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Ran a 10k in June (13 Viewers)

Went out for a lunchtime trail run, wanted to do at least 6 miles. Felt pretty good, there were no big climbs so I was keeping a decent pace. Turned around at 3.5 miles and headed back to finish 7. At about mile 5, a #######g yellow jacket flew right into my mouth! Stung me on the lip, I think I bit it in half and spit it out, not really sure as it happened so fast. Luckily I reached up and was able to pull the bee's hind-parts and stinger from my lip without being able to see it, and I took a short cut to get back to my car in 6 instead of 7 as I was a little worried about the reaction (allergies in my family). Let's just say that final mile was my speed work for the day, because I was moving to get back to the car!

Got to the car, popped a couple benadryls, and then went to put ice on it. But dang if it doesn't still hurt like a mother. I'm supposed to go to a work networking event tonight, and while I usually try not to rely on physcial deformity, in this case I guess I have my icebreaker for the evening.

 
Happy Friday, everybody. This back/piriformis thing is "runnable," but it's really starting to annoy me. I have to take a couple of minutes to stretch it out everytime I get up from my chair, or else I get this shooting pain. Pisses me off. Anyway, did a relatively easy 10 last night at 7:45 pace. My body kept on wanting to go faster, so I had to make a conscious effort to slow down. Did a 4-mile recovery run this morning, and I plan on doing another 5-mile recovery run tonight before watching the Packers whoop the Cards!

I've got 17 scheduled for tomorrow, but I'm signed up for a local half, so I'm going to do a 4-mile warmup beforehand, then run the 1st eight miles of the race at MP, and then try to pick it up gradually over the last five miles to finish around 10K pace. It's supposed to be unseasonably cool tomorrow morning (low 50's), so that should help. All assuming the back holds up, of course.

 
Duck: That looks like it really hurts. During yesterday's run I had a small bug fly into my eye....it was only a minor inconvenience...nothing like getting stung in the mouth!

Speaking of yesterday's run: It was a 6 mile tempo with a mile warm up and a mile cool down (so 8 total miles). I was kind of unmotivated and my legs felt heavy but I really wanted to get this run in. What I learned on this run is that I run at a pretty consistent pace. I don't have a Garmin or anything so I have to go off of "feel". For example, my warm up and cool down miles were 9:13 and 9:14 respectively. I ran my first 3 miles in 22:20...and my last 3 miles in 22:12. So I'm happy that I can maintain a consistent pace.

One more thought: I'm a part-time bartender. Two nights a week. Been doing it forever (10+ years). After an 8+ hour shift my feet USED to be sore for a day or two. Since I started running 9 months ago there is no more soreness from bartending! :shrug:

 
Went out for a lunchtime trail run, wanted to do at least 6 miles. Felt pretty good, there were no big climbs so I was keeping a decent pace. Turned around at 3.5 miles and headed back to finish 7. At about mile 5, a #######g yellow jacket flew right into my mouth! Stung me on the lip, I think I bit it in half and spit it out, not really sure as it happened so fast. Luckily I reached up and was able to pull the bee's hind-parts and stinger from my lip without being able to see it, and I took a short cut to get back to my car in 6 instead of 7 as I was a little worried about the reaction (allergies in my family). Let's just say that final mile was my speed work for the day, because I was moving to get back to the car!

Got to the car, popped a couple benadryls, and then went to put ice on it. But dang if it doesn't still hurt like a mother. I'm supposed to go to a work networking event tonight, and while I usually try not to rely on physcial deformity, in this case I guess I have my icebreaker for the evening.
Duck: I can certainly relate. Two years ago I posted this this thread about a near death experience I had with a ####### yellow jacket. ________________

My update:

I'm hydrating and resting for tomorrow's ride with Culdeus. While I've only had four non-commuter rides my commute (twice a week) is 11 miles both ways and that has helped me maintain some level of bike fitness. I have also been running quite a bit more than I did last year = I've got a shot at this! I'm really confident in the first 85 (as I've done a 50 mile solo), but have no clue how my body will respond after 4 hours. Last year I watched Culdeus will himself to the finish line during that stretch, and I'm hoping/anticipating I can do the same this year. We'll know tomorrow!

edited to add: The weather for tomorrow looks AWESOME! 69 degrees and sunny at 8:00 (I have not experienced weather in the 60's in a very long time) with winds 6 mph from the NNE; temps only at 85 degrees :lmao: at noon (when I'd better be drinking beers with Culdeus!) with winds 9 mph from the NE. Giddy'up!!! This certainly isn't going to be "Hotter than Hell." Hotter than Michigan maybe, but not hell :(

 
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edited to add: The weather for tomorrow looks AWESOME! 69 degrees and sunny at 8:00 (I have not experienced weather in the 60's in a very long time) with winds 6 mph from the NNE; temps only at 85 degrees :shock: at noon (when I'd better be drinking beers with Culdeus!) with winds 9 mph from the NE. Giddy'up!!! This certainly isn't going to be "Hotter than Hell." Hotter than Michigan maybe, but not hell :rolleyes:
Good luck guys. Now that Obama has solved global warming this ride's reputation is going to take a serious hit.
 
