN

 

[prosopis]

I have a quick question about Pfitz work out. My next scheduled run is Monday.

Lactate threshold 8 mi/w 4 mi @ 15k to half marathon race pace.

I am using HR to train. I will run 4 miles at 156-173 which is my HR for 15k-1/2 marathon pace. My question is what do I run the other 4 miles at? I also am not sure if the 4 miles at 156-173 are the middle four miles or am I supposed to alternate?

The LT threshold runs should be a 2 up, 4 LT, 2 down type of run. Don't mix up the HR ranges and the suggested paces. Unless you've just raced a 15K or HM in the past month or 2, they're 2 different things, IMO. The 15K-HM paces are suggested paces for those that don't run based on HR. If you want to follow the HR training, you just run at the pace that keeps your HR in that prescribed range. If not, just follow the pace suggestions for the run. I run my 2up and 2down at the lower end of the GA range (70-81% max HR). For LT, I try to hit the middle of the HR range, and then let it drift towards the higher end on the last mile or so. LT is 82-91%.

So for you, your max is 191 right? That would translate to the first 2 and last 2 at 133-135ish (it doesn't have to be perfect). Your middle 4 @ LT would be 165ish.

Yes, I am using the HR numbers you calculated for me. Thanks for the help I appreciate it. I am doing HR training in the heat. I am hoping to switch to pace training when it cools down. I am assuming the HR should stay in the ballpark when I switch in cooler weather.

 

[prosopis]

Hey, guys. Looks like I've got some catching up to do around here!

Got home from Ragnar around 8:30 last night. I didn't know a lot of the people on my team this year, so it wasn't quite as much fun as prior years, but I ran great.

First leg (#5) started at 2:33 PM. It was relatively flat, but the temperature/heat index was pushing 90 degrees, and we were running on brand new (i.e., hot) asphalt, so it was brutal out there. Started strong but faded a little bit towards the end, finishing the 7.73 miles in 55:27 (7:10 average pace).

My second leg (#17) kicked off just after midnight. Pitch black on a gravel road. At least it was nice and cool. I ran this leg with a friend of mine who was the 5th runner on our other 12-person team, and it was an absolute godsend, because there was no way in hell I could've pushed myself this hard otherwise. It was only 269 feet of net elevation gain, but it seriously felt like we were running straight uphill the whole damn way. Ended up with 6.18 miles in 42:35 (6:53/mile). After a couple of miles, my buddy turned and said to me, "I don't remember the part in Pfitz about doing marathon-paced training runs up a hill on a gravel road at midnight after having been up for 18 hours." Awesome run.

Finally got around to my last leg (#29) at about 9 am yesterday. The net elevation change on this one was basically zero, but it was a constant up and down, and there were a couple of short, steep climbs. This leg might have even been harder than #17, if only because I'd already run about 14 miles and I'd gotten maybe 7 total hours of sleep in the previous two days. Ran the 6.95 miles in 48:30, sneaking in just under 7:00 average pace (6:58).

Overall, ran 20.86 miles at 7:01 average pace. Hoping to get out for 18-19 miles today, which will get me to 75 miles for the week. Really feeling good about how I'm setting up for Lakefront in 6 weeks!

 

[gruecd]

Thanks, guys. I'm gonna go through a little later and see what everyone else's got going on.

Did a relatively easy 18.5 miles today at 8:10/mile. A buddy of mine joined me for the first 15 miles, which always helps pass the time. Legs actually felt pretty good until the last couple of miles, which was honestly a little surprising. I expected a bit more of a sufferfest.

Anyway, week in review:

M - 4 rec @ 8:43/mile, 6 rec @ 8:46

T - 10 @ 7:54

W - 11 @ 7:37 (with 5 x 1200)

T - 5 rec @ 8:38

F - 7.73 @ 7:10

S - 6.18 @ 6:53, 6.95 @ 6:59

S - 18.5 @ 8:10

Total - 75.4 (new weekly mileage PR)

 

[sho nuff]

Overall, ran 20.86 miles at 7:01 average pace. Hoping to get out for 18-19 miles today, which will get me to 75 miles for the week. Really feeling good about how I'm setting up for Lakefront in 6 weeks!

