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Ran a 10k in June (7 Viewers)

We finished last nights Spin class with a "Bookend" - start with a normal pace and, over a minute, bring the pace up to a good 75% effort. Then comes the "Bookend:" increase tension/gearing and sprint for 20 seconds, go back to ~90% effort and hold for nearly 2 minutes, then finish with a 20 second sprint. Instructor told us we should be redlining/well past the lactic threshold. :goodposting:

One of the ladies said she was "Lactate intolerant."

 
We finished last nights Spin class with a "Bookend" - start with a normal pace and, over a minute, bring the pace up to a good 75% effort. Then comes the "Bookend:" increase tension/gearing and sprint for 20 seconds, go back to ~90% effort and hold for nearly 2 minutes, then finish with a 20 second sprint. Instructor told us we should be redlining/well past the lactic threshold. :lmao:

One of the ladies said she was "Lactate intolerant."
OMG. :thumbup: :excited:
 
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We finished last nights Spin class with a "Bookend" - start with a normal pace and, over a minute, bring the pace up to a good 75% effort. Then comes the "Bookend:" increase tension/gearing and sprint for 20 seconds, go back to ~90% effort and hold for nearly 2 minutes, then finish with a 20 second sprint. Instructor told us we should be redlining/well past the lactic threshold. :lmao:

One of the ladies said she was "Lactate intolerant."
That's fantastic! I have a small group of friends here that are thinking about getting cycling jerseys made; and "Lactate Intolerants" would be a most awesome name :lmao:
 
anyone have the Garmin Forerunner 305? My wife got it for me for my birthday, but at xmas time she got my a Polar HR monitor (no GPS). Wondering if keeping the Garmin is worth it since I have a new Polar HRM. Any thoughts? I don't need both...
I have a 305 and really can't imagine running/riding w/o it. GPS = speed, distance information at all times. Combine this with HR data, and and elevation information and you have a training tool. Knowing HR is nice, but you need the other inputs to know what is going on. My .02.
A question.Last year whenever I would go on runs of 8 miles or more I would take a energy packet with me. I would take the packet around mile 5. I guess I never really felt an energy surge, but figured it was helping some. A few weeks ago I ran out of packets and have not stopped in to a store to grab any more. The last several Saturdays I have gone on 9+ mile runs. No water, no gel packets. I have to say that these last few long runs have felt just like the times that I do have packets with me. I have used both GU and blokshots (?), but neither of them seem to do much for me. I would really like to get an energy boost, but honestly do not feel like these things are worth it. Are there other brands that people have found more helpful, or another energy source for during long runs?
You don't necessarily feel an energy boost with gels; they just keep you from losing energy. IF you aren't taking any nutrition and your not slowing down after 90+ minutes; you need to speed up and work harder (= you are not burning all your fuel). I am a GU fan, mostly bc I like the flavors, and have used it for so long. When I'm working out early in the morning (i.e., 5 am), and know it's going to be a hard workout I'll either take a RedBull or NoXplode to wake up (with these I do feel the energy right away).
I will have to stop and pick something up before my 10 miler tomorrow then. The last few weeks I have been in the 9 mile range and finishing before 90 minutes. That could be the main difference.
 
anyone have the Garmin Forerunner 305? My wife got it for me for my birthday, but at xmas time she got my a Polar HR monitor (no GPS). Wondering if keeping the Garmin is worth it since I have a new Polar HRM. Any thoughts? I don't need both...
I have a 305 and really can't imagine running/riding w/o it. GPS = speed, distance information at all times. Combine this with HR data, and and elevation information and you have a training tool. Knowing HR is nice, but you need the other inputs to know what is going on. My .02.
A question.Last year whenever I would go on runs of 8 miles or more I would take a energy packet with me. I would take the packet around mile 5. I guess I never really felt an energy surge, but figured it was helping some. A few weeks ago I ran out of packets and have not stopped in to a store to grab any more. The last several Saturdays I have gone on 9+ mile runs. No water, no gel packets. I have to say that these last few long runs have felt just like the times that I do have packets with me. I have used both GU and blokshots (?), but neither of them seem to do much for me. I would really like to get an energy boost, but honestly do not feel like these things are worth it. Are there other brands that people have found more helpful, or another energy source for during long runs?
You don't necessarily feel an energy boost with gels; they just keep you from losing energy. IF you aren't taking any nutrition and your not slowing down after 90+ minutes; you need to speed up and work harder (= you are not burning all your fuel). I am a GU fan, mostly bc I like the flavors, and have used it for so long. When I'm working out early in the morning (i.e., 5 am), and know it's going to be a hard workout I'll either take a RedBull or NoXplode to wake up (with these I do feel the energy right away).
I will have to stop and pick something up before my 10 miler tomorrow then. The last few weeks I have been in the 9 mile range and finishing before 90 minutes. That could be the main difference.
Don't wait until 90 minutes to take it, as your reserves will be depleted. Take it at 45 minutes'ish.
 
anyone have the Garmin Forerunner 305? My wife got it for me for my birthday, but at xmas time she got my a Polar HR monitor (no GPS). Wondering if keeping the Garmin is worth it since I have a new Polar HRM. Any thoughts? I don't need both...
I have a 305 and really can't imagine running/riding w/o it. GPS = speed, distance information at all times. Combine this with HR data, and and elevation information and you have a training tool. Knowing HR is nice, but you need the other inputs to know what is going on. My .02.
do you feel the HRM on the Garmin works alright? I have always heard that if you want the best HRM you go Polar and for the best GPS you go Garmin...
 