Finished my leg/back workout yesterday and still had some energy left so I decided to do a timed 2 miler on the track at my gym. 12:44. Not as fast I was running in late spring, but having focused more or strength conditioning and less on running lately and just finished an hour long workout I'm fine with that.

 
I ran 16 miles this morning. So glad to have that behind me.

I went out on Wednesday night to try to run 18 with a buddy of mine. We have a duathalon on Sunday so we wanted to get our long run done during the week. It was horrible for me. I crapped out at 9 miles and had a 2+ walk back to his house. Needless to say I was majorly annoyed by the whole thing. I have no idea what happened. My legs felt like crap from the very beginning and by mile 7 my breathing was starting to labor a bit. I have had ZERO cardio problems during this training. My legs get tired on long runs, but I am never short of breath and my heart rate usually does not get too high. Wednesday night there was some of both. So I had to send my buddy for the last 9 miles to finish by himself.

It was a case where I thought that if I continued it would have done way more harm than good. Like I have said many times, I know I will be undertrained to some extent I just need to keep myself from being injured. It was a major relief to have a nice effort this morning with my 16 miles.

Rest day tomorrow and the Minneapolis Duathalon on Sunday.

 
I ran 16 miles this morning. So glad to have that behind me. I went out on Wednesday night to try to run 18 with a buddy of mine. We have a duathalon on Sunday so we wanted to get our long run done during the week. It was horrible for me. I crapped out at 9 miles and had a 2+ walk back to his house. Needless to say I was majorly annoyed by the whole thing. I have no idea what happened. My legs felt like crap from the very beginning and by mile 7 my breathing was starting to labor a bit. I have had ZERO cardio problems during this training. My legs get tired on long runs, but I am never short of breath and my heart rate usually does not get too high. Wednesday night there was some of both. So I had to send my buddy for the last 9 miles to finish by himself. It was a case where I thought that if I continued it would have done way more harm than good. Like I have said many times, I know I will be undertrained to some extent I just need to keep myself from being injured. It was a major relief to have a nice effort this morning with my 16 miles. Rest day tomorrow and the Minneapolis Duathalon on Sunday.
Way to HTFU Meeka! Some days are just not meant to be. Great to hear that you still got a long one in. :thumbup:
 
I ran 16 miles this morning. So glad to have that behind me. I went out on Wednesday night to try to run 18 with a buddy of mine. We have a duathalon on Sunday so we wanted to get our long run done during the week. It was horrible for me. I crapped out at 9 miles and had a 2+ walk back to his house. Needless to say I was majorly annoyed by the whole thing. I have no idea what happened. My legs felt like crap from the very beginning and by mile 7 my breathing was starting to labor a bit. I have had ZERO cardio problems during this training. My legs get tired on long runs, but I am never short of breath and my heart rate usually does not get too high. Wednesday night there was some of both. So I had to send my buddy for the last 9 miles to finish by himself. It was a case where I thought that if I continued it would have done way more harm than good. Like I have said many times, I know I will be undertrained to some extent I just need to keep myself from being injured. It was a major relief to have a nice effort this morning with my 16 miles. Rest day tomorrow and the Minneapolis Duathalon on Sunday.
Based on what you've wrote, it would appear that you need to figure out a pre-run (race) meal plan the day before and the day of that gives you more to burn. Did you drop weight when you were sick? If so, I'd guess your body is looking for more fuel and is not finding it. Your breathing and HR are fine, so you know you are in race shape. Since you have time before your marathon, I'd try some "overfueling" for your next long run. Take what you normally do and up it a bit to see if this fixes things. Dabble with a few high carb foods and maybe some more water. I have had problems with thinking I have to eat less to keep my weight down and then find I have nothing in the tank (which included bonking in my first and only marathon in which a runner friend let me know I suffered from a "classic depleation of my glycogen stores"). ETA, Good luck with the Du!!!
 
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Hey, guys. Had my half this morning, and I'm very pleased with the results. Decided against "racing" it, since (a) I just did the Ragnar Relay last weekend, (b) my back/piriformis muscles still hurt from the relay, © I just did my first-ever 70-mile week last week, and (d) I'm working on a 60-mile week this week.

My training schedule called for 17 miles today, so I went out before the race and did a 4-mile warmup. Going into the race, my plan was to run the first 8-9 miles at MP (7:15) or a little faster, and then try to pick it up towards the end. The course is basically a big square. We go south, then east, then north, then west, and of course the wind was 15+ MPH out of the WNW. Go figure. Averaged 7:01's for the first nine miles, and while it was super tough on the last 4+ miles heading back into the wind, still managed to average 6:54's the rest of the way. Final time was 1:32:01, so my overall average was right at 7:00/mile.

