Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

[17seconds]

17s - 3:52 for your first is a fantastic time! Your HR is always going to creep higher during a race vs. training due to adrenaline. Enjoy those sore legs. Its a reminder of a huge accomplishment. How's the achilles tendonitis feeling? I can feel your pain. I went thru that a while ago. Take your time recovering. It's definitely not something you can gut out. Nothing but RICE will solve it.

I wasn't aware of the RICE method, thanks for the headsup. I'll do that the next couple of weeks and see how it goes. The tendonitis wasn't an issue during the race. I get it when I'm resting and walking.I am happy with my result but I tend to be a competitive perfectionist and if I had just brought enough salt tablets I could have staved off the cramps. I'm driving my wife nuts . I went conservative with a plan to speed up the last 10K, but then the cramps hit so the stopping added +30s a mile to my pace. Next time I'm bringing a ton of salt tablets.

And yes, my quads are hurting like they never have before!

 

[2Young2BBald]

17s - 3:52 for your first is a fantastic time! Your HR is always going to creep higher during a race vs. training due to adrenaline. Enjoy those sore legs. Its a reminder of a huge accomplishment. How's the achilles tendonitis feeling? I can feel your pain. I went thru that a while ago. Take your time recovering. It's definitely not something you can gut out. Nothing but RICE will solve it.

I wasn't aware of the RICE method, thanks for the headsup. I'll do that the next couple of weeks and see how it goes. The tendonitis wasn't an issue during the race. I get it when I'm resting and walking.I am happy with my result but I tend to be a competitive perfectionist and if I had just brought enough salt tablets I could have staved off the cramps. I'm driving my wife nuts . I went conservative with a plan to speed up the last 10K, but then the cramps hit so the stopping added +30s a mile to my pace. Next time I'm bringing a ton of salt tablets.

And yes, my quads are hurting like they never have before!

Take a look at Hammer's Endurolytes versus normal salt tablets. I have had amazing results with them. Like all the other Hammer products I use (Gels and HEED) these seem to be way more effective and much easier on the stomach.

 

[pigskinliquors]

I really want to pick up some speed this Summer so I am going to try and push myself pretty hard in the heat. I gave a lot of thought to the heat and altitude training last week and feel like I need to just do it and see where it gets me. Hopefully on a good track.

Have a great day all.

Get at it pmb!!

Oh, and I finished second (8:30) in the Beer Mile on Saturday night.

Well-done

Anyone else catch HTFU's Latest FB Page?

I'm feeling very motivated after catching up on the last couple pages...

Don't be a stranger. Staying active in this thread is damn good motivation. Awesome that you now have a goal #2 (#1 is always to finish)!

 

[17seconds]

17s - 3:52 for your first is a fantastic time! Your HR is always going to creep higher during a race vs. training due to adrenaline. Enjoy those sore legs. Its a reminder of a huge accomplishment. How's the achilles tendonitis feeling? I can feel your pain. I went thru that a while ago. Take your time recovering. It's definitely not something you can gut out. Nothing but RICE will solve it.

I wasn't aware of the RICE method, thanks for the headsup. I'll do that the next couple of weeks and see how it goes. The tendonitis wasn't an issue during the race. I get it when I'm resting and walking.I am happy with my result but I tend to be a competitive perfectionist and if I had just brought enough salt tablets I could have staved off the cramps. I'm driving my wife nuts . I went conservative with a plan to speed up the last 10K, but then the cramps hit so the stopping added +30s a mile to my pace. Next time I'm bringing a ton of salt tablets.

And yes, my quads are hurting like they never have before!

Take a look at Hammer's Endurolytes versus normal salt tablets. I have had amazing results with them. Like all the other Hammer products I use (Gels and HEED) these seem to be way more effective and much easier on the stomach.

I'll try those. The strange thing is though, electrolyte drinks do nothing for my cramps but a single Thermotab salt tablet stops it within a few seconds and allows me to go another mile or so before they come back.

 

[tri-man 47]

I noticed that some of you guys are putting your HR numbers next to your mile times and I'm wondering what that's all about?I'm not sure how accurate the treadmill HR monitor is, but I normally peak at 170'ish during my runs... How do you find your target HR?

Good luck with the race! Sounds like a reasonable goal, but if you have anything left in the tank, try to pick up the pace a 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile out, not just the last 100 yards.HR: My logic is that the HR gives me objective data to guide my training and an accurate reading on where I stand during a race. In a race, if I push the HR too high early, I risk not being able to maintain pace. If the HR is too low, then I've let my mind talk me into easing up when the body says I have more to give. The HR takes humidity, temperature, my training, and current condition (e.g., how rested and ready I am) and condenses it into a single number. The heart helps to take my mind out of the equation. "Perceived effort" can do much of this as well, but I prefer to use the HR. I found it to be a key factor in marathon training over a year ago. Dr. Ned will explain the targeted rates.