WTF You're on another planet, hombre.

Couldn't imagine a constant hill...at midnight...on gravel at those paces.

 

[sho nuff]

Did a relatively easy 18.5 miles today at 8:10/mile.

Man, you are always good for a laugh...oh wait, thats serious? I do lol at easy 18.5 miles though...especially at that pace. Just a freaking machine.

Total - 75.4 (new weekly mileage PR)

As I said...a machine.

 

[Workhorse]

Had a solid, hilly 18 miler this AM. Avg pace was 8:45, right around where I wanted to be. Blasted through the final mile in 8:15 with energy to spare. The only downside was my iPod shuffle crapping out around mile 7. Nothing like going 10+ miles by yourself with no music, except the same song running through your head. Have a great week, all.

Killer run. What are you training for?

Savannah Rock N Roll Marathon on November 5th. Making my first run at a sub 3:30.

 

[Sand]

LR HR = 143-163MP HR = 153-170First 6 - 143.1 Avg HR @ 9:55Last 10 - 166.5 Avg HR @ 8:46

Me: LR HR 141-160 MP HR 150-16713 miles yesterday 156 avg HR @ 12:44 (It was in the 90s and humidity in the 40s)Your temps a little more then 20 degrees cooler then me. Still that is a 3 min difference in avg pace. I just dont understand. I have been doing this long enough now I should be better then I am. I dont care what the doctors say there has to be a reason for this. Sorry for the whining AGAIN

Anything in the 90s is brutal. Honestly I don't think I could complete that run, period. But if you really want to check up on yourself here are a couple things to look at: How is your weight? Had blood workup lately? Iron, testosterone, thyroid function, etc. can cause fatigue issues.

 

[gruecd]

prosopis - Nice work on the 13 yesterday, but like the others have pointed out, you really need to get a handle on the hydration situation. And don't be too hard on yourself about your perceived lack of progress. Everybody's different.

tri-man - Nice run this morning. What kind of rest intervals between repeats??

MM - That's a big accomplishment. Congrats.

FUBAR - What made you decide to quit on the distance stuff?

Workhorse - Nice job on the 18 and the strong finish. You're gonna do great in Savannah!

Ivan - How'd you do with the 800s?

Ned - Nice work on the 16/10. That's a toughie. And by the way, there's no way I could run 26.2 at GMP right now, either. Don't sweat it.

Reg - Good to see you making a commitment and registering for those races. I like it. Oh, and I'm glad you like the Garmin. And sorry about your man boobs.

SteelCurtain - Way to keep it going while you're on vacation. I'm impressed by the dedication.

CDog - Congrats on the new distance PR. Keep it going!

Sand - As tri-man pointed out, as a non-swimmer, I don't think I fully appreciate the awesomeness of your swim workouts. Way to get 'er done!

walnutz - Trail races are tough. Congrats!

sho nuff/Reg - I've sweated out a couple of iPods. Now I put my shuffle inside a plastic bag inside my pocket, but I don't think that's foolproof, either, since you still need to have a hole for the headphones to go through. At least they're only $50.

Darrin - Nice job on the warm, humid 5-miler!

FBG26 - Good luck at Twin Cities!! I have a bunch of friends running that, including a bunch of my Ragnar teammates and the guy that I ran with today.

And last but certainly not least.... liquors, congrats on your recognition, and I'm sorry about the injury diagnosis. Like the others have said, I hope you can still join us for the Chase, but I'll totally understand if you decide to pass.

Sorry if I missed anyone, and I hope you're all having a great weekend!

 

[FUBAR]

FUBAR - What made you decide to quit on the distance stuff?

Just taking a 2-3 year hiatus because of the job. I'm in the 82nd Airborne Division right now, we do good PT each morning but the emphasis has shifted in the division from running all the time to functional fitness. Meaning, the ability to run 26.2 miles in under 3:30 doesn't mean much in combat but climbing over walls, carrying a lot of weight, moving quickly for shorter distances, etc. does. Perhaps I could take the time to run long and do their PT but when I'm working 12-14 hour days and trying to maintain a healthy family life, it's a matter of priorities. I'll be done with this job in 2 or 3 years, at which time I'll hopefully have a job that allows me the time to train on my own or with my selected group on our own plan. (part of the analysis of what job I request will be time and location suitable to train for triathlons)

 

[SteelCurtain]

FUBAR - What made you decide to quit on the distance stuff?