All-in-all, gotta say that I'm feeling pretty damn good at six weeks out from Chicago. And the back feels a little better today, too, so hopefully in a few more days that'll be back at 100%. Everything is coming together nicely.

 
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Any of you guys see Ritz set the American 5K record yesterday in Zurich? Go to this link and fast forward to the 2:05 mark. Effin' awesome race by Ritz!!! He ran 12:56.27, which was a PR by a whopping 19 seconds and the third-best all-time 5K by a non-African. :IBTL:

P.S. Pole vaulters are hot. :excited:

 
WHAT A DAY!!!!!

Drove up to Ashland, OR, last night, a college buddy is getting married here tonight so the whole crew is in town. Headed straight to the bar at 9:00, and proceeded to "carbo load" with Tangueray, Bud, and PBR until last call. Finally managed to overcome the spins and fall asleep at about 3:00 AM, knowing I had a run planned for this morning.

Woke up at 7:00, got some coffee and breakfast to try and shake the brutal hangover, and then drove up to Mt. Ashland. I wanted to get some altitude running in as my ultra is at 6500', Mt. Ashland is the same. There is an ultra up there every year, SOB, so I had a route planned out for me. After about a mile on fire roads, you hit the Pacific Crest Trail, and off I went on just epic singletrack. Planned on doing 12, thought I might have to cut it to 10 due to my less-than-ideal morning-after physical condition, but after about an hour I started feeling good. The altitude was noticeable, especially on the uphills, HR was definitely 5-10 bpm higher than it would be at that effort down at sea level, but it wasn't too bad. At mile 5, I kept going as I was crushing a downhill. Kept cruising through mile 6, 7, and turned around at 7 1/2 and climbed back up the hill I had so enjoyed coming down - not quite as fun climbing back up 1000' over a couple miles. Didn't see a single person for the first 2 1/2 hours, just amazing being out there like that, by myself, no ipod, just me and the trail. Got back to the car with probably my favorite run of all time, 15 miles on the PCT under my belt. I've never felt better after a run than I did driving back into town, amazing considering the state I was in when I began.

Then, to top it off, I went to Rogue Valley Runners, the store that Hal Koerner owns here in Ashland. If you don't know who he is, he's the two-time defending champ in the Western States 100, one of the top 2-3 ultrarunners in the country, and obviously one of my idols. He is fresh of the Transrockies Run, a 6 day, 113 mile event that tops out at 12,500 feet. I got a chance to chat with him for a couple minutes, and left (with some new gear, of course) feeling giddy as a schoolgirl. I feel like going out for a run again right now I'm so fired up, but alas, it's time to put the drinking shoes back on and head off to the wedding.

 
Nobody ever believes me, but I always say that there's nothing quite like running to get rid of a hangover. Nice work, Duck. :popcorn:

P.S. Drink Sapphire next time. Tanqueray sucks.

 
Where the hell is everybody?? :confused:

Just an easy 5-mile recovery run for me today, putting me at 60 miles for the week after hitting 70 last week and 61 a couple of weeks before that. After tomorrow's 8-miler, I'll be at 260 miles for the month (a big monthly mileage PR for me) and 1,264 miles for the year. I didn't think I'd have a chance to hit 2,000 miles for the year, but I did some quick math, and as long as I can average 46 MPW for the rest of the year, I should be able to get there. Pretty cool.

 
Incredible story, SFDuck, and great running gruecd!

I had a very good weekend. 12 miles on Saturday, featuring a 10 mile tempo run (just under marathon pace). Then I did a 20 mile run today (about one minute/mile slower than yesterday). The 20 miler felt fine ...breathing was easy, pace was relaxed, could have kept going - but was on the road at 5:50 am to get the run in before church. This capped off my top mileage week ever ...55 miles. For having quickly geared up the marathon training, I'm feeling great.

liquors; culdeus - :eek:

 
Ok :shrug:

I feel much better today. I have not been to the gym in 2 weeks now. I have truly been sick with sore throat,fever etc.......... but now I feel better. I am going to hit the gym tomorrow. I was just depressed before I got sick. I have been oficially sick for 1 week. I have no real good excuse for the week prior. Anyway I am hitting it again tomorrow. Time to shut up and HTFU.

