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Ran a 10k in June (7 Viewers)

Sand, I know you read up on this stuff a ton. What kind of benefits will a sprint speed suit give over a standard tri suit? There must be something there as IM 70.3 has contemplated banning them.
I figure you are talking about the swim suits that have been banned for all FINRA swimming meets (Phelps et. al.). In non-wetsuit swims those would likely be a pretty big advantage, thought I wouldn't want to bike/run in one. I think they are just following the swimming bans.I know they just banned any wetsuit with rubber thicker than 5mm. The vast majority were under that, but some were being made over that (De Soto Water Rover) and they went ahead and nipped that in the bud.
Let's agree to buy 2Young an inflatable raft so that he doesn't have to get wet at all. :unsure:
WRONG! I am looking to NOT wear a wetsuit. This is what I am talking about. Like Wraith mentioned, I think I saw something on these being outlawed at some point and am not sure if this is the type. It has a funky scale to the black part of the suit. I loved the sprint I did without a wetsuit, in my trt suit and wonder if I'll see some speed benefits in this thingy.
 
July Totals

Run - 64.5 miles, 9 hours; new record by 11 miles

Bike - 123.5 miles, 6 hours; no good. included a long ride of 37 miles, but everything else was intervals and races.

Swim - 9000 yards, roughly 3.3 hr; mostly open water

Weight/core - 4.8 hours

11 off days :jawdrop:

Weighed in at 216 July 1, closed out the month at 206.

Well this is an eye opener. The runs and swim are close to what i would like to see, but the biking is lagging. The number of off days is a problem. some have been weather related and several race related, but I'm stuggling with soreness. I can't get motivated for piddling junk miles and I can't stand mornings. I don't see this improving in august as i already have taken two days off this week and still have severe quad soreness.

 
New lid I'll be rocking on Sunday.

Big sprint tri event on slate for Sunday. Currently sitting in sixth place in the series season overall standings in my division. They only score your best 4 events and all five in front of me have 4 in que while i have 3. A decent placing should move me into first and a strong showing might be a good enough season total to stand pat on.

 
Hmmm... that's kind of what I read from that article- not that the race was off, but that all parties outside of him had cut ties with it. Not sure exactly what that means in terms of street closures, police help, etc. You might still get a race out of this- but maybe a mess of a race.
Like I said before, there's no way you can have the race without securing the necessary permit(s) from the city, police support, etc. Impossible.I hope he's telling you the truth, Darrin, but I wouldn't trust this guy. Sounds shady to me....
well as I said, I already paid for the plane tickets. Packing running clothes won't really hurt anything. If it goes off I will be ready.
 
***********Upate**************

Got another email from Dean.

Thanks for your support but I saw a derogatory e-mail you put on the Journal & Courier site. Why don't you inspire other runners to contact the Mayors in support of the event? They agreed to do it back in the fall and reiterated in June and even took our money for police. They are two-faced and need to be exposed.

Jo Wade is totally off base. The CVB tried to "steal" the race, threatened to sue me, but at the end of the day were informed by their attorney they had no case as we "own" the race, the name and trademark (YES - we own the name "Home of Purdue Half Marathon"!) but couldn't leave well enough alone. The real story is the CVB - what are they doing to generate tourism and economic impact in the market? Trying to stop an event that could have 3-5,000 runners in a few years and even more?

The CVB, the Mayors and Purdue are gutless. We are receiving letters of support and more than one nearby community has invited us to bring the event there.

Bottom line - there will be a "Home of Purdue Half Marathon" October 24 and we plan to have it on an annual basis. Let people say what they will, but I have been in this business for 35 years and you talk to the many friends and supporters I have across the country, we will make this happen - go to the bank on it!

Thanks!

Dean
As I said in an earlier post. I am still making the trip, and if there is a race nearby I may run it. At least I can see family and friends. Plus nothing is stopping me from just going out on the 24th and running a long run. The Daytona Half is still the next week.I found this message board. Seems lots of people have had similar experiences.

 
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Pretty good run for me last night. I got in my 14 miles. It was a little hot, but not as humid. I was still soaked when I got back, but I felt pretty good throughout the run.

Funny thing happened though. I run through neighborhoods so all sorts of things happen or are seen throughout my runs. Last night when I was coming back I felt something fly and stick on my leg. I thought it was a good sized bug and since it was dark, I really could not tell what it was. I swiped across the back of my leg and thought I got it, but could still feel it after a bit. I reached down and swiped a bit harder and all I felt was a big gooey mess. I had no idea what it was and feared the worse. I had somehting dark all over my hand and calf. It was no bug. i ran up to the next stop light and it was all brown. I thought I had stepped in some dog droppings (thinking it was karma getting back at me for dumping in the lady's flower bed last week). I smelled it and it was chocolate (no I did not taste it). As far as I can tell I stepped on a candy bar that had been in the heat all day with my left foot and it shot out at my right calf. I was relieved, but by the time I got back home it was running down my leg. I did not really have anything to wipe it off with.

I hope this is not a new trend where I come in here on Fridays and let everyone have a good laugh at my expense.