 

[Sand]

I am happy with my result but I tend to be a competitive perfectionist and if I had just brought enough salt tablets I could have staved off the cramps. I'm driving my wife nuts . I went conservative with a plan to speed up the last 10K, but then the cramps hit so the stopping added +30s a mile to my pace. Next time I'm bringing a ton of salt tablets.And yes, my quads are hurting like they never have before!

First off, huge congrats! Very nicely done, sir. Second, probably not what you want to hear, but I'd also recommend some active recovery - a very easy bike ride or a 30 minute walk. It does help in flushing out all that lactic acid you packed in there.

 

[beer 302]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-57446848-10391697/watch-runner-carries-hurt-rival-to-finish-line/

Awesome story from Ohio's DIV III State track meet this weekend

 

[goldenchild]

I noticed that some of you guys are putting your HR numbers next to your mile times and I'm wondering what that's all about?

I'm not sure how accurate the treadmill HR monitor is, but I normally peak at 170'ish during my runs... How do you find your target HR?

Good luck with the race! Sounds like a reasonable goal, but if you have anything left in the tank, try to pick up the pace a 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile out, not just the last 100 yards.HR: My logic is that the HR gives me objective data to guide my training and an accurate reading on where I stand during a race. In a race, if I push the HR too high early, I risk not being able to maintain pace. If the HR is too low, then I've let my mind talk me into easing up when the body says I have more to give. The HR takes humidity, temperature, my training, and current condition (e.g., how rested and ready I am) and condenses it into a single number. The heart helps to take my mind out of the equation. "Perceived effort" can do much of this as well, but I prefer to use the HR. I found it to be a key factor in marathon training over a year ago. Dr. Ned will explain the targeted rates.

Thanks for the overview. I tend to breakdown mentally a lot sooner than I should. I need to learn more about using my HR to train because I think that will help me a great deal.Is there a general consensus for a good (relatively inexpensive) HR monitor? Are the watch style models good enough? Or is the one that wraps around your chest the best method?

 

[comfortably numb]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-57446848-10391697/watch-runner-carries-hurt-rival-to-finish-line/Awesome story from Ohio's DIV III State track meet this weekend

 

[2Young2BBald]

I noticed that some of you guys are putting your HR numbers next to your mile times and I'm wondering what that's all about?

I'm not sure how accurate the treadmill HR monitor is, but I normally peak at 170'ish during my runs... How do you find your target HR?

Good luck with the race! Sounds like a reasonable goal, but if you have anything left in the tank, try to pick up the pace a 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile out, not just the last 100 yards.HR: My logic is that the HR gives me objective data to guide my training and an accurate reading on where I stand during a race. In a race, if I push the HR too high early, I risk not being able to maintain pace. If the HR is too low, then I've let my mind talk me into easing up when the body says I have more to give. The HR takes humidity, temperature, my training, and current condition (e.g., how rested and ready I am) and condenses it into a single number. The heart helps to take my mind out of the equation. "Perceived effort" can do much of this as well, but I prefer to use the HR. I found it to be a key factor in marathon training over a year ago. Dr. Ned will explain the targeted rates.

Thanks for the overview. I tend to breakdown mentally a lot sooner than I should. I need to learn more about using my HR to train because I think that will help me a great deal.Is there a general consensus for a good (relatively inexpensive) HR monitor? Are the watch style models good enough? Or is the one that wraps around your chest the best method?

Based on your posts, I sense you are in this for the long haul. I recommend getting a Garmin that pair with a heart rate monitor (and get the premium strap). The latest generations of Garmin Running and Triathlon watches have insane functionality and online analytic tools. You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you bought just a Heart Rate Device.

 

[goldenchild]

I noticed that some of you guys are putting your HR numbers next to your mile times and I'm wondering what that's all about?

I'm not sure how accurate the treadmill HR monitor is, but I normally peak at 170'ish during my runs... How do you find your target HR?