 
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liquors; culdeus - :popcorn:

I'll give a full-report tomorrow, but HH100 was a success. I met Culdeus at the Exhibit Hall, and had a beer while I waited for him to pick up his packet (he was there about 20 minutes later than I). We then had directions to a place that a friend of his had arranged for us to stay, less than 4 miles from the start line. I followed Culdeus and his friend as he had a GPS unit in his car. After he tried to kill me no less than 5 times by taking right turns from the left lane, going through red lights, etc. (great fun!!), we stopped at the end of a street with no street lights, and some pretty shady homes. We all three wondered the neighborhood looking for the house and quickly realized we were not in the right neighborhood. His friend typed in the wrong street = we went on another adventure. He only tried to kill me twice during this drive, and we pulled up to a house in a nice neighborhood. An older, very Russian man met us at the door (surprised us all), and told us we had the run of the house (Culdeus will have to tell you who he was, as I'm still confused). He had a Playboy on the counter, and showed us where his Vodka and other liquor was and told us to have at it (at least that's what I think he said, as his Russian accent was pretty strong). Culdeus (as usual) brought a full smorgaborg (sp?) including tamales, pasta, chips, salsa, and vegetables; and we had a great dinner and some beers. I got to bed around 10:45, but was awoken multiple times over the next 2 hours, as some of my friends were having a party and they kept calling/texting me updates on what was happening. I finally got to sleep by midnight, and my alarm went off at 5 am. Surprisingly Culdeus and his friend were already awake and virtually ready to go, and I got ready as fast as I could. We left the house around 5:30 and were parked within 15 minutes. Culdeus had major break pad issues from his bike being stuffed inside his car, to his friend and I rode to the starting line to secure our spots, while he went to a bike shop (on site) to get his bike fixed. My bowels did what they were supposed to do, and I was able to relieve myself by 6:30. Culdeus met us at the start line shortly after, and we waited patiently for the 7:00 am flyover/national anthem. The weather was IMMACULATE, as the winds were low, and the temps at 68 degrees (I had not felt sub-70's since early June)!!!!

A cannon blasted the start, which sucked even more than most races (not surprising with 15,000+ riders). We literally had to walk with our bikes even well-past the starting line. With my first mile being the slowest of the day; Culdeus led us out really well for the first 4 miles. A pace line flew past us at that point and I told Culdeus I was going to catch it. I led him to the group, but we lost his friend. They were flying, and Culdeus suggested we drop them, as the pace was too quick, and he was worried about his friend. I thought he was still on my wheel, but realized a good mile later that he was gone :goodposting: I stayed with the group through mile 42 where they stopped at the rest stop. I was like "are you kidding me" and literally ventured on alone from mile 42 to 47, averaging approx. 20.5 mph (solo); at mile 48, the same group caught up with me, and I leeched onto them (yippee!). We stayed together as a large, strong pace group, though there were large struggles at each rest stop (miles 54, 59, 69, & 78). I was still feeling great, and decided that I really wanted to see if I could finish the century w/o stopping (I'd never done it before). At each stop, I worked my ### off to stay at or near the front, so that I wouldn't be caught chasing down a large group by myself. Right after the 78 mile rest stop, things got ugly fast. We were a smaller (but still pretty large) group, and about half of the group, really wanted to get the pace going. At least 4 times between mile 78 and 89 I had to go solo to catch up with breakaways from the larger group. In each instance, my HR went over 180, and my body really struggled. I was most proud of a solo effort at mile 82, where I spent a mile+ hunting down the lead group all by myself. I did this mile in 2:32, and my HR hovered around 185 for quite awhile (red lining). I caught them, but burned too many matches. I stayed with the group through mile 87, but lost them for good around a turn in which I was at the back of the pack, and only myself and one other guy tried (unsuccessfully) to bridge the gap. I chased for about a half mile with him when he fell off my back wheel. I thought that catching them was my only chance of reaching my goal (4:30). I didn't have it in me to catch the group so slowed down and went into survival mode. I started cramping (not bad) at mile 89. I was all alone, and hurting, and really questioned what I had to get in, and just wanted to beat last year's time of 4:45. Luckily at mile 97 the calvary caught up with me (8 hard miles with no assistance). the group that had splintered off at mile 78 had caught me!!!!!!!!!!! I cruised with them as long as I could, still cramping and fell off their back at mile 100, and limped my way in the best that I could.

My final number (my watch = not official) were 101.68 miles in 4:31:33; avg. pace 2:40 per mile (NO STOPS!!!!!!); ave. speed (22.5); max speed 34.7 mph; avg HR 165 :thumbup: ; max HR 190 :shock: (scary high = during that last chase to catch the group in which I failed). Had I had any support to catch the group at mile 89 or had I actually trained for the ride; I know I could have finished sub 4:30; though I'm still ecstatic with the results (I finished the century under 4:27!)

