Ran a 10k in June (4 Viewers)

[Harris]

so whats up in this thread in the past couple months?

i'm heading to italy for 4 months on May 20th, anybody know of a way to find races there?

 

[2Young2BBald]

so whats up in this thread in the past couple months?

i'm heading to italy for 4 months on May 20th, anybody know of a way to find races there?

There are a handful of memebers on Athlinks from Italy, you may want t give one of them a try (if you cn translate).

 

[gruecd]

Looks like rain is the topic du jour, as I'll likely be training in it, too. Oh, well. Forecast says scattered t-storms, so hopefully I don't get hit.

 

[Keggers]

Thanks everyone. I hadn't considered chaffing as an issue for an 8K.

To recap: l'll be wearing as little cotton as possible, a baseball cap (not ideal but I don't own a visor or running cap), a towel in my waistband, and a gabage bag pre-race. I'll have a change of clothes for post-race. I think I'm ready to kick a**!

 

[gruecd]

Thanks everyone. I hadn't considered chaffing as an issue for an 8K. To recap: l'll be wearing as little cotton as possible, a baseball cap (not ideal but I don't own a visor or running cap), a towel in my waistband, and a gabage bag pre-race. I'll have a change of clothes for post-race. I think I'm ready to kick a**!

DO WORK!!!!

 

[El Floppo]

Thanks everyone. I hadn't considered chaffing as an issue for an 8K. To recap: l'll be wearing as little cotton as possible, a baseball cap (not ideal but I don't own a visor or running cap), a towel in my waistband, and a gabage bag pre-race. I'll have a change of clothes for post-race. I think I'm ready to kick a**!

As much as I respect Poppa and his mega-mile experience... I'm not exactly sure what a wet towel tucked into your wet waistband is going to do for you. The rain will keep you and your shirt fairly "clean", in terms of using it to wipe your eyes of sweat- plus, the cap will help keep rain and sweat out of your eyes to begin with. The towel, IMO, will just be added weight and bounce.Am I wrong about that?

 

[gruecd]

2Young, I don't think it'll work. I know I should do a shorter race to prepare, and I'd like to come to Climax, but I'm just getting back from a week-long conference the night before. After being gone all week, my wife would have my head if I told her I was going to Climax with you. Besides, if I didn't do well, then Climax would be a big let-down.

I'd think she'd be especially upset if you told her that you were going to Climax via 69.

 

[Sand]

General question for you guys. I need a new bike. I want to get a road bike that can double as something to ride at a tri. What should I be looking for in a road bike that can be used both ways?

Take Specialized. They have two lines of bikes - competitive and endurance. Any reason to steer toward one or the other? Not real sure on where to go. I'm considering all kinds of things, from my lcal LBS to building my own to ebay deals (though I worry about fit). This bike looks halfway decent and for a good price. But it and ebay purchase and recovering from a bad purchase would be hard. Sigh. Everytime I sit down and try to figure what to do I get more confused.

 

[Poppa]

Thanks everyone. I hadn't considered chaffing as an issue for an 8K. To recap: l'll be wearing as little cotton as possible, a baseball cap (not ideal but I don't own a visor or running cap), a towel in my waistband, and a gabage bag pre-race. I'll have a change of clothes for post-race. I think I'm ready to kick a**!

As much as I respect Poppa and his mega-mile experience... I'm not exactly sure what a wet towel tucked into your wet waistband is going to do for you. The rain will keep you and your shirt fairly "clean", in terms of using it to wipe your eyes of sweat- plus, the cap will help keep rain and sweat out of your eyes to begin with. The towel, IMO, will just be added weight and bounce.Am I wrong about that?

Yep!Bandanna...not towel. Much lighter...much easier to wring out with rain. Much 'softer' on the eye area. I nearly always carry my bandanna simply looped around my ring finger...as I'm carrying my 'stick'. In the waistband is only if I don't expect to use it much...or at all. You sweat...the only part of the bandanna that is then NOT sweaty is the little bit (1/2 or so...) hanging out. Cap: Soon as the cap band is full of sweat...well, it won't take any more! No longer effective at keeping the brow or eyes 'sweat-free'. Effective at directly keeping the rain out, however. Re: shirt and rain and clean. Sort of a mixed bag. Can be done, but....do you wanna shimmy yer bod free enough trying to lift your shirt up high enough...or drop your head low enough...to wipe yer eyes with a wet shirt - 1/2 wet from rain...1/2 wet from yer belly sweat...?Bandanna is a pretty darn useful piece of equipment. That...my stick...and my Camelbak - I never run without!

