tri-man 47
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I ran stair reps of a nearby five-story parking garage just this a.m. What I need to do is follow some the gang here and be more disciplined about some LT runs.
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I ran stair reps of a nearby five-story parking garage just this a.m. What I need to do is follow some the gang here and be more disciplined about some LT runs.benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Got through 4 miles again, 7:50 pace. Calves got really tight again.
I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.
Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.
Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
John Bender
Footballguy
Week 3; Day 2 of my injury recovery/reclamation project in the books.
GLTA this week
GLTA this week
Sand
Footballguy
John Bender
Footballguy
BassNBrew - how has that Walkman held up for you?
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Calf sleeves, I prefer 2XUs and run about 1/3 of a mile as warm up and then stretch. Use a curb to drop one calf for about a ten to fifteen count and then drop the other. Never drop both at the same time as you can put too much strain on both if you drop both at the same time.Got through 4 miles again, 7:50 pace. Calves got really tight again.I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
sho nuff
Footballguy
Was hoping to get out for 5 recovery miles today after the trip to the zoo with the family...but a trip to the doctor confirmed the sinus infection and drugs have me sapped for energy.
No breathing out of my nose...head feels like its 100 lbs...sore throat...the whole deal.
Hopefully a day and a half or so on antibiotics and some ibuprofen in the morning will get me back out on the road tomorrow night.
No breathing out of my nose...head feels like its 100 lbs...sore throat...the whole deal.
Hopefully a day and a half or so on antibiotics and some ibuprofen in the morning will get me back out on the road tomorrow night.
Ned
Footballguy
On the iPad so it's hard to trim that much quoted, but I like it PSL. I completely agree about ploy, kenpo, cardio X.
If you wanted to add a Pfitz twist to what PSL suggested, replace the weekday bikes with 5mi recovery runs and then do a GA run on Saturday and your right in that 50mi wheelhouse.
Hmmm....
If you wanted to add a Pfitz twist to what PSL suggested, replace the weekday bikes with 5mi recovery runs and then do a GA run on Saturday and your right in that 50mi wheelhouse.
Hmmm....
Ned
Footballguy
Calf sleeves, I prefer 2XUs and run about 1/3 of a mile as warm up and then stretch. Use a curb to drop one calf for about a ten to fifteen count and then drop the other. Never drop both at the same time as you can put too much strain on both if you drop both at the same time.Got through 4 miles again, 7:50 pace. Calves got really tight again.I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
Zensah is also a solid option for calf sleeves. I will put them on after a run any time I get even a sliver of calf twinges. They were life savers when I fought thru Achilles tendinitis.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Not quite there yet. Coaching baseball is making it tough, but man this has been a fun season so far. And, with my son starting High School next year, this just might be the last team I coach. Between both kids, I've coached somewhere around 25 teams in different sports. Had me a bit misty thinking about this the other day.As for tris, I have multi-sport events each of the next three weekends and have been training hard, but the bike has always been what is sacrificed when other stuff gets in the way. This weekend I have the 5K run 5K kayak Du. I went out in high winds on Sunday and hard paddled for a full 5K and I think I WAY underestimated how hard this is going to be. Plus, I thought I was flying, only to see a guy fly by in what look to be a kayak created by NASA scientists. Guess I bought a slow kayak. Oh well, it'll still be fun to try something new.Week from Sunday is the annual Motor City Triathlon and I am in for the Oly. My Oly PR of 2:30 is more than safe, but I am hoping my Oly swim PR of just over 28 minutes will fall. Three weeks out is a sprint tri where I've won my AG twice. I am hoping racing my way in to race shape will have me primed for this one.
Survived 40 mi / 8+ hr to the top of Mt. Mitchell and back in -30 wind chill. Had alot of your music rolling (and maybe even ear funk) to get me thru. Love that it's basically water proof and no wires.
Don't stretch beforehand. Only does damage unless you warm up the muscles first.Got through 4 miles again, 7:50 pace. Calves got really tight again.I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
Just change your name to sandbagger and be done with it. You're going to look back and kick yourself for not doing this.Rode 34 tonite. Was supposed to be 36 but the new Mich Pro3 blew out the sidewall and I had to hitch a ride home. Do you think they'll replace it?You guys consistently (and vastly) overestimate my abilities. I have a sprint tri on Saturday and a du on Sunday. Gonna be an epic weekend.