Well I have another 11 tonight, 6 tomorrow and 20 on Sunday. Have a great weekend everyone.

 
Saw the hand surgeon yesterday. Good news, I can keep racing until he figures out what is going on as long as I can stand the pain :shrug: Bad news, he suspects some kind of nerve issue and has me set up for an EMG test & MRI next week. He said breaks are MUCH easier to diagnose and treat compared to issues like this. He and I talked KT Tape and he does like its benefits and showed me how to tape the hand. I have a few samples and am going to use it for tomorrow's triathlon.

 
I am a HUGE proponent of the "don't try anything new on race day" mantra, but am thinking of doing just that on Saturday. I am signed up to do a short sprint (500 yd swim, 10 mile bike & 5K run) and want to test out a Zoot sprint suit I eBayed. The plan was to do a few OWS with the suit after the HIM, but the hand injury has slowed me down (I see the surgeon this afternoon). The plan is to not push it Saturday anyway. I have been way sporadic in my training and want to try the suit before sprints in late August & September. I have a regular Zoot tri suit the same size that I have raced in, so it won't be totally foreign and I am dying to see what the suit will do in the water without a wetsuit. Thoughts?

Sand, I know you read up on this stuff a ton. What kind of benefits will a sprint speed suit give over a standard tri suit? There must be something there as IM 70.3 has contemplated banning them.

The alternative to the speed suit was going to be to just do the whole thing in a Speedo to prank my wife a bit. Her family lives over that way and a few of them are going to show up to watch. I think she would have been mortified to see me race in the Speedo (with the 2XUs of course) and I'd like her to speak to me after, so I canned the idea.
I missed that you did your 1/2- nice! Would love to hear/read about it.Definitely my favorite distance... no faking it, and the shortest percentage of swim of the races. Funny how when I was fit, an olympic somehow seemed easy to "fake". :shrug: Nowadays... not so much.
The HIM race report is back on page 362 (thanks for asking!!!). Here are some highlights leading up to it and from the race:Got wrecked by a guy running a stop sign on Father's Day while out training (less than 3 weeks before the HIM).

Decided to test things a week later and won my AG in a Sprint

Had to skip a good bit of training the last 2 weeks leading up to the HIM, but did it and had a great swim (38 minutes) & bike (averaged 19.9 MPH). The first few miles of the run were great, but then the injury to my hand from the crash flared and my hand swelled up huge, part of the arm went numb and it felt like a dagger was being driven in to the hand. It was hotter than hell too and it made it very tough to run. BUT, there was no way I wasn't going to finish. I am very proud to have done it, will do another and owe you a ton of thanks for all the help over the years. I still use advice you gave me before I did my 1st tri!!!!

 
I am a HUGE proponent of the "don't try anything new on race day" mantra, but am thinking of doing just that on Saturday. I am signed up to do a short sprint (500 yd swim, 10 mile bike & 5K run) and want to test out a Zoot sprint suit I eBayed. The plan was to do a few OWS with the suit after the HIM, but the hand injury has slowed me down (I see the surgeon this afternoon). The plan is to not push it Saturday anyway. I have been way sporadic in my training and want to try the suit before sprints in late August & September. I have a regular Zoot tri suit the same size that I have raced in, so it won't be totally foreign and I am dying to see what the suit will do in the water without a wetsuit. Thoughts?

Sand, I know you read up on this stuff a ton. What kind of benefits will a sprint speed suit give over a standard tri suit? There must be something there as IM 70.3 has contemplated banning them.

The alternative to the speed suit was going to be to just do the whole thing in a Speedo to prank my wife a bit. Her family lives over that way and a few of them are going to show up to watch. I think she would have been mortified to see me race in the Speedo (with the 2XUs of course) and I'd like her to speak to me after, so I canned the idea.
I missed that you did your 1/2- nice! Would love to hear/read about it.Definitely my favorite distance... no faking it, and the shortest percentage of swim of the races. Funny how when I was fit, an olympic somehow seemed easy to "fake". :) Nowadays... not so much.
The HIM race report is back on page 362 (thanks for asking!!!). Here are some highlights leading up to it and from the race:Got wrecked by a guy running a stop sign on Father's Day while out training (less than 3 weeks before the HIM).

Decided to test things a week later and won my AG in a Sprint

Had to skip a good bit of training the last 2 weeks leading up to the HIM, but did it and had a great swim (38 minutes) & bike (averaged 19.9 MPH). The first few miles of the run were great, but then the injury to my hand from the crash flared and my hand swelled up huge, part of the arm went numb and it felt like a dagger was being driven in to the hand. It was hotter than hell too and it made it very tough to run. BUT, there was no way I wasn't going to finish. I am very proud to have done it, will do another and owe you a ton of thanks for all the help over the years. I still use advice you gave me before I did my 1st tri!!!!
wow... amazing you got it done given the hand- especially the swim and gutting out the run. incredible work, gb!
 
G'morning, everybody.

Yesterday was one of those days where I really just didn't feel like running. Had 10 on the schedule, and I kept on putting it off until I finally got out there a little after 7:30. Felt like schit the first few miles, but things gradually got better, and I started really feeling good around mile #7. I knew going in that my legs weren't sufficiently recovered from Sunday to do the tempo miles that were scheduled, but I did end up with a nice progression run, managing a 1:12 negative split and hitting the last mile in 7:33.

