Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[The_Man]

Thanks to all for the wisdom about dealing with injury. Less than a half-mile into last night's "assessment jog" it was clear that I shouldn't be running. Actually, it was probably even more clear to anyone who saw me that I really can't run just now.

So I shut it down, walked home, and am going to the doctor this afternoon. It sucks to have 10 weeks of my best training ever end like this just a few days before a race, but as you helped me remember, the point of this training was really to get ready to start training for a marathon. Trying to hobble through 10 miles in 90 degree heat tomorrow while possibly doing further damage is not my idea of a good time.

But even though I know it's the right thing to do, I am so bummed out. Work is incredibly stressful right now, so running was both a great stress relief and something to feel good about. Now it's another thing to feel bad about. Today is my kids' last day of school and I'm finding myself uncomfortably jealous of them -- all I want to do is hang around with nothing to worry about for the next 2.5 months.

 

[BassNBrew]

Thanks to all for the wisdom about dealing with injury. Less than a half-mile into last night's "assessment jog" it was clear that I shouldn't be running. Actually, it was probably even more clear to anyone who saw me that I really can't run just now.

So I shut it down, walked home, and am going to the doctor this afternoon. It sucks to have 10 weeks of my best training ever end like this just a few days before a race, but as you helped me remember, the point of this training was really to get ready to start training for a marathon. Trying to hobble through 10 miles in 90 degree heat tomorrow while possibly doing further damage is not my idea of a good time.

But even though I know it's the right thing to do, I am so bummed out. Work is incredibly stressful right now, so running was both a great stress relief and something to feel good about. Now it's another thing to feel bad about. Today is my kids' last day of school and I'm finding myself uncomfortably jealous of them -- all I want to do is hang around with nothing to worry about for the next 2.5 months.

Get well soon.

 

[FUBAR]

Thanks to all for the wisdom about dealing with injury. Less than a half-mile into last night's "assessment jog" it was clear that I shouldn't be running. Actually, it was probably even more clear to anyone who saw me that I really can't run just now.

So I shut it down, walked home, and am going to the doctor this afternoon. It sucks to have 10 weeks of my best training ever end like this just a few days before a race, but as you helped me remember, the point of this training was really to get ready to start training for a marathon. Trying to hobble through 10 miles in 90 degree heat tomorrow while possibly doing further damage is not my idea of a good time.

But even though I know it's the right thing to do, I am so bummed out. Work is incredibly stressful right now, so running was both a great stress relief and something to feel good about. Now it's another thing to feel bad about. Today is my kids' last day of school and I'm finding myself uncomfortably jealous of them -- all I want to do is hang around with nothing to worry about for the next 2.5 months.

sucks man but you're a lot better off resting now, so look on the bright side, you're be back a lot faster doing the right thing.

 

[FUBAR]

1 hour run this morning, didn't realize how humid it was until about 30 minutes in. Started off telling myself to run comfortably, so I did and at mile 2 I see I'm at 13:40 for a nice 6:50 pace. Felt great right then but then the humidity and heat started to kick in and I slowed to a 7:30 pace, still felt decent. As the run went on though I realized why I usually run with water and the last 30 minutes sucked. Walked for a minute twice but still finished 7.6 at an hour flat, just under an 8 minute pace - but when the break down is 28:40 for the first 4 and 31:20 for 3.6 (8:36), that's kind of a kick in the pants.

Down with humidity!

 

[tri-man 47]

Wraith - one other point: Think about the direction of your swim as related to the morning sun. The worst is when you're swimming right into the rising sun, which makes it extremely difficult to spot the buoys and boats. The sun to your right is a nuisance as it's kind of blinding as you turn for each breath.

The_Man - right decision. Tough decision. Sorry to hear!

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Forecast for the Cutting Edge Half-IM on Sunday (downstate Illinois, in Effingham) - low 90's, chance of a thunderstorm ...so probably humid (but maybe overcast?). Heat index possibly approaching 100. Same conditions as last year, when 25% of us DNF'ed. It will be another ..interesting day. Water temp currently at 80, so only a slim chance that it will drop enough for wetsuits.

I wasn't well prepared for the bike last year, and I've remedied that with this year's training. Given the conditions, the first goal, of course, is to finish the race. My PR is 5:55 from four years ago. I had planned to beat that comfortably with better biking and a stronger run. But with the conditions, again, my best hope is just to slip in under that.