Good luck with the race! Sounds like a reasonable goal, but if you have anything left in the tank, try to pick up the pace a 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile out, not just the last 100 yards.HR: My logic is that the HR gives me objective data to guide my training and an accurate reading on where I stand during a race. In a race, if I push the HR too high early, I risk not being able to maintain pace. If the HR is too low, then I've let my mind talk me into easing up when the body says I have more to give. The HR takes humidity, temperature, my training, and current condition (e.g., how rested and ready I am) and condenses it into a single number. The heart helps to take my mind out of the equation. "Perceived effort" can do much of this as well, but I prefer to use the HR. I found it to be a key factor in marathon training over a year ago. Dr. Ned will explain the targeted rates.

Thanks for the overview. I tend to breakdown mentally a lot sooner than I should. I need to learn more about using my HR to train because I think that will help me a great deal.Is there a general consensus for a good (relatively inexpensive) HR monitor? Are the watch style models good enough? Or is the one that wraps around your chest the best method?

Based on your posts, I sense you are in this for the long haul. I recommend getting a Garmin that pair with a heart rate monitor (and get the premium strap). The latest generations of Garmin Running and Triathlon watches have insane functionality and online analytic tools. You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you bought just a Heart Rate Device.

Are there any favorites of the folk in here as far as specific models to look into? A quick amazon search for the premium strap looks like they run about $40.And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run? I'm considering buying one of them arm straps for my 6th gen ipod but wondering if I should just stick with my old school incase waist pouch since it has a small pocket to hold my car keys.

 

[beer 302]

And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run? I'm considering buying one of them arm straps for my 6th gen ipod but wondering if I should just stick with my old school incase waist pouch since it has a small pocket to hold my car keys.

GB of mine just got a Garmin 210 and it does exactly what you probably need it tne of the regulars in this thread (forgot who but props to him) posted this Garmin 405 last week when the subject came up. Think they are discontinuing this model but that's a steal of a price.

 

[goldenchild]

And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run? I'm considering buying one of them arm straps for my 6th gen ipod but wondering if I should just stick with my old school incase waist pouch since it has a small pocket to hold my car keys.

GB of mine just got a Garmin 210 and it does exactly what you probably need it tne of the regulars in this thread (forgot who but props to him) posted this Garmin 405 last week when the subject came up. Think they are discontinuing this model but that's a steal of a price.

Thanks... this is probably a dumb question. But are the watches themselves heart rate monitors? Or do you NEED the chest strap?

 

[sho nuff]

I have the Garmin 305...looks big, but I don't even notice it unless its beeping at me now...or when I look down at it.

You will see a lot of runners with these at any race.

Mine came with the regular chest strap. They do need a strap. I have not yet got into the premium strap yet.

As for music...I do listen for most runs.

Races...depends on the race. I have it with me but don't put the earphones in unless I feel I need it now.

 

[John Bender]

So as not to re-injure my back I just decided to start fresh and use the Couch to 5K as a ramp up method.

Although I started with Week 3, this program requires 3 runs per week designed to keep newbies from getting injured and I could use some disciplines in this department. Most of you will remember me last year at this time being stubborn about running too much - I have to protect my back.

Anyway - good news is, I crushed the running intervals at great paces with no wear out. The walking sucks, but I forced myself.

Week 3, Day 2 on Wednesday - tomorrow will be for stretching/cross

 

[gruecd]

I have the Garmin 305...looks big, but I don't even notice it unless its beeping at me now...or when I look down at it.You will see a lot of runners with these at any race.Mine came with the regular chest strap. They do need a strap. I have not yet got into the premium strap yet.As for music...I do listen for most runs.Races...depends on the race. I have it with me but don't put the earphones in unless I feel I need it now.

I listen to music on 99% of my training runs and the majority of races, unless (a) I'm running with someone or (b) it's a big race with awesome crowd support like Boston, Chicago, or New York.

 

[John Bender]

Adding: I should still be ready for the Philly Marathon (although most likely will do the half). So cornhole will be in order for those who attend.

Let me know as time gets closer where you make arrangements or if you need a place to stay. Again, I've got a good sized place right in Philly with no roommates.

 

[tri-man 47]

And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run? I'm considering buying one of them arm straps for my 6th gen ipod but wondering if I should just stick with my old school incase waist pouch since it has a small pocket to hold my car keys.

GB of mine just got a Garmin 210 and it does exactly what you probably need it tne of the regulars in this thread (forgot who but props to him) posted this Garmin 405 last week when the subject came up. Think they are discontinuing this model but that's a steal of a price.

Thanks... this is probably a dumb question. But are the watches themselves heart rate monitors? Or do you NEED the chest strap?

You need the chest strap, as far as I know, but I'm not the gadget guru. The Garmins are great. I resisted for a long time, but the precision for training runs is a huge benefit, and the data during races is great as well (instead of waiting for mile marks to see your pace).I use music on 0% of my runs.