Hey, 2Young, I was thinking that I should have a backup plan in case it's super hot or something at Chicago. How's the Detroit Marathon? Flat? Fast? Does it sell out? Do I have a place to stay?

 
Hey, 2Young, I was thinking that I should have a backup plan in case it's super hot or something at Chicago. How's the Detroit Marathon? Flat? Fast? Does it sell out? Do I have a place to stay?
Very well run event and is very fast, IMO. In fact, I thought it was top 10 for BQs as of a few years ago, but I didn't see it in Runner's World's list this year. It has two rather different "hills" and that is it. The first is bridge over the Detroit River at about mile 3 in to Canada that is almost a mile total, up and down and the second is the tunnel under the river back in to the US. Last year, the bridge cost me a ton of time because it bottle necked there due to construction in the area and on the bridge that took out a full lane. The year before, I breezed through With your pace and a 15 minute head start for the marathoners over the 1/2'ers it should be a non issue & the construction is almost done from what I understand. The tunnel is between mile 8 & 9 and is a full mile too. I did the tunnel mile sub 8 my 1st year and around 8:20 last year (quick compared to my overall pace). Its a gradual down and up and is easy to get some speed on the down and not a crusher on the way up until the last 100 feet or so. It is hot in there and gets hotter as you get towards the exit, but a huge crowd awaits when you come out and has given me a big surge of energy.You most certainly have a place to stay if needed. I don't think the marathon has sold out the last few years, but the 1/2 has (but it occured only a few weeks out). Weather has been mid to high 40s the last few years and touched 50 late 2 years ago, perfect conditions.

 
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Stuck to my guns and took a rest day yesterday as planned. Went to happy hour instead! :confused:

Got out this morning for a good, solid 12-miler. Averaged 7:49 pace, but the best part is that my two fastest miles were miles 11-12 at 7:33 and 7:36, respectively. There was one really tough 2-mile stretch that was uphill with a 20-mph wind in my face. Was in the low 8's for both of those. Ugh.

Might try to do another 12 tomorrow (the 2nd half of a "divided long run" per the April issue of Runner's World), which would put me over 50 miles for the week.

Have a great weekend, everybody!

 
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Hey, 2Young, I was thinking that I should have a backup plan in case it's super hot or something at Chicago. How's the Detroit Marathon? Flat? Fast? Does it sell out? Do I have a place to stay?
:confused: :P :confused: Do you even think that it's possible I will let you fail in my town? I know the course; I know how to get to various vantage points, especially over the back half. Your failure will not be an option.
 
Plus I run in galloshes, raincoat and umbrella.
Please tell us that you wear something under the raincoat.Meeka: I'd agree that we generally don't need extra fueling during the first 90 minutes - we have enough stored energy to cover that. Beyond that, though, the body seeks additional fuel, and that's where the gels, etc. can help. We can't fully restore the lost energy, which is why the longer events become so challenging, but taking in some calories can help.

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A good morning for me: 70 minute swim (guest pass at the Y), then after an hour break for shower, drive home, and some fuel, I decided to add a 3 mile run. Purposefully kept the first two miles easy, then comfortably pushed the last mile at 7:35.

 
Good day today. Rejoined the Y and got in 800 yds or so. Managed to avoid Mrs. Orca who thought she owned the whole lane. I and one other guy moving quicker than the 2 min/25 yds she was moving at (with flippers and a float noodle, no less) didn't seem to impress upon her the need to at least stay on one side of a lane. So she got quite wet as we splashed on by (she still had her eyeglasses on). Ahhh, the joys of the Y. Felt good to get back into the water, though. Nothing quite like the afterglow of a good swim. My body reminded me real quick of my strength training yesterday (including a decent bit of shoulder and triceps work).

The best part of of the Y, though, was my 3 year old coming into the locker room to get dressed and immediately seeing the Walking Around Naked Guy. He made a comment and then ran out to see his mom and then rang back in. Then, at the top of his lungs - "Daddy, he's still naked! Why does he do that?" :thumbup: God I love 3 year olds.

Got home and managed to get 8 miles of hill climb repeats (4 repeats) before it got dark and the tornadoes started to move in. 1510 total feet of climbing, average grade 14%, average speed 14.5mph. I never dropped into the granny gears and managed to stay at 7mph or above even during the 20+% grade bits. Pretty happy with that. Short and sweet and enough to get the leg muscles screaming.

I'm gonna sleep good tonight.

