Ran a 10k in June (1 Viewer)

[Juxtatarot]

Fellas -- sorry I've been AWOL lately. I've been running but posting has been non-existent. Life and work are crazy. Should slow a bit in the next month or so.

RACE REPORT

I ran the NYC half marathon a five weeks back and was pleased with my 1:38:05 result but felt I could have gone a touch faster. (My PR is 1:34:28 but that’s when I was in better shape.)

I wasn’t sure if I was going to run the Kingston (NY) Classic on Sunday. I found out that Meb Keflezighi was there at the expo on Saturday for training tips, etc. I was annoyed I missed that. I went to bed Saturday night deciding I would, but then didn’t sleep well. I woke up Sunday early and ate breakfast. I was still trying to decide if I really wanted to do this. I eventually forced myself to go.

I got to the start and registered. I wasn’t feeling very good. I hit the bathroom and did a very short warmup. Ate a banana.

The race is smaller….about 300 people at the start. 42 degrees, clear skies, calm winds….perfect weather. I got into row 3 for the start. Meb showed up and said a few inspirational words and we were off.

My plan was to go out at PR pace (7:12/mile pace) and see how long I could hold on. I knew nothing about the course so I was going in a bit blind.

The first two miles were relatively flat in a city center. There was no congestion or anything to slow me down. I went out a bit quick but decided to try to go for it.

Mile 1 – 6:49

Mile 2 – 6:56

The third mile brought a half mile steady uphill, followed by a sharp downhill.

Mile 3 – 7:23

Little did I know we would go onto a unpaved rail trail. It wasn’t technical at all, but there were sections of mud and a couple divots from a vehicle, so I had to pay attention.

Mile 4 – 7:15

Mile 5 – 7:19

Mile 6 – 7:19

Mile 7 – 7:35 (My GPS got screwed up in a tunnel. I actually think this mile was closer to 7 minute mile as I picked it up in this mile as it was a bit downhill)

Finally, mile 8 got us back on the road. We were greeted by a steep and long uphill. I was hurting here and this is where the lead female passed me. It was almost there wasn’t a hill if you looked at her.

Mile 8 – 8:54 (I think the GPS was still trying to correct here…..I lost about 4/10 of a mile on this section, as the watch lost the satellites. Therefore, not sure how accurate it was, but it was definitely my slowest mile.)

Most of the rest of the race was downhill so I was trying to hold off from fading. I was still recovering from the hill.

Mile 9 – 7:25 (female number 2 passed me here)

Mile 10 – 7:29 (female number 3 passed me here)

The final push was on as we descended into town. I was fading and just trying to hold my spot.

Mile 11 – 7:08

Mile 12 – 7:29

Mile 13 – 7:12

Last 0.1 – 8:02 (I thought I was sprinting here! Ugh.)

End result? 1:34:23 which was a PR. I also won the 40-44 age group (to be fair….a smaller race). The coolest part? As I went up to get my AG first place plaque, it was presented to be by Meb Keflezighi, who won the Boston Marathon just 6 days earlier! I got several photos with him (posted on FB for those who I’m friends with) and he was completely down to earth and very cool.

It was a lot of fun and I’m glad I did it.

So friggin' siked for you! To PR a HM after getting the diagnosis you did last year is so bad ###.

Great job SC!

 

[ChiefD]

Nice work, Ned and Chief! Tough break, Tri-man but I'm sure you're bounce back quick.

Chief, if you really want to get your half marathon time down, you might want to try some shorter races this summer and work on your speed. Conditioning is obviously a priority for a half but if you can lower your 5 and 10K times, running 8's in a half will be much easier.

Yeah, I think I'm going to try this. I've never run a 5k or 10k before, so that will also keep me interested and focused this summer. There is a 10K in September I'm definitely going to run, so I'll pick up a couple of 5Ks here in the next few months.

 

[Sand]

then you should have started training sooner. Don't get your hopes up, try what tri man suggested, eat great, and hope for the best.

now THIS is a terrible post. Whats next, gonna enlighten us that 1+ 1 is 2?

Ok, since you are so close to race time you aren't going to be able to really train yourself up to a huge extent. So what can you do (besides eat well and taper properly)?

Well, let's talk race execution. My bet is that your previous attempts haven't adopted the optimal 5k strategy because the optimal strategy isn't the comfortable one. Running a fast 5k:

Mile 1: Head out fast. Really fast. You should feel peaked at the end of this and wondering how you will hold another two miles. Good.

Mile 2: The suck starts to set in. Your goal is to hold and extend that pace. You start to feel the sun rise in your stomach and the burn starts in.

Mile 3: About this time you should want a quick death. You wonder WTF you are doing at this stupid ####### race, anyway. Your stomach is on fire. Your legs are screaming. You may feel nauseated. Good. Hold. Extend. Keep the turnover going.

Last couple tenths: You are just about beyond coherence. You have tunnel vision. Push yourself to try and throw up on the finish line.

Afterward if you can do anything but stumble around and drool you went too slow.

Edit: And in case you're wondering if that is serious - yes, completely. 5ks, properly run, are about the most painful thing you can do.

 

[Sand]

Nice work, Ned and Chief! Tough break, Tri-man but I'm sure you're bounce back quick.

Chief, if you really want to get your half marathon time down, you might want to try some shorter races this summer and work on your speed. Conditioning is obviously a priority for a half but if you can lower your 5 and 10K times, running 8's in a half will be much easier.

Yeah, I think I'm going to try this. I've never run a 5k or 10k before, so that will also keep me interested and focused this summer. There is a 10K in September I'm definitely going to run, so I'll pick up a couple of 5Ks here in the next few months.

10k is my favorite race distance. Definitely give one a shot.

 

[MAC_32]

May test my hand at a 5K Sunday. I've had some very strong training lately and feel very, very good right now. Doubt I am breaking my 18:18 PR, but I think I can come close and I want to see how much work I have to do to get there.