Swim is a two loop course. Bike is a straight out and back, and breaks down into three definable segments each way, so I'll treat that as six segments. The run is a double out and back, so I'll treat that as four segments ...essentially four 5Ks. All told, then, twelve segments; I'll pick them off one by one. Taking a little off the bike speed should allow me to better focus on nutrition and fluids and conserve a little energy for the run. For the run, I want to keep moving. Goals: 45 minute swim; 3 hour bike (~18.5 mph); 2 hour run (~9:10/mile); plus transitions. 5:50 total.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Thanks to all for the wisdom about dealing with injury. Less than a half-mile into last night's "assessment jog" it was clear that I shouldn't be running. Actually, it was probably even more clear to anyone who saw me that I really can't run just now.

So I shut it down, walked home, and am going to the doctor this afternoon. It sucks to have 10 weeks of my best training ever end like this just a few days before a race, but as you helped me remember, the point of this training was really to get ready to start training for a marathon. Trying to hobble through 10 miles in 90 degree heat tomorrow while possibly doing further damage is not my idea of a good time.

But even though I know it's the right thing to do, I am so bummed out. Work is incredibly stressful right now, so running was both a great stress relief and something to feel good about. Now it's another thing to feel bad about. Today is my kids' last day of school and I'm finding myself uncomfortably jealous of them -- all I want to do is hang around with nothing to worry about for the next 2.5 months.

Sorry to hear that....my doc appointment is monday to figure out my leg as well. best of luck in a quick recovery(compression ice packs are my friend).

 

[gruecd]

tri-man - Good luck on Sunday! I certainly don't envy you racing in that weather. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!!!!

The_Man and benson - Get well soon, guys!

Just a slow 5-mile recovery run this afternoon and 16 tomorrow, and then I finally get a day off!

Volunteering tomorrow at the High Cliff Half IM Triathlon. Should be fun!!

 

[pigskinliquors]

Thanks to all for the wisdom about dealing with injury. Less than a half-mile into last night's "assessment jog" it was clear that I shouldn't be running. Actually, it was probably even more clear to anyone who saw me that I really can't run just now.

So I shut it down, walked home, and am going to the doctor this afternoon. It sucks to have 10 weeks of my best training ever end like this just a few days before a race, but as you helped me remember, the point of this training was really to get ready to start training for a marathon. Trying to hobble through 10 miles in 90 degree heat tomorrow while possibly doing further damage is not my idea of a good time.

But even though I know it's the right thing to do, I am so bummed out. Work is incredibly stressful right now, so running was both a great stress relief and something to feel good about. Now it's another thing to feel bad about. Today is my kids' last day of school and I'm finding myself uncomfortably jealous of them -- all I want to do is hang around with nothing to worry about for the next 2.5 months.

So sorry to hear GB. I tried to run sub 3:20 (BQ) for 2 straight marathons, injuring my calf after my 18 mile run one year, then after my 20 mile run the next year (I was tapering ). I've since had to really change my running philosophy (not as much as I should), and if I can ever get my ego out of the way, I know I'll be a happier, healthier runner. Hang in there. TRI-MAN: Make us proud! I'll be in meetings all day on Sunday, and will take texts from anybody who has updates.

Fubar, Sand, et al.: I am also pissed at this frick'n heat/humidity. I got a bit cocky after my last run (which had to have been a bit cooler), so expected to be able to run 8:30's in the heat yesterday evening. With the temp at 95 and Heat Index at 101, I took off for what I thought was a slow first mile (8:45). With my HR past where I wanted it, I slowed down for mile 2 (8:58), and my HR was still on the rise. I slowed down even more for the next .5 (9:13), and HR was at 173. I shut it down, and walked in the shaded area to get my HR back under 150 before starting (a good 45 seconds). I then headed back to turn my desired 6 miler into a 5 with a stop. I kept my HR right around 170 by running a 9:18 (included the 9:13 start), followed by a 9:22. I ran the last mile in 8:55, letting my HR get up to 176. This blows!!!!

I'm now headed to a conference through Wed. and don't know how much time I'll have to train and get on here. I do know I'll get some swimming in, as my hotel has a lap pool. Best of luck to Tri-man and and anyone else racing!