I'll post Garmin stats tomorrow, but was extremely pleased with the time and the day. The only sad part was that I didn't get to spend it with Culdeus. He had a nice ride; and ended somewhere around 5:10 (my best guess); but not up to what he had hoped (waiting for his friends really slowed him down).

 
gruecd said:
Where the hell is everybody?? :tumbleweed:
Here reading and not reporting because I didn't run 110 miles per day like everyone else is. :unsure: Seriously, Saturday I got up early and grabbed my MTB to help with a local race. It was a 5k run on half road, half trail. We paced the riders and cleared the trail, etc. Ended up riding 12 miles at a reasonably leisurely pace. The winner of the race finished in 19:45.I then did my FF draft for the year (the auto rate my team thing put me at the top of the league, for the 1/4 shekel that is worth).After that I went for a 4 mile run, which is now a "middle distance" for me in my training progression. I went 7:57, 8:00, 8:15, and 8:20 for about an 8:09 average or so. I consider that progress and am quite pleased that I am holding pace for a longer time. At this point with another tri coming up soon I want to try and train at 4 miles or so at a good pace to be able to do the tri 3 miles at a good pace before I tail off. I was definitely tired after I was done, though.Today was an off day (and am sick).This leads me to a question for you runner dudes. When I run I sweat like a dog. Like lose 3-4 lbs for a decent run. After I am done everything is soaked - shirt down to socks. I love/hate cotton shirts - hate 'em because they are completely drenched 2 miles in and love 'em because I can wipe the sweat out of my eyes with the sleeves. Any good alternatives?
 
I'll post Garmin stats tomorrow, but was extremely pleased with the time and the day. The only sad part was that I didn't get to spend it with Culdeus. He had a nice ride; and ended somewhere around 5:10 (my best guess); but not up to what he had hoped (waiting for his friends really slowed him down).
Sounds awesome. Post the file (.tcx, .gpx, etc.) - it'll be interesting to see the course.
 
gruecd said:
Where the hell is everybody?? :jawdrop:
Here reading and not reporting because I didn't run 110 miles per day like everyone else is. :lmao: Seriously, Saturday I got up early and grabbed my MTB to help with a local race. It was a 5k run on half road, half trail. We paced the riders and cleared the trail, etc. Ended up riding 12 miles at a reasonably leisurely pace. The winner of the race finished in 19:45.I then did my FF draft for the year (the auto rate my team thing put me at the top of the league, for the 1/4 shekel that is worth).After that I went for a 4 mile run, which is now a "middle distance" for me in my training progression. I went 7:57, 8:00, 8:15, and 8:20 for about an 8:09 average or so. I consider that progress and am quite pleased that I am holding pace for a longer time. At this point with another tri coming up soon I want to try and train at 4 miles or so at a good pace to be able to do the tri 3 miles at a good pace before I tail off. I was definitely tired after I was done, though.Today was an off day (and am sick).This leads me to a question for you runner dudes. When I run I sweat like a dog. Like lose 3-4 lbs for a decent run. After I am done everything is soaked - shirt down to socks. I love/hate cotton shirts - hate 'em because they are completely drenched 2 miles in and love 'em because I can wipe the sweat out of my eyes with the sleeves. Any good alternatives?
Simply put, cotton kills. Synthetic is the way to go. I have a Zoot tri top that I use for tris and have a North Face multi-sport short sleeve that is my other go to for road races. I can't wait for the cooler weather as I have a couple of Brooks long sleeves that do a great job of wicking away the moisture.
 
Inspired by wraith's sub-7, I set out on my 3 mile run this a.m. with a goal of seeing how fast I could run a mile. Did my first mile at 8:40 to get warmed up, then went for it and did a 7:06. Felt surprisingly good after that and ran my last mile in 8:07. My next run is 4 miles on Saturday -- which I haven't done at better than an 8:19 pace yet. But I'm going to try to do it 32 minutes flat this time.

I have found this week that running 4 days per week instead of 5 has made a big difference in my legs. Of course, now I'm feeling so good that next week I'm going to try to go back to 5 days -- guess that will be the test case as to what the right level is for me.
30:44 -- whoo-hoo!Starting to run a warm-up a couple of weeks ago has made a huge difference for me. Prior to that, I was running terrible times in my first half-miles as my legs slowly came to life. Now, I feel strong from the outset. Went 7:45, 7:15 (downhill mile and I slowed some at the end to save energy), 8:05 (just grinded it back up the uphill mile that followed my halfway turnaround point). At this point, I knew I had 32 in the bag and was even thinking sub-31. But the first quarter of my last mile was really slow -- got so mad at myself for slowing down, opened a big can of HTFU, and ran the last 3/4 at 7:20 pace.

Yesterday was what counts for me as a "long run" - 6 miles. Took gruecd's advice and just took this super slow. My legs, which felt so great Saturday, were now totally shot, especially on the downhills. They finally started feeling better for the last couple of miles and I finished at about a 9:20 pace, though I wasn't really keeping track of time. Just wanted to stretch my legs and get the miles in.

Less than 3 weeks to my first race now. On the fence as to whether I'm going to go back to running 5 days this week (like my sked calls for) or stick to 4, since the 5 days per week were sapping my legs. I think I'm going to try 5 one more time, and if it wipes me out again, I'll still have a 4-day week to get my legs back, followed by the tapering week before my race.

 
liquors - 22.5 mph for 100 miles (+)?!? :lmao: Holy crumb, that's still beyond my imagination. I'm in envy and awe of you biker guys.