After the 6 mile trail run in which I bit it last weekend I've done

Mon - 20 jump squats + 20 dips then 3 slow miles w/120 lunges and 80 push up's mixed in, finished with 20 more jump squats and 20 more dips

Tue - 4 miles, just over 24 minutes...level 4-like run...when I hit the wall I didn't push through like I would in a race

Wed - 10 100 meter sprints then 10 jump squats (x5), 10 dips (x5), 10 push up's (x8), and 20 lunges (x8)

Thu - 7 hilly miles

Fri - off

Sat - 30 jump squats + 30 dips then 5 slow miles w/240 lunges + 120 push up's mixed in then finished w/30 jump squats + 30 dips

Sun - yard work

Today - going to try to beat last Tuesday

Tomorrow - probably something like last Monday

Wednesday - Off

Thursday - Track

Friday morning - decide if I want to 5K Sunday or not

 

[koby925]

Great racing lately fellas. I'm enjoying catching up on this.

Ghost, as others have said, the quickest way to see any cram results would be speed/taper type running. Do some repeat 100/200s a couple times a week if your goal is solely to run this race faster. You aren't going to build endurance much anyway in 20 days. If this race is just a stepping stone to further training and other races, though, that isn't a good strategy.

I did my first sort of back to back this weekend, though it wasn't my intention. Ran 2 miles Friday then got stuck in a rain/lightning storm so had to stop. Then ran a "long" run Saturday of 4.5 miles. Most importantly, other than some general dull soreness, my injury area feels great and handled consecutive days and a decent paced 4.5 miles (7:20 avg) well. Going to keep on with the every other day thing for this week and if all continues to go well I plan to introduce some more days/gradual mileage increase next week.

 

[tri-man 47]

One of these days though I do need to try a nice slow 10 miler and see what happens. Gone 5 a couple times the past two weeks and definitely coulda kept going.

Well, do it next weekend! Cook the legs, and they'll recover stronger.

There is a logic of "race your way into shape." The heart of that, I believe, is that a race is essentially a very hard training run. You just need to allow some recovery time. That logic is why I suggest you could get in three hard sessions before needing to rest for your targeted race. You've got a few different variations to choose from, as suggested by the guys here.

 

[worrierking]

Hey gang, just stopping by to say hello. Injury recovery remains slow business (even slower than I run). Hope everybody is doing well.

 

[koby925]

I haven't seen anything recently on the kids of posters? How are they doing? Track season now and I want to live vicariously through you/them...

 

[BassNBrew]

Fellas -- sorry I've been AWOL lately. I've been running but posting has been non-existent. Life and work are crazy. Should slow a bit in the next month or so.

RACE REPORT

I ran the NYC half marathon a five weeks back and was pleased with my 1:38:05 result but felt I could have gone a touch faster. (My PR is 1:34:28 but that’s when I was in better shape.)

I wasn’t sure if I was going to run the Kingston (NY) Classic on Sunday. I found out that Meb Keflezighi was there at the expo on Saturday for training tips, etc. I was annoyed I missed that. I went to bed Saturday night deciding I would, but then didn’t sleep well. I woke up Sunday early and ate breakfast. I was still trying to decide if I really wanted to do this. I eventually forced myself to go.

I got to the start and registered. I wasn’t feeling very good. I hit the bathroom and did a very short warmup. Ate a banana.

The race is smaller….about 300 people at the start. 42 degrees, clear skies, calm winds….perfect weather. I got into row 3 for the start. Meb showed up and said a few inspirational words and we were off.

My plan was to go out at PR pace (7:12/mile pace) and see how long I could hold on. I knew nothing about the course so I was going in a bit blind.

The first two miles were relatively flat in a city center. There was no congestion or anything to slow me down. I went out a bit quick but decided to try to go for it.

Mile 1 – 6:49

Mile 2 – 6:56

The third mile brought a half mile steady uphill, followed by a sharp downhill.

Mile 3 – 7:23

Little did I know we would go onto a unpaved rail trail. It wasn’t technical at all, but there were sections of mud and a couple divots from a vehicle, so I had to pay attention.

Mile 4 – 7:15

Mile 5 – 7:19

Mile 6 – 7:19

Mile 7 – 7:35 (My GPS got screwed up in a tunnel. I actually think this mile was closer to 7 minute mile as I picked it up in this mile as it was a bit downhill)

Finally, mile 8 got us back on the road. We were greeted by a steep and long uphill. I was hurting here and this is where the lead female passed me. It was almost there wasn’t a hill if you looked at her.

Mile 8 – 8:54 (I think the GPS was still trying to correct here…..I lost about 4/10 of a mile on this section, as the watch lost the satellites. Therefore, not sure how accurate it was, but it was definitely my slowest mile.)

Most of the rest of the race was downhill so I was trying to hold off from fading. I was still recovering from the hill.

Mile 9 – 7:25 (female number 2 passed me here)

Mile 10 – 7:29 (female number 3 passed me here)

The final push was on as we descended into town. I was fading and just trying to hold my spot.

Mile 11 – 7:08

Mile 12 – 7:29

Mile 13 – 7:12

Last 0.1 – 8:02 (I thought I was sprinting here! Ugh.)

End result? 1:34:23 which was a PR. I also won the 40-44 age group (to be fair….a smaller race). The coolest part? As I went up to get my AG first place plaque, it was presented to be by Meb Keflezighi, who won the Boston Marathon just 6 days earlier! I got several photos with him (posted on FB for those who I’m friends with) and he was completely down to earth and very cool.

It was a lot of fun and I’m glad I did it.

Awesome. Way to hang in there and congrats on the spoils. Impressed with how you pushed it and the pr when your splits were all over the place.