 

[wraith5]

The_Man - I'm really sorry to hear you had to Shut It DownTM but just know you are being smart and doing the right thing for your overall goals. Injuring yourself worse would do you no good at all! Glad you are going to the doctor as well.

Tri-man - Your training for this race has been truly outstanding. You are as ready as you possibly could be. Just adjust to the weather as best you can (you have 30-40% chance of t-storms throughout the race so it could get real dicey out there) and be safe. It's not going to be the ideal day for a PR to say the least - if it comes, it comes.

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Thanks so much for all the tri advice, guys! I'm going to go pick up my race packet today so I can read through whatever materials they provide.

I tried on the wetsuit last night - interesting little adventure. I'm really glad I've shed a few pounds in my training this year (sitting at 190 these days)!! I'm guessing I didn't have it adjusted quite right in a few places, so I'll put it on a few more times before next Sunday. Still no OWS yet - I'm going to try to go Wed to the one place I know has them scheduled, otherwise I'll be winging it. And if that's how it ends up, so be it.

 

[Sand]

Fubar, Sand, et al.: I am also pissed at this frick'n heat/humidity. I got a bit cocky after my last run (which had to have been a bit cooler), so expected to be able to run 8:30's in the heat yesterday evening. With the temp at 95 and Heat Index at 101, I took off for what I thought was a slow first mile (8:45). With my HR past where I wanted it, I slowed down for mile 2 (8:58), and my HR was still on the rise. I slowed down even more for the next .5 (9:13), and HR was at 173. I shut it down, and walked in the shaded area to get my HR back under 150 before starting (a good 45 seconds). I then headed back to turn my desired 6 miler into a 5 with a stop. I kept my HR right around 170 by running a 9:18 (included the 9:13 start), followed by a 9:22. I ran the last mile in 8:55, letting my HR get up to 176. This blows!!!!

Went out this morning (80/85) with plans for a 5 mile easy run. Held easy 8:20's through the first two and then (again) the wheels fell off. After 2.5 miles my HR was at 180 and stayed there. Managed to limp home averaging 9:15s - got 4 1/4 done. I lost 5-6 lbs in 38 minutes.I think my next few runs will be on the treadmill.Tri-Man -

 

[FUBAR]

I think my next few runs will be on the treadmill.

:X I'd rather beat myself senseless. This is why I bike and swim more in the summer. For some reason I don't mind spending an hour or two going back and forth in the pool but can't stand treadmills.

 

[Sand]

I think my next few runs will be on the treadmill.

I'd rather beat myself senseless. This is why I bike and swim more in the summer. For some reason I don't mind spending an hour or two going back and forth in the pool but can't stand treadmills.

I'm desperate at this point.

 

[meeka]

Good luck Tri-Man.

 

[gruecd]

I think my next few runs will be on the treadmill.

I'd rather beat myself senseless.

Agreed.

 

[BassNBrew]

Another brick today. 12 mile bike followed by a 10k run. Huge negative split on the run. Ran 13 mile/min pace for the first 5k and then 8 mile/min pace for the second 5k.

Yesterday I did my first track workout. Planned on 6 x 400m but adjusted down to 4 x 400m and 1 x 200m as the 95 degree temps did me in. Paces were 6'23, 6'43, 6'54, 6'53, 6'09. Should I be trying to smooth these out or just giving it my all and letting the chips fall where they may?

No promises, but I may try a 13.1 distance tomorrow if I can wake up.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Tri man- good luck tomorrow

Bass it sounds good...keep it going.

Gruecd...keep it up as well. I appreciate the kind words....I'm a fellow wisconsin native too.

The others...I enjoy reading your training updates.

This morning I went out and golfed. Walked(so it's some cardio and carrying my bag) shot a 49. Was only 5 over after 4....but fell apart.

Then I hit up the elliptical for 45 minutes....kept my HR to mid 150's....I wish I could run.

 

[gruecd]

Wow.

Had a blast working the water station at the tri, but next year I think I'm gonna have to be one of those wetsuit strippers. How fun is that?! By the way, winner went 3:58:15. I know the guy, and he's a beast.