Sand, I agree with 2Young about foregoing the cotton. What you could do is the Poppa trick of carrying a bandana (or as I've done, a very small washcloth) which you can drape between your fingers and use as needed. With a cool day yesterday for my long run, I wore my tri-gear (reducing any risk of friction=irritation) but wore some light running gloves, in part 'cause of the cool temps, but also for wiping sweat (etc.).

 
This leads me to a question for you runner dudes. When I run I sweat like a dog. Like lose 3-4 lbs for a decent run. After I am done everything is soaked - shirt down to socks. I love/hate cotton shirts - hate 'em because they are completely drenched 2 miles in and love 'em because I can wipe the sweat out of my eyes with the sleeves. Any good alternatives?
I've been wearing a headband and keep it fairly low (ie: just above my eyebrows). I haven't had any issues. Just make sure to wear sunscreen otherwise you'll get a funny looking tan line on your forehead.
 
Hey, guys. It was in the low 40's here this morning, so I was totally bummed when I couldn't drag my butt out of bed to run. I LOVE cold-weather running!!! But my body told me that it needed the extra rest after a couple of heavy training weeks, so I listened. Anyway, pretty light day at work, so I'll probably duck out early this afternoon to go my 8-miler. (By the way, I think I'm gonna start sticking nursery rhymes in the middle of my posts to see if anybody is actually reading them anymore. I think I'm starting to bore you guys....)

I know it's preseason, but actually looking forward to tonight's MNF game and to seeing how Brett looks after having a full week of practice under his belt. I'm probably in the minority among Packers fans, but I would really like to see him do well in Minnesota. Just love the passion with which he plays the game!!!

meeka - How was the du??

tri-man - You did a 10-mile tempo run followed up by a 20-miler? Damn, dude. Not sure that's something even I would attempt. Good work, and I know I've said this before, but just be careful ramping up so quickly.

jmcc - Hope you're feeling better.

liquors - I know jacksh*t about cycling, but it sounds like you had a great ride. Especially with your relative lack of training.

Sand - I second (and third) what the others said about cotton. As in, never wear it.

The_Man - Nice work out there! :lmao:

 
This leads me to a question for you runner dudes. When I run I sweat like a dog. Like lose 3-4 lbs for a decent run. After I am done everything is soaked - shirt down to socks. I love/hate cotton shirts - hate 'em because they are completely drenched 2 miles in and love 'em because I can wipe the sweat out of my eyes with the sleeves. Any good alternatives?
I've been wearing a headband and keep it fairly low (ie: just above my eyebrows). I haven't had any issues. Just make sure to wear sunscreen otherwise you'll get a funny looking tan line on your forehead.
I made that mistake once. Not a good look. :lmao: Feeling ready for the race this weekend?? What's the goal time??

 
Nice weekend everyone! Jack and Jill went up the hill.....

Taper down week for me....1/2 on Sat!!!

Edit to add: I'm feeling really good for the 1/2. All my training runs (tempo, interval, and long) have been done according to plan. My goal time is 1:45:00. That's pretty lofty for me and about 20 minutes faster than my first 1/2 (about 3.5 months ago).

 
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I'll post Garmin stats tomorrow, but was extremely pleased with the time and the day. The only sad part was that I didn't get to spend it with Culdeus. He had a nice ride; and ended somewhere around 5:10 (my best guess); but not up to what he had hoped (waiting for his friends really slowed him down).
Yeah, I had no real objectives this year. I knew even with perfect conditions repeating last year was going to be painful on the base I had. This was just mainly a ride to put in the back pocket for experience later on. I doubt I could have made it non stop either. I think last year we stopped for about 12 minutes. This year I was closer to 40 minutes. Much more social. I did the last 70 basically solo, and certainly would have pushed it under 5 if I knew Ben was out there and wanted to go at it. I really thought he was taking it even more easy than me after seeing him blow up at the hot rocks about 3 weeks back.My rolling time was well under 5 hours, more like 4:50 or so, maybe much lower. Need to finish processing the garmin data. Chip time should be under 5:15 so with stops taken out certainly a 4:45 ride time was possible. One of these years the ride will actually be hard with a south wind and some heat as well.
 
Agreed on the heavy sweat thing, I'm the same way dropping 3-4 lbs even while drinking a lot of water on my longer runs. But I wouldn't think of wearing cotton, I'd be carrying 1/2 that sweat in my shirt if I did. So always wear technical shirts, and as Poppa and tri-man do, I've started carrying something to wipe my head, in my case a 1/3 of a handtowel I cut up.

I also just bought a visor when I was at Koerner's running store, it's supposed to help with keeping sweat from dripping down your face, into your eyes, which is often a problem for me. We'll see how that works.

