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Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)
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Sand
Footballguy
Now that's a buddy for ya.
Awesome - we have Woz hooked. This thread just keeps getting better and better. 51 is just fine. You'd be MOP in the typical men's age groups. You'd be smokin the field in Tri-man's age group. Heck, I think that would probably win the women's 65-70 AG!Great race PSL! Your riding skills are quite enviable.
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On my end, I forgot my swimsuit yesterday. All I had in the bottom of my bag was my race jammers. Whoops - I guess it was time for a "fast day". When the race suit goes on the time for slow and steady goes out the window. I didn't do sprints, but did my workout at a very fast tempo pace. Since you guys get this stuff - my times:
100yd: 1:05
200yd: 2:22 (1/2 second off of a PR. If I had known I was that close I'd have sprinted.)
500yd: 6:28 (Slow end of workout swim. Still pretty decent to end with).
I'm filing that workout under "Slacking at swimming training but still evidently getting faster." Given sprints I think I could have come close to a 1 min. 100 and could have shattered that 2:22 200.
Today and tomorrow are running days. Trying to get and hold 25 miles per week for a while.
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pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Zow: Welcome to the thread! 51 minutes is awright, and absolutely average...for you. It's what you do with it from here as Tri-Man stated. Everyone in this thread has good times vs. bad times for races/training, and what's good/bad for any of us is relative ONLY to the individual. For you right now 51 minutes is average as that's the only point of data we have to evaluate you on. If you want to start training for a race or just for your personal gain, this is a great place to hangout for encouragement, and advice.
Dexter: Love that you were there for Turkish
BnB: 39 through 39 is impressive! My shot at 100 in 100 is not looking good.
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My update:
Biggest accomplishment today was getting up the stairs (one flight) to my office today. My knee is so jacked, stairs are a major suck. The great news is that the pain in my knee makes it hard to notice the pain in my calf. I'm currently at 38 workouts through 39 days even after getting three workouts in on Sunday. Keeping pace is going to be tough. I'll try to get a swim in tomorrow, and will spend a lot of time on my Total Gym trying to get some cardiovascular work in over the next two weeks. I'm hoping I can get on my bike in two weeks, and start running in three. Any more than three weeks without running, and a BQ won't likely even be a possibility this year
Dexter: Love that you were there for Turkish
BnB: 39 through 39 is impressive! My shot at 100 in 100 is not looking good.
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My update:
Biggest accomplishment today was getting up the stairs (one flight) to my office today. My knee is so jacked, stairs are a major suck. The great news is that the pain in my knee makes it hard to notice the pain in my calf. I'm currently at 38 workouts through 39 days even after getting three workouts in on Sunday. Keeping pace is going to be tough. I'll try to get a swim in tomorrow, and will spend a lot of time on my Total Gym trying to get some cardiovascular work in over the next two weeks. I'm hoping I can get on my bike in two weeks, and start running in three. Any more than three weeks without running, and a BQ won't likely even be a possibility this year
Nigel
Footballguy
I've not been around to post much so belated congrats to everyone who raced the past two weeks - some serious ### kicking going on in here. Too many awesome races to single out but tons of great, inspirational reports. 
I'm now in week 3 of Higdon's Intermediate 5K program. A big step back in mileage from the HM program I was on, but I'm stilling doing one 6-8 miler on the weekend to try to keep the distance base somewhat there. Primarily working on speed though. The race is on 12/18, goal is to break 23:00.
It's probably been linked here before but I just came across a cool site where I punched in my name and it returned results for every race I've ever run, dating back to a 1998 5-miler. Athlinks
I'm now in week 3 of Higdon's Intermediate 5K program. A big step back in mileage from the HM program I was on, but I'm stilling doing one 6-8 miler on the weekend to try to keep the distance base somewhat there. Primarily working on speed though. The race is on 12/18, goal is to break 23:00.
It's probably been linked here before but I just came across a cool site where I punched in my name and it returned results for every race I've ever run, dating back to a 1998 5-miler. Athlinks
D_House
Footballguy
Thanks for the link, it is new to me and I found some race times that I had forgotten about.
Zow
Footballguy
A new commitment in terms of it changing my workout routine? Probably not, although when I get my living situation settled I'd like to start running every morning, because I'm finding interval weight training is getting me most fit. That said, I have already signed up for another charitable 10k on Thanksgiving morning and looking forward to it. I really enjoyed the runner's high I got this past weekend.