 

[BassNBrew]

Tri gave good answers, which I'll try to add to.Do a couple of slower longer runs this week, 5+ miles

a hill workout - 1/4 mile repeats on a decent slope, aim for 6 but if you are losing form feel ok about stopping. if your goal course is hilly, jog down. if it's flat, walk down

Speed work - 30 second surges, 2-3 minutes apart, jog for those 2-3 minutes

Next week, do the same

one week out, decrease mileage but maintain some speed work. Drop the hills or just don't run down the hill.

Get plenty of rest

noted. ( I have no idea what this is)

Train like heck until 8-9 days out. After that point only run every other day at most, one speed day max. Freshness over fitness for short stuff.

 

[Hang 10]

then you should have started training sooner. Don't get your hopes up, try what tri man suggested, eat great, and hope for the best.

now THIS is a terrible post. Whats next, gonna enlighten us that 1+ 1 is 2?

Ok, since you are so close to race time you aren't going to be able to really train yourself up to a huge extent. So what can you do (besides eat well and taper properly)?

Well, let's talk race execution. My bet is that your previous attempts haven't adopted the optimal 5k strategy because the optimal strategy isn't the comfortable one. Running a fast 5k:

Mile 1: Head out fast. Really fast. You should feel peaked at the end of this and wondering how you will hold another two miles. Good.

Mile 2: The suck starts to set in. Your goal is to hold and extend that pace. You start to feel the sun rise in your stomach and the burn starts in.

Mile 3: About this time you should want a quick death. You wonder WTF you are doing at this stupid ####### race, anyway. Your stomach is on fire. Your legs are screaming. You may feel nauseated. Good. Hold. Extend. Keep the turnover going.

Last couple tenths: You are just about beyond coherence. You have tunnel vision. Push yourself to try and throw up on the finish line.

Afterward if you can do anything but stumble around and drool you went too slow.

Edit: And in case you're wondering if that is serious - yes, completely. 5ks, properly run, are about the most painful thing you can do.

Funny because I was just about to recommend this exact race strategy to the ghost but you said it much better than I ever could.

 

[Ned]

then you should have started training sooner. Don't get your hopes up, try what tri man suggested, eat great, and hope for the best.

now THIS is a terrible post. Whats next, gonna enlighten us that 1+ 1 is 2?

Ok, since you are so close to race time you aren't going to be able to really train yourself up to a huge extent. So what can you do (besides eat well and taper properly)?

Well, let's talk race execution. My bet is that your previous attempts haven't adopted the optimal 5k strategy because the optimal strategy isn't the comfortable one. Running a fast 5k:

Mile 1: Head out fast. Really fast. You should feel peaked at the end of this and wondering how you will hold another two miles. Good.

Mile 2: The suck starts to set in. Your goal is to hold and extend that pace. You start to feel the sun rise in your stomach and the burn starts in.

Mile 3: About this time you should want a quick death. You wonder WTF you are doing at this stupid ####### race, anyway. Your stomach is on fire. Your legs are screaming. You may feel nauseated. Good. Hold. Extend. Keep the turnover going.

Last couple tenths: You are just about beyond coherence. You have tunnel vision. Push yourself to try and throw up on the finish line.

Afterward if you can do anything but stumble around and drool you went too slow.

Edit: And in case you're wondering if that is serious - yes, completely. 5ks, properly run, are about the most painful thing you can do.

I'm curiously aroused.

 

[The_Man]

I haven't seen anything recently on the kids of posters? How are they doing? Track season now and I want to live vicariously through you/them...

Thanks for asking - my kid is a fall runner only. He started doing x-country last fall to get in better shape for rowing (spring sport, which is his main thing). He's having a decent season there (made the varsity lightweight boat as a sophomore, though it's only a quad and there are 5 good rowers so his spot is very tenuous). Funny thing is, he might now like x-country as much, or more, than crew. The XC team has started some spring workouts and he is dying to join them. The top returning guys all do a Warrior Dash together at the end of summer, and he was very excited that the coach asked him to be in that group. Also, his team is not running the Baltimore Half-Marathon in mid-October like they did last year. Some of you expressed concern about such an arduous run in the middle of a competitive 5K racing season and I think the coach agrees, after last year's team disappointed at the post-HM Conference Championship.

As for me, the worst part of my run Saturday was looking at the run log in my Garmin afterward. My most recent runs? March 29, Feb. 20, and back-to-back days in mid-January. Oh well, gotta (re)start somewhere. Ran 3.75 on Saturday and 4 on Sunday. Planning to run tomorrow a.m., which would be my first workday run in .... 18 months?

 

[beer 302]

then you should have started training sooner. Don't get your hopes up, try what tri man suggested, eat great, and hope for the best.

now THIS is a terrible post. Whats next, gonna enlighten us that 1+ 1 is 2?

Ok, since you are so close to race time you aren't going to be able to really train yourself up to a huge extent. So what can you do (besides eat well and taper properly)?

Well, let's talk race execution. My bet is that your previous attempts haven't adopted the optimal 5k strategy because the optimal strategy isn't the comfortable one. Running a fast 5k:

Mile 1: Head out fast. Really fast. You should feel peaked at the end of this and wondering how you will hold another two miles. Good.

Mile 2: The suck starts to set in. Your goal is to hold and extend that pace. You start to feel the sun rise in your stomach and the burn starts in.

Mile 3: About this time you should want a quick death. You wonder WTF you are doing at this stupid ####### race, anyway. Your stomach is on fire. Your legs are screaming. You may feel nauseated. Good. Hold. Extend. Keep the turnover going.

Last couple tenths: You are just about beyond coherence. You have tunnel vision. Push yourself to try and throw up on the finish line.

Afterward if you can do anything but stumble around and drool you went too slow.

Edit: And in case you're wondering if that is serious - yes, completely. 5ks, properly run, are about the most painful thing you can do.

I'm curiously aroused.

I believe you've addressed this in the past Ned, see signature below

 

[sho nuff]

Slow people get hurt running all the time and often from sudden changes in their regimen.

#### an injury...............I can rest when I'm dead.

this is also part of why I am askign what the best thing to do would be. For one, so I dont overdo it and get hurt. And two, so I maximize what I get out of my workouts.

