benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Yeah true, it was in Madison...a place you should know.I hate to bring up politics, but, well......get used to it.
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wraith5
Footballguy
was this a sports medicine guy, or a general practicioner? I am NEVER satisfied with the answers I get from my GP for sports-related stuff. A few years ago I was having shoulder trouble and got in (eventually) to see a specialist. He and his intern really took their time with me to identify the pain, talk about the potential reasons for it, and likely solutions. That's the kind of care I'd expect from any specialist (ie they don't have 30 runny noses waiting to see them before they can have lunch). ___________________________ 3x 1600 this morning, 7:02 (revised) goal pace: 6:50, 7:06, 7:13. Got my HR up to 193 on the second repeat - I didn't even want to do the 3rd. 74 degrees and 78% humidity when I finished (5.75 miles overall). 1 run, 1 bike, 1 swim, and 1 brick to go before Sunday's race. Tri-man -Yeah true, it was in Madison...a place you should know.I hate to bring up politics, but, well......get used to it.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Bike guys, helmet question: Everything I have read states its one crash and done on a helmet, is this correct? My helmet, a Rudy Project, looks amazing considering how hard I landed on it. Is there any way to check it over to see if it can be worn still, or would it be best just to get another? I am hading over to my LBS to pick up my bike tonight and thought I'd bring it along to have the guys there look it over too.
Sand
Footballguy
The material is designed to give (think car crumple zone) instead of your head. It isn't elastic, though, so the material really is only good for one event. If you landed on your head, get a new one. If the insurance is paying for the bike they'll pay for a helmet.
wraith5
Footballguy
Helmet = replaceableHead = not quite so much
tri-man 47
Footballguy
All at short distances and an easy pace!!! You won't get better/faster over the next five days ...so don't try, especially in this heat. Keep loose; keep relaxed; keep hydrated.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Always ask your doctor to refer you to a physical therapist. A good PT person is going to a better understanding of running injuries than most family doctors.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Done, I am going to get another Rudy Project Kontact+, no need to mess with what works. Bike is back already and she had very little damage. I know most would probably think about finding ways to get e new bike, but I really like her and want to dance with the one that brung me down in Muncie. Turns out, they may resort to a pool swim for Sunday's tri, this may be the best possible thing for me.Helmet = replaceableHead = not quite so much
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Every once in a while I wear a headband, but the problem with that is that I shave my head, so if I wear a headband during a long run, I end up with a stripe around my head that's whiter than the rest. I already have a couple of light areas near my ears where my sunglasses sit, so I don't want any more facial abnormalities. When sweat starts to get in my eyes, I just towell off with my shirt. That's usually good enough.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I wear a white runner's cap. It generally does a good job. Another trick (which I picked up from Poppa), is to carry along a bandana (or a small, light washcloth) ...wrap it between a couple of fingers (so you don't have to grip it hard).
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
He was a sports medicine guy....which made it worse IMO. The PT he referred me to is at the local hospital(small) that I work at.IvanKaramazov said:
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I wear a backwards mesh hat....it is breathable and yet holds in the sweat.
Headband...and I make sure to apply plenty of sunscreen to avoid the white stripe.
Dexter
Footballguy
Thanks all for the suggestions I sweat a lot... and I mean A LOT! I also run in UA heat gear so while I do use it to wipe my eyes any run longer than 3 miles and it's useless. Maybe I'll looking into a small dry towel and stick it in my shorts
Also 2Y2B I talked to 3D today and they said if the beach is closed the swim is still on they will just move to the pool. Lets plan on meeting up. :highfive:
Also 2Y2B I talked to 3D today and they said if the beach is closed the swim is still on they will just move to the pool. Lets plan on meeting up. :highfive:
gruecd
Footballguy
You and me both, brother!
Solid HTFU run for me tonight. Got home from work and I was tired, it was hot outside, blah, blah, blah. Dragged my butt out into the heat, started out slow, and ended up having a really nice run. 13 miles at 8:14 average pace with temps in the 80s pretty much the whole way. Shorts were soaked by mile 4. Carried a 20-oz handheld with Gatorade Endurance that I stopped and refilled with water around mile 8. Also took a Gu just after mile 6. I totally expected to fade towards the end, but I actually felt really strong the last 4-5 miles, with the last mile being my fastest at 7:53.Anyway, that makes it 40 miles in the last 3 days (16 + 11 + 13). Just an easy 5-mile recovery run tomorrow. Time for bed. 