 
Official times aren't up yet, but I'm guessing I'm going to be slightly slower than what my watch had, as I didn't start my Garmin until we were rolling (we walked the bikes for the first bit); though I also didn't turn it off right away at the finish either. Regardless, I certainly had PR's for 100k, 100 miles and total race.

My Garmin Data can be found here. The first line has totals, and the last page is a repeat of the page before for the most part, but has miles 96 on at the bottom.

For the most part I rode a pretty smart race, and kept my HR about where I'd like it. Our first mile was our slowest due to all the traffic. At mile 12 is where I went solo for quite a bit to catch a second breakaway group (my main group for most of the day!), and I endured a 28.8 mph mile while still maintaining a low (sub 170 HR). The next few miles hurt as it escalated, but I was able to bring it down until mile 24. During this stretch, the bigger group splintered, and I spent waaaaaaay too much energy bridging gaps. I burnt too many matches right here which could have really cost my day had I not been able to get my HR back down. Miles 42-47 were all solo miles, and while they were somewhat slow (barely faster than 20 mph) I was able to keep my HR under 170. Once the bigger group caught up with me, my HR miraculously dropped below 150 for the four mile stretch from 55-59 (this is when I decided I really wanted to go for a sub 4:30, and didn't want to stop. As I predicted before hand, I was most likely to have problems from mile 80 on due to my lack of long rides in training. My HR blew up right at mile 80 and from then on I was flirting with bonking until the end. Virtually every mile from 79 on I reached a max HR of over 180 (red lining for me), and did all that I could to keep it from getting any higher. Without my HR monitor, I am positive that I wouldn't have finished, as I would not have been smart enough to have slowed things down when needed.

 
tri-man - You did a 10-mile tempo run followed up by a 20-miler? Damn, dude. Not sure that's something even I would attempt. Good work, and I know I've said this before, but just be careful ramping up so quickly.
... :shrug: straight out of Hal Higdon training's Intermediate II program. It makes sense to me ...the second, long run is at a slow pace but on tired legs.
 
tri-man - You did a 10-mile tempo run followed up by a 20-miler? Damn, dude. Not sure that's something even I would attempt. Good work, and I know I've said this before, but just be careful ramping up so quickly.
... :shrug: straight out of Hal Higdon training's Intermediate II program. It makes sense to me ...the second, long run is at a slow pace but on tired legs.
I know. I recognized it right away as a Higdon workout plan. And you're right, it does make sense. I'm just too much of a wuss to do it. :lmao:
 
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Nice work all around folks - especially the HTH riders. I think riding 100 miles is amazing. Someday, maybe I'll actually understand what riding in a pack is like and why it's so important in racing...

Gruecd - I read your posts. Mostly afterwards I say something like, "God that's fast" or "Jeez that guy runs CONSTANTLY."

After my run on Wednesday I slipped into family mode for a couple of days then full-on fantasy football mode (2 drafts this weekend) so I didn't spend any time over here. I blew off my tempo run Thurs or Friday but did my 13 miler on Saturday - 1:59 and change (didn't download it yet). Finished the last four miles pretty strong, I know that, and definitely negative splits.

Tomorrow's speed work is 1/2 milers (4, I think). It's been a while since I worked the shorter stuff and I'm excited about it. With the cooler weather swimming at the outdoor pool is no longer an option, so I need to figure out a near-by alternative so I don't lose the base I built over the past month!

Sand - cotton is your enemy. Even in winter when I layer up I wear nothing cotton at all (Actually, ESPECIALLY in winter when it's below freezing).

For sweat, I usually get by with wiping my head straight back with my bare hand and flicking away whatever sweat is there. My issue is keeping my nose clear (and to a lesser extent not looking like a total freak to anyone who happens to see me).

 
Tomorrow's speed work is 1/2 milers (4, I think). It's been a while since I worked the shorter stuff and I'm excited about it.
Good luck with your intervals. I've got 5 x 600M with 200M recovery jogs, all done within the context of a 9-mile run. So I'll do a 5-mile "warm-up" that ends at the track, do the intervals, and then run the rest of the way home.ETA: Goal on the 600's is 2:18 (6:07 pace).
 
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Finally uploaded my Garmin data from Saturday's Mt. Ashland 15-miler, ranged from 5842' up to 7,048', with about an 1100' climb from miles 8 to 11. Considering all that (not to mention the hangover!), I'm really happy with the 12:04 pace overall.

Back on the local trails for 6 this morning put me at 130 for the month and 859 for the year, still tracking ok for my 1300 mile goal for 2009. "Just" need to do 110 miles/month the rest of the year to get there!

 
Had a good 8-miler tonight. Hilly route, and I managed to average 7:42's with a nice negative split. Ran the first four miles in 31:24 (7:51 average) and the second four miles in 30:10 (7:33).