Just taking a 2-3 year hiatus because of the job. I'm in the 82nd Airborne Division right now, we do good PT each morning but the emphasis has shifted in the division from running all the time to functional fitness. Meaning, the ability to run 26.2 miles in under 3:30 doesn't mean much in combat but climbing over walls, carrying a lot of weight, moving quickly for shorter distances, etc. does. Perhaps I could take the time to run long and do their PT but when I'm working 12-14 hour days and trying to maintain a healthy family life, it's a matter of priorities. I'll be done with this job in 2 or 3 years, at which time I'll hopefully have a job that allows me the time to train on my own or with my selected group on our own plan. (part of the analysis of what job I request will be time and location suitable to train for triathlons)

THANK YOU for your service.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Grue

You are an animal. I still get through some of the tougher miles on my runs by thinking "#### you Grue, #### you" - and I mean that in the most respectful and nicest way possible.

Hit my PR for weekly mileage this week and you eclipsed me by 4 million%

Keep it going.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Small chance but is anyone running the Outer Banks Marathon in November? http://www.obxmarathon.org/Top_Nav/Outer_Banks_Marathon.htm

My brother and mother are running it for the 4th time, was thinking of going down there just to visit so maybe I'll see some of you there?

 

[prosopis]

FUBAR - What made you decide to quit on the distance stuff?

Just taking a 2-3 year hiatus because of the job. I'm in the 82nd Airborne Division right now, we do good PT each morning but the emphasis has shifted in the division from running all the time to functional fitness. Meaning, the ability to run 26.2 miles in under 3:30 doesn't mean much in combat but climbing over walls, carrying a lot of weight, moving quickly for shorter distances, etc. does. Perhaps I could take the time to run long and do their PT but when I'm working 12-14 hour days and trying to maintain a healthy family life, it's a matter of priorities. I'll be done with this job in 2 or 3 years, at which time I'll hopefully have a job that allows me the time to train on my own or with my selected group on our own plan. (part of the analysis of what job I request will be time and location suitable to train for triathlons)

God Bless you and thanks for what you do. Damn you guys are tough SOB's.

 

[tri-man 47]

the ability to run 26.2 miles in under 3:30 doesn't mean much in combat

Unless we fight a war in Greece and need to get the word back to Marathon! Thanks, FUBAR.gruecd - instead of a designated time interval between reps, I waited until my HR came down. It took 4-5 minutes for the HR to drop to 110 after the first rep (and didn't seem to want to go lower). It took 6-7 minutes to drop the HR to 115 after the second rep (and again, it seemed to want to stay there). Congrats on some excellent Ragnar legs! That midnight run must have been really cool.

 

[Sand]

Great stuff FUBAR. When you get back into it this thread will still be kicking.

Wheels came off on my last run today - tried to get in an 8 miler and got through 5.5 and just couldn't get it done. At dusk tonight it was 90F with pretty high humidity. Really tough and I couldn't survive it. Frustrating as I really need to start getting in good runs for the Chase.

So this weekend I managed 50 miles on the bike, 1600yds in the pool, and 11 miles on the road. A bit more than 5 hours in all.

 

[prosopis]

the ability to run 26.2 miles in under 3:30 doesn't mean much in combat

Unless we fight a war in Greece and need to get the word back to Marathon! Thanks, FUBAR.gruecd - instead of a designated time interval between reps, I waited until my HR came down. It took 4-5 minutes for the HR to drop to 110 after the first rep (and didn't seem to want to go lower). It took 6-7 minutes to drop the HR to 115 after the second rep (and again, it seemed to want to stay there). Congrats on some excellent Ragnar legs! That midnight run must have been really cool.

 

[prosopis]

Great stuff FUBAR. When you get back into it this thread will still be kicking.Wheels came off on my last run today - tried to get in an 8 miler and got through 5.5 and just couldn't get it done. At dusk tonight it was 90F with pretty high humidity. Really tough and I couldn't survive it. Frustrating as I really need to start getting in good runs for the Chase.So this weekend I managed 50 miles on the bike, 1600yds in the pool, and 11 miles on the road. A bit more than 5 hours in all.