 

[prosopis]

Anyone else catch HTFU's Latest FB Page?

great googly moogly.I had a bunch to say but I have forgotten it. Keep up the good work I am going back to that facebook page.

 

[BRONG]

There's little to no upside in running the 7 tonight. The goal now is to get to the starting line fresh. I'd say run 3 or so today and maybe tomorrow. Total rest on Friday.

GL!

I'm going to run an 8-mile road race in 3 weeks. Kind of hilly, too. I've only been running 3 or 4 miles on soft sand every couple of days.

What should I do for training from here on out? BTW, I'm not worried about finishing or anything like that, I'm in decent shape and have good endurance. I'm more interested in how I can maximize my effort. Thanks.

Start pounding some pavement. Train on what you're going to race on. Good luck.

Agreed. I don't know what your background is like, BRONG, but it's a big jump to go from 3-4 miles on sand to 8 hilly miles on asphalt.

Thanks for the input, which includes 17seconds and comfortably numb, btw. So here's where I'm at (not good, btw)... First of all the race is a week earlier than I thought, lol, coming up THIS Saturday. Also, I haven't trained much. And I have only run on pavement twice now. I ran 6 miles last Wednesday...totally flat, btw. And about 6 1/2 last Saturday with some hills. I timed the first 6-mile run. Did the first 3 miles in 28. The other 3 in 27:40. The last mile had to be my fastest, fwiw, so at least I have that going for me, ha.

I continued to do a few other sand runs the last few weeks and have also been doing a workout twice a week that includes lots of pushups, situps, lunges, and a bunch of others I don't even know the name of. In between each exercise, we jog. The sof-sand jog is actually the break/rest period between pretty intense exercises. It ain't easy. I have to think this will help some.

Anyway, my plan tonight was to run 7 miles on pavement. However, after reading this again, I'm wondering if that's too far, so close to the race (3 1/2 days away). Again, race is 8 miles and the last two runs on pavement were my longest in maybe 10 years. Also, I have the boot camp thing Thursday evening. Is that also too close to the race (early Saturday morning). It's a 45 minute workout, btw, and I don't want to miss one unless it's a bad idea.

Finally, any ideas of what to do tomorrow and Friday? Probly nothing on Friday, I'm thinking.

Thanks.

I wouldn't run at all these next two days.

Whoops, I already did (last night). I didn't hear back on here and so I went with my gut. I figured there was enough recovery time and I was feeling pretty good. And I think it was the right call, as I felt the strongest I've felt during and after a run in awhile. I ran about 7 miles, finished strong, and wasn't that winded after. Nothing like Saturday, where I was dripping and beat. Although Saturday's run was midday in 80 degree weather. And last night was at dusk with less elevation change but still...So I guess I won't run today or Friday, thanks for the input. However, I am planning on doing that beach workout tomorrow. The run involved is not that far, maybe 2 miles (but soft sand). I have no concerns about finishing the race at this point so why not...it's not like I'm aiming for a certain time or anything.

Well, I guess I'll give my silly update (in the wake of the marathoners in here -- congrats!)...Finished the 8 miles in an hour and 5 1/2 minutes. It went great and I finished strong. I had never run more than a 10K (15 years ago) so I was glad I didn't die out at the end. I also shaved around 45 seconds off my avg mile time from 10 days prior, which was my first real pavement/training run. Plus, the race was 2 miles farther, with hills. That's what I'm happiest about, makes me want to continue to run, but on sand.

Too bad they didn't post mile splits and position during race. Easily the biggest reason for my improvement was continually setting targets to pass. Granted, I started off slow (was taking a piss) and that's naturally how I run anyway...need to warm up. I passed the laggers the first mile. Then found some dude to shadow at a pace I liked for maybe a mile. Then I just started plucking people off. Loved that. Oh I know these were slow joggers but it worked for me. The people I had to get by got progressively harder, of course. I can only remember two people going by me the second half of the race. One older dude in his 50's and some young dude. This was around mile 7.

I know this is ridiculous to talk about but it was definitely the most fun. Anyway, I went by the tall dude on this long decline, where I'm easily fastest for some reason. He then went by me pretty convincingly on the final flats. But I rallied by him again, at a about the 1/4 pole. Almost got to the old fella too, haha, but good for him! Oh, and this chick I was about to pass at the very end was SO HOT, I pulled up and let her go first. Some dude yelled, "You're not gonna let a girl beat you, are you??!!"

Anyway, sorry for the play-by-play, what a dork.

 

[Sand]

I noticed that some of you guys are putting your HR numbers next to your mile times and I'm wondering what that's all about?