Your answer seems to be "you shoulda trained earlier" and "nothing you can do"................cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Is there a reason you are acting like a penis to everyone who is trying to give you good advice?

 

[Sand]

Hey gang, just stopping by to say hello. Injury recovery remains slow business (even slower than I run). Hope everybody is doing well.

I'm curiously aroused.

I haven't seen anything recently on the kids of posters? How are they doing? Track season now and I want to live vicariously through you/them...

Speaking of which we haven't heard much from 2Y lately.

My kid did the one 5k (improving from 29 to 24) and is done for a while until we do that duathlon in New Orleans in June.

 

[Hang 10]

This guy is a legend.

Beer mile in 4:57

http://fittish.deadspin.com/beer-mile-world-record-smashed-by-canuck-1568727918/all

 

[Ned]

I haven't seen anything recently on the kids of posters? How are they doing? Track season now and I want to live vicariously through you/them...

Thanks for asking - my kid is a fall runner only. He started doing x-country last fall to get in better shape for rowing (spring sport, which is his main thing). He's having a decent season there (made the varsity lightweight boat as a sophomore, though it's only a quad and there are 5 good rowers so his spot is very tenuous). Funny thing is, he might now like x-country as much, or more, than crew. The XC team has started some spring workouts and he is dying to join them. The top returning guys all do a Warrior Dash together at the end of summer, and he was very excited that the coach asked him to be in that group. Also, his team is not running the Baltimore Half-Marathon in mid-October like they did last year. Some of you expressed concern about such an arduous run in the middle of a competitive 5K racing season and I think the coach agrees, after last year's team disappointed at the post-HM Conference Championship.

As for me, the worst part of my run Saturday was looking at the run log in my Garmin afterward. My most recent runs? March 29, Feb. 20, and back-to-back days in mid-January. Oh well, gotta (re)start somewhere. Ran 3.75 on Saturday and 4 on Sunday. Planning to run tomorrow a.m., which would be my first workday run in .... 18 months?

Mapping out my fall racing calendar. 99% sure it's going to be this:

10/19: Atlantic City Half Marathon

11/23: Philly Half Marathon

12/6: Rehoboth Beach Marathon

You in for Rehoboth?

 

[Ned]

This guy is a legend.

Beer mile in 4:57

http://fittish.deadspin.com/beer-mile-world-record-smashed-by-canuck-1568727918/all

It takes a special brand of idiot to be gifted enough to break the world record

Could you imagine racing him straight up while he did a beer mile and still losing?

 

[Annyong]

I haven't seen anything recently on the kids of posters? How are they doing? Track season now and I want to live vicariously through you/them...

Thanks for asking! Well my 2.5 year old is getting pretty fast but I can still take him, and my 14 month old ran into the corner of the wall last night.

 

[Brony]

Looks like I lied before but it wasn't my fault. I got the official results adjusted for starting position and there's good news and bad.

Good news - I didn't get beat by a girl. :confetti:

Bad news - the race course changed at the last minute and they didn't tell people that we actually ran 2.8 miles instead of 3.1. Frustrating for a number of reasons, but mainly since I was trying to figure out where I was at. So, I was probably more like 6:40 / mile, which makes a little more sense in all honesty. I had estimated one hard mile during my training and I was around 640 but I had to stop. So the fact that I could string together 3 of those was still good for me.

It probably seems strange that I didn't pick up on that, but I'm really not a by-the numbers runner and I really didn't know what pace I'm running at. I can clock myself for a mile anytime I want (which I pretty much never do). When I'm running a 5K or some other race, it's all about the competition and the place.

 

[MAC_32]

Shaved a few more seconds off my 4 mile, I stopped right at 24 minutes but I don't remember where I started so it could be anywhere between 3.95 and 4.05 miles

Again, felt great today. Assuming Thursday's track workout goes well I'm going to sign up for that 5k Sunday. Smaller event, a little hilly, but should be in the 40's at race time and I am just using this as a barometer anyway.

Also got talked into a Tough Mudder, finally. Serves me right for being on a runner's high today, I guess.

 

[Hang 10]

This guy is a legend.

Beer mile in 4:57

http://fittish.deadspin.com/beer-mile-world-record-smashed-by-canuck-1568727918/all

It takes a special brand of idiot to be gifted enough to break the world record

Could you imagine racing him straight up while he did a beer mile and still losing?

And losing badly. Geez. Downing beers like that and hauling that much ### is unreal.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I haven't seen anything recently on the kids of posters? How are they doing? Track season now and I want to live vicariously through you/them...

Speaking of which we haven't heard much from 2Y lately.

My kid did the one 5k (improving from 29 to 24) and is done for a while until we do that duathlon in New Orleans in June.

I've been over the top busy, but still lurking as time permits and just got back from a 8+ day vacation without internet access. My son's track season has been OK, but the lack of ability to run outside over the winter, coupled with a bit of drop in training desire (and he was tired of me telling him to go run) has put him behind, but improving. He has his 400 time down to the low 55s which has netted him a couple of 3rds and his 4x800 team is doing well and he has his time for his leg right around 2:09 (I think he can get closer to 2:00 flat or lower this year). He has a dual meet tomorrow and an invite on Friday. Coming off vacation, I suspect tomorrow will be a little rough, but hope with a week of work he'll be back in order by Friday. He made the comment to me while on vacation that he needs to start working harder. He had a rough break up that caused a total lack of motivation for just about everything. He seems to be snapping out of the funk finally.

 

[The_Man]

I haven't seen anything recently on the kids of posters? How are they doing? Track season now and I want to live vicariously through you/them...