6/6/2012 6:32 PM
Distance 33.73 mi
Riding Time 1:39:50
Cals Burned 1378 kcal
Avg Max
Power 240.7 726 W
Speed 20.3 35 mi/h
Wind 19.9 34 mi/h
Caden 70.2 94 rpm
HR 153.1 169 bpm
Climbing 1534 ft
Elev 596 to 826 ft
Slope -7.5 to 11.4%
I haven't riden in a 10 days which isn't good coming into a century. I guess I'm on the quick start, short taper program. All the running in the winter and spring has turned me into a total grinder. Feel more comfortable at 60-70 rpms and suffer when I get over 80.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Thanks guys...this is frustrating, but glad I have help along the way.'Ned said:'2Young2BBald said:Calf sleeves, I prefer 2XUs and run about 1/3 of a mile as warm up and then stretch. Use a curb to drop one calf for about a ten to fifteen count and then drop the other. Never drop both at the same time as you can put too much strain on both if you drop both at the same time.'benson_will_lead_the_way said:Got through 4 miles again, 7:50 pace. Calves got really tight again.I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
MAC_32
Footballguy
How's your foot strike? do you stay on the balls of your feet? That could be it, the easy solution anyway. Poor/old shoes could also be it. If neither of those it's probably your running form. The slightest technique issue can cause an already weaker muscle group to become an issue. Could be anything from slumped shoulders as you fatigue to one of your feet landing at a different angle than your other one - there's a technical term for this but it's slipped my mind.'benson_will_lead_the_way said:Got through 4 miles again, 7:50 pace. Calves got really tight again.I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
I upped my long run from 7 to 8 today, picked up a notch too after taking yesterday off. Got done in an even hour. Legs are on fire, but in a good way. Tomorrow's a lifting day, but I'll get an easy jog in - would like 4 or 5 but we'll see how the legs are feeling as I won't be adverse to even less if they're still barking at me. Very pleased with my progress the last 3 weeks.benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I read the book "Born to Run" and he talked about mid striking. Although during my run today, I wondered if i'm running too much on the balls of my feet. I have brand new shoes(under 150 miles between 3 pairs of shoes...with 100 miles on the one pair).How's your foot strike? do you stay on the balls of your feet? That could be it, the easy solution anyway. Poor/old shoes could also be it. If neither of those it's probably your running form. The slightest technique issue can cause an already weaker muscle group to become an issue. Could be anything from slumped shoulders as you fatigue to one of your feet landing at a different angle than your other one - there's a technical term for this but it's slipped my mind.'benson_will_lead_the_way said:Got through 4 miles again, 7:50 pace. Calves got really tight again.I stretched out before hand....used that foam roller....and they still tighten up.Any tips? Maybe i'm not using the roller correctly
AcerFC
Footballguy
Did Interval training today. 8 400s with 60 seconds in between each one
1.05 warm up 9:52, HR 146
1- 137, HR 168
2- 136, HR 170
3- 132, HR 177
4- 138, HR 175
5- 139, HR 174
6- 140, HR 176
7- 142, HR 175
8- 137, HR 176
Cool down 1 mile 10:02, HR 161
Not bad. I probably eased up on 6 and 7. Need to get mentally tougher at the end and stay with it.
1.05 warm up 9:52, HR 146
1- 137, HR 168
2- 136, HR 170
3- 132, HR 177
4- 138, HR 175
5- 139, HR 174
6- 140, HR 176
7- 142, HR 175
8- 137, HR 176
Cool down 1 mile 10:02, HR 161
Not bad. I probably eased up on 6 and 7. Need to get mentally tougher at the end and stay with it.