Zow
Footballguy
Workhorse
Footballguy
Here's my LONG race report. You've been warned:
ING NYC Marathon Race Report - 11/7/10
After a decent night's sleep and the Staten Island Ferry/Bus Ride to Fort Wadsworth, I made my way to the Green Corral holding area around 6:30AM to stake out a place. Mid 30s temperature and gusty winds made sitting around a bit uncomfortable until the sun rose above the treeline. The holding area was just south of the Verrazano Bridge with a mix of paved and small grass sitting areas, amidst the various food and drink tents. I wandered past the wheelchair athletes tent and got myself some Dunkin Donuts coffee and bagels and huddled down in a grassy patch towards the ambulance parking section. I was able to spread out a couple of trash bags and set my gear bag as my pillow to catch an extra half hour of sleep. The loudspeakers were broadcasting in various languages announcing cutoff times for corrals, bag drop deadlines and No Smoking policies (obviously aimed at our International friends), etc... I spent most of the next hour speaking with runners seated around me and doing the hydrate>pee>hydrate shuffle until a woman came through our "camp" announcing that the Wave 1 bag drop was closing in 10 minutes and the Wave 1 corrals were opening in 20. Whoa. Better get moving.
I made my way into the Green section, Corral #21 about 8:30AM. Still bracing myself from the wind, sitting on the curb in the narrow corral and trying to preserve energy while many nervous runners jogged in place to keep warm. I was terrified to exert any more effort than absolutely necessary so I turtled for the next half hour and kept pretty much to myself, trying to visualize my first couple of miles. Just after 9AM, the corral lines opened up and we slowly surged towards the start line, about 50 feet every 5 minutes or so. Mother nature called one last time and in the wait to empty my bladder, I got stuck at the very back of the Green Wave 1 as we made our way to the starting line.
Gun went off promptly at 9:40 and we all snaked around the corral line to the on-ramp to the Verrazano, crossing the starting line shortly after 9:50AM.
First 5k: 25:35 (8:14 per mile pace):
I was actually pleased to be on the lower level of the bridge for the start since the incline is much less severe than the top level. The Green Wave also has a distinct advantage of having its own route for the first 5k so there's lots of room between runners and not nearly as crowded as I'd expected. In this first 5k, I made an effort to take the uphill slowly, running the first mile in approximately 8:45 pace, making up much of that time against goal in the downhill off of the bridge into Brooklyn. The wind was whipping pretty hard at this point and I felt some strong gusts in my face all the way through the Dyker Heights section of Brooklyn. Picked up some Gatorade at the Mile 3 mark and I breezed through this first 5k feeling "light and loose", which was my mantra for the first half of the race.
Second 5k: 25:23 (8:10 per mile pace):
Coming into Bay Ridge, the crowds began to fill up the sidewalks and were very enthusiastic, particularly once our Wave merged back in with the other 2 starting groups. At this point, I was very pleased with my choice to put my name on my long-sleeve running top at Niketown the day before as fans were chanting my name and giving very spirited high fives down 4th Avenue. I had easy speed through this segment even though the wind out of the North was pushing hard against us during this stretch. At mile 6, I took my first Gu and chased it with a couple of healthy swigs of Gatorade at an aid station. It's around this point that I passed the Chilean Miner, who was surrounded by two camera crews and two NYRR pacers. I yelled "Good Luck" to him and left him in the dust.
Third 5k: 25:43 (8:16 per mile pace):
Making my way into Park Slope and Prospect Heights, the crowds got thicker, the fans more energetic and more inebriated. This was a really run stretch for me since my wife was waiting at Mile 9 and cheered very loudly - A great boost heading into the relative "dead zone" as we were turning on to Bedford Street. Made a quick water stop at mile 8.
Fourth 5k: 25:42 (8:16 per mile pace):
Williamsburg to Greenpoint was pretty uneventful for me and I honestly don't remember too much about this segment other than focusing on my breathing and realizing that the crowds thinned out quite a bit, especially when we got into the Hasidic part of town. I still had tons of energy and picked up quick Gatorade hits at both miles 11 and 12.