I'm not sure how accurate the treadmill HR monitor is, but I normally peak at 170'ish during my runs... How do you find your target HR?

Good luck with the race! Sounds like a reasonable goal, but if you have anything left in the tank, try to pick up the pace a 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile out, not just the last 100 yards.HR: My logic is that the HR gives me objective data to guide my training and an accurate reading on where I stand during a race. In a race, if I push the HR too high early, I risk not being able to maintain pace. If the HR is too low, then I've let my mind talk me into easing up when the body says I have more to give. The HR takes humidity, temperature, my training, and current condition (e.g., how rested and ready I am) and condenses it into a single number. The heart helps to take my mind out of the equation. "Perceived effort" can do much of this as well, but I prefer to use the HR. I found it to be a key factor in marathon training over a year ago. Dr. Ned will explain the targeted rates.

Thanks for the overview. I tend to breakdown mentally a lot sooner than I should. I need to learn more about using my HR to train because I think that will help me a great deal.Is there a general consensus for a good (relatively inexpensive) HR monitor? Are the watch style models good enough? Or is the one that wraps around your chest the best method?

Based on your posts, I sense you are in this for the long haul. I recommend getting a Garmin that pair with a heart rate monitor (and get the premium strap). The latest generations of Garmin Running and Triathlon watches have insane functionality and online analytic tools. You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you bought just a Heart Rate Device.

Are there any favorites of the folk in here as far as specific models to look into? A quick amazon search for the premium strap looks like they run about $40.And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run? I'm considering buying one of them arm straps for my 6th gen ipod but wondering if I should just stick with my old school incase waist pouch since it has a small pocket to hold my car keys.

I listen to music on every run. I run with a Sansa Clip - cheap, good sound, and light. I put it in a small plastic bag to keep from sweating it out (to be fair none of those small MP3 players are waterproof). Otherwise I'm very happy with it. For earbuds I've gone through a number and Yurbuds are the only kind that have stayed in my ears.If you are just a runner a 405 on sale or a 110 (or 210) should be fine. For triathlon a 310XT is the order of the day. Amazon or Hearratemonitorsusa.com tend to do the best on price, and HRM-USA has coupons out there regularly. Get the Strap (the premium strap is what you want), usually as part of a combo. Yes, you need the strap.

 

[pigskinliquors]

First off, huge congrats! Very nicely done, sir. Second, probably not what you want to hear, but I'd also recommend some active recovery - a very easy bike ride or a 30 minute walk. It does help in flushing out all that lactic acid you packed in there.

If you can, spin at over 100 RPMs for 20-30 minutes pushing a very easy gear. Your HR doesn't need to get up much, but your legs need to turn over quickly.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-57446848-10391697/watch-runner-carries-hurt-rival-to-finish-line/Awesome story from Ohio's DIV III State track meet this weekend

AWE-some!

...this chick I was about to pass at the very end was SO HOT

...and her pictures can be found where?!!!!___________________Ended up just doing Plyo today. My planned bike ride wasn't in the cards. FWIW: the Texas A&M Men and Women will both be trying to FOUR-Peat at the NCAAA Outdoor Track and Field Championships starting on Wednesday

 

[Sand]

I use music on 0% of my runs.

Luddite.Back on the horse today. Swam a 5 mile run at lunch - just finished raining through the morning, so it was literally 80F/95%RH. I almost sweated through my shoes and started leaving sweat footprints. Pace was pedestrian, but I intended it to be light. Swam 2000 tonight, with a consecutive 1:08 100, 2:24 200, and 6:34 500 efforts. The 200 was good, but I sucked it up on the 500.

 

[eoMMan]

I noticed that some of you guys are putting your HR numbers next to your mile times and I'm wondering what that's all about?

I'm not sure how accurate the treadmill HR monitor is, but I normally peak at 170'ish during my runs... How do you find your target HR?

Good luck with the race! Sounds like a reasonable goal, but if you have anything left in the tank, try to pick up the pace a 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile out, not just the last 100 yards.HR: My logic is that the HR gives me objective data to guide my training and an accurate reading on where I stand during a race. In a race, if I push the HR too high early, I risk not being able to maintain pace. If the HR is too low, then I've let my mind talk me into easing up when the body says I have more to give. The HR takes humidity, temperature, my training, and current condition (e.g., how rested and ready I am) and condenses it into a single number. The heart helps to take my mind out of the equation. "Perceived effort" can do much of this as well, but I prefer to use the HR. I found it to be a key factor in marathon training over a year ago. Dr. Ned will explain the targeted rates.