 

[El Floppo]

General question for you guys. I need a new bike. I want to get a road bike that can double as something to ride at a tri. What should I be looking for in a road bike that can be used both ways?

Take Specialized. They have two lines of bikes - competitive and endurance. Any reason to steer toward one or the other? Not real sure on where to go. I'm considering all kinds of things, from my lcal LBS to building my own to ebay deals (though I worry about fit). This bike looks halfway decent and for a good price. But it and ebay purchase and recovering from a bad purchase would be hard. Sigh. Everytime I sit down and try to figure what to do I get more confused.

We need to hear Culdeus about this.But some general differences from a retired tri-guy:

- Geometry for a tri bike is more aggressive- ie: the seat tube is closer to 90 degrees than a road bike... puts you out over the cranks and aero-bars to generate more power and more aero in the tuck, aero position.

- Bars... tri-bars don't have drops (are the bull-horn type) and ideally have aero-bars, either integral or clipped on.

- I don't know that brand at all, nor do I know how those Specialized bikes are set up.

- I really recommend riding whatever it is you're going to buy before buying it... if you can find it elsewhere for cheaper online, go ahead and do that- but if you're looking at spending a grand+, IMO you should fit the bike.

Bottom line, IMO- how much tri/TT riding are you going to be doing? A race here or there per year- I'd recommend getting a standard roadbike and throwing aerobars on for your races- from what I'm told, the road bikes are more comfortable (less aggressive frame) over the long haul. BnB just posted an interesting article about aerobars effectiveness in comparison to TT bikes etc- worth a look- and bottom line, the aerobars are your best bang for the buck for increasing speed/wattage.

If your riding is more about supporting your tris (which was my situation) than putting road miles in, than I'd say to go with a tri-frame (which can be had cheaply online- I got both of mine on Ebay) so that all your miles are done on the bike you'll be using to race.

If you go the tri-bike route, I'll gladly do my best to answer any questions with the caveat that I'm 3+ years away from being immersed in this stuff.

 

[Sand]

General question for you guys. I need a new bike. I want to get a road bike that can double as something to ride at a tri. What should I be looking for in a road bike that can be used both ways?

Take Specialized. They have two lines of bikes - competitive and endurance. Any reason to steer toward one or the other? Not real sure on where to go. I'm considering all kinds of things, from my lcal LBS to building my own to ebay deals (though I worry about fit). This bike looks halfway decent and for a good price. But it and ebay purchase and recovering from a bad purchase would be hard. Sigh. Everytime I sit down and try to figure what to do I get more confused.

We need to hear Culdeus about this.But some general differences from a retired tri-guy:

- Geometry for a tri bike is more aggressive- ie: the seat tube is closer to 90 degrees than a road bike... puts you out over the cranks and aero-bars to generate more power and more aero in the tuck, aero position.

- Bars... tri-bars don't have drops (are the bull-horn type) and ideally have aero-bars, either integral or clipped on.

- I don't know that brand at all, nor do I know how those Specialized bikes are set up.

- I really recommend riding whatever it is you're going to buy before buying it... if you can find it elsewhere for cheaper online, go ahead and do that- but if you're looking at spending a grand+, IMO you should fit the bike.

Bottom line, IMO- how much tri/TT riding are you going to be doing? A race here or there per year- I'd recommend getting a standard roadbike and throwing aerobars on for your races- from what I'm told, the road bikes are more comfortable (less aggressive frame) over the long haul. BnB just posted an interesting article about aerobars effectiveness in comparison to TT bikes etc- worth a look- and bottom line, the aerobars are your best bang for the buck for increasing speed/wattage.