Fifth 5k: 26:12 (8:25 per mile pace):
I stopped at Mile 13 for Gu #2 and a quick 10 second walking break to scarf down a full Gatorade cup to gain a little bit of energy for the two bridges in this stretch. The Pulaski Bridge into LI City, Queens was actually surprisingly steep and very windy and I struggled to maintain my pace just a bit for the first time that day. A few twists and turns through Queens certainly affected my time through this stretch and I was consciously holding back as we approached the Queensboro Bridge along Queens Blvd. at the 15 mile mark. It's a long, steady incline as you cross the bridge over the East River and for the first time, I began to see runners losing serious pace and a few people walking. I was holding back as we crested the bridge.
Sixth 5k: 25:05 (8:04 per mile pace):
Down the back half of the Queenboro, I opened it up a bit and heard the famous "wall of sound" even before I saw the first Manhattan crowds down below along the winding ramp to my left. Taking the short turn from 59th street onto 1st Avenue, I was blown away by the throngs of cheering people on both sides of the street. It was hard to hear any individual voices, just a muddled chorus of noise that propelled me through the rolling hills into the Upper East Side. I saw my wife again at 90th and 1st and took a quick Gu and Water at the 18 mile mark. It's not surprising that this was my fastest 5k of the day.
Seventh 5k: 25:46 (8:17 per mile pace):
On the straight shot up through Harlem, the crowds were still very supportive. At this point, I noticed some odd pain in the ball of my right foot, which intensified when I started flexing my toes. Nothing too severe at this point but I made it a point to land a little more gently for a while. The Willis Ave Bridge into the Bronx was short, steep and very windy, slowing my pace a bit. We wound through the Bronx and I crossed back into Manhattan at the Madison Ave bridge at Mile 21 wondering if The Wall would ever come. So far, so good.
Eighth 5k: 25:20 (8:09 per mile pace):
My training really paid off down 5th Avenue. Known as one of the toughest stretches, I was picking people off, passing hundreds of slower runners in this stretch. My mantra here was simple: "THERE IS NO WALL". I felt fantastic and my pace was actually sub 8:00 since I stopped around Mile 22 for my final Gu, a full cup of Gatorade and a quick 20 second walk break. Saw my wife one final time on the corner of 90th and 5th. She yelled my name very loudly and screamed "I Love You!" and I shouted back "Order me a beer at the bar!" which pretty much cracked up most of the runners and spectators around me as we turned into the park.
Final 2.195k: 11:13 (8:15 per mile pace):
Rolling hills through Central Park and I'm still feeling really strong until we took the turn from Central Park South to Columbus Circle. There's a deceiving hill up Central Park West and I was starting to fade as my energy level dipped for the first time all day and my right foot began to throb. The stretch to head back into the park for the finish seemed endless. Finally entered back into the park and the final half mile stretch was a beast. Still heading up slight inclines were pretty brutal and I willed myself to the finish line with my Garmin showing 3:35:56 - Pretty close to my unofficial chip time:
3:35:53 - 8:15 per mile pace overall. A new PR by nearly 9 minutes on a much hillier and windier course. I couldn't be happier with my effort and I'm really starting to think seriously about BQ strategy next fall. Between the conditions, course and crowds, I feel like I could run a 3:30 on a fast/flat course right now. If I pick an "easy" BQ qualifier and dial up the speedwork in the next 6 months, I've got a 3:20 in me for sure.
Thanks for reading.
ING NYC Marathon Race Report - 11/7/10
After a decent night's sleep and the Staten Island Ferry/Bus Ride to Fort Wadsworth, I made my way to the Green Corral holding area around 6:30AM to stake out a place. Mid 30s temperature and gusty winds made sitting around a bit uncomfortable until the sun rose above the treeline. The holding area was just south of the Verrazano Bridge with a mix of paved and small grass sitting areas, amidst the various food and drink tents. I wandered past the wheelchair athletes tent and got myself some Dunkin Donuts coffee and bagels and huddled down in a grassy patch towards the ambulance parking section. I was able to spread out a couple of trash bags and set my gear bag as my pillow to catch an extra half hour of sleep. The loudspeakers were broadcasting in various languages announcing cutoff times for corrals, bag drop deadlines and No Smoking policies (obviously aimed at our International friends), etc... I spent most of the next hour speaking with runners seated around me and doing the hydrate>pee>hydrate shuffle until a woman came through our "camp" announcing that the Wave 1 bag drop was closing in 10 minutes and the Wave 1 corrals were opening in 20. Whoa. Better get moving.