Thanks for asking - my kid is a fall runner only. He started doing x-country last fall to get in better shape for rowing (spring sport, which is his main thing). He's having a decent season there (made the varsity lightweight boat as a sophomore, though it's only a quad and there are 5 good rowers so his spot is very tenuous). Funny thing is, he might now like x-country as much, or more, than crew. The XC team has started some spring workouts and he is dying to join them. The top returning guys all do a Warrior Dash together at the end of summer, and he was very excited that the coach asked him to be in that group. Also, his team is not running the Baltimore Half-Marathon in mid-October like they did last year. Some of you expressed concern about such an arduous run in the middle of a competitive 5K racing season and I think the coach agrees, after last year's team disappointed at the post-HM Conference Championship.

As for me, the worst part of my run Saturday was looking at the run log in my Garmin afterward. My most recent runs? March 29, Feb. 20, and back-to-back days in mid-January. Oh well, gotta (re)start somewhere. Ran 3.75 on Saturday and 4 on Sunday. Planning to run tomorrow a.m., which would be my first workday run in .... 18 months?

Mapping out my fall racing calendar. 99% sure it's going to be this:

10/19: Atlantic City Half Marathon

11/23: Philly Half Marathon

12/6: Rehoboth Beach Marathon

You in for Rehoboth?

Let me see if I actually get out on the street tomorrow at 5:30 a.m. for those 4 miles I plan to do. That will be a leading indicator. But I am probably in.

On a related note, I think I am going down to Rehoboth on June 13, as Bob Mould is playing a free show at the Dogfish Head pub. I would live in that place, if I could. Since they do the post-Marathon party, I am already thinking I might have to stay over not only the night before the race but also the night after.

 

[SteveC702]

Looks like I lied before but it wasn't my fault. I got the official results adjusted for starting position and there's good news and bad.

Good news - I didn't get beat by a girl. :confetti:

Bad news - the race course changed at the last minute and they didn't tell people that we actually ran 2.8 miles instead of 3.1. Frustrating for a number of reasons, but mainly since I was trying to figure out where I was at. So, I was probably more like 6:40 / mile, which makes a little more sense in all honesty. I had estimated one hard mile during my training and I was around 640 but I had to stop. So the fact that I could string together 3 of those was still good for me.

It probably seems strange that I didn't pick up on that, but I'm really not a by-the numbers runner and I really didn't know what pace I'm running at. I can clock myself for a mile anytime I want (which I pretty much never do). When I'm running a 5K or some other race, it's all about the competition and the place.

Hey we all gotta start somewhere in our comebacks. At least you were smart enough to run by effort and got the most out of yourself that way. Congrats man.

I actually have a slightly not-so-amusing-at-the-time-but-somewhat-funny-now story related to that. When I started running again a few years ago after taking 2-3 years off of after college, I noticed that my local gym had a 200 meter jogging track. (it was labeled as 8 laps to a mile). After I put in a couple of months of easy running as base I finally mustered up the courage to hop on the track when nobody was around and did a ladder workout. I don't remember the exact details, but based on my workout times I was in shape for a mid-16 5K. I was a little surprised, but thought I had always gotten back in shape after not running over the summer in HS XC so I went out and signed up for my first race of the year.

I show up on race day and at the start the announcers introduced the defending champ who had run 16:15-16:20 the prior year or so and warned people not to try to stick with him. I went out and hung with the guy for through a 5:25-5:30 first mile and then just absolutely died and came in barely under 18 minutes. For the first time since HS I was that moron who went out with the leaders and died. Needless to say, I quickly figured out that the track at my gym was NOT a full 200 meters.

I also happen to have the memory of an elephant, and recognized the guy who won the race when I went down to California to run my tune-up 10-mile race a month ago. 7 years and at a race a couple of thousand miles away from my debacle years ago, I got my revenge on this guy to the tune of 4+ minutes. Small world.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Looks like I lied before but it wasn't my fault. I got the official results adjusted for starting position and there's good news and bad.

Good news - I didn't get beat by a girl. :confetti:

Bad news - the race course changed at the last minute and they didn't tell people that we actually ran 2.8 miles instead of 3.1. Frustrating for a number of reasons, but mainly since I was trying to figure out where I was at. So, I was probably more like 6:40 / mile, which makes a little more sense in all honesty. I had estimated one hard mile during my training and I was around 640 but I had to stop. So the fact that I could string together 3 of those was still good for me.

It probably seems strange that I didn't pick up on that, but I'm really not a by-the numbers runner and I really didn't know what pace I'm running at. I can clock myself for a mile anytime I want (which I pretty much never do). When I'm running a 5K or some other race, it's all about the competition and the place.

That sucks. I remember being pissed that a 5K was, I think, about .05 miles short. There is no excuse for .3 miles, IMO!

 

[ghostguy123]

All your guys advice sucks............

Nah, only advice I was disregarding was MAC telling me nothing can be done. Cop out.

Go run an 18 Sunday Mac. F that thought that you can't PR.

 

[Ned]

Looks like I lied before but it wasn't my fault. I got the official results adjusted for starting position and there's good news and bad.

Good news - I didn't get beat by a girl. :confetti:

Bad news - the race course changed at the last minute and they didn't tell people that we actually ran 2.8 miles instead of 3.1. Frustrating for a number of reasons, but mainly since I was trying to figure out where I was at. So, I was probably more like 6:40 / mile, which makes a little more sense in all honesty. I had estimated one hard mile during my training and I was around 640 but I had to stop. So the fact that I could string together 3 of those was still good for me.

It probably seems strange that I didn't pick up on that, but I'm really not a by-the numbers runner and I really didn't know what pace I'm running at. I can clock myself for a mile anytime I want (which I pretty much never do). When I'm running a 5K or some other race, it's all about the competition and the place.

That sucks. I remember being pissed that a 5K was, I think, about .05 miles short. There is no excuse for .3 miles, IMO!

10% off is ridiculous. Although, there's been times I would've loved if the marathon ended at 23.6.