Anyway, pretty tired after getting up at 5:30 and being on my feet literally all day, so I think I'm gonna flip-flop the schedule, rest today, and do my 16-miler tomorrow morning. The only bad thing is that I'm gonna have three straight days (S/M/T) with double-digit runs, but it is what it is. Some of my RWOL friends are knocking out MP miles already; I'm on the same training schedule, but I'm gonna hold off on the speedwork for a little bit. Not quite ready for that yet.

Hope you all have a great Saturday night, and tri-man, I have one word (acronym) for you--HTFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[prosopis]

Just checking in to let you guys know I am still trucking along at my pace. Avg about 25 miles a week. I saw a spot on the news here about a marathon at Mt Lemon in October. They said it would be the only uphill marathon in the US? Not sure if that is true or not but it would be pretty brutal. I dont think they had enough entry's signed up yet and are looking for more. It peaked my interest. It might kill me but I would love to try it. That is in Tucson- Mt Lemon

Anyone heard of this?

PS I have avoided this thread for a bit so I am not sure what is up.

 

[FUBAR]

Just checking in to let you guys know I am still trucking along at my pace. Avg about 25 miles a week. I saw a spot on the news here about a marathon at Mt Lemon in October. They said it would be the only uphill marathon in the US? Not sure if that is true or not but it would be pretty brutal. I dont think they had enough entry's signed up yet and are looking for more. It peaked my interest. It might kill me but I would love to try it. That is in Tucson- Mt Lemon

Anyone heard of this?

PS I have avoided this thread for a bit so I am not sure what is up.

Could be fun interesting. I always thought the Pikes Peak marathon / ascent looked cool. 35M bike this morning, threw some 5M speed intervals in, nothing special. Even on the bike it's hot, but so much better than running.

Time to hit the lake and sit on a boat!

 

[FUBAR]

Another brick today. 12 mile bike followed by a 10k run. Huge negative split on the run. Ran 13 mile/min pace for the first 5k and then 8 mile/min pace for the second 5k.

Yesterday I did my first track workout. Planned on 6 x 400m but adjusted down to 4 x 400m and 1 x 200m as the 95 degree temps did me in. Paces were 6'23, 6'43, 6'54, 6'53, 6'09. Should I be trying to smooth these out or just giving it my all and letting the chips fall where they may?

No promises, but I may try a 13.1 distance tomorrow if I can wake up.

Dude, did the cops catch you?

 

[wraith5]

Thinking about Tri-man so decided to check in.

Ran a miserable 13 miler yesterday. Was OK through 8 then I almost called it a day. 70/75% shouldn't be THAT hard. Anyway I HTFU'd and kept going (slowly). I lost about 4.5 pounds of sweat before it was over.

Happy Fathers Day!

 

[gruecd]

Hey, guys. Back from the 16-miler. Averaged 8:04 pace. Was sunny and warm, but it felt a little less humid, which helped. I've got 11 tomorrow and 13 on Tuesday, so as a result of taking today's SRD a day early, I'll be running 40 miles in three days. Gonna take tomorrow's 11 nice and easy.

The Tour of America's Dairyland Appleton Crit is this afternoon, and one of my friends is riding in the Masters 1/2/3 35+ category, so I think I'm gonna go watch. I think it'll be fun.

Here's my week in review:

M: 8 GA at 7:46 pace

T: 5 rec at 8:16

W: 12 MLR (hilly) at 7:38

T: 9 GA at 8:02

F: 5 rec at 8:37

S: SRD

S: 16 LR at 8:04

Total = 55 miles

wraith - That type of run is the worst. Way to HTFU.

tri-man - Hope you're kicking ### out there!!!

Hope you all have a great day, and Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there!!!!!

 

[2Young2BBald]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks.

Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

 

[gruecd]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks. Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

Damn, dude. Glad to hear you're (mostly) OK. Stuff like this makes me re-think the whole biking thing....

 

[Sand]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks. Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

I'm just glad you're typing this in right now.

 

[prosopis]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks. Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

I'm just glad you're typing this in right now.

 

[meeka]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks. Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

I'm just glad you're typing this in right now.