Gonna do an easy 5-mile recovery run over lunch today, then hoping to hit the road by 5:30-6:00 tomorrow for my 20.

pmb - Yeah, we're definitely in the guts of the Pfitz programs right now. I've had double-digit runs every other day this week; it went 7, 12, 5, 10, 5, and 20. The OCD part of me wants to do 21 tomorrow just to make it an even 60 miles for the week! ;)

2Young - Glad you got the green light to race. Keeping my fingers crossed that it's nothing serious.

wraith - Good luck on Sunday!!!!!!!!!!! :goodposting:

 
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Wraith: Awesome to see that much improvement!!

2Young: Mixed news about your hand, but great that you get to race. Can't wait to hear your critique of the tape.

EF: You are back! Now get your butt out for another run.

BnB: 11 days off isn't all that bad. You have been training pretty intensely for a long time. Your legs are probably happy with you right now. Also awesome that you lost 10 pounds in the process.

Darrin: Fingers crossed related to your race.

pmBrown: mmmmmmm. Chocolate!

Tri-Man: I am also thinking of going to a minimalist shoe for at least a portion of my training, but just haven't been able to pull the string yet.

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I'm still a lazy slug. Finished the trek from WI to TX last night, and fully intended to get a run in this morning. My friends took me out for a beer, and I didn't get home until 10:30. I still hadn't put laces in my shoes from my sister's dog eating them, and didn't have the motivation to put them in prior to going to bed. Instead, I turned off my alarm, and slept in (all they way until 7:00!!!). I might be able to get a short run in tonight.

I have a small race tomorrow. It's a 65 mile bike ride, then a float down the river. I'm doing this with a buddy who has never ridden in a pace line, and who most likely won't be able to average more than 17 MPH. Thus, it's going to just be a long, easy ride with good company, followed by swilling some beer while floating. Not a bad day!

 
Six miles in muggy twilight conditions last night at 8:15 pace. Another 5K loop this evening and a 13 mile run scheduled for Sunday AM. I'mg oing to do a loop that stops at home at the halfway point so I can drink some gatorade and hopefully avoid the fatigue factor that hit me in last weekend's 12 mile run.

 
pmb - Yeah, we're definitely in the guts of the Pfitz programs right now. I've had double-digit runs every other day this week; it went 7, 12, 5, 10, 5, and 20. The OCD part of me wants to do 21 tomorrow just to make it an even 60 miles for the week! :goodposting:
Definitely feeling the miles as my legs are always in that good ache zone. Never feeling completely fresh, but never really that bad that I can't run. It is strange for people that I really look forward to most runs in the 10-12 mile range.
pmBrown: mmmmmmm. Chocolate!
I was more thinking "I hope that there are no loose dogs (or hungry fat ladies) out that I will have to out run because I am covered in chocolate."Wraith - Good luck racing this weekend.

 
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Tried out a friend's loaner wetsuit at the pool over lunch.

w/o wetsuit - 500 m 13 min

w/ wetuit - 500 m 10.4 min

:goodposting:

Problem was it took me two minutes to get the damn thing off. Will have to get some PAM spray.

 
Tried out a friend's loaner wetsuit at the pool over lunch.w/o wetsuit - 500 m 13 minw/ wetuit - 500 m 10.4 min:lmao:Problem was it took me two minutes to get the damn thing off. Will have to get some PAM spray.
I have yet to try mine, and still can't get it on by myself. Can't wait to give it a try though!
 
Went to the doc again today for a 3 week follow-up and lost 5 more pounds. That put me at 235 fully clothed with shoes plus keys and wallet. It is going slow, but I am making progress. Going for 6 tomorrow morning.

 
Best wishes to the weekend racers!!! BnB, Wraith, 2Young ...do well!

(Hope I didn't miss anyone.)

Walk/jog for me again ...got up to a mile on one of my segments, so it continues to be encouraging for my sore calf.

 
tri-man 47 said:
Best wishes to the weekend racers!!! BnB, Wraith, 2Young ...do well!

(Hope I didn't miss anyone.)

Walk/jog for me again ...got up to a mile on one of my segments, so it continues to be encouraging for my sore calf.
..and Liquors!!!!
 
Good luck to BnB, PSL, and 2Y!!!

6 mile run this morning, 8:19s front 3, 8:09s back 3. Not bad, but I really have lost my speed this summer. It was 69 degrees with 72% humidity when I finished, which felt downright pleasant.

Rest tomorrow.

 
..and Liquors!!!!
:D For you, then, my friend - Chicago RnR race stalking:

[looks like you need to drop in the number ..argh]

Brunettes:

#7321

#17318

#8098 (pointed out by gruecd at beer tent; 'already got her listed')

#6491

#15294

Blondes:

#1396

#5319

#7195

#20142

#4756 (love the shaded pic - "hi!")

Was going to be a joke posting ...but he comes with candy:

12441 ..Don't know her number

Attitude:

#10765

#2647

#6632 - lol ...great!