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Sand
Footballguy
In my last tri I actually ran with a wrist sweatband. I have the same issue with sweat stinging.If you want to get all complicated you can always get a Sweat Gutr. I have heard good things about them.
And as far as you guys who say you sweat a lot, I have a hard time thinking that anyone sweats more than I do. Lately on my (pitiful) runs I had been sweating out about 1lb/mile.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I PM you an email & call # shortly. Just got the update about there being no packet pick up on Saturday. I'm bummed as I have never been closer to a race venue, would have been nice to have my stuff the day before. If it is a pool swim, I think I may have to do it shirtless. I don't want to have to put a shirt on over the road rash.BTW, get a good running hat for the sweat. Or, if you are not a baldy like me, get a wicking visor. Are you planning on doing Autumn Colors? If so, you'll need a hat or visor for the run through the woods.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Another brick workout kicked my behind tonite. Started on the computrainer for an hour of interval work. The main feature was a 20 min dose of pain varying between 85% and 115% of threshold (300 w) over the 1st 12 min and finishing with 6 min at 102.5%. I blew up at the 12 min mark. disappointing because I've held the threshold watts over 27 min. Spending a minute around 350 after averaging 300w for 5 min just put too much hurt in the legs. HR was fine but I couldn't mentally get past the pain. This is the 3rd interval class in a row where it got the better of me. We ended with a 13 min session where I held 500+w over the last min which was a good lead in to the run.
I need some help here. My run this week was 9'21 pace and I stopped a 1/4 mile short of my goal because I was feeling a little sick. I was 3 sec/mile slower this week with a HR of 151 v. 142. Temp was mid 90's this week v. low 90's last week. Got in a tempo run, speed work, and long run over the last week. Actually my bigest mileage week of the year and came into today on 2 days rest. Why am I stagnating on my brick runs?
I need some help here. My run this week was 9'21 pace and I stopped a 1/4 mile short of my goal because I was feeling a little sick. I was 3 sec/mile slower this week with a HR of 151 v. 142. Temp was mid 90's this week v. low 90's last week. Got in a tempo run, speed work, and long run over the last week. Actually my bigest mileage week of the year and came into today on 2 days rest. Why am I stagnating on my brick runs?
FUBAR
Footballguy
I understand that if you just stop drinking, you'll stop sweating.
I usually just deal with it, wipe it off with my shirt but sometimes I wear a white lightweight cap.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
http://dailytriathlon.com/?p=690
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The Swim-Bike BrickJune 21, 2010By Jasmine OeinckWe all know triathlon is swim, bike, and run – but many triathlon training plans put an emphasis on the bike to run transition with long bricks scattered throughout a monthly/ yearly training plan. More times then not, the swim to bike transition is overlooked.With the swim-bike brick, you are training your body to adapt to the physiological changes that occur when you change from a horizontal position to a vertical position. The body works differently during a swim then it does during a bike, so it’s a great idea to train in a manner that makes the body more efficient in the transition between swimming and biking.The basics of the swim-bike brickJust as a bike-run brick, the swim-bike brick (which I am going to refer to as the aqua brick) should be a key session of the day. There would be no reason to go for a quality run after an aqua-brick, or blasting yourself with a track session before an aqua-brick. Every aqua brick that I have ever done has been an intense and quality session – definitely use these to get some big bang for your buck.When deciding how to set up your aqua brick, first consider the type of racing that you do. If it is a short course distance, the intensity will be a bit higher, with short swim/bike sessions, but multiple reps. (note: this implemnted once in a while for you long coursers out there could be extremely beneficial). A typical aqua brick for me in the past has been 3 rounds of 400 swim(race specific paces), immediately jumping out of the pool, running to a set up bike on a trainer, and then riding 10-15 min worth of race specific intervals. There is typically three-four minutes between each set, and man, is it a solid workout.If longer racing is more your style, I would recommend just simply going for a ride after a swim session. I wouldn’t worry about throwing intervals into your ride, and probably cap the total ride time to two hours. You aren’t looking to get the Ironman race-simulation as far as total time, you are just trying to teach the body to go from swim to bike. A two hour ride that follows a solid swim session will be a killer and quality workout for the long course distance. Aqua bricks seem to work really well for a Saturday training solution- plan accordingly and bring everything you will need for a bike ride after the swim- i.e. bike, bike gear, and the proper nutrition that will allow your body to recover from the swim, as well as, prepping it for your long ride. I would recommend leaving no later than an hour after your swim, and idealy, try not to mosey between the two sports to maximize the training effect. Remember, just as the bike- run brick is typically a workout that you don’t do everyday, the same would apply to the aqua brick. Keep in mind that you still want to have quality swim sessions and quality bike rides independent of one