Thanks for the overview. I tend to breakdown mentally a lot sooner than I should. I need to learn more about using my HR to train because I think that will help me a great deal.Is there a general consensus for a good (relatively inexpensive) HR monitor? Are the watch style models good enough? Or is the one that wraps around your chest the best method?

Based on your posts, I sense you are in this for the long haul. I recommend getting a Garmin that pair with a heart rate monitor (and get the premium strap). The latest generations of Garmin Running and Triathlon watches have insane functionality and online analytic tools. You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you bought just a Heart Rate Device.

Are there any favorites of the folk in here as far as specific models to look into? A quick amazon search for the premium strap looks like they run about $40.And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run? I'm considering buying one of them arm straps for my 6th gen ipod but wondering if I should just stick with my old school incase waist pouch since it has a small pocket to hold my car keys.

I like the iPod Nano. It has a built in clip that you can just clip to your shirt sleeve. Honestly, I don't know how people run without music. Just hearing myself breathe psyches me out. I need the music.Just don't do like I do and leave the iPod in your pocket after a run and then go do laundry....

 

[BassNBrew]

No, I just have to squeeze between the air molecules. Conversely, when showering, I have to run around in circles just to get wet.

This thread is awesome.

You're killing it dude.

Got in a 77 miler 2 weeks ago and roughly 90 miler last week. The 90 miler include a 5 mi, 950 ft climb over 20 mins around 290 watts early on. The signature climb finishes at 20% and it took me 15 minutes to ride the last mile of it.

Three weeks until my mountain century.

You as well BnB. Do you have an elevation link for your mountain century????

http://bloodsweatandgears.racesonline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=site.display&page_id=5285

 

[BassNBrew]

Jux - Amazing race result. Congrats on the BQ.

17 - Way to fight through all your recent issues.

Props - You really need to take up biking. Just too damn hot to run in the desert.

 

[Sand]

http://bloodsweatandgears.racesonline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=site.display&page_id=5285

I am again in awe of your insanity.

 

[tri-man 47]

http://bloodsweatandgears.racesonline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=site.display&page_id=5285

I am again in awe of your insanity.

Amen to that. Say, I just saw a blurb that Lance Armstrong just won his second straight half-IM - first Florida, now Hawaii. Wow.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Got 4 miles in today gentlemen...nice and slow...just over 8 minutes a mile.

 

[Sand]

http://bloodsweatandgears.racesonline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=site.display&page_id=5285

I am again in awe of your insanity.

Amen to that. Say, I just saw a blurb that Lance Armstrong just won his second straight half-IM - first Florida, now Hawaii. Wow.

Set a bike course record and smashed the overall course record by 7 minutes. His last three 70.3 races have been 2nd, 1st, 1st. Kona should be incredibly interesting!

 

[BRONG]

...this chick I was about to pass at the very end was SO HOT

...and her pictures can be found where?!!!!

Someone mentioned to do this before but I wasn't sure what it meant...or how to do it. You mean those race pictures companies do, maybe? I'm not sure where to find that but I'll ask.

 

[MAC_32]

Nice and easy 5 miles yesterday, 37 mins, capped it with 15 mins of abs. It was harder on my legs than anything as I was still thoroughly beaten from the interval sprint workout Sunday. Taking today off, lifting only, probably doing my long run tomorrow.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Since GPS watches came up again...

I think I've settled on buying the Garmin 610. I've seen some negative reviews about the battery but I think I'm going to take my chances. Anyone want to talk me out of it? I looked into the Motorola one Ned suggested a few weeks ago but I'm really not interested in the MP3 half of it.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Luddite.Back on the horse today. Swam a 5 mile run at lunch - just finished raining through the morning, so it was literally 80F/95%RH. I almost sweated through my shoes and started leaving sweat footprints. Pace was pedestrian, but I intended it to be light. Swam 2000 tonight, with a consecutive 1:08 100, 2:24 200, and 6:34 500 efforts. The 200 was good, but I sucked it up on the 500.

It's not that he's a Luddite, it's just really difficult to carry an 8-track player while running. Your pedestrian efforts in the water make my best efforts look pedestrian :finger:

http://bloodsweatandgears.racesonline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=site.display&page_id=5285

Mile 55-60 looks hellish. Can't wait to read about it!

Amen to that. Say, I just saw a blurb that Lance Armstrong just won his second straight half-IM - first Florida, now Hawaii. Wow.

He is going to kill Kona. He's getting stronger on both the bike and run portions. Insane.