 
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Good day today. Rejoined the Y and got in 800 yds or so. Managed to avoid Mrs. Orca who thought she owned the whole lane. I and one other guy moving quicker than the 2 min/25 yds she was moving at (with flippers and a float noodle, no less) didn't seem to impress upon her the need to at least stay on one side of a lane. So she got quite wet as we splashed on by (she still had her eyeglasses on). Ahhh, the joys of the Y. Felt good to get back into the water, though. Nothing quite like the afterglow of a good swim. My body reminded me real quick of my strength training yesterday (including a decent bit of shoulder and triceps work).

The best part of of the Y, though, was my 3 year old coming into the locker room to get dressed and immediately seeing the Walking Around Naked Guy. He made a comment and then ran out to see his mom and then rang back in. Then, at the top of his lungs - "Daddy, he's still naked! Why does he do that?" :thumbup: God I love 3 year olds.

Got home and managed to get 8 miles of hill climb repeats (4 repeats) before it got dark and the tornadoes started to move in. 1510 total feet of climbing, average grade 14%, average speed 14.5mph. I never dropped into the granny gears and managed to stay at 7mph or above even during the 20+% grade bits. Pretty happy with that. Short and sweet and enough to get the leg muscles screaming.

I'm gonna sleep good tonight.
:lmao: I dont understand the need for old guys to walk around the locker room naked at the Y.

 
Did my 1st outdoor bike ride of the year and loved it (even with a nasty wind out there today). I stopped by the bike store this morning to pick up some chain oil and also bought an inexpensive Trek wireless CPU. All I wanted was speed and distance. I need some help with this thing. When I stopped, the CPU read 22.9 miles (max speed 26.8 mph, average speed 17.6 mph). BUT, I wanted to be sure the distance was true so I checked it with MapMyRide and it came up with 24.41 miles. When I programed the unit I saw that I could use the generic wheel sizes or program in custom ones. On the list of ones I could program, there is listed 700 x 23, among others. This is also on the wall of my tires, so I programed in the 4 digit code that applied. I'll admit it, I have no clue what 700 x 23 mens, but figured since it matches I'd use it. So, do I trust MapMyRide and if so, how did I screw up bike CPU?

 
Hey Poppa, the same group that puts on the DWD series has added Run Woodstock a weekend of Peace, Love & Running that includes a 100 Mile Race with a 30 hour time limit :confused: along with a 50-miler, 50K, full & 1/2 on the same trails I ran last weekend. ALSO in the mix is a 50 mile team relay. Tri-Man, I have an email out to the 3 other guys that will make up our dirt team for next year's 100K team ultra. If any of them are out, and I think one might be, is there a chance you'd head east for this event in late September?

 
Did my 1st outdoor bike ride of the year and loved it (even with a nasty wind out there today). I stopped by the bike store this morning to pick up some chain oil and also bought an inexpensive Trek wireless CPU. All I wanted was speed and distance. I need some help with this thing. When I stopped, the CPU read 22.9 miles (max speed 26.8 mph, average speed 17.6 mph). BUT, I wanted to be sure the distance was true so I checked it with MapMyRide and it came up with 24.41 miles. When I programed the unit I saw that I could use the generic wheel sizes or program in custom ones. On the list of ones I could program, there is listed 700 x 23, among others. This is also on the wall of my tires, so I programed in the 4 digit code that applied. I'll admit it, I have no clue what 700 x 23 mens, but figured since it matches I'd use it. So, do I trust MapMyRide and if so, how did I screw up bike CPU?
Most likely the canned setting didn't work very well. The way to set those is to get your bike out on the pavement or a hard floor inside. Make sure the tires are inflated properly. Mark the pavement where the bottom tire meets the floor. Roll the bike exactly 1 (or 2) rotations while putting some pressure on the bike to simulate your weight. Measure the before and after to get an exact measurement.You're not going to match exactly with MapMyRide, but it should be somewhat closer than that.
 
Good morning, I just finished a run of only 2.62 miles and it took almost 34 minutes.

I just know you are all asking one thing, how could a l33t runner that once ran 13.1 miles at an 8:55 pace, how could he fall so far, so fast?

I will tell you what happened. The dumb butt stopped running because it was too hot, waaaaaaa.

He started heating to much and to many of the wrong things.

But finally he stopped the bad, bad things and started running( maybe jogging) again. He did it once and he knows how to get it back again.

So this morning this moron goes out and decides to run someplace he has never been before. He takes off down a dirt road and see a sign that says "begin loop 1".

He takes the loop through the woods, then finds out it is a motorbike run that is full of little hills and ruts, he gets in about half a mile and has to walk because the little ruts are killing his legs. The loop twists and turns and soon he gets sick of this so he points himself in the right direction and walks through the woods to the road. Once on the road he jogs easily back to the house.

His fall from l33tness is complete and he has hit rock bottom.

God I am dumb, from now on I am sticking to known roads.

 
Good morning, I just finished a run of only 2.62 miles and it took almost 34 minutes.

I just know you are all asking one thing, how could a l33t runner that once ran 13.1 miles at an 8:55 pace, how could he fall so far, so fast?

I will tell you what happened. The dumb butt stopped running because it was too hot, waaaaaaa.

He started heating to much and to many of the wrong things.

But finally he stopped the bad, bad things and started running( maybe jogging) again. He did it once and he knows how to get it back again.