If your riding is more about supporting your tris (which was my situation) than putting road miles in, than I'd say to go with a tri-frame (which can be had cheaply online- I got both of mine on Ebay) so that all your miles are done on the bike you'll be using to race.

If you go the tri-bike route, I'll gladly do my best to answer any questions with the caveat that I'm 3+ years away from being immersed in this stuff.

Definitely getting a road bike. I want to be able to do both and don't want a specific tri bike. I probably won't be doing a lot of tris (at least not yet) and want a good road bike anyway. I could get an entry level bike, but figure I might as well just start out with a carbon frame since I would likely want one down the road - they're not that much more expensive over aluminum with the same components. That is also the reason I thought about building one - no replacing parts, just get what I might want from the start. I missed the post from BnB - how far back was that?

 

[pigskinliquors]

General question for you guys. I need a new bike. I want to get a road bike that can double as something to ride at a tri. What should I be looking for in a road bike that can be used both ways?

Take Specialized. They have two lines of bikes - competitive and endurance. Any reason to steer toward one or the other? Not real sure on where to go. I'm considering all kinds of things, from my lcal LBS to building my own to ebay deals (though I worry about fit). This bike looks halfway decent and for a good price. But it and ebay purchase and recovering from a bad purchase would be hard. Sigh. Everytime I sit down and try to figure what to do I get more confused.

We need to hear Culdeus about this.But some general differences from a retired tri-guy:

- Geometry for a tri bike is more aggressive- ie: the seat tube is closer to 90 degrees than a road bike... puts you out over the cranks and aero-bars to generate more power and more aero in the tuck, aero position.

- Bars... tri-bars don't have drops (are the bull-horn type) and ideally have aero-bars, either integral or clipped on.

- I don't know that brand at all, nor do I know how those Specialized bikes are set up.

- I really recommend riding whatever it is you're going to buy before buying it... if you can find it elsewhere for cheaper online, go ahead and do that- but if you're looking at spending a grand+, IMO you should fit the bike.

Bottom line, IMO- how much tri/TT riding are you going to be doing? A race here or there per year- I'd recommend getting a standard roadbike and throwing aerobars on for your races- from what I'm told, the road bikes are more comfortable (less aggressive frame) over the long haul. BnB just posted an interesting article about aerobars effectiveness in comparison to TT bikes etc- worth a look- and bottom line, the aerobars are your best bang for the buck for increasing speed/wattage.

If your riding is more about supporting your tris (which was my situation) than putting road miles in, than I'd say to go with a tri-frame (which can be had cheaply online- I got both of mine on Ebay) so that all your miles are done on the bike you'll be using to race.

If you go the tri-bike route, I'll gladly do my best to answer any questions with the caveat that I'm 3+ years away from being immersed in this stuff.

Definitely getting a road bike. I want to be able to do both and don't want a specific tri bike. I probably won't be doing a lot of tris (at least not yet) and want a good road bike anyway. I could get an entry level bike, but figure I might as well just start out with a carbon frame since I would likely want one down the road - they're not that much more expensive over aluminum with the same components. That is also the reason I thought about building one - no replacing parts, just get what I might want from the start. I missed the post from BnB - how far back was that?

PM Culdeus is my best advice, as he helped me tremendously in getting both my tri and road bikes. From my experience, I'm ecstatic that I have both bikes, but utilize my road bike much more. IF you think you are going to progress to either a half or full IM, get both; otherwise get a road bike with somewhat upright geometry; and add aero-bars to it. For sprint and Olympic tri's, you aren't going to gain much of an advantage with tri geometry. I have a friend who purchased a Bottechia (aluminum frame; not carbon), and it is a really good bike for the money. It has a solid frame and good components. The Vuelta wheels it comes with have a ton of flex, and are quite heavy = I'd replace those first. Culdeus will most likely recommend Randall Scott while I had really good luck with Bikes Direct. Spend a ton of time making sure you have the right size; wheels are more important than you most likely think; and weight is overrated. As you find bikes; please feel free to post them on here, and we'll do our best to give our advice on them. I found my last bike as a steal on Ebay; and used Culdeus and others to ensure that I was getting the best bike for the money (= "Heidi"!). Best of luck!