This is what a sub-1:30:00 form looks like :lmao: :

#2091

Near cameltoe award?

#7174

Fitness award:

#3509

Meet me in the minivan award :lmao: :

#9837

 
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I got in 6 this morning. Instead of running 3 miles then starting the run/walk, I just did it for the whole run.

The first 3.3 miles I ran 6 min then walked 1. After that I walked once for 2 minutes, then ran 2 min walked 1 for the rest of the run. Last week i averaged 11:57 with the run/walk, today it was 11:24. Plus I don't feel as drained as I did after last weeks.

Tomorrow is 3.5 and I am going to try to run it all. On Tuesday I am going to try the ride/run again.

 
Got up at 6 this morning and did 3.8 miles. It was much better at 6 am then 9 am. I am guessing it was in the 80s when I ran. Had one really cool thing happen. As I was running I saw a BIG bird sitting on a chain link fence. As I got closer it just stayed there staring me down. As I got closer I saw it was a huge hawk. I got with in four feet of it. I could really see all the details. The hawk then spread his wings and took off. It was really cool.

The bad this am was that I was charged by no less then 3 dogs at separate times. I am thinking of getting some pepper spray. Has anyone done that? These dogs are really pissing me off to the point where I am either going to kick one so hard it will be permanently maimed or die. I know if I do that I will feel like an ### with in 10 seconds so I am thinking the pepper spray may be the way to go.

Good luck to all the racers.

I am heading up to Phoenix today for the Diamondbacks game. They are retiring Luis Gonzalez's number. Pretty excited about that.

 
Had a really good 20-miler this morning. Started at 6 AM and ran a little over 6 miles to meet the local marathon training group. Ran almost 9 miles with them, then ran back home, walking about a mile afterwards for a nice cool-down.

Averaged 8:06 on the run and negative split the thing by almost five minutes. Ran the front half in 1:23:27 (8:21 pace) and the back half in 1:18:35 (7:52). It was cooler this morning, but still plenty humid. Drank about 80 ounces (5 pounds) of Gatorade on the run, and still managed to lose a couple of pounds. :lmao:

Weather permitting, might bike 30 miles to my parents' place for breakfast tomorrow. We'll see how the legs feel.

Darrin & prosopis - Nice running today! :lmao:

tri-man - Such a creeper....

Hope you all have a great day!

 
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Back from vacation and didn't get any running in after the 2mi on the beach. The entire house came down with a nasty cold, me included. I'm still fighting it today, but hope to get out for a few miles tomorrow if I feel up to it. It's been bugging me all week that I haven't run, but I know I need to beat this cold first.

On the plus side, and mildly shocking, I lost 2lbs while vacationing. :kicksrock:

 
The Shermanator Sprint Triathlon Race Report

BEAUTIFUL Race Morning yesterday!!!!! 58 degrees as we pulled in to the park felt amazing compared to how things have been all summer. This was a very competitive race, as it was part of some midwest racing series.

Swim: 500 yards in 10:30 (included long run up to transition). I had a GREAT swim. My wave included the 35-49 & 40-44 age groups, 59 guys total. I ended up 8th in my AG and 10th in the wave (and only 10 seconds from top 5). I had to lay back a bit at the start. Not because I wanted to, but because the water was over my head at the start buoy :shrug: . 500 yards looked so dinky after my last swim was 1.2 miles. I blasted it from the start and swam over about 5 guys and took the inside line on the out and back course. I almost missed the turn buoy as I was shocked I was there so fast. I did some drafting on the way out, but had lost the pack by the turn and was on my own on the way in.

T1: 1:25 SLOW. A guy from the timing company came over to tell me that the compression sleeves my mean my time for the swim won't show up. I was out of sorts and thought he may have been an official giving me a penalty, etc. Anyway, our conversation cost me about 10-15 seconds.

Bike: I completely psyched myself out for the ride by driving the course the day before. Two of the roads on the out and back course we lousy, to the point that they had spay painted warnings around the potholes. Added to this was that the 45 degree turns were at the bottoms of hills (4 of them). I have to admit, I rode a bit scared and it showed. Did the ride in 31:26 or around the low end of 19 MPH.

T2: 45 seconds, a little slow, but uneventful.

Run: HILLY 5K, with a huge climb out of T2. I had plenty left after my lame ride. 23:49 was my time and I went at it pretty hard. It was all hills and included 4 good climbs. I sprinted passed 3 guys in my AG on the downhill for home and finished 2 seconds behind the guy in front of me, who was in my AG AND ended up being a fraternity brother of mine (small world).

This was some of the most fun I have had racing. I kind of went easy the whole way, no stress, etc. Ended up 14th out of 38 in my AG, and only a minute from 8. Just wish that guy hadn't talked to me in T1 and I think I'd have beat my brother by a few seconds!

 
Grue - you had a good run also. I know how tough it is in the humidity.

Tri-Man - I am right there with you. Checking out the females is one of the few reasons to go watch a running race.

I said I was going to run the whole 3.5 today, and I lied. This morning I decided to get my body used to the run /walk regimen. I did the 6/1 again this morning, and I was amazed with the results.