Were you trying to run a certain pace or HR? I know that there is no way I could run in these temps if I was running by pace. HR training has kept me going. I would also add that the term "running" by HR in these kinds of heat can be misleading.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Small chance but is anyone running the Outer Banks Marathon in November? http://www.obxmarathon.org/Top_Nav/Outer_Banks_Marathon.htm

My brother and mother are running it for the 4th time, was thinking of going down there just to visit so maybe I'll see some of you there?

No, I've Baltimore less than a month prior so I can't add another. Hope its a good one.

Good preview of the course at this link. Outer Banks Marathon

 

[The Duff Man]

This thread is getting hard to keep up with! Some awesome updates.

Did 3 miles yesterday. I nearly pulled my groin avoiding a snake. Cruising along at a fast pace for me, I caught something out of the corner of my eye on the path in front of me. Realizing it was a snake, I made some weird jerky adjustment to my stride and just avoided stepping on it. I also probably screeched like a little girl.

Of course, it was only a garter snake, it wouldn't be funny to injure myself over that, but it probably looked hilarious.

Did 9 miles today, it was a very cool night. Which is good because I had to use some of my daughters Hello Kitty bandages to cover up my nipples, and I didn't really want to run with my shirt off!

 

[Sand]

Great stuff FUBAR. When you get back into it this thread will still be kicking.

Wheels came off on my last run today - tried to get in an 8 miler and got through 5.5 and just couldn't get it done. At dusk tonight it was 90F with pretty high humidity. Really tough and I couldn't survive it. Frustrating as I really need to start getting in good runs for the Chase.

So this weekend I managed 50 miles on the bike, 1600yds in the pool, and 11 miles on the road. A bit more than 5 hours in all.

Were you trying to run a certain pace or HR? I know that there is no way I could run in these temps if I was running by pace. HR training has kept me going. I would also add that the term "running" by HR in these kinds of heat can be misleading.

I rev limited myself by HR. This is the run. I just petered out - my HR was fine for the run. I do tend to have a hard time running in the heat. And we certainly have lots of that these days.

 

[prosopis]

Great stuff FUBAR. When you get back into it this thread will still be kicking.

Wheels came off on my last run today - tried to get in an 8 miler and got through 5.5 and just couldn't get it done. At dusk tonight it was 90F with pretty high humidity. Really tough and I couldn't survive it. Frustrating as I really need to start getting in good runs for the Chase.

So this weekend I managed 50 miles on the bike, 1600yds in the pool, and 11 miles on the road. A bit more than 5 hours in all.

Were you trying to run a certain pace or HR? I know that there is no way I could run in these temps if I was running by pace. HR training has kept me going. I would also add that the term "running" by HR in these kinds of heat can be misleading.

I rev limited myself by HR. This is the run. I just petered out - my HR was fine for the run. I do tend to have a hard time running in the heat. And we certainly have lots of that these days.

That looks pretty good to me. Nice pace for those temps and HR.

 

[Sand]

Great stuff FUBAR. When you get back into it this thread will still be kicking.

Wheels came off on my last run today - tried to get in an 8 miler and got through 5.5 and just couldn't get it done. At dusk tonight it was 90F with pretty high humidity. Really tough and I couldn't survive it. Frustrating as I really need to start getting in good runs for the Chase.

So this weekend I managed 50 miles on the bike, 1600yds in the pool, and 11 miles on the road. A bit more than 5 hours in all.

Were you trying to run a certain pace or HR? I know that there is no way I could run in these temps if I was running by pace. HR training has kept me going. I would also add that the term "running" by HR in these kinds of heat can be misleading.

I rev limited myself by HR. This is the run. I just petered out - my HR was fine for the run. I do tend to have a hard time running in the heat. And we certainly have lots of that these days.

That looks pretty good to me. Nice pace for those temps and HR.

It was good. Up until the point I couldn't continue.

 

[Ned]

I have a quick question about Pfitz work out. My next scheduled run is Monday.

Lactate threshold 8 mi/w 4 mi @ 15k to half marathon race pace.