Sand
Footballguy
There's always next year. I'm in no hurry. And it is sold out, anyway.Nice ride, BTW. 240W over 34 miles is just massive.'BassNBrew said:Just change your name to sandbagger and be done with it. You're going to look back and kick yourself for not doing this.Rode 34 tonite. Was supposed to be 36 but the new Mich Pro3 blew out the sidewall and I had to hitch a ride home. Do you think they'll replace it?'Sand said:'2Young2BBald said:
6/6/2012 6:32 PM
Distance 33.73 mi
Riding Time 1:39:50
Cals Burned 1378 kcal
Avg Max
Power 240.7 726 W
Speed 20.3 35 mi/h
Wind 19.9 34 mi/h
Caden 70.2 94 rpm
HR 153.1 169 bpm
Climbing 1534 ft
Elev 596 to 826 ft
Slope -7.5 to 11.4%
I haven't riden in a 10 days which isn't good coming into a century. I guess I'm on the quick start, short taper program. All the running in the winter and spring has turned me into a total grinder. Feel more comfortable at 60-70 rpms and suffer when I get over 80.
pmbrown_22
Footballguy
It scares the bejesus out of me as well. I figure that there is a strong possibility of me crashing and burning pretty hard on this. I don't have either workout so I would have to take your guys words on it. My thought is that I just want to get leaner and get a little more toned. I am not sure that I would follow the diet portion anyway, but it would be a good base for what I am looking at doing.Much like everything else right now, time is going to be the biggest factor for me with getting runs and workouts in, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.'Ned said:If you wanted to do the full blown P90x schedule, I don't think I'd last more than a few weeks. Unless you're PSL, of course.'pmbrown_22 said:I could see some sort of mix where you worked in the core CDs on recovery (run) days - Chest/Back, Shoulders/Arms, etc. I've toyed with this idea and every time it scared the crap outta me.
Thinking about 50 mile weeks plus P90x just sounds insane. The other thought was to use the Core Synergistics CD on recovery days. That's an easier workout, but would still be a good cross training opportunity.
If you do this, let me know how it goes. I'd love to try this, but I'm too chicken to be the guinea pig.
ETA: Don't forget what Tony always preaches. Be sure to stay on top of your fuel (food). Adding marathon training to P90x is going to blow a hole in any sort of nutrition plan they'd give you in the P90x book.
I agree with you guys that I would not be able to do the entire workout every day, but I would love a hybrid. With putting in 70 miles for the week it is going to be tough, but I am thinking that sleep is really overrated anyway so why not just workout/run all the time.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Awesome that you've put that much time in coaching for your kids!!! You'll never get that time back, and you've made the most of it. If Tri-Man has taught us one thing, it is that all of this racing stuff can be done for a long time, and that family should always come first'2Young2BBald said:
Biking unfortunately is a key to speed in tri's (with Oly's being a possible exception)as you can make up or lose a ton of time.re: buying a slow kayak = I think I might have purchased slow goggles as that's the same feeling I have swimming
That cadence has to be putting a major strain on your quads. What was your cadence like before all your running?'BassNBrew said:Just change your name to sandbagger and be done with it. You're going to look back and kick yourself for not doing this.Rode 34 tonite. Was supposed to be 36 but the new Mich Pro3 blew out the sidewall and I had to hitch a ride home. Do you think they'll replace it?'Sand said:'2Young2BBald said:
6/6/2012 6:32 PM
Distance 33.73 mi
Riding Time 1:39:50
Cals Burned 1378 kcal
Avg Max
Power 240.7 726 W
Speed 20.3 35 mi/h
Wind 19.9 34 mi/h
Caden 70.2 94 rpm
HR 153.1 169 bpm
Climbing 1534 ft
Elev 596 to 826 ft
Slope -7.5 to 11.4%
I haven't riden in a 10 days which isn't good coming into a century. I guess I'm on the quick start, short taper program. All the running in the winter and spring has turned me into a total grinder. Feel more comfortable at 60-70 rpms and suffer when I get over 80.