6 min - 10.13 m/m

6 min - 9.34

6 min - 9.23

6 min - 9.34

6 min - 9.42

1:52 - 8:43

Even with 5 walk breaks totaling 1510 ft I was able to average 10:17 for the total run. That is by far the fastest run I have had in two months. I was really surprised because I am still so fat (235 lbs - 5'11") I have no doubt that I am going to continue running this way for a while. Though once I lose another 40 pounds or so I will probably only do this for very long runs. Hell, I may even be able to motivate my self to finally do a marathon.

Anyway, my goal is to be under 200 by the end of the year. The running speed will come back as the weight falls off.

 
The Shermanator Sprint Triathlon Race Report

BEAUTIFUL Race Morning yesterday!!!!! 58 degrees as we pulled in to the park felt amazing compared to how things have been all summer. This was a very competitive race, as it was part of some midwest racing series.

Swim: 500 yards in 10:30 (included long run up to transition). I had a GREAT swim. My wave included the 35-49 & 40-44 age groups, 59 guys total. I ended up 8th in my AG and 10th in the wave (and only 10 seconds from top 5). I had to lay back a bit at the start. Not because I wanted to, but because the water was over my head at the start buoy :shrug: . 500 yards looked so dinky after my last swim was 1.2 miles. I blasted it from the start and swam over about 5 guys and took the inside line on the out and back course. I almost missed the turn buoy as I was shocked I was there so fast. I did some drafting on the way out, but had lost the pack by the turn and was on my own on the way in.

T1: 1:25 SLOW. A guy from the timing company came over to tell me that the compression sleeves my mean my time for the swim won't show up. I was out of sorts and thought he may have been an official giving me a penalty, etc. Anyway, our conversation cost me about 10-15 seconds.

Bike: I completely psyched myself out for the ride by driving the course the day before. Two of the roads on the out and back course we lousy, to the point that they had spay painted warnings around the potholes. Added to this was that the 45 degree turns were at the bottoms of hills (4 of them). I have to admit, I rode a bit scared and it showed. Did the ride in 31:26 or around the low end of 19 MPH.

T2: 45 seconds, a little slow, but uneventful.

Run: HILLY 5K, with a huge climb out of T2. I had plenty left after my lame ride. 23:49 was my time and I went at it pretty hard. It was all hills and included 4 good climbs. I sprinted passed 3 guys in my AG on the downhill for home and finished 2 seconds behind the guy in front of me, who was in my AG AND ended up being a fraternity brother of mine (small world).

This was some of the most fun I have had racing. I kind of went easy the whole way, no stress, etc. Ended up 14th out of 38 in my AG, and only a minute from 8. Just wish that guy hadn't talked to me in T1 and I think I'd have beat my brother by a few seconds!
Excellent race, though I think they make stilts that you can use in deep water :shrug: .

I hate it when street planners put turns at the bottom of hills. You were probably safer riding scared, better to waste a few minutes being careful than taking a trip in an ambulance.

Every time I have run a hilly 5K the finish has been on the upslope. It must have been nice running downhill toward the finish.

So did the compression sleeves block the timing chip?

 
Still struggling with the bad back but plowing through my marathon training anyways.

Cranked out a 15 miler (9:10 pace) first thing this AM out on the Big Creek Greenway. My back felt great until I got into the car to drive home and now I'm miserable.

 
Awesome race 2y2bb !!!!!!

:thumbup: @ I had to lay back a bit at the start. Not because I wanted to, but because the water was over my head at the start buoy.

I am short to so I know how you feel.

 
RACE REPORT

My wife and I did a half marathon in Red Wing MN this morning. For each of us, this was essentially a tune-up for Twin Cities, so neither of us was aiming for a PR. We found out the week before the race that there would be pacers, which is kind of strange for a race this small (~430 or so runners), but neither of us has ever run with a pace group before so we thought it would be fun. She opted for the 1:50 group. I went back and forth several times between 1:50, which is a little faster than I would like to run with a 20-miler coming up later in the week, and 1:55, which is a little on the easy side. I finally opted for 1:55, which turned out to be a wise decision.

Race conditions this morning were brutal, as I'm sure they were for other people racing elsewhere. At the start, it was 75 with 90% humidity. A couple of people mentioned that the dew point was 71; I don't know what that means, but from the way they said it, it was obviously bad. Anyway, we got underway and it was clear really fast that I was going to have a hard time finding the groove that I normally fall into by mile 3 or so. I was completely drenched by that point, which is where the course started to turn bad. Around the three mile mark, we switched to a gravel road that was totally exposed to the sun and uphill all the way to the turnaround. The course wasn't a true out-and-back, as it looped back to a bike trail for the return trip. This was great, since the bike trail was shaded so at least we were out of the sun.

By this midpoint of the race, our pace group had more or less disintegrated. We started out with about a dozen people in our group, but by the halfway point, we were down to just two, not including the pacer. I also caught up to Mrs. Karamazov at the turnaround. She was struggling badly with the heat and had fallen back from her 1:50 group. She ran with us for about a minute or so and then fell back further. We have an understanding that neither of us would be expected to stop/slow for the other in a situation like this, so I just kept on and talked with the pacer and the other remaining guy from our group.