Holy cow! So glad that you are doing OK. Glad for you and your family. Fathers Day would never have been the same. Good luck getting ready for the HIM. We will all be pulling for you. I just hope Tri-Man does not kick your butt for stealing his thunder today. :X

 

[Dexter]

Hey, guys. Back from the 16-miler. Averaged 8:04 pace. Was sunny and warm, but it felt a little less humid, which helped. I've got 11 tomorrow and 13 on Tuesday, so as a result of taking today's SRD a day early, I'll be running 40 miles in three days. Gonna take tomorrow's 11 nice and easy.

The Tour of America's Dairyland Appleton Crit is this afternoon, and one of my friends is riding in the Masters 1/2/3 35+ category, so I think I'm gonna go watch. I think it'll be fun.

Here's my week in review:

M: 8 GA at 7:46 pace

T: 5 rec at 8:16

W: 12 MLR (hilly) at 7:38

T: 9 GA at 8:02

F: 5 rec at 8:37

S: SRD

S: 16 LR at 8:04

Total = 55 miles

wraith - That type of run is the worst. Way to HTFU.

tri-man - Hope you're kicking ### out there!!!

Hope you all have a great day, and Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there!!!!!

 

[Dexter]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks. Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

Glad to hear you're okay. I assume this means you're out for the Tri at Metro this Sunday?

 

[2Young2BBald]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks. Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

Glad to hear you're okay. I assume this means you're out for the Tri at Metro this Sunday?

I am not ruling it out, but likely not. Either way I'll be out there as my daughter is doing the relay. They were in for the tri, but their swimmer has mono. Instead, they are doing a 2 person relay, with my daughter doing run 1 and the bike and the other girl doing the 5K. Thanks to you and everyone here for the kinds words!!

 

[Dexter]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks. Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

Glad to hear you're okay. I assume this means you're out for the Tri at Metro this Sunday?

I am not ruling it out, but likely not. Either way I'll be out there as my daughter is doing the relay. They were in for the tri, but their swimmer has mono. Instead, they are doing a 2 person relay, with my daughter doing run 1 and the bike and the other girl doing the 5K. Thanks to you and everyone here for the kinds words!!

No problem glad ur doing okay! If you need an herbal medicine let me know. See you Sunday!

 

[tri-man 47]

found a couple of interesting things about heat and humidity affect running.

One is based on adding the temperature and dewpoint together:

90-100 is probably ideal, anything below 130 is pretty much OK to go for a fast time (maybe 120 for longer distances, say HM or above)

Between 130-150 will see a gradual slowdown in pace

Above 150, forget pace altogether and just focus on finishing

Today's race conditions (as of 4 p.m., checking after my daughter and I got home):Temp - 92, dewpoint - 73 ..humidity above 50

I'm very frustrated to say, for the second year in a row: DNF.

Pre-race: I felt rested enough from the taper, and slept reasonably well last night. Woke up at 4:30 a.m. (for 7 a.m. start). I usually have some oatmeal at home before long workouts, but being on the road, I brought along a bagel and started eating that right away (nothing new on race day, right??). Also had a banana at 6 a.m. Got to transition by about 5:45 a.m. and picked out a good spot (lots of room in a very nice set-up). So not rushed. Got in a short swim to stretch out.

Swim: A two-loop course (exiting the water after the first loop so they can check numbers). Too warm for wetsuits, unfortunately. The water felt 'heavy' and I felt rather sluggish throughout the swim. But I stayed focused on technique throughout (good catch and pull; hip rotation; full breathing), kept very straight lines in the water, and had very little interference. Yet the swim was a minute slower (47 min) than last year. They started us in two large groups, but again, that wasn't a hindrance. I was actually in about third place overall ...for the first thirty yards as a couple of us ran down the beach before cutting into the water. Then the guys started to pass me by ...

T1: Under three minutes as I geared up for the bike while talking briefly with my daughter.