Got 4 miles in today gentlemen...nice and slow...just over 8 minutes a mile.

Good to hear that you are back at it. Take your time.

Someone mentioned to do this before but I wasn't sure what it meant...or how to do it. You mean those race pictures companies do, maybe? I'm not sure where to find that but I'll ask.

Rule #1 of the 10k thread; IF you see a hotty during a race, remember her bib #. Once the race is completed and the photos from the race are up, it is your duty to the rest of us to link to the photo site, and to give us the best bib #'s to stalk. Read the manual people!!!

Nice and easy 5 miles yesterday, 37 mins, capped it with 15 mins of abs. It was harder on my legs than anything as I was still thoroughly beaten from the interval sprint workout Sunday. Taking today off, lifting only, probably doing my long run tomorrow.

Keep at the core work!!! It will pay off in helping you to maintain your form.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Since GPS watches came up again...

I think I've settled on buying the Garmin 610. I've seen some negative reviews about the battery but I think I'm going to take my chances. Anyone want to talk me out of it? I looked into the Motorola one Ned suggested a few weeks ago but I'm really not interested in the MP3 half of it.

The 610 is nice though I prefer the buttons to the touch screen, and the bigger screen on the 305 is really nice. Garmin also hasn't done good bike mounts on any of their watches since the 305. IF you want to ever use it for Tri's and keep it on your bike, the 305 is the only Garmin that you can effortlessly transition with. Wireless transfer would be a big benefit to the 610, and it supposedly picks up satellite signals much faster than the 305.Edited to add: I just found this great review of the 610.

 

[Sand]

Must be contagious. Talked to Mini Chad yesterday. On a whim (no water, no gels, no plan), he went for a 15+ mile run yesterday (surprising no one). Only difference, he is not in denial and is planning on signing up for RnR Arizona and doing the full in January with a buddy of his who is 6'11", so the photos should be interesting.

Maybe I missed this - did MiniChad do his marathon?

 

[pigskinliquors]

Any cyclists have opinions on the Edge 800? My 305 has been an awesome soldier, but I think it's time to get mapping. I'd also like the maps for my motorcycle and want input on how well it would work for that.

 

[Kuz]

Running my 2nd ever 5K on Saturday - should I take a few days off before or keep running the next couple of days & just take Friday off?

not sure if I'm supposed to rest my legs for a few day for a 5K or not..

 

[IvanKaramazov]

And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run?

I always listen to music when I'm on a treadmill, and most of the time when I'm on a track. I've also started with music when I'm running on/around campus during time windows when there's very little traffic (holidays, weekends). For most runs around my town, though, I think it's just too dangerous to have music going due to traffic issues. It used to be that I never listened to music during races, but now I do pretty much always except for marathons -- I worry that tunes would get on my nerves toward the end, and the course tends to be really congested in the beginning, so I'd just as soon go without.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Running my 2nd ever 5K on Saturday - should I take a few days off before or keep running the next couple of days & just take Friday off?not sure if I'm supposed to rest my legs for a few day for a 5K or not..

This sort of thing will vary from person to person. Some people will run normally (nothing too long or too fast) the day before a 5K. Some will take the day before off. I doubt anybody does any more rest than that.

 

[MAC_32]

And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run?

99% of my runs are outside, even in the heart of winter, and I always have music - it keeps me focused. More dangerous? Yea, but I think the reward outweighs the risk. My times are noticably slower when I run without music.

 

[MAC_32]

Running my 2nd ever 5K on Saturday - should I take a few days off before or keep running the next couple of days & just take Friday off?not sure if I'm supposed to rest my legs for a few day for a 5K or not..

You shouldn't need more than 1 day of rest - some go for a light jog to loosen up the legs and others take it off. Personally, I go really hard the Wednesday before a Saturday 5k (if possible I'll time myself on the course), dial it back Thursday (4-5 miles at 75%), and just go for a short + light jog and do a short core workout the day before.

 

[Kuz]

Running my 2nd ever 5K on Saturday - should I take a few days off before or keep running the next couple of days & just take Friday off?not sure if I'm supposed to rest my legs for a few day for a 5K or not..

You shouldn't need more than 1 day of rest - some go for a light jog to loosen up the legs and others take it off. Personally, I go really hard the Wednesday before a Saturday 5k (if possible I'll time myself on the course), dial it back Thursday (4-5 miles at 75%), and just go for a short + light jog and do a short core workout the day before.

Thanks - sounds good...

 

[Ned]

Running my 2nd ever 5K on Saturday - should I take a few days off before or keep running the next couple of days & just take Friday off?not sure if I'm supposed to rest my legs for a few day for a 5K or not..