I still don't see the need to get to even 50 miles let alone 70. Sleep/rest is unfortunately too ofter underrated. Running is just one way to get into shape and to increase stamina; and your joints take a major beating to do it. Had I found multi-sport, P90x, Cross Fit and cross trained more when I was younger, I could possibly be running today. I hate to say it, but now that I'm not a "runner" I feel a hell of a lot better physically than ever before. Six months ago I was in the worst shape of my life, and now I'm in the best shape of my life w/o having run more than 1 mile at a time. In many ways I feel blessed that my hips weren't made to sustain running. I'd likely still be pounding the pavement and not training my entire body. _____________________________
My update:
I did my back, to back to back last night = P90x cardio -> Ab Ripper -> Cross Fit. Cardio is my least favorite P90x workout, but it was a necessary evil. The cross fit workout was with a partner with 1 partner completing as many reps as they could while the other partner rested. It was a race against other groups. I did the workout with my ex. We completed our last workout prior to any other group even starting. The workout (with my rep's in () was :
100 pushups (did 60)
run .5 miles (ex ran)
100 situps (did 60)
run .5 miles (I ran)
100 squats (did 50)
run .5 miles (ex ran)
100 wall balls (did 60)
run .5 miles (I ran)
100 kettlebell swings (did 50)
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jb1020
Footballguy
Thanks guys, good as new.It probably just needs a hard reset. I don't remember how to do it, but the manual is available at garmin's website.With all the GPS talk, my 305 must have gotten jealous and decided to crap out on me. The screen was completely dead this morning. Hit the power button, nothing...put it back on the charger...nothing.
Hasn't that happened to a few people here lately? I haven't even had that thing a year, and I just threw out the ####### box
I will admit it was quite liberating running without the thing this morning. I know i did my 4 mile route, but dont have the slightest clue what my pace was.
pmbrown_22
Footballguy
I have been wondering this more and more as I am getting a bit older. I know the high miles are not necessary to finish the marathon, but I feel like they are if I am going to try and qualify at some point. Maybe even this fall. I was in the best shape of my life two years ago when I was doing my core work semi-regularly and running. It was just hard to sustain over the whole cycle, but I was right there. I think that if I cut back on the miles and ramped up the workouts just a bit, my fitness would have taken off.My other option is to just train for a half, cut my miles and do the workouts (P90 or Insanity) and see where that gets me. The flip side is that I too will be doing a little coaching this summer as well as moving to a new house so time is going to be limited. What else is new.
gruecd
Footballguy
Disagree.I mean, if your only goal is physical fitness, then fine, but if you're trying to maximize your running performance, then mileage is key, IMHO.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I'm totally enjoying my running resurgence and the fact that I'm running at speeds that I haven't seen in over a dozen years. I'll stay at this for another two years due to my busy schedule, however, I miss the cross-training - the regular strength work, the swimming for sure, the biking somewhat. And really, I believe one of the reasons I'm having some running success now is that I never did continual high mileage in my early years - I think my longest race back in the day was 10 miles! There's both a physical and mental aspect to that fact. This CARA race circuit has been interesting, but I can already tell that I'm seeing a lot of the same faces, particularly in my AG (where I'm firmly in 4th place).
I find myself looking forward to the smaller 4th of July race, where I could run top 10 and have a shot at top masters ...and really looking forward to the crazy fall trail relay with 2Young and the guys.A bottom line is whether to do a run-focus and achieve top times or cross-train and use that training to still run at 90% of running potential ...while enjoying the other events. To each his own!
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
= how quickly you take each step. Many people recommend 180+ steps per minute is best for maximizing performance. Here's a quick article on it. I use 90 rpm's for cycling and the elliptical as well.
IF running performance is your ONLY goal than 70+ is likely needed. Other goals that I have include: being healthy, being fit, being happy, looking good, and feeling good. For all of these goals I'd argue that cross training is superior than running 70+ . From my experience of being a runner for most of my life, and now a cross-trainer; I'm certain I'm closer to all of my mentioned goals now than I was as a run-goal person.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Right leg is a little tender behind my knee today, probably a product of what I was feeling towards the end of my 8 miler last night - started feeling more pressure on my feet and right hammy was burning a little more than the left. Isn't too bothersome, but do feel a little off kilter. Probably dial back to an easy 4 today before a scheduled off day tomorrow. Hope for a more intense weekend - would like to do a trial 5k Saturday then a solid 5 Sunday. We'll see how the legs are doing tomorrow and Saturday.