another, and while the aqua bricks are quality, they are workouts structured to teach your body how to respond while tired and taxed. (Race simulation). Aqua bricks should stay to only one session a week AT MOST. It’s best to talk to your coach or mentor about implementing aqua bricks into your schedule. *Always remember that after a quality session like an aqua brick, get the proper post workout nutrition AND recovery, to ensure that all of the work you just put in will come out on race day. Now that you have the basic knowledge of an ‘aqua’ brick, test it out and see what you think. It’s difficult at first, but through time you will find yourself looking forward to a hard day -complete with the aqua brick. Challenges, as well as looking for ways to improve and test physical and mental limits, are not foreign concepts. I mean, after all, you are a triathlete.2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Finally got the chance to pull down Sunday's ride off the Garmin. When I plotted the mileage I did get in, the ride put me at more mileage for 2010, than all of the miles I did in 2009. If (WHEN) I race on Sunday, that ride will put me right at 800 miles for this year. Also got to watch the ride virtually via Garmin Connect. No surprise, my heart rate spiked by about 25 BPM at the time of the crash.
BNB, saw your question about bonking during the run portion of your bricks. Could it be as simple as the fact that you are doing the bike portion too hard, leaving nothing left for the run? I've never tried them, but I know folks that do reverse bricks as a change of pace (and for duathlon training). Maybe give one of these a whirl and see if it renders better results.
BNB, saw your question about bonking during the run portion of your bricks. Could it be as simple as the fact that you are doing the bike portion too hard, leaving nothing left for the run? I've never tried them, but I know folks that do reverse bricks as a change of pace (and for duathlon training). Maybe give one of these a whirl and see if it renders better results.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Maybe you just discovered a new zone 5 training technique.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
BnB, thanks for posting this ...and thanks a lot for responding to my PM about my challenges on the bike leg. In this article, I would have liked to have seen the author comment further on the highlighted points. But the overall point is well taken - aqua bricks as well as standard bike/run bricks. NOW I start thinking about that.
I did have a productive 3 hour swim/bike/run workout a month ago, so I haven't completely ignored this (and therefore still feel like Sunday's early problems were with the weather conditions). Regarding the run struggles: A key for me, when I'm tired on a run (which of course includes the run leg of a brick or race), is strong breathing - the strong exhale I've mentioned, setting up a natural, full inhale. Coming off the bike, I carry this a step further to ensure strong breathing and to support a moderate, but steady, cadence. Normally, I breath in/out every left step (call it every second step). Off the bike, I deliberately breath every third step (so it alternates between the left foot strike and then a right foot strike). It's a bit unnatural because it's a slower pattern and, therefore, a deeper breathing pattern. But it serves to (a) keep my pace under control (I can't run fast doing this), and (b) ensures the strong breathing that's necessary. I know, I know ...possibly too much info.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I am not so sure it was worth the calorie burn.
wraith5
Footballguy
If this is the only data point, I wouldn't call your brick runs stagnated. It could have been that you worked harder on the bike portion of the brick this time, or it was more humid, or you didn't get as much sleep, or didn't eat as well, or... you just had an OK run day. Keep after it. I have found I bounce back well after challening workouts.BassNBrew said:
The_Man
Footballguy
I was interested to read in Higdon's marathon book that the better shape you're in, the more you sweat. It means you've conditioned your body to utilize its natural cooling mechanism more effectively.I was glad to read that, as I sweat a ton more now than I ever used to. I had been thinking it was another by-product of my increasing age, along with the outcropping of back hair that has me resembling a guy in a gorilla suit more and more each day.Injury update: actually had a good visit with my general practitioner, who is a runner. Definitely have a Baker cyst behind my knee, resulting from some irritation I've done to my knee/leg. The fluid is produced by the irritation and its collection into a cyst is a symptom of that irritation, rather than a cause of anything. Following her advice I've been icing, taking 800 mg of Advil x 3 daily, and not running. Got the go-ahead to do a mile this a.m. and it went well. No pain, just a little tightness, and no soreness since. Will do 2 tomorrow, 2 on Saturday, and 4 on Sunday if all goes well.If I handle that, then I'm on track to start my Higdon 18-week marathon training next week. I have to say I'm a little worried about being banged up before even starting, but not much I can do about it now. I've also committed myself to following his Intermediate I program to the letter. Up until about two weeks ago, I was thinking it seemed a little light on mileage (especially to start) and that I would do a modified Intermediate I/II. Suddenly, I'm wondering if I can even get through Week 1 of the easier plan. Just going to take it easy and worry more about being healthy than about goal times for my first marathon.Sand said:
wraith5
Footballguy
Some good news The_Man - slow & steady back into the routine!