 

[itriple]

Sounds like your getting ready for crazy legs.

Ill be there. I might just run in a speedo.

 

[El Floppo]

General question for you guys. I need a new bike. I want to get a road bike that can double as something to ride at a tri. What should I be looking for in a road bike that can be used both ways?

Take Specialized. They have two lines of bikes - competitive and endurance. Any reason to steer toward one or the other? Not real sure on where to go. I'm considering all kinds of things, from my lcal LBS to building my own to ebay deals (though I worry about fit). This bike looks halfway decent and for a good price. But it and ebay purchase and recovering from a bad purchase would be hard. Sigh. Everytime I sit down and try to figure what to do I get more confused.

We need to hear Culdeus about this.But some general differences from a retired tri-guy:

- Geometry for a tri bike is more aggressive- ie: the seat tube is closer to 90 degrees than a road bike... puts you out over the cranks and aero-bars to generate more power and more aero in the tuck, aero position.

- Bars... tri-bars don't have drops (are the bull-horn type) and ideally have aero-bars, either integral or clipped on.

- I don't know that brand at all, nor do I know how those Specialized bikes are set up.

- I really recommend riding whatever it is you're going to buy before buying it... if you can find it elsewhere for cheaper online, go ahead and do that- but if you're looking at spending a grand+, IMO you should fit the bike.

Bottom line, IMO- how much tri/TT riding are you going to be doing? A race here or there per year- I'd recommend getting a standard roadbike and throwing aerobars on for your races- from what I'm told, the road bikes are more comfortable (less aggressive frame) over the long haul. BnB just posted an interesting article about aerobars effectiveness in comparison to TT bikes etc- worth a look- and bottom line, the aerobars are your best bang for the buck for increasing speed/wattage.

If your riding is more about supporting your tris (which was my situation) than putting road miles in, than I'd say to go with a tri-frame (which can be had cheaply online- I got both of mine on Ebay) so that all your miles are done on the bike you'll be using to race.

If you go the tri-bike route, I'll gladly do my best to answer any questions with the caveat that I'm 3+ years away from being immersed in this stuff.

Definitely getting a road bike. I want to be able to do both and don't want a specific tri bike. I probably won't be doing a lot of tris (at least not yet) and want a good road bike anyway. I could get an entry level bike, but figure I might as well just start out with a carbon frame since I would likely want one down the road - they're not that much more expensive over aluminum with the same components. That is also the reason I thought about building one - no replacing parts, just get what I might want from the start. I missed the post from BnB - how far back was that?

You couldn't have made it any more clear in your OP that you wanted a road bike. Brain no workey.

Ultegra components are solid- I've had bike tech guys make the argument that they're better than DuraAce for some things (hub jumps to mind). I know nothing about Vuelta wheels or bars. As a little heavier guy, I've been a big fan of the Mavic 33s for a bomb-proof training wheel- I put a lot of miles on my original wheels and it took a 1972 Ford F150 to do them in. I went out and bought another pair online.

I've been riding Ti for my last two bikes after moving on from steel- I love the Ti (again, as a larger guy) for getting miles in and TTing. Never been on Carbon- but I hear all the kids are using it.

Basically, I'm just flapping my gums until Culdeus shows up.

 

[2Young2BBald]

You couldn't have made it any more clear in your OP that you wanted a road bike. Brain no workey.

Ultegra components are solid- I've had bike tech guys make the argument that they're better than DuraAce for some things (hub jumps to mind). I know nothing about Vuelta wheels or bars. As a little heavier guy, I've been a big fan of the Mavic 33s for a bomb-proof training wheel- I put a lot of miles on my original wheels and it took a 1972 Ford F150 to do them in. I went out and bought another pair online.

I've been riding Ti for my last two bikes after moving on from steel- I love the Ti (again, as a larger guy) for getting miles in and TTing. Never been on Carbon- but I hear all the kids are using it.

Basically, I'm just flapping my gums until Culdeus shows up.

Hey, Look an Oly in NYC in 92 Days You are a hell of a lot more interesting now that you are back at it. It looks as though the registration is full, but a few of the charities still have room.