So this morning this moron goes out and decides to run someplace he has never been before. He takes off down a dirt road and see a sign that says "begin loop 1".

He takes the loop through the woods, then finds out it is a motorbike run that is full of little hills and ruts, he gets in about half a mile and has to walk because the little ruts are killing his legs. The loop twists and turns and soon he gets sick of this so he points himself in the right direction and walks through the woods to the road. Once on the road he jogs easily back to the house.

His fall from l33tness is complete and he has hit rock bottom.

God I am dumb, from now on I am sticking to known roads.
You've got this all wrong. This was the Gods of Dirt Running welcoming you to the trail. They kick your ### and if you survive they'll go easier on you the next time. You are LUCKY to have something like that, that you can hook up with right from home. Do the pavement thing for a while and then try it again. I love dirt running and racing and find the workout a lot more fun and a lot more rewarding. Oh, and, STOP USING THE WORD JOG!!!! You are, and always will be a runner.
 
Sand said:
2Young2BBald said:
Did my 1st outdoor bike ride of the year and loved it (even with a nasty wind out there today). I stopped by the bike store this morning to pick up some chain oil and also bought an inexpensive Trek wireless CPU. All I wanted was speed and distance. I need some help with this thing. When I stopped, the CPU read 22.9 miles (max speed 26.8 mph, average speed 17.6 mph). BUT, I wanted to be sure the distance was true so I checked it with MapMyRide and it came up with 24.41 miles. When I programed the unit I saw that I could use the generic wheel sizes or program in custom ones. On the list of ones I could program, there is listed 700 x 23, among others. This is also on the wall of my tires, so I programed in the 4 digit code that applied. I'll admit it, I have no clue what 700 x 23 mens, but figured since it matches I'd use it. So, do I trust MapMyRide and if so, how did I screw up bike CPU?
Most likely the canned setting didn't work very well. The way to set those is to get your bike out on the pavement or a hard floor inside. Make sure the tires are inflated properly. Mark the pavement where the bottom tire meets the floor. Roll the bike exactly 1 (or 2) rotations while putting some pressure on the bike to simulate your weight. Measure the before and after to get an exact measurement.You're not going to match exactly with MapMyRide, but it should be somewhat closer than that.
Thats the thing, I didn't use the canned settings. I saw a custom setting listed at 700x23 on the list of custom settings that matched what is on my tires. The setting on the CPU had me enter 2096. The info on the tire is: Continental Ultrasport 23-622 (700x23c). I am thinking that it my have been closer than I thought. First, I did three loops of almost a mile on a street with an island cutting to the inside at the turns. I think MapMyRide may have added some distance here going to the outside. It also "blipped" some cuts here and there at turns. I think I'll ride with the Garmin and the CPU and compare.
 
Oh, and, STOP USING THE WORD JOG!!!! You are, and always will be a runner.
"If you ran without sacrifice, congratulations. You just jogged. Running hurts. It always has. Woolly mammoths didn't just roll over onto a plate and serve themselves up to prehistoric man with fries and a shake. They had to be caught - and running down woolly mammoths was a #####. Guess what? Running is still a #####. But one with a purpose. It teaches us that good things do not come easy. It teaches us that we are capable of more than we think. It teaches us that hard work will be rewarded and laziness will be punished. Don't expect to learn those life lessons from running's shiftless stepchild, jogging. Next time you suffer on the roads or trails, suffer proudly. It means you run like an animal." -Dr. George Sheehan
 
Sand said:
Got home and managed to get 8 miles of hill climb repeats (4 repeats) before it got dark and the tornadoes started to move in. 1510 total feet of climbing, average grade 14%, average speed 14.5mph. I never dropped into the granny gears and managed to stay at 7mph or above even during the 20+% grade bits. Pretty happy with that. Short and sweet and enough to get the leg muscles screaming.

I'm gonna sleep good tonight.
Either your numbers or wrong or Lance should be your domestique.I figured your weight at 150 lbs and your bike weight at 20 lbs. You were generating 814 watts to knock out 14% at 14.5 mph.

http://bikecalculator.com/wattsUS.html

Here's how you stack up...http://www.saris.com/aboutus/PTS/HowDoYouStackUpWithWorkout.pdf

*** Quick reality check: another way to express energy on the bike is watts per kilogram. So to do the math for our 315 watt test, the 170 lb rider is putting out 4.0 watts / kg and the 220 lb rider 3.15 watts / kg (note a 27% difference). I checked in with Levi to ask him what his numbers looked like. He estimated that on a long steady training ride he holds about 6 watts / kg and that at race pace it bumps up to 7 watts / kg! So if you’ve ever wondered if a pro cyclist is twice as good as you, the numbers say yes – at least when the road goes upward.

Assuming you weight is 150 you put out 12 watts per kilogram, about double Levi.

 
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Sand said:
Got home and managed to get 8 miles of hill climb repeats (4 repeats) before it got dark and the tornadoes started to move in. 1510 total feet of climbing, average grade 14%, average speed 14.5mph. I never dropped into the granny gears and managed to stay at 7mph or above even during the 20+% grade bits. Pretty happy with that. Short and sweet and enough to get the leg muscles screaming.