Decided at the last minute today to hit the pool again, this time decked out in my wetsuit (rainy day = less people for adult swim to stare and point!).
I love swimming in that thing! I did 1800 meters total, with an 800 in 15:58. If I did the math correctly, that equates to a 14:38 800 yard swim, which is way faster than I've ever done sans-suit (no surprise, but it's nice to see). I could feel my legs were in a much better position most of the time, even if I wasn't actively thinking about kicking.
So I won't get an OWS in before Sunday, but at least I got into the wetsuit to get comfortable with that.
One interesting sidenote - I decided to time myself climbing out of my wetsuit immediately after my last lap, and I was cruising until I got to taking my 2nd leg out. At that point (20 seconds out of the water), I got really light-headed and almost fell over. It took a good 10 seconds or more just to get the suit off my right ankle. So that's actually good to know coming out of the water, so I can plan for it and not push too fast. I may also just sit down in T1 to pull the thing off and put on my bike shoes (and socks - i can't go without the socks).
Decided at the last minute today to hit the pool again, this time decked out in my wetsuit (rainy day = less people for adult swim to stare and point!).
I love swimming in that thing! I did 1800 meters total, with an 800 in 15:58. If I did the math correctly, that equates to a 14:38 800 yard swim, which is way faster than I've ever done sans-suit (no surprise, but it's nice to see). I could feel my legs were in a much better position most of the time, even if I wasn't actively thinking about kicking.
So I won't get an OWS in before Sunday, but at least I got into the wetsuit to get comfortable with that.
One interesting sidenote - I decided to time myself climbing out of my wetsuit immediately after my last lap, and I was cruising until I got to taking my 2nd leg out. At that point (20 seconds out of the water), I got really light-headed and almost fell over. It took a good 10 seconds or more just to get the suit off my right ankle. So that's actually good to know coming out of the water, so I can plan for it and not push too fast. I may also just sit down in T1 to pull the thing off and put on my bike shoes (and socks - i can't go without the socks).
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
You could try getting off the wetsuit this way. Kidding, Tony is a stud triathlete. I have personally seen the guy do the flying mount in to both shoes at the same time. Not to freak you out, but are you sure the water temp will allow for the wetsuit? Also, if it was stuck on your leg, you were probably being a bit too gentle. Step on it and get it off, you won't hurt it. Excited for you this weekend! Should be awesome and, as I said before, makes it very fun on Monday to answer the question "what did you do this weekend?"
tri-man 47
Footballguy
No, don't plan on that! When standing, you have good leverage to step on the part that's off and lift your leg out (or if stuck, bend down and push it off your ankle/heel). When sitting (I learned the hard way), you don't have that leverage. You can kneel quickly to pull on socks and shoes. Also, don't plan on taking time in transition to drink or, certainly, to eat. You should wait anyway after the swim, and better to do that while in motion.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Just an fyi...the difference in time between 4th and 1st in my cat at my last event was less than the time it takes to put on socks. The difference between 4th and podium was less than the time it takes to tie two shoe laces. You can go without the socks. I used to think the same thing. Truth is that when you're pushing lacate threshold you won't notice whether or not you have socks on.
gruecd
Footballguy
Don't they have wetsuit strippers? They had people doing that at High Cliff, and it was awesome. They had mats on the ground just before T1, and the athletes would just plop down on their backs, the volunteers would grab the wetsuits and pull 'em off, and the athletes would pop up and be on their way. Pretty neat lil perk.
wraith5
Footballguy
Just got this email 15 minutes ago: "As of 6/23, the water temperature is 78 degrees. Wet suits are allowable but NOT recommended." Not sure what to do - the wetsuit made me faster in the water, and I think it will make me more comfortable with all those people around me. I am freaked out at the idea of being run over or having someone intentionally grabbing my ankle. Interestingly, regarding the bike the email also said, "Drafting is legal, but not recommended." WTH?? I can see the point of not sitting down in T1, but I've never gone without socks, and I'm not sure I can do that, at least for this race (having never tried it). I've had blister issues in the past and I don't want to deal with that on the run (or the aftermath next week).