 

[BassNBrew]

General question for you guys. I need a new bike. I want to get a road bike that can double as something to ride at a tri. What should I be looking for in a road bike that can be used both ways?

Take Specialized. They have two lines of bikes - competitive and endurance. Any reason to steer toward one or the other? Not real sure on where to go. I'm considering all kinds of things, from my lcal LBS to building my own to ebay deals (though I worry about fit). This bike looks halfway decent and for a good price. But it and ebay purchase and recovering from a bad purchase would be hard. Sigh. Everytime I sit down and try to figure what to do I get more confused.

Pretty solid do all bike when you add clip-ons. http://cgi.ebay.com/Cervelo-Soloist-Team-R...%3A1%7C294%3A50

 

[BassNBrew]

General question for you guys. I need a new bike. I want to get a road bike that can double as something to ride at a tri. What should I be looking for in a road bike that can be used both ways?

Take Specialized. They have two lines of bikes - competitive and endurance. Any reason to steer toward one or the other? Not real sure on where to go. I'm considering all kinds of things, from my lcal LBS to building my own to ebay deals (though I worry about fit). This bike looks halfway decent and for a good price. But it and ebay purchase and recovering from a bad purchase would be hard. Sigh. Everytime I sit down and try to figure what to do I get more confused.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cervelo-Team-Soloist-5...%3A1%7C294%3A50

 

[BassNBrew]

You runners need to HTFU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEd0w-BmfI&NR=1

The whole clip is worth watching, but if you're short on time, forward to the 3:40 mark.

 

[BassNBrew]

Well here's my training week in review....

Saturday: Two 7.5 mile TTs. 21.5 out, 25.1 back. Very cold day and I didn't warm up properly for a good performance. 32 miles total.

Sunday: Recovery day.

Monday: Recovery day.

Tuesday: Bike lacate threshold workout. 3 x 8 min intervals at at 230 to 320 watt ramp up and down. 5 x 1 min intervals with one min recoveries at 320, 350, 380, 410, and 450 watts.

Wednesday: 5 mile warm-up run. 5 x 800m intervals at 3:40 to 3:45 clips with a 1/2 mile cool down.

Thursday: 54 mile easy bike ride roughly at 18 mph average.

Friday: 5 mile trail run. 46:49 total - 9:20, 18:45, 28:00, 37:20, 46:49

 

[gruecd]

You runners need to HTFU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEd0w-BmfI&NR=1

The whole clip is worth watching, but if you're short on time, forward to the 3:40 mark.

So you cyclists are a bunch of dirty bastards. What's your point?

 

[BassNBrew]

You runners need to HTFU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEd0w-BmfI&NR=1

The whole clip is worth watching, but if you're short on time, forward to the 3:40 mark.

So you cyclists are a bunch of dirty bastards. What's your point?

When are you going to get a bike??? At your size with your fitness, you'd dominate on the TT scene. Plus you'd be able to walk a couple of decades from now.

 

[bentley]

I think I'm ready to get some non-cotton socks. Is there a store you guys shop at that sells them or do I have to buy them online?

 

[culdeus]

I think I'm ready to get some non-cotton socks. Is there a store you guys shop at that sells them or do I have to buy them online?

Bamboo is the bomb.

 

[bentley]

I think I'm ready to get some non-cotton socks. Is there a store you guys shop at that sells them or do I have to buy them online?

Bamboo is the bomb.

Great. I'll just head to the local bamboo outlet and pick up a pair. I assume it's somewhere close to the World Market.

 

[culdeus]

Too drunk to talk bikes right now. Gonna get up and ride in morning. Thoughts after that. Only 18 mph sustained 30 gusts at sunrise in the morning. Can't wait.

 

[culdeus]

I think I'm ready to get some non-cotton socks. Is there a store you guys shop at that sells them or do I have to buy them online?

Bamboo is the bomb.

Great. I'll just head to the local bamboo outlet and pick up a pair. I assume it's somewhere close to the World Market.

I'm serious. Bamboo socks. Really.

 

[bentley]

I think I'm ready to get some non-cotton socks. Is there a store you guys shop at that sells them or do I have to buy them online?

Bamboo is the bomb.