At this point, the pacer actually started to lose track of her pace, and we turned in a couple of splits in the 8:15-8:25 range (8:47 was our alleged goal pace). I was feeling basically okay so I didn't say anything. At mile 11, she mentioned that we were about a minute and a half ahead of schedule, but me and the other guy were fine with that.

A little past the 11 mile marker, we passed a guy passed out under a bridge. He was being attended to by a race official, who was also calling for an ambulance. My wife said that he was foaming at the mouth when she passed him. :lmao: I'll have to check the paper tomorrow to see if he pulled through okay. After the race, there were at least two more ambulance calls, one for an infant at the finish who was having seizures, and another about 3/4 mile from the finish.

Eventually we got to the finish line. The other guy I was running with sprinted the last 100 yards. I just didn't care enough to try to match that. Plus, this was his first race of any kind, so he can have the kick. I finished up at 1:53:11 Garmin time. For me, this is a big confidence-builder for Twin Cities. If I can do 1:53 in conditions like this, a 4:00 marathon should be straightforward.

Mrs. K came in at 1:58, which she's obviously unhappy with since she's aiming for a 3:50 and a BQ. Then again, hopefully the weather will be more cooperative on October 3 than it was today.

Beer is on the agenda for the remainder of the day. :goodposting:

 
A couple of nice race reports to get us started! Congrats, 2Young / IK for your aggressive / smart racing in great / challenging conditions :goodposting: :toilet: !

 
Wraith official time: 2:47:17

He's en route to a family vacation, so I didn't think he'd mind me sharing for him. Sounds like the race went really well; he's super happy with the time.

 
RACE REPORT

My wife and I did a half marathon in Red Wing MN this morning. For each of us, this was essentially a tune-up for Twin Cities, so neither of us was aiming for a PR. We found out the week before the race that there would be pacers, which is kind of strange for a race this small (~430 or so runners), but neither of us has ever run with a pace group before so we thought it would be fun. She opted for the 1:50 group. I went back and forth several times between 1:50, which is a little faster than I would like to run with a 20-miler coming up later in the week, and 1:55, which is a little on the easy side. I finally opted for 1:55, which turned out to be a wise decision.

Race conditions this morning were brutal, as I'm sure they were for other people racing elsewhere. At the start, it was 75 with 90% humidity. A couple of people mentioned that the dew point was 71; I don't know what that means, but from the way they said it, it was obviously bad. Anyway, we got underway and it was clear really fast that I was going to have a hard time finding the groove that I normally fall into by mile 3 or so. I was completely drenched by that point, which is where the course started to turn bad. Around the three mile mark, we switched to a gravel road that was totally exposed to the sun and uphill all the way to the turnaround. The course wasn't a true out-and-back, as it looped back to a bike trail for the return trip. This was great, since the bike trail was shaded so at least we were out of the sun.

By this midpoint of the race, our pace group had more or less disintegrated. We started out with about a dozen people in our group, but by the halfway point, we were down to just two, not including the pacer. I also caught up to Mrs. Karamazov at the turnaround. She was struggling badly with the heat and had fallen back from her 1:50 group. She ran with us for about a minute or so and then fell back further. We have an understanding that neither of us would be expected to stop/slow for the other in a situation like this, so I just kept on and talked with the pacer and the other remaining guy from our group.

At this point, the pacer actually started to lose track of her pace, and we turned in a couple of splits in the 8:15-8:25 range (8:47 was our alleged goal pace). I was feeling basically okay so I didn't say anything. At mile 11, she mentioned that we were about a minute and a half ahead of schedule, but me and the other guy were fine with that.

A little past the 11 mile marker, we passed a guy passed out under a bridge. He was being attended to by a race official, who was also calling for an ambulance. My wife said that he was foaming at the mouth when she passed him. :shock: I'll have to check the paper tomorrow to see if he pulled through okay. After the race, there were at least two more ambulance calls, one for an infant at the finish who was having seizures, and another about 3/4 mile from the finish.

Eventually we got to the finish line. The other guy I was running with sprinted the last 100 yards. I just didn't care enough to try to match that. Plus, this was his first race of any kind, so he can have the kick. I finished up at 1:53:11 Garmin time. For me, this is a big confidence-builder for Twin Cities. If I can do 1:53 in conditions like this, a 4:00 marathon should be straightforward.

Mrs. K came in at 1:58, which she's obviously unhappy with since she's aiming for a 3:50 and a BQ. Then again, hopefully the weather will be more cooperative on October 3 than it was today.

Beer is on the agenda for the remainder of the day. :goodposting:
Congrats on the good run. :highfive:Scary to think about the guy foaming at the mouth. :shock:

 
RACE REPORT

My wife and I did a half marathon in Red Wing MN this morning. For each of us, this was essentially a tune-up for Twin Cities, so neither of us was aiming for a PR. We found out the week before the race that there would be pacers, which is kind of strange for a race this small (~430 or so runners), but neither of us has ever run with a pace group before so we thought it would be fun. She opted for the 1:50 group. I went back and forth several times between 1:50, which is a little faster than I would like to run with a 20-miler coming up later in the week, and 1:55, which is a little on the easy side. I finally opted for 1:55, which turned out to be a wise decision.