 

[FUBAR]

Shaved a few more seconds off my 4 mile, I stopped right at 24 minutes but I don't remember where I started so it could be anywhere between 3.95 and 4.05 miles

Again, felt great today. Assuming Thursday's track workout goes well I'm going to sign up for that 5k Sunday. Smaller event, a little hilly, but should be in the 40's at race time and I am just using this as a barometer anyway.

Also got talked into a Tough Mudder, finally. Serves me right for being on a runner's high today, I guess.

6 flat for 4? Ñice work!

 

[FUBAR]

Might have made a tapering mistake today.

Left work to hit the pool, but heard thunder which would close the pool. So instead I hit the gym. Did 12 minutes on the bike then treadmill for a 1 mile run at marathon pace, last 1/4 at half marathon pace. Four times.

Then my wife wanted me to do zumba but my legs didn't feel up to it. So I lifted weights while she did her thing and our kids were entertained by the sitting service, my 11 year old was on the treadmill for an hour walking and watching TV. Trying to get him running but this is a start at least.

 

[SteveC702]

Might have made a tapering mistake today.

Left work to hit the pool, but heard thunder which would close the pool. So instead I hit the gym. Did 12 minutes on the bike then treadmill for a 1 mile run at marathon pace, last 1/4 at half marathon pace. Four times.

Then my wife wanted me to do zumba but my legs didn't feel up to it. So I lifted weights while she did her thing and our kids were entertained by the sitting service, my 11 year old was on the treadmill for an hour walking and watching TV. Trying to get him running but this is a start at least.

Is that 4x (1 mile @ MP, 1/4 @ HMP) ?

That actually doesn't sound so bad, where do you think you made a tapering mistake?

 

[BassNBrew]

I am running the 2014 Air Force Marathon and I'm going to fu** sh** up!

Just read this in Steve's sig…classic.

 

[BassNBrew]

Go to the running store and buy a few singles to try out.

Personally just the thought of eating those things - :X

I'm with Sand, do not typically partake of the gel unless absolutely necessary i.e. very long run with no other nutrition. I run first thing in the morning with nothing more than a cup of coffee in me regardless of the distance. About 10 miles into a long run you start getting a might bit peckish and these are the least evil things I've found to carry & consume.

Lots of better/cheaper things to carry. Jellybeans, orange slices (candy ones), etc. All you need is easy to digest calories and these have those without tasting like ###.

Jelly beans - like Easter candy or the sports beans? Never liked the sports beans though I would use them occasionally.

I've never done this, but I've seen people on other forums argue in favor of jelly beans and gummi bears. GU and other products are really just fancied-up sugar. So if you prefer the taste/texture of candy instead, you're about as well off just to go that route.

Easter candy. Today I partook in M&Ms and a can of coke as the fuel during my ride (it's what they had on the table).

---

Speaking of which, today marks my longest ride ever - Tour de Blue Gran Fondo. 108 miles. Had a pretty good ride with the second group on the road. Ended up finishing in front that group and was sixth overall to finish. Not a bad day. The ride has one big climb and I had a great time on that. Two big descents and those were awful - one was very technical and there were a couple bad wrecks (I went down like a wuss). The other was fast, fast and straight and with the gusty sidewind was ### puckering - wobbling around at 45mph is the suck. All was great except the darn wind - S wind kicked up and the course was mainly NE out SW in. The last 15 miles solo sucked balls.

Now on to some embarrassing eating - I burned about 4,500 calories today.

Good to see you getting primed for BSG with a performance like this. Sub 6 this year correct???

 

[SteveC702]

I am running the 2014 Air Force Marathon and I'm going to fu** sh** up!

Just read this in Steve's sig…classic.

I got it from a story last week about Shalane Flanagan. (and what she supposedly said about the 2013 Boston Marathon at her 10 year HS class reunion). Apparently she made a statement later denying that she ever said that, but I sure as hell have no problem using it.

 

[BassNBrew]

Got in a solid 20 miler on Saturday. Heat caught up with me around mile 17. Was feeling good and pushed it up a 1.5 mile hill and the hr got high. I was never able to get it back under control. Will need to do some heat acclimation runs over the next couple of weeks. Run was about 1/2 road and 1/2 forest service road.

http://www.movescount.com/moves/move30384659

Followed that up with 45 minutes of soccer and a leg workout in the pm.

Sunday was a rest day.

Today was 10 miles at 10 min/mi pace followed by a 2 mile walk.

 

[BassNBrew]

I am running the 2014 Air Force Marathon and I'm going to fu** sh** up!

Just read this in Steve's sig…classic.

I got it from a story last week about Shalane Flanagan. (and what she supposedly said about the 2013 Boston Marathon at her 10 year HS class reunion). Apparently she made a statement later denying that she ever said that, but I sure as hell have no problem using it.

I love it.

 

[Sand]

Go to the running store and buy a few singles to try out.

Personally just the thought of eating those things - :X

I'm with Sand, do not typically partake of the gel unless absolutely necessary i.e. very long run with no other nutrition. I run first thing in the morning with nothing more than a cup of coffee in me regardless of the distance. About 10 miles into a long run you start getting a might bit peckish and these are the least evil things I've found to carry & consume.

Lots of better/cheaper things to carry. Jellybeans, orange slices (candy ones), etc. All you need is easy to digest calories and these have those without tasting like ###.

Jelly beans - like Easter candy or the sports beans? Never liked the sports beans though I would use them occasionally.

I've never done this, but I've seen people on other forums argue in favor of jelly beans and gummi bears. GU and other products are really just fancied-up sugar. So if you prefer the taste/texture of candy instead, you're about as well off just to go that route.

Easter candy. Today I partook in M&Ms and a can of coke as the fuel during my ride (it's what they had on the table).

---

Speaking of which, today marks my longest ride ever - Tour de Blue Gran Fondo. 108 miles. Had a pretty good ride with the second group on the road. Ended up finishing in front that group and was sixth overall to finish. Not a bad day. The ride has one big climb and I had a great time on that. Two big descents and those were awful - one was very technical and there were a couple bad wrecks (I went down like a wuss). The other was fast, fast and straight and with the gusty sidewind was ### puckering - wobbling around at 45mph is the suck. All was great except the darn wind - S wind kicked up and the course was mainly NE out SW in. The last 15 miles solo sucked balls.