I made my way into the Green section, Corral #21 about 8:30AM. Still bracing myself from the wind, sitting on the curb in the narrow corral and trying to preserve energy while many nervous runners jogged in place to keep warm. I was terrified to exert any more effort than absolutely necessary so I turtled for the next half hour and kept pretty much to myself, trying to visualize my first couple of miles. Just after 9AM, the corral lines opened up and we slowly surged towards the start line, about 50 feet every 5 minutes or so. Mother nature called one last time and in the wait to empty my bladder, I got stuck at the very back of the Green Wave 1 as we made our way to the starting line.
Gun went off promptly at 9:40 and we all snaked around the corral line to the on-ramp to the Verrazano, crossing the starting line shortly after 9:50AM.
First 5k: 25:35 (8:14 per mile pace):
I was actually pleased to be on the lower level of the bridge for the start since the incline is much less severe than the top level. The Green Wave also has a distinct advantage of having its own route for the first 5k so there's lots of room between runners and not nearly as crowded as I'd expected. In this first 5k, I made an effort to take the uphill slowly, running the first mile in approximately 8:45 pace, making up much of that time against goal in the downhill off of the bridge into Brooklyn. The wind was whipping pretty hard at this point and I felt some strong gusts in my face all the way through the Dyker Heights section of Brooklyn. Picked up some Gatorade at the Mile 3 mark and I breezed through this first 5k feeling "light and loose", which was my mantra for the first half of the race.
Second 5k: 25:23 (8:10 per mile pace):
Coming into Bay Ridge, the crowds began to fill up the sidewalks and were very enthusiastic, particularly once our Wave merged back in with the other 2 starting groups. At this point, I was very pleased with my choice to put my name on my long-sleeve running top at Niketown the day before as fans were chanting my name and giving very spirited high fives down 4th Avenue. I had easy speed through this segment even though the wind out of the North was pushing hard against us during this stretch. At mile 6, I took my first Gu and chased it with a couple of healthy swigs of Gatorade at an aid station. It's around this point that I passed the Chilean Miner, who was surrounded by two camera crews and two NYRR pacers. I yelled "Good Luck" to him and left him in the dust.
Third 5k: 25:43 (8:16 per mile pace):
Making my way into Park Slope and Prospect Heights, the crowds got thicker, the fans more energetic and more inebriated. This was a really run stretch for me since my wife was waiting at Mile 9 and cheered very loudly - A great boost heading into the relative "dead zone" as we were turning on to Bedford Street. Made a quick water stop at mile 8.
Fourth 5k: 25:42 (8:16 per mile pace):
Williamsburg to Greenpoint was pretty uneventful for me and I honestly don't remember too much about this segment other than focusing on my breathing and realizing that the crowds thinned out quite a bit, especially when we got into the Hasidic part of town. I still had tons of energy and picked up quick Gatorade hits at both miles 11 and 12.
Fifth 5k: 26:12 (8:25 per mile pace):
I stopped at Mile 13 for Gu #2 and a quick 10 second walking break to scarf down a full Gatorade cup to gain a little bit of energy for the two bridges in this stretch. The Pulaski Bridge into LI City, Queens was actually surprisingly steep and very windy and I struggled to maintain my pace just a bit for the first time that day. A few twists and turns through Queens certainly affected my time through this stretch and I was consciously holding back as we approached the Queensboro Bridge along Queens Blvd. at the 15 mile mark. It's a long, steady incline as you cross the bridge over the East River and for the first time, I began to see runners losing serious pace and a few people walking. I was holding back as we crested the bridge.
Sixth 5k: 25:05 (8:04 per mile pace):
Down the back half of the Queenboro, I opened it up a bit and heard the famous "wall of sound" even before I saw the first Manhattan crowds down below along the winding ramp to my left. Taking the short turn from 59th street onto 1st Avenue, I was blown away by the throngs of cheering people on both sides of the street. It was hard to hear any individual voices, just a muddled chorus of noise that propelled me through the rolling hills into the Upper East Side. I saw my wife again at 90th and 1st and took a quick Gu and Water at the 18 mile mark. It's not surprising that this was my fastest 5k of the day.
Seventh 5k: 25:46 (8:17 per mile pace):
On the straight shot up through Harlem, the crowds were still very supportive. At this point, I noticed some odd pain in the ball of my right foot, which intensified when I started flexing my toes. Nothing too severe at this point but I made it a point to land a little more gently for a while. The Willis Ave Bridge into the Bronx was short, steep and very windy, slowing my pace a bit. We wound through the Bronx and I crossed back into Manhattan at the Madison Ave bridge at Mile 21 wondering if The Wall would ever come. So far, so good.