Already feel lighter, stronger, faster, and more effortless running so things are looking up!
Already feel lighter, stronger, faster, and more effortless running so things are looking up!
koby925
Footballguy
Generally I agree that increased mileage is better for performance but people have to cater this to their own individual bodies. Some people do better on lower but more intense training, some vice versa. Also, if your goal is performance in local 5ks, I wouldn't say 70+ miles is NEEDED. Halfs and Marathons, I'd agree.
koby925
Footballguy
The calf sleeves are great. I balked at the idea about a year ago because they look kinda goofy but after seeing a friend who was a good competitive runner have to retire in his early 30s and then getting countless calf strains myself, I was scared into trying them. Been wearing them 8-9 months and have had great results - no strains that have kept me from running since. I wear them on almost every speed workout or race and on the day after these runs. I even wear them around work under my dress pants some days. And now I've even grown to kinda dig the look
Ned
Footballguy
Easy 5mi recovery yesterday. Felt silky smooth. 9:51/132
Did an 8mi GA run today and didn't feel so good. Just overall sluggish and weak. The sun beat me up, but I was hoping I'd feel a little better than this being 3 days out from the HM. Hopefully its just shaking out the cobwebs. 8:46/157
We're heading out tomorrow for a long weekend with the family for a camping trip and then hitting up the HM on Sunday morning. The race is on the AFB I was stationed at when I was reserve/active. My old unit just so happens to be drilling this weekend, so I'm hoping to catch up with a few of the guys after the race. It's going to be surreal to step foot back on the base after being out for 6 years now. The race is a tiny race (~100 for the HM) and is on what they are touting as the 'fastest HM course in DE'. So it should be interesting.
Did an 8mi GA run today and didn't feel so good. Just overall sluggish and weak. The sun beat me up, but I was hoping I'd feel a little better than this being 3 days out from the HM. Hopefully its just shaking out the cobwebs. 8:46/157
We're heading out tomorrow for a long weekend with the family for a camping trip and then hitting up the HM on Sunday morning. The race is on the AFB I was stationed at when I was reserve/active. My old unit just so happens to be drilling this weekend, so I'm hoping to catch up with a few of the guys after the race. It's going to be surreal to step foot back on the base after being out for 6 years now. The race is a tiny race (~100 for the HM) and is on what they are touting as the 'fastest HM course in DE'. So it should be interesting.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Just received an interesting email (from an RD whose events I am not even signed up for). Looks like this could be due to the recent Green Bay in race cancellation that bit Jux:
Dear Athlete,
There’s been some concernin the past with the process by which we determine if to cancel the triathlon(or not) based on the weather. This year I’d like to make our weatherpolicy as clear as possible considering that some of it will always be ajudgment call. First and foremost; safety is always our top priority andwill never be compromised simply to get through an event.
We are following the USA Triathlon (USAT) guidelines forinclement weather. Ultimately only four remedies exist:
[*]Change of race start time on the scheduled date (delays)
[*]Modification of the race format (dropping one leg of the event; like the swim for example)
[*]Change of the race date (last year’s re-du-duathlon for example)
[*]Cancellation of the event
The remedy selected willbe solely at the discretion of the Race Director and based upon the severityand length of any of the following weather conditions: Lightening, Heavy Rains,Wind & Tornadoes, Extreme Heat and/or Ice & Snow (This IS Michiganafter all).
[*]The first response to inclement weather is to delay the start by 30 minutes. This also means that the swim portion of the event will be cancelled.
[*]The second response is to delay the start by 60 minutes. At the end of 60 minutes the event will start in some type of modified fashion or it will be cancelled entirely. There cannot be a delay longer than 60 minutes due to the permits, the police, park and volunteer schedules.
The final, gut-wrenchingdecision always belongs to me, the Race Director. As an athlete andcompetitor I want nothing more than for the race to go on. But I cannot,in good conscience, let an event continue where I could put someone indanger. This is a charity event, and we really want it to succeed for thekids’ charities that we support, but safetycomes first. We know that if weather is an issue again this yearthat this event could be done… and the kids wouldn’t get the funding. That would be a shame. As the actress/writer Ilka Chase put it; “Among famous traitors ofhistory one might mention the weather”.