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Check the fine print. I believe there's a temp threshold where they are allowed but you're not eligible for a finish result.If anyone messes with you on the swim, switch to breast stroke and give them a couple of swift kicks.I have very soft feet. The place where you'll get a blister is on the outside of your toe. It won't mess up your training next week once you have socks back on. For a sprint you won't have enough time for a blister to even be noticed.
Darrinll40
Footballguy
Went out for 3.5 yesterday in the heat and started out too fast. After 2.2ish I had to stop and walk. After walking a couple of tenths I decided to us the run as an opportunity to restart interval training. There are 19 cross streets so I divided them up in two street intervals. I ran flat out for two streets, then walked two.
Tomorrow I am going out to try again. I plan on not having to stop and walk.
Tomorrow I am going out to try again. I plan on not having to stop and walk.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
78 to 84 degrees is legal, but you can't claim an award according to USAT Rules. However, if they are allowing drafting, well, then they are not following USAT rules. Wraith, as well trained as you are, you can deal with the heat. I would wear the wetsuit. If you feel yourself overheating, pull on the neck of the suit at let in some water. You'll think you are flooding the suit, but trust me, you are not, and this will cool the body nicely.
wraith5
Footballguy
Just confirmed with the race director that wearing/not wearing the wet suit will not affect my middle-of-the-pack finish
- the recommendation is based only on comfort/water temp. My plan is to wear it, even if I end up being the only guy out there doing so (Hell, I bought the damned thing, I should wear it if I can!!) On a 14 minute swim I can't imagine overheating in a farmer john suit. Funny you mention pulling on the neck - I did that in the pool (I read somewhere that you're supposed to do that to get past the shock of the water temp before the race) and it was a very odd sensation. I'll try to remember to do that if need be!2 other apparent non-USAT items for this race: they allow a "helper" in the transition area (tri-man, paging tri-man...) and they allow headphones on the run course.
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gruecd
Footballguy
Ewwwww.
Seriously, dude. Wax that ####, or shave it, but.--------------------------
Just back from a 5-mile recovery run in the heat and humidity. Brutal. In fact, it's making me sweat just thinking about it. Running club meeting tonight. Ciao!
gruecd
Footballguy
Wait, I think in the description it says that it's 8-speed. Somebody (culdeus, I think) said back in April that that's bad, right??
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Poppa
Footballguy
Bandanna in your waistband'll simply collect the sweat from yer belly. I carry a bandanna ('towel' too course (and too heavy) for constant eye use...) wrapped/draped over the inside of my right, stick-carryin'-hand's ring finger...Palm up, fingers spread, holding bandanna at one corner gently 'fold' over yer ring finger...(of whatever hand you'll carry it in!)...not twisted or jammed...and 'grab/pull' down tight to the base of your fingers. Now with palm down/sideways and in natural loose running form - the natural carry of the hand with curved fingers allows the bandanna to stay in place - with the ends trailing down outta the way beneath the hands. Also allows use of your other fingers and thumb to grab at stuff - cup o' water, open a pack o' GU, adjust the package, etc...
Comes time to dry eyes, simply lift both hands to your eyes for a moment, take a trailing end (of the two) for a quick eye and brow wipe.
Resume run...
Race director of Indian/Celina Challenge sent this link to all - written by a fella (blogger) who ran the Half.
Poppa's picture is the last of the blog post, if you're curious...
2Y2BB - Glad to hear you're still on two feet...
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Great link and read Poppa.Can you provide some insight on this statement...Bandanna in your waistband'll simply collect the sweat from yer belly. I carry a bandanna ('towel' too course (and too heavy) for constant eye use...) wrapped/draped over the inside of my right, stick-carryin'-hand's ring finger...Palm up, fingers spread, holding bandanna at one corner gently 'fold' over yer ring finger...(of whatever hand you'll carry it in!)...not twisted or jammed...and 'grab/pull' down tight to the base of your fingers. Now with palm down/sideways and in natural loose running form - the natural carry of the hand with curved fingers allows the bandanna to stay in place - with the ends trailing down outta the way beneath the hands. Also allows use of your other fingers and thumb to grab at stuff - cup o' water, open a pack o' GU, adjust the package, etc...