Race conditions this morning were brutal, as I'm sure they were for other people racing elsewhere. At the start, it was 75 with 90% humidity. A couple of people mentioned that the dew point was 71; I don't know what that means, but from the way they said it, it was obviously bad. Anyway, we got underway and it was clear really fast that I was going to have a hard time finding the groove that I normally fall into by mile 3 or so. I was completely drenched by that point, which is where the course started to turn bad. Around the three mile mark, we switched to a gravel road that was totally exposed to the sun and uphill all the way to the turnaround. The course wasn't a true out-and-back, as it looped back to a bike trail for the return trip. This was great, since the bike trail was shaded so at least we were out of the sun.

By this midpoint of the race, our pace group had more or less disintegrated. We started out with about a dozen people in our group, but by the halfway point, we were down to just two, not including the pacer. I also caught up to Mrs. Karamazov at the turnaround. She was struggling badly with the heat and had fallen back from her 1:50 group. She ran with us for about a minute or so and then fell back further. We have an understanding that neither of us would be expected to stop/slow for the other in a situation like this, so I just kept on and talked with the pacer and the other remaining guy from our group.

At this point, the pacer actually started to lose track of her pace, and we turned in a couple of splits in the 8:15-8:25 range (8:47 was our alleged goal pace). I was feeling basically okay so I didn't say anything. At mile 11, she mentioned that we were about a minute and a half ahead of schedule, but me and the other guy were fine with that.

A little past the 11 mile marker, we passed a guy passed out under a bridge. He was being attended to by a race official, who was also calling for an ambulance. My wife said that he was foaming at the mouth when she passed him. :shrug: I'll have to check the paper tomorrow to see if he pulled through okay. After the race, there were at least two more ambulance calls, one for an infant at the finish who was having seizures, and another about 3/4 mile from the finish.

Eventually we got to the finish line. The other guy I was running with sprinted the last 100 yards. I just didn't care enough to try to match that. Plus, this was his first race of any kind, so he can have the kick. I finished up at 1:53:11 Garmin time. For me, this is a big confidence-builder for Twin Cities. If I can do 1:53 in conditions like this, a 4:00 marathon should be straightforward.

Mrs. K came in at 1:58, which she's obviously unhappy with since she's aiming for a 3:50 and a BQ. Then again, hopefully the weather will be more cooperative on October 3 than it was today.

Beer is on the agenda for the remainder of the day. :thumbup:
Great Race! That heat is heading our way and the short (one day) break from it was sure nice. I continue to think that all this heat racing and training is going to pay off as things cool down in the fall!
 
Back from vacation and didn't get any running in after the 2mi on the beach. The entire house came down with a nasty cold, me included. I'm still fighting it today, but hope to get out for a few miles tomorrow if I feel up to it. It's been bugging me all week that I haven't run, but I know I need to beat this cold first. On the plus side, and mildly shocking, I lost 2lbs while vacationing. :thumbup:
Well running with a cold in the heat/humidity = :shrug:I went for an "easy" 2.5 figuring it had been 6 days since I last ran and I still felt a bit of the cold. Well, that was horrible. I couldn't breathe to save my life.
 
Wraith official time: 2:47:17

He's en route to a family vacation, so I didn't think he'd mind me sharing for him. Sounds like the race went really well; he's super happy with the time.
I hope Wraith won't mind me posting this. I went looking for his splist and found the virtual race link. This has to be the coolest tri tracking thing I have ever seen (Use Bib 409).
 
Wraith official time: 2:47:17

He's en route to a family vacation, so I didn't think he'd mind me sharing for him. Sounds like the race went really well; he's super happy with the time.
I hope Wraith won't mind me posting this. I went looking for his splist and found the virtual race link. This has to be the coolest tri tracking thing I have ever seen (Use Bib 409).
Verrrry cool! That tracking tool might be the one that a friend of mine and his brothers have been developing. I'll ask him if that's it. It'll be fun next year if wraith and I (or others, in other races) race together.
 
Wraith official time: 2:47:17

He's en route to a family vacation, so I didn't think he'd mind me sharing for him. Sounds like the race went really well; he's super happy with the time.
I hope Wraith won't mind me posting this. I went looking for his splist and found the virtual race link. This has to be the coolest tri tracking thing I have ever seen (Use Bib 409).
Verrrry cool! That tracking tool might be the one that a friend of mine and his brothers have been developing. I'll ask him if that's it. It'll be fun next year if wraith and I (or others, in other races) race together.
I've already emailed 2 local RDs asking when I can expect to watch virtual me.
 