So it’s still going tocome down to common sense and my judgment in the end. And I hope you canappreciate just how hard that call can be! There are, however a fewconditions that can be explicitly stated:
[*]Lightening: The rule is you must have 30 minutes of clear (no lightning sightings) skies from the last time you saw it in order to start a race. It doesn’t matter how near or far the storm. If you can see it, start your watches and count!
[*]Tornado Warning: All race activities will cease immediately and the event will be cancelled.
I hope that as athletesand (likely) residents of Michigan you are at least somewhat accustomed to ourcrazy and unpredictable weather. And I hope that you’ll take that same acceptingand understanding spirit that gets you through every Michigan Winter to theMillennium Park Triathlon this year.
Please feel free tocontact me at info@millenniumtriathlon.com with anyquestions, comments or concerns.
May the sun smile upon usall (but not too hotly),
Jim Conner,
Race Director
Millennium Park Triathlon
Dear Athlete,
There’s been some concernin the past with the process by which we determine if to cancel the triathlon(or not) based on the weather. This year I’d like to make our weatherpolicy as clear as possible considering that some of it will always be ajudgment call. First and foremost; safety is always our top priority andwill never be compromised simply to get through an event.
We are following the USA Triathlon (USAT) guidelines forinclement weather. Ultimately only four remedies exist:
[*]Change of race start time on the scheduled date (delays)
[*]Modification of the race format (dropping one leg of the event; like the swim for example)
[*]Change of the race date (last year’s re-du-duathlon for example)
[*]Cancellation of the event
The remedy selected willbe solely at the discretion of the Race Director and based upon the severityand length of any of the following weather conditions: Lightening, Heavy Rains,Wind & Tornadoes, Extreme Heat and/or Ice & Snow (This IS Michiganafter all).
[*]The first response to inclement weather is to delay the start by 30 minutes. This also means that the swim portion of the event will be cancelled.
[*]The second response is to delay the start by 60 minutes. At the end of 60 minutes the event will start in some type of modified fashion or it will be cancelled entirely. There cannot be a delay longer than 60 minutes due to the permits, the police, park and volunteer schedules.
The final, gut-wrenchingdecision always belongs to me, the Race Director. As an athlete andcompetitor I want nothing more than for the race to go on. But I cannot,in good conscience, let an event continue where I could put someone indanger. This is a charity event, and we really want it to succeed for thekids’ charities that we support, but safetycomes first. We know that if weather is an issue again this yearthat this event could be done… and the kids wouldn’t get the funding. That would be a shame. As the actress/writer Ilka Chase put it; “Among famous traitors ofhistory one might mention the weather”.
So it’s still going tocome down to common sense and my judgment in the end. And I hope you canappreciate just how hard that call can be! There are, however a fewconditions that can be explicitly stated:
[*]Lightening: The rule is you must have 30 minutes of clear (no lightning sightings) skies from the last time you saw it in order to start a race. It doesn’t matter how near or far the storm. If you can see it, start your watches and count!
[*]Tornado Warning: All race activities will cease immediately and the event will be cancelled.
I hope that as athletesand (likely) residents of Michigan you are at least somewhat accustomed to ourcrazy and unpredictable weather. And I hope that you’ll take that same acceptingand understanding spirit that gets you through every Michigan Winter to theMillennium Park Triathlon this year.
Please feel free tocontact me at info@millenniumtriathlon.com with anyquestions, comments or concerns.
May the sun smile upon usall (but not too hotly),
Jim Conner,
Race Director
Millennium Park Triathlon
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Been running as exercise for about a year. Haven't done any races or anything yet. Just picked up a heart rate monitor to pair w/ my phone to start working with that.
Did a "fast" (for me at least) run on the treadmill to try and get my max heart rate. Did a 5k in 22min. HR topped out at 182 during the run, which seemed low (I'm 29), so I sprinted for another minute after that and got the HR up to 191.