Now on to some embarrassing eating - I burned about 4,500 calories today.

Good to see you getting primed for BSG with a performance like this. Sub 6 this year correct???

Probably unlikely, but you never know.

More importantly I put on my helmet tonight - ####### tornado passed about 2 miles north of the house. Multiple ones are now tearing up Birmingham. Good ####### grief. So awful - going right into a major metropolitan area.

 

[BassNBrew]

Go to the running store and buy a few singles to try out.

Personally just the thought of eating those things - :X

I'm with Sand, do not typically partake of the gel unless absolutely necessary i.e. very long run with no other nutrition. I run first thing in the morning with nothing more than a cup of coffee in me regardless of the distance. About 10 miles into a long run you start getting a might bit peckish and these are the least evil things I've found to carry & consume.

Lots of better/cheaper things to carry. Jellybeans, orange slices (candy ones), etc. All you need is easy to digest calories and these have those without tasting like ###.

Jelly beans - like Easter candy or the sports beans? Never liked the sports beans though I would use them occasionally.

I've never done this, but I've seen people on other forums argue in favor of jelly beans and gummi bears. GU and other products are really just fancied-up sugar. So if you prefer the taste/texture of candy instead, you're about as well off just to go that route.

Easter candy. Today I partook in M&Ms and a can of coke as the fuel during my ride (it's what they had on the table).

---

Speaking of which, today marks my longest ride ever - Tour de Blue Gran Fondo. 108 miles. Had a pretty good ride with the second group on the road. Ended up finishing in front that group and was sixth overall to finish. Not a bad day. The ride has one big climb and I had a great time on that. Two big descents and those were awful - one was very technical and there were a couple bad wrecks (I went down like a wuss). The other was fast, fast and straight and with the gusty sidewind was ### puckering - wobbling around at 45mph is the suck. All was great except the darn wind - S wind kicked up and the course was mainly NE out SW in. The last 15 miles solo sucked balls.

Now on to some embarrassing eating - I burned about 4,500 calories today.

Good to see you getting primed for BSG with a performance like this. Sub 6 this year correct???

Probably unlikely, but you never know.

More importantly I put on my helmet tonight - ####### tornado passed about 2 miles north of the house. Multiple ones are now tearing up Birmingham. Good ####### grief. So awful - going right into a major metropolitan area.

Stay safe Sand.

 

[FUBAR]

Might have made a tapering mistake today.

Left work to hit the pool, but heard thunder which would close the pool. So instead I hit the gym. Did 12 minutes on the bike then treadmill for a 1 mile run at marathon pace, last 1/4 at half marathon pace. Four times.

Then my wife wanted me to do zumba but my legs didn't feel up to it. So I lifted weights while she did her thing and our kids were entertained by the sitting service, my 11 year old was on the treadmill for an hour walking and watching TV. Trying to get him running but this is a start at least.

Is that 4x (1 mile @ MP, 1/4 @ HMP) ?

That actually doesn't sound so bad, where do you think you made a tapering mistake?

Right.

Just not sure if with the bike it was over doing it. Low impact, so it should be fine. My quads are still sore, which might be from the roller.

 

[Ned]

Might have made a tapering mistake today.

Left work to hit the pool, but heard thunder which would close the pool. So instead I hit the gym. Did 12 minutes on the bike then treadmill for a 1 mile run at marathon pace, last 1/4 at half marathon pace. Four times.

Then my wife wanted me to do zumba but my legs didn't feel up to it. So I lifted weights while she did her thing and our kids were entertained by the sitting service, my 11 year old was on the treadmill for an hour walking and watching TV. Trying to get him running but this is a start at least.

Is that 4x (1 mile @ MP, 1/4 @ HMP) ?

That actually doesn't sound so bad, where do you think you made a tapering mistake?

Right.

Just not sure if with the bike it was over doing it. Low impact, so it should be fine. My quads are still sore, which might be from the roller.

Ahhhhhh, taper paranoia.

 

[FUBAR]

Might have made a tapering mistake today.

Left work to hit the pool, but heard thunder which would close the pool. So instead I hit the gym. Did 12 minutes on the bike then treadmill for a 1 mile run at marathon pace, last 1/4 at half marathon pace. Four times.

Then my wife wanted me to do zumba but my legs didn't feel up to it. So I lifted weights while she did her thing and our kids were entertained by the sitting service, my 11 year old was on the treadmill for an hour walking and watching TV. Trying to get him running but this is a start at least.

Is that 4x (1 mile @ MP, 1/4 @ HMP) ?

That actually doesn't sound so bad, where do you think you made a tapering mistake?

Right.

Just not sure if with the bike it was over doing it. Low impact, so it should be fine. My quads are still sore, which might be from the roller.

Ahhhhhh, taper paranoia.

Scary thing is this is only my 3rd most important race this year. August and October are my true goal events.

 

[ChiefD]

Go to the running store and buy a few singles to try out.

Personally just the thought of eating those things - :X

I'm with Sand, do not typically partake of the gel unless absolutely necessary i.e. very long run with no other nutrition. I run first thing in the morning with nothing more than a cup of coffee in me regardless of the distance. About 10 miles into a long run you start getting a might bit peckish and these are the least evil things I've found to carry & consume.

Lots of better/cheaper things to carry. Jellybeans, orange slices (candy ones), etc. All you need is easy to digest calories and these have those without tasting like ###.

Jelly beans - like Easter candy or the sports beans? Never liked the sports beans though I would use them occasionally.

I've never done this, but I've seen people on other forums argue in favor of jelly beans and gummi bears. GU and other products are really just fancied-up sugar. So if you prefer the taste/texture of candy instead, you're about as well off just to go that route.