Eighth 5k: 25:20 (8:09 per mile pace):
My training really paid off down 5th Avenue. Known as one of the toughest stretches, I was picking people off, passing hundreds of slower runners in this stretch. My mantra here was simple: "THERE IS NO WALL". I felt fantastic and my pace was actually sub 8:00 since I stopped around Mile 22 for my final Gu, a full cup of Gatorade and a quick 20 second walk break. Saw my wife one final time on the corner of 90th and 5th. She yelled my name very loudly and screamed "I Love You!" and I shouted back "Order me a beer at the bar!" which pretty much cracked up most of the runners and spectators around me as we turned into the park.
Final 2.195k: 11:13 (8:15 per mile pace):
Rolling hills through Central Park and I'm still feeling really strong until we took the turn from Central Park South to Columbus Circle. There's a deceiving hill up Central Park West and I was starting to fade as my energy level dipped for the first time all day and my right foot began to throb. The stretch to head back into the park for the finish seemed endless. Finally entered back into the park and the final half mile stretch was a beast. Still heading up slight inclines were pretty brutal and I willed myself to the finish line with my Garmin showing 3:35:56 - Pretty close to my unofficial chip time:
3:35:53 - 8:15 per mile pace overall. A new PR by nearly 9 minutes on a much hillier and windier course. I couldn't be happier with my effort and I'm really starting to think seriously about BQ strategy next fall. Between the conditions, course and crowds, I feel like I could run a 3:30 on a fast/flat course right now. If I pick an "easy" BQ qualifier and dial up the speedwork in the next 6 months, I've got a 3:20 in me for sure.
Thanks for reading.
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pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Workhorse: GREAT report!! Awesome to hear the story of your race. That is a brutal course especially if it was windy. You certainly should have your sights on a BQ. Awesome!
The_Man
Footballguy
Workhorse, I've been waiting for that RR and it did not disappoint. Great job! I loved the part about you killing it down 5th Avenue while others were failing. That is awesome.
Go for that BQ! You, me and PSL in 2012 (and PMB, I'm thinking).
I also related to the part about how long the miles suddenly seem at the end. I do not want that to happen in my next marathon. I talked to a friend this past week who has run lots of marathons and now does ultras. He says for marathons, his whole approach is to get to mile 21 conserving energy and feeling like now he's ready to really start running - and then he passes scores of people. My approach had been kind of like, "Just hold onto pace as long as you can." After my next cycle, I want to feel like I'm owning the last 5 miles of the race - pretty much like you did for that 5th Avenue stretch.
Go for that BQ! You, me and PSL in 2012 (and PMB, I'm thinking).
I also related to the part about how long the miles suddenly seem at the end. I do not want that to happen in my next marathon. I talked to a friend this past week who has run lots of marathons and now does ultras. He says for marathons, his whole approach is to get to mile 21 conserving energy and feeling like now he's ready to really start running - and then he passes scores of people. My approach had been kind of like, "Just hold onto pace as long as you can." After my next cycle, I want to feel like I'm owning the last 5 miles of the race - pretty much like you did for that 5th Avenue stretch.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
They posted the Aqua Bike results from my race. Using the start time of the race, and the time I clicked off my Garmin in T2, I would have either taken first or second (really close; and 5 minutes ahead of third). I seriously contemplated just signing up for the Aqua Bike, but didn't want to rule out the potential of getting the run started, or somehow miraculously finished. Had my daughters not been there, I'd be pissed off right now for not doing it. As is, I wouldn't have traded them being able to see me, and me being able to see/hear them for the world.
pmbrown_22
Footballguy
Great RR Workhorse. Maybe if things go right, 2012 will be the year for the FBGs to take on Boston. I still have to find the right race that works for both me and my wife. Have not ruled any of them out as of yet.
Workhorse
Footballguy
I've got my eye on CIM in Sacramento next year but that wouldn't get me into Boston until 2013.
wraith5
Footballguy
Great report and great race, Workhorse!
5 miles today with 6x 400 (6:36 target) w/400 recoveries. This is my standard race-week speed workout, and before Chicago last month I averaged 6:41s. Today was 6:16s. lower 40s temp and sunny - I actually got warm running with shorts, a double shirt and no gloves.
When I do my 3 miler on Thursday, I'll cross 1000 miles for the year - I did 915 in 2009 which was a record for me (plus I've added the biking and swimming this year). I know 1000 miles doesn't match up well to your Pfitz guys, but I'm pretty happy with how this year is rounding out.