Great. I'll just head to the local bamboo outlet and pick up a pair. I assume it's somewhere close to the World Market.

I'm serious. Bamboo socks. Really.

Where?

 

[Sand]

Too drunk to talk bikes right now. Gonna get up and ride in morning. Thoughts after that. Only 18 mph sustained 30 gusts at sunrise in the morning. Can't wait.

Could be playing golf in that.Oh, and thanks for talking bikes. I have a MTB, so relatively familiar with those, but don't really don't know a whole bunch about choosing a road bike.

 

[BassNBrew]

Dist: 0.18 mi (0:00:19)

Energy: 21.0 kJ

Cals Burn: 20.0 kcal

Climbing: 0 ft

Min Avg Max

Power 763 1103.3 1333 W

Aero 0 1785.7 17288 W

Rolling 65 78.3 85 W

Gravity -436 -265.0 -141 W

Speed 30.4 36.5 39.6 mi/h

Wind 36.5 43.6 48.8 mi/h

Elev 778 788 796 ft

Slope -2.4 -1.52 -0.7 %

Caden 104 109.3 115 rpm

HR 122 139.5 159 bpm

Aero: 0.303; Fric: 10.72

240 lbs; 4/23/2009 5:49 AM

74 degF; 1016 mbar

I like my new toy. Stats from a sprint Thur nite.

 

[Sand]

Perhaps this bike will do...

 

[gruecd]

Cold rain + wind = long run postponed until tomorrow or maybe even Monday.

(And don't even give me the "HTFU" crap. Don't want to get pneumonia 3 weeks before Green Bay!)

 

[gruecd]

Dared the rain and cold and went for a run. Legs definitely not in shape for 3:10 marathon, so the BQ will have to wait until this fall in Chicago. Half marathon it is for Green Bay!

 

[BassNBrew]

Dared the rain and cold and went for a run. Legs definitely not in shape for 3:10 marathon, so the BQ will have to wait until this fall in Chicago. Half marathon it is for Green Bay!

S(marten)TFU...you want to get pneumonia before Green Bay???

 

[bentley]

Just got back from an hour on the bike. Have no feeling 'down there.' Thinking about giving myself the reverse stranger.

 

[mr. furley]

Cold rain + wind = long run postponed until tomorrow or maybe even Monday. (And don't even give me the "HTFU" crap. Don't want to get pneumonia 3 weeks before Green Bay!)

Dared the rain and cold and went for a run. Legs definitely not in shape for 3:10 marathon, so the BQ will have to wait until this fall in Chicago. Half marathon it is for Green Bay!

got out there in the rain around 9 this morning. kinda refreshing actually. nice and cool. and quiet

 

[BassNBrew]

Just got back from an hour on the bike. Have no feeling 'down there.' Thinking about giving myself the reverse stranger.

Just ignore it, you'll come to like the sensation. Now if you're planning on kids....well time to go back to destorying your knees.

 

[bentley]

Just got back from an hour on the bike. Have no feeling 'down there.' Thinking about giving myself the reverse stranger.

Just ignore it, you'll come to like the sensation. Now if you're planning on kids....well time to go back to destorying your knees.

Took a pile of money and gaggle of doctors to get us pregnant the first time, so I'm already ahead of the game there. Trying to go 50/50 on the bike & run now so that I can be both completely impotent and unable to walk by the time I'm 50.

 

[tri-man 47]

Sounds like your getting ready for crazy legs. Ill be there. I might just run in a speedo.

Although, at the Hawaii Ironman each year, they have a little day-before run where the runners wear small, tight whitey-tighties in opposition to the competitors who strut around in their speedos.Keggers - Sand - I have a pretty basic Fuji road bike; clip pedals/shoes, no aero bars. I just don't race enough to justify spending the money to knock several minutes off of my race times. fwiwYoung Harris - :hi:At some point, I want to chill out and have a few cold ones with Poppa.----------Toughest workout of the season this morning. Did a three-hour bike/run brick: biked for two hours (getting caught with a couple hard rain showers, then strong winds on the return leg), then changed to running gear and ran 8 miles. Ended up averaging 8 min/mile, which surprised me. I learned I need to really take it easy starting the run. The legs are 'fresh' for running and they're warmed up ...easy to start a bit too fast.I really wanted to stop at times over the last three miles, then remembered BnB: "you can also go another 10 seconds." I'd think about that, and then the negative thought would pass and I'd push on. That really helped to ward off those occasional weak moments.