I am using HR to train. I will run 4 miles at 156-173 which is my HR for 15k-1/2 marathon pace. My question is what do I run the other 4 miles at? I also am not sure if the 4 miles at 156-173 are the middle four miles or am I supposed to alternate?

The LT threshold runs should be a 2 up, 4 LT, 2 down type of run. Don't mix up the HR ranges and the suggested paces. Unless you've just raced a 15K or HM in the past month or 2, they're 2 different things, IMO. The 15K-HM paces are suggested paces for those that don't run based on HR. If you want to follow the HR training, you just run at the pace that keeps your HR in that prescribed range. If not, just follow the pace suggestions for the run. I run my 2up and 2down at the lower end of the GA range (70-81% max HR). For LT, I try to hit the middle of the HR range, and then let it drift towards the higher end on the last mile or so. LT is 82-91%.

So for you, your max is 191 right? That would translate to the first 2 and last 2 at 133-135ish (it doesn't have to be perfect). Your middle 4 @ LT would be 165ish.

Yes, I am using the HR numbers you calculated for me. Thanks for the help I appreciate it. I am doing HR training in the heat. I am hoping to switch to pace training when it cools down. I am assuming the HR should stay in the ballpark when I switch in cooler weather.

Why switch though? Is it because its got you running slower than you'd like right now? Its pretty bad### that you're able to get through long runs in that 90-100 degree heat. I'm waking up at 4am to avoid running in 90 degrees. You're probably so used to those temps that you don't see just how fn hot that is. You will be floored at how much easier/faster the runs get once you get some cooler temps. I say give HR training a real chance. It's really opened up a whole new world for me.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Duff Man --

FUBAR -- I seriously can't imagine doing distance training while simultaneously doing the sort of training you described (obstacles, etc.). I don't blame you for taking a break from this.

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I ended up having a really nice speed workout yesterday -- 7 miles with 6 x 800. The repeats came in at 3:49, 3:38, 3:31, 3:34, 3:32, 3:27. The first one was slow, but the others were good. Compared to the 5 x 800 I ran a two of weeks ago, each interval was a couple of seconds faster on average, plus I added another repeat, plus it still felt easier (or rather, less hard) even with similar weather. It's weird how just alternating between tempo runs and intervals once a week can show results so quickly, even with the rest of my miles being pretty slow.

One odd thing I've noticed. I'm doing these repeats in lane 1 of a high school track, so two laps should be exactly 800m, right? My garmin keeps showing each interval as 0.52 miles, which is off by a decent amount for such a short distance, around 4%. If it was just one repeat here and there, I'd chalk it up to the inexact science of pushing the "lap" button, but it's like this on every 800 I've run over multiple weeks. Not a big deal of course, but that small difference in distance for, say, a 3:31 repeat is the difference between a 7:04 pace and a 6:46 pace. I'd like to believe that second number, but the first is way more likely.

5 miles of recovery coming up later.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Just completed last run in Aruba.

Another warm one (84 degrees/85% humidity/79 degree dewpoint).

I started slow and picked it up in the second half.

Mile 1 -- 9:58

Mile 2 -- 8:42

Mile 3 -- 8:14

Mile 4 -- 8:35

Mile 5 -- 8:00

Whew.

3 p.m. flight....spending morning at pool then heading to airport.

 

[Ned]

Duff Man --

FUBAR -- I seriously can't imagine doing distance training while simultaneously doing the sort of training you described (obstacles, etc.). I don't blame you for taking a break from this.

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I ended up having a really nice speed workout yesterday -- 7 miles with 6 x 800. The repeats came in at 3:49, 3:38, 3:31, 3:34, 3:32, 3:27. The first one was slow, but the others were good. Compared to the 5 x 800 I ran a two of weeks ago, each interval was a couple of seconds faster on average, plus I added another repeat, plus it still felt easier (or rather, less hard) even with similar weather. It's weird how just alternating between tempo runs and intervals once a week can show results so quickly, even with the rest of my miles being pretty slow.