I'm gonna sleep good tonight.
Either your numbers or wrong or Lance should be your domestique.I figured your weight at 150 lbs and your bike weight at 20 lbs. You were generating 814 watts to knock out 14% at 14.5 mph.

http://bikecalculator.com/wattsUS.html

Here's how you stack up...http://www.saris.com/aboutus/PTS/HowDoYouStackUpWithWorkout.pdf

*** Quick reality check: another way to express energy on the bike is watts per kilogram. So to do the math for our 315 watt test, the 170 lb rider is putting out 4.0 watts / kg and the 220 lb rider 3.15 watts / kg (note a 27% difference). I checked in with Levi to ask him what his numbers looked like. He estimated that on a long steady training ride he holds about 6 watts / kg and that at race pace it bumps up to 7 watts / kg! So if you’ve ever wondered if a pro cyclist is twice as good as you, the numbers say yes – at least when the road goes upward.

Assuming you weight is 150 you put out 12 watts per kilogram, about double Levi.
Nah - average uphill grade was 14%. There was just as much downhill. Actually the small loop is about 1/3 up, 1/3 flat, and 1/3 down. I was chugging along at 7mph uphill. Total average speed was 14.5 mph. Your calculator says I was pumping ~450watts on the uphill parts (I and the bike weigh more than you estimated). Unrealistic? Dunno. I doubt I could sustain that for more than a few minutes.That is more than I would have expected, frankly. I have a chart and playing with the numbers it puts me in the Cat 5 type level. Sounds about right to me.

 
prosopis said:
Sand said:
Good day today. Rejoined the Y and got in 800 yds or so. Managed to avoid Mrs. Orca who thought she owned the whole lane. I and one other guy moving quicker than the 2 min/25 yds she was moving at (with flippers and a float noodle, no less) didn't seem to impress upon her the need to at least stay on one side of a lane. So she got quite wet as we splashed on by (she still had her eyeglasses on). Ahhh, the joys of the Y. Felt good to get back into the water, though. Nothing quite like the afterglow of a good swim. My body reminded me real quick of my strength training yesterday (including a decent bit of shoulder and triceps work).

The best part of of the Y, though, was my 3 year old coming into the locker room to get dressed and immediately seeing the Walking Around Naked Guy. He made a comment and then ran out to see his mom and then rang back in. Then, at the top of his lungs - "Daddy, he's still naked! Why does he do that?" ;) God I love 3 year olds.

Got home and managed to get 8 miles of hill climb repeats (4 repeats) before it got dark and the tornadoes started to move in. 1510 total feet of climbing, average grade 14%, average speed 14.5mph. I never dropped into the granny gears and managed to stay at 7mph or above even during the 20+% grade bits. Pretty happy with that. Short and sweet and enough to get the leg muscles screaming.

I'm gonna sleep good tonight.
:hophead: I dont understand the need for old guys to walk around the locker room naked at the Y.
The Y is like the Plaza compared to NYC Rec. pools. Seen some SERIOUSLY disturbing things in those parts.
 
Good morning, I just finished a run of only 2.62 miles and it took almost 34 minutes.

I just know you are all asking one thing, how could a l33t runner that once ran 13.1 miles at an 8:55 pace, how could he fall so far, so fast?

I will tell you what happened. The dumb butt stopped running because it was too hot, waaaaaaa.

He started heating to much and to many of the wrong things.

But finally he stopped the bad, bad things and started running( maybe jogging) again. He did it once and he knows how to get it back again.

So this morning this moron goes out and decides to run someplace he has never been before. He takes off down a dirt road and see a sign that says "begin loop 1".

He takes the loop through the woods, then finds out it is a motorbike run that is full of little hills and ruts, he gets in about half a mile and has to walk because the little ruts are killing his legs. The loop twists and turns and soon he gets sick of this so he points himself in the right direction and walks through the woods to the road. Once on the road he jogs easily back to the house.

His fall from l33tness is complete and he has hit rock bottom.

God I am dumb, from now on I am sticking to known roads.
You haven't hit rock bottom until you've seen my enlarged rump there... ;) Seriously Darrin- it's not about the runs you didn't or haven't done- it's what you're doing now... and now [forrest] you are running [/gump] and that's all that matters.

Speaking of... :hophead: .... I did #### all since Wednesday. No speedwork, no easy run, no long run. :rolleyes: ... I'll head out for a long run tomorrow.

 
Oh, and, STOP USING THE WORD JOG!!!! You are, and always will be a runner.
"If you ran without sacrifice, congratulations. You just jogged. Running hurts. It always has. Woolly mammoths didn't just roll over onto a plate and serve themselves up to prehistoric man with fries and a shake. They had to be caught - and running down woolly mammoths was a #####. Guess what? Running is still a #####. But one with a purpose. It teaches us that good things do not come easy. It teaches us that we are capable of more than we think. It teaches us that hard work will be rewarded and laziness will be punished. Don't expect to learn those life lessons from running's shiftless stepchild, jogging. Next time you suffer on the roads or trails, suffer proudly. It means you run like an animal." -Dr. George Sheehan
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I like that quote. Sometimes I think about it while running.