Time to eat dinner and then watch Brett.... :popcorn:

 
Wow on the bikes!!!

I hit the gym for the first time in 2 weeks today. I took it easy as I am still congested but I feel much better. I did 3.87 miles in 60mins burning 434 calories. I was mainly going at 4.0 pace with HR around 125. Twice i tried to pick up the speed to 5.5 but I had trouble breathing and HR went to 166. I expect this to improve in the next few days as I cough up all the crap in my lungs.

On a side note. I work in ophthalomology as a surgical tech, so I get to know quite a few of the anesthesiologists. Today we had one I like and trust. I asked him if he worked in the heart hospital where I will be. He said no but the conversation turned to my issue. He has done bunches of them including Teddy Bruschi. He explained the whole process to me and says I should not be to worried about it. He has the same opinion I have that it is not that big a deal if it is happening to someone else. Anyway I feel quite a bit more at ease now. He also said the nice thing about it is I will also be getting the million dollar checkup with this so I will know if I have any other cardiac issues. That is the silver lining I guess.

 
I was supposed to be sick today (and am), but went for a run today anyway. Skipped the swim. Ran 3.2 miles in 7:40 pace (no shirt on at all!). Coulda gone faster, but started getting some cramping toward the end. Not quite all the way back. The good - repeated a sub 8 minute per mile 5k, finally got earplugs that stay in. Bad - no reverse split (:20 slower on the back half).

For my 5k in October I really want to see about getting closer to a 7 minute mile. Aiming for sub 22 minutes.

 
Finally uploaded my Garmin data from Saturday's Mt. Ashland 15-miler, ranged from 5842' up to 7,048', with about an 1100' climb from miles 8 to 11. Considering all that (not to mention the hangover!), I'm really happy with the 12:04 pace overall.

Back on the local trails for 6 this morning put me at 130 for the month and 859 for the year, still tracking ok for my 1300 mile goal for 2009. "Just" need to do 110 miles/month the rest of the year to get there!
8% average grade for that 2.5 miles - oof.
 
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Finally uploaded my Garmin data from Saturday's Mt. Ashland 15-miler, ranged from 5842' up to 7,048', with about an 1100' climb from miles 8 to 11. Considering all that (not to mention the hangover!), I'm really happy with the 12:04 pace overall.

Back on the local trails for 6 this morning put me at 130 for the month and 859 for the year, still tracking ok for my 1300 mile goal for 2009. "Just" need to do 110 miles/month the rest of the year to get there!
8% average grade for that 2.5 miles - oof.
:goodposting: Good Lord! That is some serious climbing :goodposting:
 
Official times aren't up yet, but I'm guessing I'm going to be slightly slower than what my watch had, as I didn't start my Garmin until we were rolling (we walked the bikes for the first bit); though I also didn't turn it off right away at the finish either. Regardless, I certainly had PR's for 100k, 100 miles and total race.

My Garmin Data can be found here. The first line has totals, and the last page is a repeat of the page before for the most part, but has miles 96 on at the bottom.

For the most part I rode a pretty smart race, and kept my HR about where I'd like it. Our first mile was our slowest due to all the traffic. At mile 12 is where I went solo for quite a bit to catch a second breakaway group (my main group for most of the day!), and I endured a 28.8 mph mile while still maintaining a low (sub 170 HR). The next few miles hurt as it escalated, but I was able to bring it down until mile 24. During this stretch, the bigger group splintered, and I spent waaaaaaay too much energy bridging gaps. I burnt too many matches right here which could have really cost my day had I not been able to get my HR back down. Miles 42-47 were all solo miles, and while they were somewhat slow (barely faster than 20 mph) I was able to keep my HR under 170. Once the bigger group caught up with me, my HR miraculously dropped below 150 for the four mile stretch from 55-59 (this is when I decided I really wanted to go for a sub 4:30, and didn't want to stop. As I predicted before hand, I was most likely to have problems from mile 80 on due to my lack of long rides in training. My HR blew up right at mile 80 and from then on I was flirting with bonking until the end. Virtually every mile from 79 on I reached a max HR of over 180 (red lining for me), and did all that I could to keep it from getting any higher. Without my HR monitor, I am positive that I wouldn't have finished, as I would not have been smart enough to have slowed things down when needed.
You killed it man. Top 50 finish???
 
You killed it man. Top 50 finish???
They screwed up my chip time (had me finishing second at 29 mph ;) ) so I can't know for sure, but using my Garmin time (has to be pretty close to accurate); I am approximately 50th overall. That is only of those that purchased chips though. Of those who rode (15,000+, but I don't know how many did the full 100), less than 1,500 (of those who raced the full 100) purchased chips. I'd like to think that the majority of "good" riders purchased chips, while those who were weaker didn't. I would have placed 12th of 225 in my age bracket, of those who purchased chips.
 

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