 

[prosopis]

I am still doing the treadmill thing at the Y.

I am having a hard time getting 3 miles in on the treadmill. I dont understand. I thought the treadmill was supposed to be easier. I have started doing a weight circuit thing prior to running. Could this be it? I will say the eye candy at the Y has turned me into a treadmill stalker.

Can someone explain what a good heart rate is? I just dont get it. They have things on the treadmill but they dont make sense to me. I am assuming I am supposed to get my heart to a certain rate and keep it there.

 

[prosopis]

I am still doing the treadmill thing at the Y.I am having a hard time getting 3 miles in on the treadmill. I dont understand. I thought the treadmill was supposed to be easier. I have started doing a weight circuit thing prior to running. Could this be it? I will say the eye candy at the Y has turned me into a treadmill stalker.Can someone explain what a good heart rate is? I just dont get it. They have things on the treadmill but they dont make sense to me. I am assuming I am supposed to get my heart to a certain rate and keep it there.

Is this right? Can I just get a number without all the math? The Target Heart Rate (THR), or Training Heart Rate, is a desired range of heart rate reached during aerobic exercise which enables one's heart and lungs to receive the most benefit from a workout. This theoretical range varies based on one's physical condition, gender, and previous training. Below are two ways to calculate one's Target Heart Rate. In each of these methods, there is an element called "intensity" which is expressed as a percentage. The THR can be calculated by using a range of 50%–85% intensity. However, it is crucial to derive an accurate HRmax to ensure these calculations are meaningful (see above).[edit] Karvonen methodThe Karvonen method factors in Resting Heart Rate (HRrest) to calculate Target Heart Rate (THR):THR = ((HRmax − HRrest) × %Intensity) + HRrest Example for someone with a HRmax of 180 and a HRrest of 70:50% intensity: ((180 − 70) × 0.50) + 70 = 125 bpm85% intensity: ((180 − 70) × 0.85) + 70 = 163 bpm(addendum - what this does is change your target heart rate, from (for example) 50% of your maximum heart rate, to 50% of your available heart rate range (as we all have a max & min heart rate, min being at rest) plus your resting heart rate. The results will then be different from simply calculating &age of MaxHr. As can be seen, maxhr is the basis anyway, and in itself inaccurate (see above). Also, when in one "zone" or another, you are burning a mixture of carbs & fat - never using purely the aerobic or anaerobic energy systems, so they in themselves are fairly arbitrary & have fuzzy edges. Individuals are so different that all of these zones etc should be re-adjusted for each person; one person can feel very comfortable at 70%MHR whereas another will be ready to drop at 60%. As with many of the assumptions made in the medical & fitness world, the fact is that more people are far off the norm than are close to it - it's in the nature of population statistics. These rules rarely actually apply, but are used to rationalise the industry and sell it as scientific to the general public.

 

[prosopis]

Interesting

I accidentally clicked on the first page of this thread. Folks on page one made my tread mill trouble sound common.

I think I figured my heart rate out.

220-42*60%=106.8

220-42*90%=160.2

My heart rate while running should be between 106.8-160.2

Correct?

 

[Poppa]

At some point, I want to chill out and have a few cold ones with Poppa.

Come out to Hell, Michigan for Dances with Dirt in September...

 

[2Young2BBald]

At some point, I want to chill out and have a few cold ones with Poppa.

Come out to Hell, Michigan for Dances with Dirt in September...

How'd you get in? My team and I (minus Tri-Man) did the lottery run and didn't get picked. We are in for 2010. ETA, I'll be on 3 or 4 legs of the DWD course tomorrow running the Trail 1/2 Marathon.

 

[tri-man 47]

InterestingI accidentally clicked on the first page of this thread. Folks on page one made my tread mill trouble sound common. I think I figured my heart rate out.220-42*60%=106.8220-42*90%=160.2My heart rate while running should be between 106.8-160.2Correct?