You shouldn't need more than 1 day of rest - some go for a light jog to loosen up the legs and others take it off. Personally, I go really hard the Wednesday before a Saturday 5k (if possible I'll time myself on the course), dial it back Thursday (4-5 miles at 75%), and just go for a short + light jog and do a short core workout the day before.

I think this should be experience/fitness driven. Someone just starting out probably can't do this, but a well seasoned runner would have no problem with it. Being it's his 2nd ever 5K, I'd err on the side of caution and run a few moderate runs this wekk and then take the day before completely off.

 

[beer 302]

Thanks... this is probably a dumb question. But are the watches themselves heart rate monitors? Or do you NEED the chest strap?

Yes, as has been mentioned, premium chest strap. Don't mess with a cheap HRM on a watch, does nothing for you.I listen to music on every run. I have been running through my daily devotions to start my runs recently and have found that is a neat way to get going, flip on the tunes around the second mile and rock out till I get home. If you are anything like me, fully infested with adult ADD, I have to have something to keep me occupied.

 

[sho nuff]

And I'm sure this has probably been covered in this thread, but we're talking 600 pages ... but do many of you guys listen to music while you run?

99% of my runs are outside, even in the heart of winter, and I always have music - it keeps me focused. More dangerous? Yea, but I think the reward outweighs the risk. My times are noticably slower when I run without music.

Thankfully I run on pretty low traffic roads and in neighborhoods.I generally wear earbuds and only have one in anyway (the one away from the road) so that I do hear whats going on in the road as much as I can and still enjoy the music. Much of the time Im so zoned out on the running I don't even know what is playing.

 

[sho nuff]

Running my 2nd ever 5K on Saturday - should I take a few days off before or keep running the next couple of days & just take Friday off?not sure if I'm supposed to rest my legs for a few day for a 5K or not..

You shouldn't need more than 1 day of rest - some go for a light jog to loosen up the legs and others take it off. Personally, I go really hard the Wednesday before a Saturday 5k (if possible I'll time myself on the course), dial it back Thursday (4-5 miles at 75%), and just go for a short + light jog and do a short core workout the day before.

I think this should be experience/fitness driven. Someone just starting out probably can't do this, but a well seasoned runner would have no problem with it. Being it's his 2nd ever 5K, I'd err on the side of caution and run a few moderate runs this wekk and then take the day before completely off.

Usually my plan. I will go hard on the monday (my usual speed/interval day anyway) and then really run almost my normal week. Other than cutting out a tempo run on Wednesday if that was on the schedule. Recovery thursday...off Friday.Get out for a nice warm up before the 5k with some srides to wake up the muscles and Im good to go.

 

[sho nuff]

Back at it today with 1 up...6X800 m (all between 3:50 and 3:57) and less than 400 m jog in between.

Took the kids out to a local track and had them doing laps on their bikes. They loved it as I zoomed by them and my daughter tried catching me.

Of course, that lasted for probably 2 of the intervals. Then had to set them up with their bubbles and sidewalk chalk for a bit.

Now its pool time.

 

[SteelCurtain]

This thread is picking up the pace with some new posters. Love it!

Lots of good runs going on. Keep it up!

Kuz - take it easy this week. I'm siding with Ned on this one. easy runs Wednesday and Thursday. Take Friday off. Have fun on Saturday. If possible, your goal is to improve the time from your first 5K. Go get em! And be sure to let us know how it went.

GPS discussion -- I'm a fan of the Garmin 305. I know it looks super dorky, but I don't really care. I'm over 40 and married. I'm not picking up chicks! I like the big screen and the HRM strap.

Did you see this thread in the FFA?

John Bender -- if it was just me, I'd crash at your place. I'm bringing my wife, so I've already got a hotel for Philadelphia Marathon. Let's keep talking. Maybe I should plan on staying Sunday night as well if a bunch of us want to get together post race.

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MY update -- my first run post marathon. I planned on running 3 easy ones. I started and my legs were ready to go. Did my first half mile in 8:22 pace....but then felt my shins feeling like shin splints were coming on, so I quickly dialed it back and finished 2.1 miles at 9:17 pace. No need to get hurt now. I'll try again on Thursday hopefully....work very busy this week so it may not happen.

 

[Sean]

Late congrats to all this past weekends racers. Great stuff guys.

Did something to my back on Saturday (not sure what - just turned slightly and it tightened up on me) and haven't run since last Thursday. It is still a little sore today but I'm going to attempt an easy run tonight. Def making me a little nervous for my race on Thursday.