Wraith official time: 2:47:17

He's en route to a family vacation, so I didn't think he'd mind me sharing for him. Sounds like the race went really well; he's super happy with the time.
I hope Wraith won't mind me posting this. I went looking for his splist and found the virtual race link. This has to be the coolest tri tracking thing I have ever seen (Use Bib 409).
Thanks guys! I'm up in Lake Geneva WI with my wifes family and the wireless isn't working in the townhome, so I'll do a full race report when we get that figured out. Overall I am happy with the race today. The weather was overcast and cooler which was awesome - it even rained on me a bit for the last mile! I improved on the bike and the run on a much more challenging course (lots of hills) but I finished 41/61 in my age group which isn't really where I want to be. Lots of work to do before next season! Especially if I'm going to race Tri-man... Still it's another successful Oly under my belt and a PR.

 
Congrats Wraith and BnB. Looks like two darn good races, there.

Tri-man - #7321 :rolleyes:

I haven't checked in in a bit. Went down to Gulf Shores this weekend. Great chance to play with my new Powertap. Great toy.

Thursday night - hard group ride. 27 miles. 256 watts normalized power.

Friday - Slow OWS in a very hot, very choppy black water lake - 1 mile.

Saturday - Tri group ride at the beach. 26 miles. 5 mile run that night.

Today - 18 mile point to point ride down the beach - Super hot and against the wind the whole way. Oof.

Legs are toast. Probably just an easy 3000yd swim tomorrow.

 
..and Liquors!!!!
:doh: For you, then, my friend - Chicago RnR race stalking:

[looks like you need to drop in the number ..argh]

Brunettes:

#7321

#17318

#8098 (pointed out by gruecd at beer tent; 'already got her listed')

#6491

#15294

Blondes:

#1396

#5319

#7195

#20142

#4756 (love the shaded pic - "hi!")

Was going to be a joke posting ...but he comes with candy:

12441 ..Don't know her number

Attitude:

#10765

#2647

#6632 - lol ...great!

This is what a sub-1:30:00 form looks like :wub: :

#2091

Near cameltoe award?

#7174

Fitness award:

#3509

Meet me in the minivan award :wub: :

#9837
Quality work here.

 
Great races this weekend guys. And I concur that the tracking thing in Wraith'srace is really cool.

I had a pretty eventful weekend of running:

Friday night I went out and did my 11 with an attempted 6 miles at marathon pace. I did this pretty well, but I ran out of gas for the last mile. It was not too hot, but a little humid. Mostly, I was just done with the week and needed the rest. This will be my theme for the weekend. This is why I don't like to do late night Friday runs. I am usually wiped from work and running and want to do nothing but crash on Friday night. Overall though, it was a pretty good run.

Saturday, I did an easy 6 miles in the afternoon. It was maybe in the low 80's and felt pretty good. Very low humidity.

Sunday I did 20 and it was not a bad run, but I know I felt I could have done better. I just seem to run out of gas late in my long runs. I averaged 8:55. Not great, but not awful. I think this one had to do with the heat as it was 65 when I started and 85 when I finished. That is a pretty good jump in temperature. Last week was a really good run for me so I am not worrying about this too much. I did get my miles in and ran 61 for the week.

Here is my thoughts and questions for the masses:

Usually by miles 17 or 18 is where I know I am starting to wear down considerably. Yesterday I took a gu at 17 and it did absolutely nothing for me. I took in maybe 65 oz of gatorade by that point, plus water. It was like the gu never kicked in and I did not have a good kick for the finish. I will admit when I go out for my runs in the morning, I don't eat anything before hand so this could be it too. Any thoughts or suggestions as to a different strategy for eating something during my run? Should I try and get more calories in so I have something to burn? This has been something that I have been tossing around for awhile, but I have not changed much of anything yet. I still have plenty of time to try and change something before the race in October and work out the details. I know that some of you have had to experience something like this either running or on the bike with longer runs/rides.

 
pmbrown -- I would try to eat something an hour or two before you go out to run. You'll want something easily-digestible with lots of carbs. You'll probably want to avoid anything high in fiber -- no bran muffins. Bagels with jelly work for me. My wife eats a banana with peanut butter. You're right that this is a good time to experiment so you can identify something tht works for you.

Edit: If "regular" food doesn't sound like it will sit well, you could always have a Cliff bar or something similar for breakfast.

 
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Here is my thoughts and questions for the masses:Usually by miles 17 or 18 is where I know I am starting to wear down considerably. Yesterday I took a gu at 17 and it did absolutely nothing for me. I took in maybe 65 oz of gatorade by that point, plus water. It was like the gu never kicked in and I did not have a good kick for the finish. I will admit when I go out for my runs in the morning, I don't eat anything before hand so this could be it too. Any thoughts or suggestions as to a different strategy for eating something during my run? Should I try and get more calories in so I have something to burn? This has been something that I have been tossing around for awhile, but I have not changed much of anything yet. I still have plenty of time to try and change something before the race in October and work out the details. I know that some of you have had to experience something like this either running or on the bike with longer runs/rides.
Just to give you an idea, for my 20-miler on Saturday, I got up around 5:30, had a couple pieces of whole wheat toast with peanut butter, and hit the road around 6 AM. I took Gu at miles 5, 10, and 15. Hydrated like crazy, drinking 20 oz Gatorade every 5 miles or so. Seemed to work pretty well for me.FWIW, the Gu at 17 was too late. It takes a little while to feel the effect.
 

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