Strapped on the HR strap when I woke up in the morning and have a resting HR in the mid to low 50's.
First run with the HR monitor was 7.0 mi yesterday on the treadmill in 57:50.
Here's the HR graph for the run:
HR 2012-06-6
I'm still reading up on how to best use it. Endomondo's energy calculations when using the HR monitor were very different than without it. Normally it says I use up around 850 calories on a 7 mile run but with the HR monitor in that number was only 620 calories.
Did a "fast" (for me at least) run on the treadmill to try and get my max heart rate. Did a 5k in 22min. HR topped out at 182 during the run, which seemed low (I'm 29), so I sprinted for another minute after that and got the HR up to 191.
Strapped on the HR strap when I woke up in the morning and have a resting HR in the mid to low 50's.
First run with the HR monitor was 7.0 mi yesterday on the treadmill in 57:50.
Here's the HR graph for the run:
HR 2012-06-6
I'm still reading up on how to best use it. Endomondo's energy calculations when using the HR monitor were very different than without it. Normally it says I use up around 850 calories on a 7 mile run but with the HR monitor in that number was only 620 calories.
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beer 302
Footballguy
When in doubt I've always used the old 100 calories per mile theory so your numbers are probably somewhere in between. I'd defer to the runners in this thread but as you HR increases I'd guess your caloric burn would go up as well just don't know by how much.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
You just blew my mind (I had never heard this before). I took a look at this against my recent Garmin data and, if Garmin data is even reasonably close, this is spot on for me for runs (and kayak too):Distance/Calories
3.11/322
4.01/388
3.01/312 Trail Run after a 30 mile ride
13.31/1607 Trail Race
7.71/914 hilly and hot and 1/2 on trails
13.45/1624 Trail Race
9.97/1034 Trail Run
9.01/1137
10K/579
5.60/572 Trail Race
John Bender
Footballguy
'BassNBrew said:
I only wore it once good bud and I got rid of it because it didn't fit in my ears. Should be good!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Huh! I've got to look back now, also. Remember though, 2Young, your calories are a little smaller than some of ours.FreeBagel - your HR numbers are very similar to mine - resting rate below 60; max around 190. I do my easy runs in the 140s. Recent 5K races have been in the mid/high 170s; 10 mile and half-marathon races have been in the low 170s. Your results may vary, of course. But HR data is a great tool to use!
sho nuff
Footballguy
Day 2 of this and it sucks.
Has been a while since I have had the full blown sinus infection...but doing almost anything completely wears me out.
Went to Target with the kids earlier and came home and played a few games with them and have been useless the rest of the day.
Has been a while since I have had the full blown sinus infection...but doing almost anything completely wears me out.
Went to Target with the kids earlier and came home and played a few games with them and have been useless the rest of the day.
17seconds
root of all aliai
I was reading the Runner's World forums and lots of people on there go 70+ training for a half! That's ####### crazy. I mean, if I had all the time in the world maybe I'd get there. The hardest part about marathon training is the logistics of getting all your runs in. I could never do that for all races, and I could never do it at the 70mi+ level. It's a once-a-year thing for a few months.My dedication to other parts of life was suffering trying to get 55 in a week.
At 70+ all year, every thought must be how you can get your next run in.