Sounds about right. If I remember it right, another simple rule of thumb is that your max heartrate should be 220 minus your age.Poppa, you're doing Dances With Dirt? Had you picked up on the fact the 2Young tried to get a team in this year? Small world!

 

[Poppa]

At some point, I want to chill out and have a few cold ones with Poppa.

Come out to Hell, Michigan for Dances with Dirt in September...

How'd you get in? My team and I (minus Tri-Man) did the lottery run and didn't get picked. We are in for 2010. ETA, I'll be on 3 or 4 legs of the DWD course tomorrow running the Trail 1/2 Marathon.

No team...just me an' my stick!!/2 o' me wants to hear about the trail...other 1/2'd ruther be surprised!

Be down at DWD in Gnawbone in a couple weeks...

 

[2Young2BBald]

At some point, I want to chill out and have a few cold ones with Poppa.

Come out to Hell, Michigan for Dances with Dirt in September...

How'd you get in? My team and I (minus Tri-Man) did the lottery run and didn't get picked. We are in for 2010. ETA, I'll be on 3 or 4 legs of the DWD course tomorrow running the Trail 1/2 Marathon.

No team...just me an' my stick!!/2 o' me wants to hear about the trail...other 1/2'd ruther be surprised!

Be down at DWD in Gnawbone in a couple weeks...

Gotcha, did even think about solo ultras. Which one are you doing? I am supposed to do a Tri up in Tawas that same day, but plans are falling a part a bit for that weekend. If I don't do the tri, I am thinking about volunteering out there for DWD.As for the trail (Potto), I have heard plenty already even wothout seeing it. For tomorrow, the word is going to be MUDD. We have had a series of 3 downpours that have rolled though there with more on the way for tonight. It should be fun!

 

[Poppa]

At some point, I want to chill out and have a few cold ones with Poppa.

Come out to Hell, Michigan for Dances with Dirt in September...

How'd you get in? My team and I (minus Tri-Man) did the lottery run and didn't get picked. We are in for 2010. ETA, I'll be on 3 or 4 legs of the DWD course tomorrow running the Trail 1/2 Marathon.

No team...just me an' my stick!!/2 o' me wants to hear about the trail...other 1/2'd ruther be surprised!

Be down at DWD in Gnawbone in a couple weeks...

Gotcha, did even think about solo ultras. Which one are you doing? I am supposed to do a Tri up in Tawas that same day, but plans are falling a part a bit for that weekend. If I don't do the tri, I am thinking about volunteering out there for DWD.As for the trail (Potto), I have heard plenty already even wothout seeing it. For tomorrow, the word is going to be MUDD. We have had a series of 3 downpours that have rolled though there with more on the way for tonight. It should be fun!

I LOVE mudd! I'm already slower'n dirt...so what's a little mud?

50k'll be my bag for both 'Dirts'...

 

[2Young2BBald]

Questioning my own sanity this morning. Seriously, who gets up before 5am (you know its early when there are < 6 members signed in the FFA) to brew and extra strong cup of coffee to activate the system to then drive an hour and a 1/2 to then run 13.1 miles in the rain and mudd? If the old "red skies at morning" thingy holds true its going to be all kinds of nasty today. Its every shade of red out there already.

 

[Poppa]

Questioning my own sanity this morning. Seriously, who gets up before 5am (you know its early when there are < 6 members signed in the FFA) to brew and extra strong cup of coffee to activate the system to then drive an hour and a 1/2 to then run 13.1 miles in the rain and mudd? If the old "red skies at morning" thingy holds true its going to be all kinds of nasty today. Its every shade of red out there already.

:envy:

 

[culdeus]

I think I'm ready to get some non-cotton socks. Is there a store you guys shop at that sells them or do I have to buy them online?

Bamboo is the bomb.

Great. I'll just head to the local bamboo outlet and pick up a pair. I assume it's somewhere close to the World Market.

I'm serious. Bamboo socks. Really.

Where?

hell if I now wife ordered them. I'll see what I can do. I assume they are all mostly equal. Google perhaps?