Now I just need this last race to go well.
5 miles today with 6x 400 (6:36 target) w/400 recoveries. This is my standard race-week speed workout, and before Chicago last month I averaged 6:41s. Today was 6:16s. lower 40s temp and sunny - I actually got warm running with shorts, a double shirt and no gloves.
When I do my 3 miler on Thursday, I'll cross 1000 miles for the year - I did 915 in 2009 which was a record for me (plus I've added the biking and swimming this year). I know 1000 miles doesn't match up well to your Pfitz guys, but I'm pretty happy with how this year is rounding out.
Now I just need this last race to go well.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Great report, Workhorse. Glad to see that everything came together for you on race day.
pmbrown_22
Footballguy
Add in those biking and swim miles and you are easily on par or ahead of me. You got this one. The low temps make a huge difference.
gruecd
Footballguy
Workhorse - I don't know what to say, other than that was one of the best race reports I've ever read....and I've read a TON of them. Brought back tons of memories from last year....the starting area, the eerie quiet in Hasidic Williamsburg, the anything but quiet turn onto 1st Ave, the struggle up 5th Ave.....everything. Very well done.
Oh yeah, for future reference, if you're ever doing one of those races like NYC, Chicago, or Boston where you need to enter the corral super early, an empty 32-oz Gatorade bottle and a big garbage bag make for a wonderful port-a-potty. Just saying....
My plan was to skip Boston '12 and focus on IM training instead, but I'm already qualified, and if all of you guys make it, well, maybe it'll have to be a long (expensive) training run....
Oh yeah, for future reference, if you're ever doing one of those races like NYC, Chicago, or Boston where you need to enter the corral super early, an empty 32-oz Gatorade bottle and a big garbage bag make for a wonderful port-a-potty. Just saying....
My plan was to skip Boston '12 and focus on IM training instead, but I'm already qualified, and if all of you guys make it, well, maybe it'll have to be a long (expensive) training run....
gruecd
Footballguy
Pretty sure CIM will be my back-up race if I don't get chosen in the lottery for Houston. Both are supposed to be super fast courses.pmb - :cough: GREEN BAY :cough:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This is the kind of practical information that keeps bringing me back to the FFA.
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gruecd
Footballguy
You'll thank me one day.This is the kind of practical information that keeps bringing me back to the FFA.
Ned
Footballguy
12 days to go and I'm really getting anxious and wanting to get this race over with. I've become completely consumed by it. I've never run a race of this size before (sold out @ 23,000) and have a few questions on how the logistics work. Understanding everyone probably hasn't done this specific race, but hoping some of the things are the same. 
The start for the full and half is at 7AM. Looking at the start/finish/corral map, I'm assuming I'll get a colored bib based on the anticipated time I put on my entry (2:00). Being this large, I'm assuming getting there early to get a good spot is out of the question.
What's with these changing tents, gear drop off spots, etc? How long can I expect to hang out? I've been assuming I can just show up in what I plan to run in and be ready to go. Carrying gear to drop off into some holding tent sounds like a nightmare.
With a race this size, how long will I be waiting after the gun before I actually get to start?
The start for the full and half is at 7AM. Looking at the start/finish/corral map, I'm assuming I'll get a colored bib based on the anticipated time I put on my entry (2:00). Being this large, I'm assuming getting there early to get a good spot is out of the question.
What's with these changing tents, gear drop off spots, etc? How long can I expect to hang out? I've been assuming I can just show up in what I plan to run in and be ready to go. Carrying gear to drop off into some holding tent sounds like a nightmare.
With a race this size, how long will I be waiting after the gun before I actually get to start?