Easter candy. Today I partook in M&Ms and a can of coke as the fuel during my ride (it's what they had on the table).

---

Speaking of which, today marks my longest ride ever - Tour de Blue Gran Fondo. 108 miles. Had a pretty good ride with the second group on the road. Ended up finishing in front that group and was sixth overall to finish. Not a bad day. The ride has one big climb and I had a great time on that. Two big descents and those were awful - one was very technical and there were a couple bad wrecks (I went down like a wuss). The other was fast, fast and straight and with the gusty sidewind was ### puckering - wobbling around at 45mph is the suck. All was great except the darn wind - S wind kicked up and the course was mainly NE out SW in. The last 15 miles solo sucked balls.

Now on to some embarrassing eating - I burned about 4,500 calories today.

Good to see you getting primed for BSG with a performance like this. Sub 6 this year correct???

Probably unlikely, but you never know.

More importantly I put on my helmet tonight - ####### tornado passed about 2 miles north of the house. Multiple ones are now tearing up Birmingham. Good ####### grief. So awful - going right into a major metropolitan area.

Damn. Scary stuff. Be safe out there.

 

[Sand]

Go to the running store and buy a few singles to try out.

Personally just the thought of eating those things - :X

I'm with Sand, do not typically partake of the gel unless absolutely necessary i.e. very long run with no other nutrition. I run first thing in the morning with nothing more than a cup of coffee in me regardless of the distance. About 10 miles into a long run you start getting a might bit peckish and these are the least evil things I've found to carry & consume.

Lots of better/cheaper things to carry. Jellybeans, orange slices (candy ones), etc. All you need is easy to digest calories and these have those without tasting like ###.

Jelly beans - like Easter candy or the sports beans? Never liked the sports beans though I would use them occasionally.

I've never done this, but I've seen people on other forums argue in favor of jelly beans and gummi bears. GU and other products are really just fancied-up sugar. So if you prefer the taste/texture of candy instead, you're about as well off just to go that route.

Easter candy. Today I partook in M&Ms and a can of coke as the fuel during my ride (it's what they had on the table).

---

Speaking of which, today marks my longest ride ever - Tour de Blue Gran Fondo. 108 miles. Had a pretty good ride with the second group on the road. Ended up finishing in front that group and was sixth overall to finish. Not a bad day. The ride has one big climb and I had a great time on that. Two big descents and those were awful - one was very technical and there were a couple bad wrecks (I went down like a wuss). The other was fast, fast and straight and with the gusty sidewind was ### puckering - wobbling around at 45mph is the suck. All was great except the darn wind - S wind kicked up and the course was mainly NE out SW in. The last 15 miles solo sucked balls.

Now on to some embarrassing eating - I burned about 4,500 calories today.

Good to see you getting primed for BSG with a performance like this. Sub 6 this year correct???

Probably unlikely, but you never know.

More importantly I put on my helmet tonight - ####### tornado passed about 2 miles north of the house. Multiple ones are now tearing up Birmingham. Good ####### grief. So awful - going right into a major metropolitan area.

Damn. Scary stuff. Be safe out there.

Luckily no issues at my house, though we have another round today. By straight line approximation it passed a mile north of the house. It touched down in one of the Birmingham burbs and tore things up pretty good - luckily noone injured. When it got toward the real populated areas it broke up. Very lucky.

 

[beer 302]

Luckily no issues at my house, though we have another round today. By straight line approximation it passed a mile north of the house. It touched down in one of the Birmingham burbs and tore things up pretty good - luckily noone injured. When it got toward the real populated areas it broke up. Very lucky.

Good to hear Sand, stay safe, check in when you can. Rent Sunbelt equipment if necessary

 

[sho nuff]

Good to hear you are alright Sand...some nasty stuff was brewing yesterday and could pop up today too. They were really throwing down all the caution signs here and we were lucky it stayed cloudy all day and cool and none of the severe stuff really developed.

Today its all sunny clear and warm...so would not surprise me if anything popped up this afternoon/evening as I watch the radar of stuff popping up near Memphis now and down in Mississippi and Louisiana heading up this way.

Got 3.5 miles in today...nice to be out on the roads even on a warm morning.

Legs were great but HR and breathing didn't have much left when I cut it off before I overdid it just getting back.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

End result? 1:34:23 which was a PR. I also won the 40-44 age group (to be fair….a smaller race). The coolest part? As I went up to get my AG first place plaque, it was presented to be by Meb Keflezighi, who won the Boston Marathon just 6 days earlier! I got several photos with him (posted on FB for those who I’m friends with) and he was completely down to earth and very cool.

It was a lot of fun and I’m glad I did it.

Cool. Nice job.

 

[Ned]

Sand, how is the new HR watch working for you? I see TomTom jumped on that train...might have to ask for another Christmas present this year

I really want one of these all in ones, but 3 data elements on the screen?

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/04/tomtom-cardio.html

Looks like a solid review. Might be an early birthday present to me.

Speaking of gifts; just got my 6" x 36" roller!

Ugh, I'm so close to preordering the runner cardio.

The lowest I've seen my rHR was 49; mHR is 196. All this chatter makes me want to experiment with HRR.

I went ahead and pre-ordered the runner cardio. Can't wait to ditch this buggy motoactv and the chest strap!

 

[Sand]

Sand, how is the new HR watch working for you? I see TomTom jumped on that train...might have to ask for another Christmas present this year

I really want one of these all in ones, but 3 data elements on the screen?

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/04/tomtom-cardio.html

Looks like a solid review. Might be an early birthday present to me.

Speaking of gifts; just got my 6" x 36" roller!

Ugh, I'm so close to preordering the runner cardio.

The lowest I've seen my rHR was 49; mHR is 196. All this chatter makes me want to experiment with HRR.

I went ahead and pre-ordered the runner cardio. Can't wait to ditch this buggy motoactv and the chest strap!

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