One odd thing I've noticed. I'm doing these repeats in lane 1 of a high school track, so two laps should be exactly 800m, right? My garmin keeps showing each interval as 0.52 miles, which is off by a decent amount for such a short distance, around 4%. If it was just one repeat here and there, I'd chalk it up to the inexact science of pushing the "lap" button, but it's like this on every 800 I've run over multiple weeks. Not a big deal of course, but that small difference in distance for, say, a 3:31 repeat is the difference between a 7:04 pace and a 6:46 pace. I'd like to believe that second number, but the first is way more likely.

5 miles of recovery coming up later.

Are you working towards the Yasso 10x800? 3:30s is exciting! Don't lie and say you haven't wondered...

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Are you working towards the Yasso 10x800?

No, this is just experimentation along with prep for a half on 9/11. Nothing that ambitious.

 

[gruecd]

I've come to the realization that this week is gonna be a real challenge.

Last rest day was 8/3. I've run 70+ miles each of the last two weeks. I've got a 15-mile MLR tomorrow, the "dreaded" Pfitz 12/7 on Thursday, and a 21-mile long run on Saturday before I finally get a rest day on Sunday.

Wish me luck... :(

 

[QB Bills]

Any advice on dealing with runner's knee/patellar tendonitis?

I've been fighting this for about three weeks. I basically stopped running and have been doing lots of stretching, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement.

 

[Sand]

I've come to the realization that this week is gonna be a real challenge.

Last rest day was 8/3. I've run 70+ miles each of the last two weeks. I've got a 15-mile MLR tomorrow, the "dreaded" Pfitz 12/7 on Thursday, and a 21-mile long run on Saturday before I finally get a rest day on Sunday.

Wish me luck... :(

So you'll only manage your 21 miler at a 6:45 pace. Boohoo. I suspect you'll be fine. Is this the last hard week before taper? 4 weeks to go?

 

[Ned]

Any advice on dealing with runner's knee/patellar tendonitis?

I've been fighting this for about three weeks. I basically stopped running and have been doing lots of stretching, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement.

Ice and this were a life saver for me when I fought runner's knee.

 

[Ned]

I've come to the realization that this week is gonna be a real challenge.

Last rest day was 8/3. I've run 70+ miles each of the last two weeks. I've got a 15-mile MLR tomorrow, the "dreaded" Pfitz 12/7 on Thursday, and a 21-mile long run on Saturday before I finally get a rest day on Sunday.

Wish me luck... :(

are you doubling up on recovery runs this week too?

 

[QB Bills]

Any advice on dealing with runner's knee/patellar tendonitis?

I've been fighting this for about three weeks. I basically stopped running and have been doing lots of stretching, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement.

Ice and this were a life saver for me when I fought runner's knee.

Thanks. Looks like it is worth a shot at that price. I have an old McDavid band that is falling apart.Did you find that this strap provided relief only during activity or does it actually promote healing as well?

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

3 Miles this morning:

10:40/11:10/9:53

Made the mistake of taking an advil PM to help me sleep last night. I like that it helps me sleep but I can't wake up in the morning. Slept in and paid for it by running in 10 degrees warmer temps.

Anyway - this sony Walkman Wireless mp3 player is done. I have wicked small ears and it just doesn't sit in my ears right. If anyone here wants it - 30 bucks loaded with music otherwise I'll put it on eBay. I bought it 2 days ago for 60 dollars. Just LMK

This is the first time every I've run 5 days in a row. My knees are a little sore when I first start my runs, usually they aren't sore by the end of the 1st mile

 

[gruecd]

I suspect you'll be fine. Is this the last hard week before taper? 4 weeks to go?

The race is six weeks from yesterday, so I've got three hard weeks of training before starting a three-week taper.

are you doubling up on recovery runs this week too?

One of 'em. IIRC, my schedule looks something like this:M - 9 with stridesT - 15 MLRW - 4/6 rec doubleT - 12 with 7 LTF - 7S - 21S - SRD

 

[BassNBrew]

Any advice on dealing with runner's knee/patellar tendonitis?

I've been fighting this for about three weeks. I basically stopped running and have been doing lots of stretching, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement.

Ice and this were a life saver for me when I fought runner's knee.

Ditto this and add...3) cushioned/new shoes

4) leg extensions everytime you go to the gym. preferably single leg. go heavy every third day.