 
Might try to do another 12 tomorrow (the 2nd half of a "divided long run" per the April issue of Runner's World), which would put me over 50 miles for the week.
Done. Did another 12 miles this afternoon at an easy 8:04 pace. It was sunny and warm, and I actually had to stop at a gas station halfway through the run to re-fill my water bottle. But other than that, it was a good run (especially since I only got about 5 hours of sleep last night). Total of 51 miles for the week!
 
Sand - good stuff/funny stuff about the swim and the Y.

2Young - Yeah, I could head that way in late September! After my June triathlon, I've just got two trail races scheduled (10K, 12K) and then a 1/2-marathon with whatever FBGs show up in Chi-town. I've thought about a fall marathon, but I'll wait to see how I'm feeling and running in July/August. So if you need one more for a relay, let me know and I'll put a focus on that.

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Doubled up again today: 8 mile run this morning before church (with 5 good hills and strong final mile push) then 2 hours on the bike this afternoon (indoor while watching sports).

 
Hey Poppa............... a weekend of Peace, Love & Running that includes a 100 Mile Race with a 30 hour time limit :shrug: along with a 50-miler, 50K, full & 1/2 on the same trails I ran last weekend. ALSO in the mix is a 50 mile team relay.
How do ya beat a weekend of peace, love and running? Can't be done!:yes:You know it's gotta be a cool T-shirt!2 weeks after mine...
 
4.5 miles on the treadmill and a few laps in the pool for me today. Bike's been in the shop since Friday getting new brakes and shifters. I miss it already.

 
I know he hasn't posted in a while, and I don't know if any of you check out his blog, but our own Colin Kromke (aka "Rock Lonemilk") completed the first annual LaCrosse Marathon yesterday in a personal-best time of 5:05.

Way to go, Colin!!! :shrug: :confused: :wall:

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ETA: After this weekend's back-to-back 12's, just an easy 4-mile recovery for me this morning.

 
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I know he hasn't posted in a while, and I don't know if any of you check out his blog, but our own Colin Kromke (aka "Rock Lonemilk") completed the first annual LaCrosse Marathon yesterday in a personal-best time of 5:05.

Way to go, Colin!!! :clap: :goodposting: :thumbup:
:hifive: ... :pics: ... :banned: I remember Rock's effort to achieve his first half-marathon two years ago. Now he's triathloning and marathoning ...what a great story! New runners, here's one of your inspirations.

 
anyone have the Garmin Forerunner 305? My wife got it for me for my birthday, but at xmas time she got my a Polar HR monitor (no GPS). Wondering if keeping the Garmin is worth it since I have a new Polar HRM. Any thoughts? I don't need both...
I have a 305 and really can't imagine running/riding w/o it. GPS = speed, distance information at all times. Combine this with HR data, and and elevation information and you have a training tool. Knowing HR is nice, but you need the other inputs to know what is going on. My .02.
do you feel the HRM on the Garmin works alright? I have always heard that if you want the best HRM you go Polar and for the best GPS you go Garmin...
I believe the Garmin is very accurate regarding HR, but don't know for sure. I do know that the data is extremely useful when combined with speed, distance and elevation (which your Polar can't do).
I know he hasn't posted in a while, and I don't know if any of you check out his blog, but our own Colin Kromke (aka "Rock Lonemilk") completed the first annual LaCrosse Marathon yesterday in a personal-best time of 5:05.

Way to go, Colin!!! :clap: :headbang: :pickle:

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ETA: After this weekend's back-to-back 12's, just an easy 4-mile recovery for me this morning.
AWESOME, AWESOME to hear!! I've run their OktoberFest Half marathon quite a few time, and it's a great, flat course. It looks like their new Full, includes much of their half's course = :jealous: _____________________

My Update:

I'm still not running, doing very little biking, and very little swimming. This whole moving thing has certainly taken a toll on my work-out life. Unpacking, building furniture, hanging pictures, etc. has consumed way too much of my life over the past 3 weeks. The biggest hurdle has been driving my girls to school in the morning. We have to leave at 7am to get both of my girls to school on time. I normally workout prior to heading to work, and haven't had the motivation to get up at 5:00 to get it in. I did mow (with a push mower) our 1.25 acres yesterday, then worked on my swimming form at our 15 yard pool for awhile. My girls have just 2 weeks of school left = I'll do my best to maintain and then get back at it. I know, I know...I need to HTFU.

 
I know he hasn't posted in a while, and I don't know if any of you check out his blog, but our own Colin Kromke (aka "Rock Lonemilk") completed the first annual LaCrosse Marathon yesterday in a personal-best time of 5:05.

Way to go, Colin!!! :clap: :headbang: :pickle:

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ETA: After this weekend's back-to-back 12's, just an easy 4-mile recovery for me this morning.
He needs to get back in here, if for nothing else to comment on the Bottechia Ebay special bike that he has in his workout room.
 