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
The race is the fun part. Run fast, but don't be in a rush to get it over with (ENJOY THE RUN). I am not a big fan of checking gear. Instead, find an old sweatshirt, junky flannel shirt, etc to wear to keep warm and then pitch on the side of the road. A garbage bag makes a nice parka too (and as you saw from grue can become your own personal outhouse with a gatoraide bottle. For big races like this, I'll walk to the start and finish line if possible to get the lay of the land and most important, figure out where the porta potties are. Best running advice I ever received for big race was to immediately get in line for the porta potty when get towards the start. The second thing you should do is get back in line. By the time you get through the line again it'll be time go again. I get to races way too early as the stress of parking is a killer. I'd rather be 30 minutes early than have to rush in to the corral at the last second (which I did in Detroit last year while they were finishing the National Anthem). This should set your mind at ease a bit. The race doesn't start at the gun (I know you know this), it starts when your chip crosses the start mat. If you are a bit late, don't sweat it. AND, don't be in a big hurry and waste energy darting around slower runners at the start. Burn the energy you saved at the slower start when you are in open space. Study the course and where the mile markers and water stops are. Walk the water stops to be sure you get enough water, versus running and wearing it. Just a quick download of my brain.12 days to go and I'm really getting anxious and wanting to get this race over with. I've become completely consumed by it. I've never run a race of this size before (sold out @ 23,000) and have a few questions on how the logistics work. Understanding everyone probably hasn't done this specific race, but hoping some of the things are the same.
The start for the full and half is at 7AM. Looking at the start/finish/corral map, I'm assuming I'll get a colored bib based on the anticipated time I put on my entry (2:00). Being this large, I'm assuming getting there early to get a good spot is out of the question.
What's with these changing tents, gear drop off spots, etc? How long can I expect to hang out? I've been assuming I can just show up in what I plan to run in and be ready to go. Carrying gear to drop off into some holding tent sounds like a nightmare.
With a race this size, how long will I be waiting after the gun before I actually get to start?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
If you have an old sweatshirt that you don't mind parting ways with, just wear it until the gun sounds and then ditch it as you move toward the starting mat. I'm assuming it will be donated to charity. If its cold, considering bringing an old pair of tube socks. Cut out the toes and use them as arm-warmers. Pitch them after a couple of miles or whenever you warm up. GL regardless. I've enjoyed reading your training posts so far and I'm looking forward to seeing how your race goes. You're going to do great.
pmbrown_22
Footballguy
Told my wife this morning on the way to work that I think this is the race I will do in the spring. She still will have to clear it, but I think if I want to, I will get approval. Other thing is that I can still run the Pig as a half 2 weeks before as a good tune up for it. Then taper, then have at it.-------------
Back on the wagon tonight hopefully. I am feeling better, not great, but better so I am going to try 5 tonight and clear some of the crap out of my lungs.
Have a great day all.
Workhorse
Footballguy
Last night I threw my hat into the ring for a potentially interesting new job:
Director of Business Development & Strategic Partnerships for the Atlanta Track Club.
I've been with the same company for 16 years (Media Sales) and I thought it would be fun to apply that experience to my passion for running. Not sure if these guys could even afford me since they're a non-profit but it might be worth a pay cut to go to a job that "feels right".
Wish me luck.
Director of Business Development & Strategic Partnerships for the Atlanta Track Club.
I've been with the same company for 16 years (Media Sales) and I thought it would be fun to apply that experience to my passion for running. Not sure if these guys could even afford me since they're a non-profit but it might be worth a pay cut to go to a job that "feels right".
Wish me luck.
Ned
Footballguy
Last night I threw my hat into the ring for a potentially interesting new jobirector of Business Development & Strategic Partnerships for the Atlanta Track Club.I've been with the same company for 16 years (Media Sales) and I thought it would be fun to apply that experience to my passion for running. Not sure if these guys could even afford me since they're a non-profit but it might be worth a pay cut to go to a job that "feels right".Wish me luck.
Kudos for going after something that feels right instead of chasing the .I'm starting to see that light more and more these days...-------------------------------------------Thx Ivan & 2Y2BB. I'm really looking forward to this. It'll have been 17 weeks since I started on this adventure. Hoping all of this work pays off!!
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Last night I threw my hat into the ring for a potentially interesting new job
Nigel
Footballguy
This and the Gatorade bottle at the start are great ideas.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
I'll add. See if there is a hotel near by and hang out there to keep warm, and use the restrooms. IF you can find a conference hotel even better. Go to the conference floor to use their restrooms. Usually nobody anywhere near those restrooms, as you'll be at it earlier than any meetings = you'll have privacy to take care of all your business!Nigel said:This and the Gatorade bottle at the start are great ideas.IvanKaramazov said:
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I did the huge gulp 24 years ago when I entered higher ed (and a higher ed salary). Best decision ever.Ned said:Workhorse said:Last night I threw my hat into the ring for a potentially interesting new jobKudos for going after something that feels right instead of chasing the
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
My race pic's are up!. I epically failed at race stalking. Due to the wind, frigid temps, and apparel worn (while wet!), I'm certain I saw more raisins being smuggled than I have at any other time in my life. The following numbers are all I have for now:
399
405 (she came out of the water same time as I did. Her raisins had my hypnotized)
409
421
429 (a VERY annoying acquaintance; I've done a few races with her and she does not stop talking)
399
405 (she came out of the water same time as I did. Her raisins had my hypnotized)
409
421
429 (a VERY annoying acquaintance; I've done a few races with her and she does not stop talking)
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Darrinll40
Footballguy
Please remind me to never post in another thread here. These people are nuts.