 

[BassNBrew]

3 Miles this morning:10:40/11:10/9:53Made the mistake of taking an advil PM to help me sleep last night. I like that it helps me sleep but I can't wake up in the morning. Slept in and paid for it by running in 10 degrees warmer temps.Anyway - this sony Walkman Wireless mp3 player is done. I have wicked small ears and it just doesn't sit in my ears right. If anyone here wants it - 30 bucks loaded with music otherwise I'll put it on eBay. I bought it 2 days ago for 60 dollars. Just LMKThis is the first time every I've run 5 days in a row. My knees are a little sore when I first start my runs, usually they aren't sore by the end of the 1st mile

Hey there Reg, I'll take it since I led you down that path. Would mind having a back up with a fresh charge around. Shoot me a pm with your paypal addy.

 

[Ned]

Any advice on dealing with runner's knee/patellar tendonitis?

I've been fighting this for about three weeks. I basically stopped running and have been doing lots of stretching, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement.

Ice and this were a life saver for me when I fought runner's knee.

Thanks. Looks like it is worth a shot at that price. I have an old McDavid band that is falling apart.Did you find that this strap provided relief only during activity or does it actually promote healing as well?

I have no idea. It afforded me to keep running while I was still fighting it and it eventually healed with no down time after the initial week off.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

3 Miles this morning:10:40/11:10/9:53Made the mistake of taking an advil PM to help me sleep last night. I like that it helps me sleep but I can't wake up in the morning. Slept in and paid for it by running in 10 degrees warmer temps.Anyway - this sony Walkman Wireless mp3 player is done. I have wicked small ears and it just doesn't sit in my ears right. If anyone here wants it - 30 bucks loaded with music otherwise I'll put it on eBay. I bought it 2 days ago for 60 dollars. Just LMKThis is the first time every I've run 5 days in a row. My knees are a little sore when I first start my runs, usually they aren't sore by the end of the 1st mile

Hey there Reg, I'll take it since I led you down that path. Would mind having a back up with a fresh charge around. Shoot me a pm with your paypal addy.

Packed and ready to go as soon as you send me your address.I included one of my favorite cigars in the box for taking this off my hands so quickly. Enjoy man.

 

[sho nuff]

Some nice runs...good luck on another monster week gru.

For me...5 miles total on tap for tonight...middle 3 will be half mile repeats.

Legs continue feeling great even with the increased distance on the long runs.

Going for 11.5 (11 was the first plan, but since I went 10.5 this past weekend, why not get that extra half in)

Pace has felt good, going to use the HR Monitor on the long run next week, I do need to start getting that going and monitor it more moving forward.

Just hate the feel of it for now.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

One of 'em. IIRC, my schedule looks something like this:

M - 9 with strides Not too bad.

T - 15 MLR I can do this. Oh wait, that's your mid-week run.

W - 4/6 rec double Never done a double before.

T - 12 with 7 LT Ouch.

F - 7 Cake.

S - 21 Ouch.

S - SRD I think I'd be in the hospital by today.

 

[Ned]

One of 'em. IIRC, my schedule looks something like this:

M - 9 with strides Not too bad.

T - 15 MLR I can do this. Oh wait, that's your mid-week run.

W - 4/6 rec double Never done a double before.

T - 12 with 7 LT Ouch.

F - 7 Cake.

S - 21 Ouch.

S - SRD I think I'd be in the hospital by today.

That 7 on Fri, even at GA pace, would do me in. Then doing 21 after that? I'd just schedule an ambulance pick up at mile 8 to get it over with.

 

[Sand]

I'd just schedule an ambulance pick up at mile 8 to get it over with.

BTW, is anyone else besides me racing this weekend? I have an Oly this weekend. Looking to break the 2:38 I did last year (which should be easy if I don't put in a 1:05 10k like that one).

 

[gruecd]

BTW, is anyone else besides me racing this weekend?

I might be running a race, but I won't be racing, per se. There's a relatively inexpensive ($35) half marathon in my hometown on Saturday, and a couple of [attractive female] friends of mine are running, so I might run with them as part of my 21-miler. I'll pay for the entry since it benefits my local running club, but I probably won't wear my chip.I am, however, racing a half marathon the following weekend (on 9/3). Weather permitting, I'm hoping to go 1:25x. Should be interesting.