The biggest hurdle has been driving my girls to school in the morning. We have to leave at 7am to get both of my girls to school on time. I normally workout prior to heading to work, and haven't had the motivation to get up at 5:00 to get it in. I did mow (with a push mower) our 1.25 acres yesterday, then worked on my swimming form at our 15 yard pool for awhile. My girls have just 2 weeks of school left = I'll do my best to maintain and then get back at it. I know, I know...I need to HTFU.
I've gotta admit. It's this exact type of thing that makes me totally reluctant to wanna have kids.By the way, I forgot to say that I still love Colin's doing the whole anagram thing with his user name. Maybe I should start going by "Great Dutch." GB the Internet Anagram Server.

 
The biggest hurdle has been driving my girls to school in the morning. We have to leave at 7am to get both of my girls to school on time. I normally workout prior to heading to work, and haven't had the motivation to get up at 5:00 to get it in. I did mow (with a push mower) our 1.25 acres yesterday, then worked on my swimming form at our 15 yard pool for awhile. My girls have just 2 weeks of school left = I'll do my best to maintain and then get back at it. I know, I know...I need to HTFU.
I've gotta admit. It's this exact type of thing that makes me totally reluctant to wanna have kids.By the way, I forgot to say that I still love Colin's doing the whole anagram thing with his user name. Maybe I should start going by "Great Dutch." GB the Internet Anagram Server.
Whatever possible joy you can get from running cannot possibly compare to hearing the words "Daddy" from your little boy or girl. Running alone is nice; but running with your 7 year old, or watching your 3 year old's first triathlon is euphoric and I'd much rather miss a few runs than miss hearing the stories/things my daughters tell me on our new drive to school. The only reason the drive is so long, as that we moved from well outside their former school districts, but kept them in their schools for the rest of the semester. Next year this will not be an issue at all, as their schools will be right on my way to work (and the 7 year old will take the bus!).
 
By the way, I forgot to say that I still love Colin's doing the whole anagram thing with his user name. Maybe I should start going by "Great Dutch." GB the Internet Anagram Server.
My real name returns 1217 Anagrams :confused: A few that stood out include:

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Acme Jerk Spit

Race Jet Skimp

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Camp Skier Jet

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Teams Pic Jerk

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Pigskinliquors = 675:

Liquoring Skips

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King Liquor Piss

Girls Oink Quips

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Whatever possible joy you can get from running cannot possibly compare to hearing the words "Daddy" from your little boy or girl. Running alone is nice; but running with your 7 year old, or watching your 3 year old's first triathlon is euphoric and I'd much rather miss a few runs than miss hearing the stories/things my daughters tell me on our new drive to school. The only reason the drive is so long, as that we moved from well outside their former school districts, but kept them in their schools for the rest of the semester. Next year this will not be an issue at all, as their schools will be right on my way to work (and the 7 year old will take the bus!).
I don't doubt what you're saying, but I guess I'm just not there yet. Still too many things I want to do for me. I'm only 32, so maybe somewhere down the road. :thumbup:
 
gruecd said:
pigskinliquors said:
Whatever possible joy you can get from running cannot possibly compare to hearing the words "Daddy" from your little boy or girl. Running alone is nice; but running with your 7 year old, or watching your 3 year old's first triathlon is euphoric and I'd much rather miss a few runs than miss hearing the stories/things my daughters tell me on our new drive to school. The only reason the drive is so long, as that we moved from well outside their former school districts, but kept them in their schools for the rest of the semester. Next year this will not be an issue at all, as their schools will be right on my way to work (and the 7 year old will take the bus!).
I don't doubt what you're saying, but I guess I'm just not there yet. Still too many things I want to do for me. I'm only 32, so maybe somewhere down the road. :shrug:
I waited until I was 35, and married 8 years (we were too selfish prior to then) = you've got plenty of time :thumbup:
 
gruecd said:
pigskinliquors said:
Whatever possible joy you can get from running cannot possibly compare to hearing the words "Daddy" from your little boy or girl. Running alone is nice; but running with your 7 year old, or watching your 3 year old's first triathlon is euphoric and I'd much rather miss a few runs than miss hearing the stories/things my daughters tell me on our new drive to school. The only reason the drive is so long, as that we moved from well outside their former school districts, but kept them in their schools for the rest of the semester. Next year this will not be an issue at all, as their schools will be right on my way to work (and the 7 year old will take the bus!).
I don't doubt what you're saying, but I guess I'm just not there yet. Still too many things I want to do for me. I'm only 32, so maybe somewhere down the road. :popcorn:
I waited until I was 35, and married 8 years (we were too selfish prior to then) = you've got plenty of time :goodposting:
38 when floppo jr came.FWIW- this kid thing is harder physically the longer you wait (emotionally probably easier).