Off to the doc in a couple of minutes. I am hoping he will tell me I can start running again.
Off to the doc in a couple of minutes. I am hoping he will tell me I can start running again.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I need to start recovering some of the speed I lost during marathon training/recovery, so I did a pretty half-assed speed workout today. A one mile warmup (10:00 pace) followed by 3 x 1 mile at 10K pace (8:00) with 1/2 mile recovery jogs in between. I know this is kind of a sad-sack interval session, but it's a start. I've learned the hard way that I have to ease myself into speedwork very gently if I don't want to pull/tear/rupture something.
FUBAR
Footballguy
that sounds awesome, we all should have jobs we enjoy.Workhorse said:Last night I threw my hat into the ring for a potentially interesting new job
gruecd
Footballguy
Thanks, guys. One more quick question. Who do I drop to pick up Tamme--Ryan Torain, Marshawn Lynch, or Willis McGahee? Leaning towards either Lynch or Torain, but I need some affirmation.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
WINNER.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
If you click the picture, it greatly enlarges even the smallest of areas
Darrinll40
Footballguy
That zoom box is a nice tittle feature. Anyway, got home from the doc and everything is good to go, no further restrictions.If you click the picture, it greatly enlarges even the smallest of areas
I went out for a nice easy two miles and it felt so good I pushed it a bit.
I did the first mile in 10:05 though I thought it was faster, and the second in 9:50.
A nice 9:47 average.
I am going to keep up the two mile a day for a little while until I get my legs back. Though I may stretch it to 3 on Saturday. Whatever I do it will be slower than today. I plan to run 1 5k in January and then nothing until the Bourbon Chase. I may throw in a few more 5k's in the cool weather.
It is good to be back.
Darrinll40
Footballguy
Non running post.
I just logged on to facebook and someone named Deborah Richardson put Hello, Hello on my wall. You guys may want to check her out, she was not clothed.
ETA: Karen Tran also. I wonder how many guys they spammed?
I just logged on to facebook and someone named Deborah Richardson put Hello, Hello on my wall. You guys may want to check her out, she was not clothed.
ETA: Karen Tran also. I wonder how many guys they spammed?
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Darrinll40
Footballguy
I am sure you will do well.Have fun in Indiana.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Good luckLast night I threw my hat into the ring for a potentially interesting new job
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I did 5 miles today. I am following the runners world 1/2 training. It felt slow but I am going to trust runners world and Mcmillan. I hope this helps me get faster. So far I have never felt really hurt doing this. I have never had to walk during these training runs which makes me feel good.Today i was supposed to 1 mile warmup 3miles @10:29 and 1 mile cooldown. I nailed the 3 mile pace. I do feel like I am getting better at pacing. My HR was steady and never went over 164.
My next run according to this plan is 6 miles @12:08 on Sat.
Todays map http://connect.garmin.com/activity/56264583
*Glad to see you are back on the streets Darrin
I almost forgot it was in the 70s when I ran. I felt like I was running in air conditioning. It was very nice.
My next run according to this plan is 6 miles @12:08 on Sat.
Todays map http://connect.garmin.com/activity/56264583
*Glad to see you are back on the streets Darrin
I almost forgot it was in the 70s when I ran. I felt like I was running in air conditioning. It was very nice.
pmbrown_22
Footballguy
Yeah um, about this, wife is not going for it. I think I am going to have to live and die with the hills of Cincinnati on this one. She does not want to drive 8+ hours for 2 days. She is trying to save her vacation as much as possible so she can take a longer maternity leave next year, so taking an extra day just to go watch this idiot run 26.2 miles is not in the plans for her at the moment. Is what it is.Went out and did 5 miles last night. Even though I had a harder time breathing (crap is still sitting in my chest) I felt really good and had a pretty good run. I can't wait to really start feeling better to get some faster runs in, I am needing to build a really strong base up for the start of next year.
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