Bike: It started off OK. I was prepared to go a little slower due to conditions. But I did notice in the first few miles that (a) I had some labored breathing at spots, (b) I was dripping some sweat, and © my gut felt full and a bit off (most likely the bagel). All are rare so early in a ride. First hour on the bike was at a bit over 18 mph, which I would have been happy with. But I noticed that I had to go with a lighter gear than all my training to be comfortable. Also, I was just hitting some of the few serious hills on the course. Even before the far turnaround, I was getting to the point that I couldn't hold the big ring in front, and that has not happened at all in training. That killed any efficient riding. By the return, I realized I had bonked. I couldn't hold strong gears, and couldn't put any strong push behind my pedaling. And still twenty some miles to go! Regarding hills: The fastest I've hit on a downslope on a Chicago trail was 26 mph. On this course, I was over 30 mph a few times, maxing out over 36 mph - not something I'm used to. So climbing those few hills was a foreign experience to my muscles. Very fun to hit that speed, though (with some bend in the road on that fastest hill). At the last water station, with me already struggling mightily, they hand me a Gatorade ...as I ride on and twist the top to drink, I find they forgot to remove the inner seal. At around mile 41, a rider comes alongside me and says "hey, tri-man!" It was a guy I knew from about 25 years ago. We rode the last miles together and caught up on things.

T2: Because of the bonk, I decided to bag the run (like last year ). I know ya can't un-bonk. So to start a half-marathon in that condition would have accomplished little. I knew I'd have to report to you guys, which weighed on my mind. But I hate doing that run/walk thing. And too, I'd put in 4:20 for the day ...struggling through another couple hours could have been risky.

I'll cheer on Wraith's first tri next week, then pick up my own sprint tri in two weeks. Maybe I need to stay with the shorter distances.

2Young - so sorry to hear about your accident! That rightfully qualifies as a bad day. I do hope you don't have lingering issues from the crash.

 

[wraith5]

Tri-man: Sorry brother. Smart move stopping before you got yourself hurt. You did everything right in your training. Sometimes, it just isn't your day. It sucks that it happened to you twice on this same race, but dem's the facts. It just wasn't your day.

2Y - can't accurately express how sorry I am for your accident, and how grateful I am that you weren't hurt any worse.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Hey guys. Back from a week down in Orlando with the family. Let me tell you that my first week of training went ok. That is a good way to describe it. I have not caught up on most of the reading, but sounds like most are either injured, racing, or training pretty good. Here is how my last week plus has gone as far as running.

6/11 - 9 miles before leaving for Orlando

6/12 - 4 miles recovery - was supposed to be 5, but ony had an option of a treadmill at the hotel so i cut out early by one mile because I was bored.

6/13 - 13 miles in the early morning humidity....welcome to florida....then all day walking around Animal kingdom

6/14 - rest by the pool

6/15 - 9 miles...supposed to do 4 miles in here at 15K pace. I did one and the humidity was killing me. I just could not do it...then all day walking around Hollywood Studios

6/16 - 11 miles...did these pretty well...then all day and night walking around Magic Kingdom

6/17 - complete rest day...supposed to do 5 recovery, but was just too tired and felt with the extra walking i was doing, i could injure myself

6/18 - 9 miles...then rest by the pool

6/19 - 5 easy recovery miles before we left orlando and drove 14 hours straight to get home

6/20 - supposed to do 15, but did not do anything as i had too much to do around the house after getting home...i was just too beat to run at all

This was my first week of official marathon training and let me tell you that I was/am done with running in the humidity. I am anxious to see what the humidity will be like tomorrow for my run, but I have to think that it will feel much better than in Orlando. I felt like I was running through curtains most of the time. I am not sure how anyone runs down there. Hats off to Darren for going through all that mess.

Overall, it was a great trip and we had a great time. At the parks, I was the fast pass runner so I got a lot of extra fitness walking around the parks.

Glad to be back and for you injured souls out there, get healthy and enjoy the rest.

 

[gruecd]

11-miler done. Kept it pretty easy, since it was sandwiched between the 16 yesterday and another 13 tomorrow. Averaged 8:20 pace, but I felt good throughout and ran the last mile in 7:56.

I'll be doing the 13 tomorrow night, so at least now I've got about 36 hours to rest.

tri-man - Sorry about the DNF. Learn from it, and get 'em next time!

pmb - How ya liking Pfitz so far?