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Sand
Footballguy
Wusses. In my New Orleans race it is anticipated to be 80F/85%RH at race start at 7am. Funny enough I haven't gotten an email about cancellation possibilities.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Welcome to the clubThe calf sleeves are great. I balked at the idea about a year ago because they look kinda goofy but after seeing a friend who was a good competitive runner have to retire in his early 30s and then getting countless calf strains myself, I was scared into trying them. Been wearing them 8-9 months and have had great results - no strains that have kept me from running since. I wear them on almost every speed workout or race and on the day after these runs. I even wear them around work under my dress pants some days. And now I've even grown to kinda dig the look
The number of calf strains I had prior to them vs. after was a dramatic difference. I swear by them
A lot of good stuff in there Ned. Enjoy your race and your old unit. Funny saying the last part of that sentence without talking about Tri-Man.Easy 5mi recovery yesterday. Felt silky smooth. 9:51/132Did an 8mi GA run today and didn't feel so good. Just overall sluggish and weak. The sun beat me up, but I was hoping I'd feel a little better than this being 3 days out from the HM. Hopefully its just shaking out the cobwebs. 8:46/157
Giddy-up Sean!!! Congrat's on what it is hopefully your first of many races! ______________________________My update:I just did Back and Legs today as an official workout, though I also ice skated with my kids and three of my neighbors' kids for 4 straight hours today. I'll likely be sore tomorrow, but was paid back in Aces by all the smiles and giggles I witnessed.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Wait, what?Sean - congrats on race #1 !!!!!A lot of good stuff in there Ned. Enjoy your race and your old unit. Funny saying the last part of that sentence without talking about Tri-Man.Easy 5mi recovery yesterday. Felt silky smooth. 9:51/132
Did an 8mi GA run today and didn't feel so good. Just overall sluggish and weak. The sun beat me up, but I was hoping I'd feel a little better than this being 3 days out from the HM. Hopefully its just shaking out the cobwebs. 8:46/157
We're heading out tomorrow for a long weekend with the family for a camping trip and then hitting up the HM on Sunday morning. The race is on the AFB I was stationed at when I was reserve/active. My old unit just so happens to be drilling this weekend, so I'm hoping to catch up with a few of the guys after the race. It's going to be surreal to step foot back on the base after being out for 6 years now. The race is a tiny race (~100 for the HM) and is on what they are touting as the 'fastest HM course in DE'. So it should be interesting.
Ned
Footballguy
You can train by HR and even manage your races (as tri noted earlier) by watching your HR. The main benefit is being able to accurately train in the correct zone. Going by feel could be misleading as there are a lot of factors that play into how you're feeling on a given day.Here's a decent link giving a calc + short summary of each range. 80% or more of your total weekly mileage should be run at the aerobic levels, which is going to be <=77% of your HRR (max HR - resting HR). Assuming you're still learning how to run, I'd suggest doing all of your mileage at this level for a while. Then slowly start mixing in some LT runs. Don't worry about the speed. It'll be there. The key to this game is building a big base of endurance first.
Ned
Footballguy
On days I don't feel like doing anything I just tell myself 'the first step is the hardest'. Sometimes you gotta suck it up and just get out there.
beer 302
Footballguy
Boy you got that right. Had a great run yesterday but today, blah. Looking forward to racking some miles on a new course tomorrow.For anyone interested I just scored a sweet deal on New Balance MR1080's. I run in the old style so since they are discontinuing them I was hoping to grab a pair before they were all gone. http://www.joesnewbalanceoutlet.com/default.htm had them for essentially half price, $84.99. I noticed a few of you run in them from earlier posts
John Bender
Footballguy
Nice soft 3 miles this morning.
Starting to heat up here. Anything over 80 degrees and I'm out so slowly been waking up earlier and earlier each day to get in the run while it's sub 80.
No injury issues so far - just minor soreness here and there.
Forgot to rub vaseline on my feet before running this week though. Ouch
Starting to heat up here. Anything over 80 degrees and I'm out so slowly been waking up earlier and earlier each day to get in the run while it's sub 80.
No injury issues so far - just minor soreness here and there.
Forgot to rub vaseline on my feet before running this week though. Ouch
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
And another reason there needs to be a Mini Me Division in all forms of racing 
Prepping for tomorrow's Run/Kayak Du, I had to add "stool" to my multi-sport checklist to be sure I can reach high enough to lock my kayak on the roof rack (AND I HAVE A TINY CAR). I am sure those in the Clydesdale Division will not have the same issues!!!!
Prepping for tomorrow's Run/Kayak Du, I had to add "stool" to my multi-sport checklist to be sure I can reach high enough to lock my kayak on the roof rack (AND I HAVE A TINY CAR). I am sure those in the Clydesdale Division will not have the same issues!!!!
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Hang in there Sho
I typically post in here and somebody will tell me to HTFU. It usually does the trick. HTFU you lazy goat! Git your ### back at it before you become some flabby wuss-boy.
I've paraphrased for you.
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