Comes time to dry eyes, simply lift both hands to your eyes for a moment, take a trailing end (of the two) for a quick eye and brow wipe.
Resume run...
Race director of Indian/Celina Challenge sent this link to all - written by a fella (blogger) who ran the Half.
Poppa's picture is the last of the blog post, if you're curious...
2Y2BB - Glad to hear you're still on two feet...
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The elevation gain for one loop around this course is somewhere between 3000 and 4000 feet. Garmin devices tend to skew this number but more simply said, one lap around this course would get you half way up the Barr Trail at Pikes Peak.Poppa
Footballguy
'Fraid I can't! These are things I don't understand...Don't have a Garmin - wouldn't have the slightest idea what to do with one! Course was hilly, lots of up and down, but frankly didn't seem as hilly as others I've done - with the codicil that perhaps because I go so slowly...I simply don't notice.Great link and read Poppa.Can you provide some insight on this statement...Bandanna in your waistband'll simply collect the sweat from yer belly. I carry a bandanna ('towel' too course (and too heavy) for constant eye use...) wrapped/draped over the inside of my right, stick-carryin'-hand's ring finger...Palm up, fingers spread, holding bandanna at one corner gently 'fold' over yer ring finger...(of whatever hand you'll carry it in!)...not twisted or jammed...and 'grab/pull' down tight to the base of your fingers. Now with palm down/sideways and in natural loose running form - the natural carry of the hand with curved fingers allows the bandanna to stay in place - with the ends trailing down outta the way beneath the hands. Also allows use of your other fingers and thumb to grab at stuff - cup o' water, open a pack o' GU, adjust the package, etc...
Comes time to dry eyes, simply lift both hands to your eyes for a moment, take a trailing end (of the two) for a quick eye and brow wipe.
Resume run...
Race director of Indian/Celina Challenge sent this link to all - written by a fella (blogger) who ran the Half.
Poppa's picture is the last of the blog post, if you're curious...
2Y2BB - Glad to hear you're still on two feet...
The elevation gain for one loop around this course is somewhere between 3000 and 4000 feet. Garmin devices tend to skew this number but more simply said, one lap around this course would get you half way up the Barr Trail at Pikes Peak.The Blue Ridge Parkway marathon doesn't have that much climbing and it features a net elevation gain. http://blueridgeparkwaymarathon.com/ AT 3500 ft with no flat sections you would have a 10% average grade for 6.55 miles and then the same grade down. 1300 ft over a half would be brutal. The marathon would equate to going 60% of the way up Mt. Everest and then back down in a day.
Maybe this link will help?
Sand
Footballguy
You don't want this. You want something with at least 9 speeds and with STI shifters (like this one).
Don't know how long this deal has been going on, but for those looking for a new wetsuit Xterra has had their entry level Volt on sale for $99 for soemtime which is a decent deal in itself, but if you use code TRIFUEL for the next level Vortex suits you can get the Vortex shortsleeve for $129, that's 5mm thick suit and is not too bad a deal for a suit of that caliber, just an fyi for those looking around at this time, got my medium long vortex in transit right now!
Sand
Footballguy
Good luck on the recovery! Slow and steady.On my end I finally felt good enough to start doing stuff again. Considering my long record of awful runs I decided I would reclaim some confidence with a dreadmill run. 5 miles - started at 8:30/mile and dropped it down to 7:30 by the end. Felt pretty good and never got over 160 HR.Finished off the evening with a 3000yd swim.
gruecd
Footballguy
Thanks, Sand. Is that the specific bike that you'd recommend in that particular price range?
wraith5
Footballguy
Poppa's correct - I had my hand towel on the right side of my waistband on Saturday, and after a few miles when my left side was soaked, the towel had soaked up everything on the right. Kind of defeated the purpose. Poppa - that picture, and his comments, are really very cool. Thank you for sharing them with us!Bandanna in your waistband'll simply collect the sweat from yer belly. Race director of Indian/Celina Challenge sent this link to all - written by a fella (blogger) who ran the Half.
Poppa's picture is the last of the blog post, if you're curious...
Sand
Footballguy
That is the lowest price I've seen (other than used) for something with decent shifters. Do you know the size you need? If not I recommend heading over to wrenchscience.com and plug in some measurements to find what will fit you (that is the most important thing). That is the place to start.To be honest I see (at least here) a good number of pretty large frame bikes on Craigslist.
gruecd
Footballguy
Probably a 62cm.I'd love any recommendations you can make!