Quick shower and off to work. Have a great day, everybody!!!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

So, for father's day, I got hit by a car on a training ride this morning and got back a while ago after spending 3 hours in the ER. Amazingly, nothing is broken (on my body, not so sure about the bike) and, as of right now, it does not appear I have a concussion (my head and face were the first to land). I was almost 19 miles in to a long training ride when a guy decided to blow though a stop sign. I was going about 18 MPH or so, locked the brakes and got tossed over the bars and slid in to the guys front tire as he was trying to stop. I have heavy road rash on my left shoulder and elbow, 2 deep cuts on my left hand, a nasty bump on my left knee, a bump on my chin that looks I'm trying to grow a cherry tomato out of my goatee and a knot and bruise on my right ankle which, I think had something to do with me staying clipped in. They gave me a pain killing shot that it starting to wear off and I am starting to really feel it all over. As for the bike, I haven't had a chance to get a good look at it, but know that the aero bars are tweaked, I obviously flat spotted both tires and the read wheel doesn't look right. I am going to try and get it in to a tri specialty shop tomorrow. I can't even imagine how upset I'll be if this keeps me from racing the HIM in Muncie in 3 weeks.

Hope all of you are having a better father's day than me!

Glad to hear you're okay. Obviously the HTFU philosophy paid off for you in a big way.tri-man -- Sorry about the DNF, but man I can't even imagine doing a HIM in those conditions. I don't think I'd even want to do a 13 mile run, let alone all the other stuff.

 

[pmbrown_22]

11-miler done. Kept it pretty easy, since it was sandwiched between the 16 yesterday and another 13 tomorrow. Averaged 8:20 pace, but I felt good throughout and ran the last mile in 7:56.

I'll be doing the 13 tomorrow night, so at least now I've got about 36 hours to rest.

tri-man - Sorry about the DNF. Learn from it, and get 'em next time!

pmb - How ya liking Pfitz so far?

Quick shower and off to work. Have a great day, everybody!!!

So far I like it. It is exactly what I am looking for. Now if I could just be less busy in the real world, I would feel better getting my runs and things in. I have just been extremely busy the last month, but am doing my best to get them in. The fact that I really don't have to think too hard about what I am doing is what I like most about it. I am also just about done with the book. It is very good information and does tie everything together.

 

[wraith5]

(In other words: 2Y how are you feeling?)

 

[tri-man 47]

...and Wraith, how you doin' as you head toward your first tri?

(anyone else up this coming weekend?)

 

[2Young2BBald]

(In other words: 2Y how are you feeling?)

:X What they say about second day soreness is sure true. I hurt in places (like my ribs) that were not sore yesterday. However, I am trying to go from woe is me to HTFU. I didn't train my ### off since February for nothing. If anyone has wrecked out, any thoughts on what to look for as I get back after it? I plan on taking a few days off and then will swim first, thinking that it is non impact. I call a bike shop that specializes in tri bikes. The guy I talked to said he'd get me in ASAP. I am trying to get a copy of the the Police Report. I assume that there will be some repairs that need some heavy work and want to be sure the driver's insurance co is going to pick up most of the tab. I was supposed to race Sunday. Its a no now, but I may make a late call this weekend.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

2 young...hope you feel better

Tri man....bad break...but good decision to not chance and perhaps have worse medical issues.

I'm off to my doc appointment...hopefully get my legs figured out.

 

[wraith5]

...and Wraith, how you doin' as you head toward your first tri?

Honestly, I've been tired lately. It seems like good workouts have been hard to come by and I've been a little frustrated. Especially with the runs, but a couple of the swims were pretty rough, too, and I have not been riding the bike as much as I should be just because I felt like I needed the rest days. Of course, I haven't been hit by a car, so I really should temper my whining...

Anyway, all that said, I went to the 50M pool at lunch and knocked out 2100 meters (2300 yards) and felt great. If the hour hadn't been up (adult lap time) I would have kept going. I got some new goggles that don't pinch my nose (big plus!) and some ear plugs, which worked great. I also bought a pull buoy and tried that out for a few lengths with some (I think) success. I ended with an 800 then a 600 and both really felt smooth and comfortable. I didn't have my Ironman watch so I didn't get exact times (I may actually have to buy a 2nd watch to keep with my swim stuff... or a new Garmin...) but I was about 2:10 per 100 yards on the 800. At this point I'd be fine with that time next weekend.

Still not sure if I'll get an OWS in or not - we'll see. At this point I'm focusing on the experience rather than the finish time (especially since it's going to be a 90 degree day).

 

[tri-man 47]

Still not sure if I'll get an OWS in or not - we'll see. At this point I'm focusing on the experience rather than the finish time (especially since it's going to be a 90 degree day).