 
gruecd said:
pigskinliquors said:
Whatever possible joy you can get from running cannot possibly compare to hearing the words "Daddy" from your little boy or girl. Running alone is nice; but running with your 7 year old, or watching your 3 year old's first triathlon is euphoric and I'd much rather miss a few runs than miss hearing the stories/things my daughters tell me on our new drive to school. The only reason the drive is so long, as that we moved from well outside their former school districts, but kept them in their schools for the rest of the semester. Next year this will not be an issue at all, as their schools will be right on my way to work (and the 7 year old will take the bus!).
I don't doubt what you're saying, but I guess I'm just not there yet. Still too many things I want to do for me. I'm only 32, so maybe somewhere down the road. :thumbup:
You have plenty of time. I am also 32 and have 3 boys. (5,3,1) It can be a little tough finding time to run. I usually go and run after I put the kids to bed. If it is too late to run outside I will run at the gym on the treadmill. There is time, it is just not always the time I want to run. It will all be worth it to be able to run races with my kids. My wife and I are running a half marathon at the end of the month, and the friends we are running with are talking about running a full (Grandma's in Duluth, MN) next June. I think that just may happen for me as well. I would love to run a half as a family a dozen years from now.***Thanks for all the comments about the energy gels. I usually take a gel every 5 miles. I will not look for an energy spike, but just a lack of crash.***
 
OK, kinda excited about this. I think I'm going to sign up with a couple of buddies to do a Half Ironman Relay at the High Cliff Triathlon in late July. I've gone one friend who's a hell of a good cyclist, and supposedly a friend of a friend swam collegiately at Notre Dame. Looking at last year's times, I think we can win this thing!
Looks like this thing is coming together. Notre Dame guy didn't come through, but I got a commitment last night from a guy who swam 28:30 at last year's Spirit of Racine Half Ironman. :cry: I honestly think that we can win this thing. Last year's winning team finished in 4:21:07, more than 23 minutes ahead of the 2nd-place team. Their swim was 28:42, bike was 2:14:11, and run was 1:37:05. I'm thinking we'll be right around the same times, so assuming they come to defend their title, it should be interesting! :nerd:

 
OK, kinda excited about this. I think I'm going to sign up with a couple of buddies to do a Half Ironman Relay at the High Cliff Triathlon in late July. I've gone one friend who's a hell of a good cyclist, and supposedly a friend of a friend swam collegiately at Notre Dame. Looking at last year's times, I think we can win this thing!
Looks like this thing is coming together. Notre Dame guy didn't come through, but I got a commitment last night from a guy who swam 28:30 at last year's Spirit of Racine Half Ironman. :thumbup: I honestly think that we can win this thing. Last year's winning team finished in 4:21:07, more than 23 minutes ahead of the 2nd-place team. Their swim was 28:42, bike was 2:14:11, and run was 1:37:05. I'm thinking we'll be right around the same times, so assuming they come to defend their title, it should be interesting! :confused:
4:21:07 is pretty fast! Anything under 4:00 (individually) is Word class. 2:14 on the bike is averaging 25.0 MPH (doable, but fast); swimming in 28:42 is approximately 1:30 pace (doable, but fast), and running a 1:37:05 is 7:27'ish (= you have the easiest job of the bunch; but still have to get out!!!). Looking at Boise 70.3 results:The swim: 28:42 would have been the 14th best time (toughest to compete against in relay vs. ind. = everyone is fresh)

The bike: 2:14:11 would be 10th fastest (damn fast for that distance, but they will have fresher legs)

The run: 1:37:05 would be 125th fastest run (those 125 did that after a long swim and bike ride!)

This suggests that your task is by far the easiest. You need to pull a 1:20'ish to pull your weight on this one! Are you sure they other two want to carry you on their shoulders for this one (says the guy whose fastest half marathon is 1:39!).

edited to add a link to the Boise 70.3 results. Bozzone going 3:53 is pretty insane! Not as insane as 3:40 at last year's World's though! :excited:

 
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I have less than two weeks until my first 1/2! Unfortunately, on Thursday I came down with a sore throat/stuffy nose...basically a drain on my system. So I rested all weekend...trying to get rid of this cold. I can't seem to shake it and it's still lingering today. The problem is that I wanted to do my last long run today...then begin my taper. I'm going to take the rest of the day off of work...and this afternoon attempt my run. Wish me luck!!!

 
I have less than two weeks until my first 1/2! Unfortunately, on Thursday I came down with a sore throat/stuffy nose...basically a drain on my system. So I rested all weekend...trying to get rid of this cold. I can't seem to shake it and it's still lingering today. The problem is that I wanted to do my last long run today...then begin my taper. I'm going to take the rest of the day off of work...and this afternoon attempt my run. Wish me luck!!!
Good luck! Just remember that you should be done gaining speed at this point; this run is just a final boost of your endurance = if necessary take it slow and ez.
 
gruecd said:
pigskinliquors said:
The biggest hurdle has been driving my girls to school in the morning. We have to leave at 7am to get both of my girls to school on time. I normally workout prior to heading to work, and haven't had the motivation to get up at 5:00 to get it in. I did mow (with a push mower) our 1.25 acres yesterday, then worked on my swimming form at our 15 yard pool for awhile. My girls have just 2 weeks of school left = I'll do my best to maintain and then get back at it. I know, I know...I need to HTFU.
I've gotta admit. It's this exact type of thing that makes me totally reluctant to wanna have kids.By the way, I forgot to say that I still love Colin's doing the whole anagram thing with his user name. Maybe I should start going by "Great Dutch." GB the Internet Anagram Server.
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