Worst case, you could hop in the water before the race to warm up and get a quicky bit of experience in OWS (it becomes your last pit stop too). Not ideal, of course, but at least you could swim a few minutes, then get out and absorb the experience before the race begins. I'm planning to be there, so you'll be able to unload all your nervous chatter on me.

 

[Dexter]

I bumped up my mileage today from my normal route (3 miles), but I did 4.5 today. I really need to start adding long runs to my routine.

What do you guys wear to keep the sweat out of your eyes? Half my problem is my eyes are burning half way through my run.

 

[BassNBrew]

:( (In other words: 2Y how are you feeling?)

:X What they say about second day soreness is sure true. I hurt in places (like my ribs) that were not sore yesterday. However, I am trying to go from woe is me to HTFU. I didn't train my ### off since February for nothing. If anyone has wrecked out, any thoughts on what to look for as I get back after it? I plan on taking a few days off and then will swim first, thinking that it is non impact. I call a bike shop that specializes in tri bikes. The guy I talked to said he'd get me in ASAP. I am trying to get a copy of the the Police Report. I assume that there will be some repairs that need some heavy work and want to be sure the driver's insurance co is going to pick up most of the tab. I was supposed to race Sunday. Its a no now, but I may make a late call this weekend.

Hey there 2y. Sorry to hear about your accident. I went down at 36 mph a couple of years ago. My best advice to to get back on the bike asap. I actually felt better on the bike than laying in bed at night. It took about a year for the tail bone to feel right and almost that long for the hip to get right, still carry the scar. I would definately race this weekend. That would be a huge psychological lift for you prior to the main event. I don't think you'll agrigate anything by biking and it will help the soreness go away sooner.I would be angling for a new wheelset out of the deal at a min and possibly a new bike all together. If you're not pressing them for medical, they'll likely be generous.

 

[Sand]

Bike guys,

Found a possible used powertap (Elite+ on a Kinlin wheel). 2000 miles on a trainer for $725. Good deal? Bad deal? Trolling for opinions here.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I was supposed to race Sunday. Its a no now, but I may make a late call this weekend.

Hey there 2y. Sorry to hear about your accident. I went down at 36 mph a couple of years ago. My best advice to to get back on the bike asap. I actually felt better on the bike than laying in bed at night. It took about a year for the tail bone to feel right and almost that long for the hip to get right, still carry the scar. I would definately race this weekend. That would be a huge psychological lift for you prior to the main event. I don't think you'll agrigate anything by biking and it will help the soreness go away sooner.I would be angling for a new wheelset out of the deal at a min and possibly a new bike all together. If you're not pressing them for medical, they'll likely be generous.

Looking more like a yes now for Sunday. The beach for the swim is currently closed and I doubt it will reopen based on how warm it is going to be this week, so it looks like it'll be a Duathlon instead of a tri. Its a shorty, at 1.5 mile run, 13 mile bike, 5K run. My bike will be done this afternoon! My face broke it's fall so well, there was no damage to the frame or wheels. It needed new tires, shifters and cables and a full realignment on the bars. (Dexter, HUGE plug for Fraser Cycle, they treated me like a king yesterday). My daughter is doing the relay Sunday, so I can always back things down and just try and see her and her team on the course (which is a closed bike course, so I only have to watch for other racers and not cars).

 

[pmbrown_22]

Got up early today and did 8 miles with 10 x 100M strides. It was a different run for me as I have not done Strides before. I think I did them a little fast because they wore me out a bit which they are not supposed to do. I think my legs are still a little jellylike from vacation. Oh well, onward and upward. It does feel great though to be back on a schedule again.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Pretty upset with my doc appointment yest. They took an xray of my leg and he said you don't have a stress fracture...well no kidding. Maybe if you did a bone scan. He then talked about how not much is out there on shin splints and offered up some physical therapy and sent me on my way. I've never felt so brushed off in a doctor's appointment before.

My plan is to get fitted for new shoes....cross train more....ice etc and stretch more.

What do yall think?

2Y- I'm excited you're getting back up and going for it. Good luck on sunday.

 

[gruecd]

I've never felt so brushed off in a doctor's appointment before.

I hate to bring up politics, but, well......get used to it.