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I'm good up (or down) until about the teens, then it depends on the wind. As long as the wind chill is north of zero I'm fine and only get limited by any snow, but between that and 20 everything is covered except for a little socket for my eyes. I actually wait for there to be no sun because I can't wear my sunglasses and have my nose covered, glasses fog up. Key is just to make sure the extremities (head, nose, feet, and hands) are well covered.
I love that y'all are talking about this crap when we're in one of the worst summers on record.
See my last post.
wow, that sucks.For you seasoned guys, I am sure the weather is just one huge demoralizer.Positively EPIC FAIL of a 20-miler for me on Saturday.
Temps 75-80° with the dew point around 70°, so I knew right away that it was gonna be a cooker. Felt horrible pretty much from the beginning (shorts soaked after just 3 miles), but it wasn't until about 9-10 miles into the run that the wheels just totally fell off. I was hot, lightheaded, nauseated, neck and shoulders hurt, etc. Ended up walking the majority of the last 10 miles and stopping for water whenever the opportunity presented itself. Got home and had to lie down for almost an hour before I felt decent again. It might have been worse than Boston.
Fortunately, it has since cooled off a bit, and I got out this morning before work for a decent 10-miler, but I can tell that my body still isn't right. This hotter-than-normal weather has gotten me to the point where running almost isn't fun anymore, and it really bothers me that something I can't control (the weather) can essentially ruin (at least temporarily) something that's so important to me. I'll guess I'll just do what I can until fall. Not much other choice.
Trying to think cool thoughts!
WTFgrue - I feel ya man. I think Sunday was a universally crappy running day for most of the county. It's August. Only another 4 weeks or so of this crap. Then it's time to get siked up for PR season...
I'm with you on this one. I have always been a morning person and like getting these big runs done before most are even thinking about waking up. No better way to start the day, IMO.
Sounds like classic dehydration, right?-----------------------------------------------Positively EPIC FAIL of a 20-miler for me on Saturday.
Temps 75-80° with the dew point around 70°, so I knew right away that it was gonna be a cooker. Felt horrible pretty much from the beginning (shorts soaked after just 3 miles), but it wasn't until about 9-10 miles into the run that the wheels just totally fell off. I was hot, lightheaded, nauseated, neck and shoulders hurt, etc. Ended up walking the majority of the last 10 miles and stopping for water whenever the opportunity presented itself. Got home and had to lie down for almost an hour before I felt decent again. It might have been worse than Boston.
I know you don't wanna hear it, but that is kick ### manGood to read about the weekend successes guys!
Sounds like classic dehydration, right?-----------------------------------------------Positively EPIC FAIL of a 20-miler for me on Saturday.
Temps 75-80° with the dew point around 70°, so I knew right away that it was gonna be a cooker. Felt horrible pretty much from the beginning (shorts soaked after just 3 miles), but it wasn't until about 9-10 miles into the run that the wheels just totally fell off. I was hot, lightheaded, nauseated, neck and shoulders hurt, etc. Ended up walking the majority of the last 10 miles and stopping for water whenever the opportunity presented itself. Got home and had to lie down for almost an hour before I felt decent again. It might have been worse than Boston.
I had a disappointing run yesterday morning. Conditions weren't too bad. I think like 70/70 to start. 16 with 10 at marathon pace. After the first 6 at about 7:45 pace, I picked up the pace and tried to stay under 160 HR. I don't have the data, but I think I ran a 7:15 mile, then a 7:05, then slowed to about 7:30 for the next few miles. I just felt like I didn't have it and was struggling to keep that pace. I wanted to make sure I got the miles in so I dialed back to 8:00 miles to finish the 16.
It's disappointing since I averaged 7:11 for my marathon in June and 6:58 for my half a few weeks ago. I guess I have all sorts of excuses: the sun was bright, I didn't drink and eat right on Saturday, I was probably fatigued by running too far and a bit too fast earlier in the week, etc. Oh well!
Good news is a got an early birthday present last night: a Garmin 910XT! I'm looking forward to testing it out on a recovery run this evening.
In before 2Y2BB starts huming your leg.Good to read about the weekend successes guys!
Sounds like classic dehydration, right?-----------------------------------------------Positively EPIC FAIL of a 20-miler for me on Saturday.
Temps 75-80° with the dew point around 70°, so I knew right away that it was gonna be a cooker. Felt horrible pretty much from the beginning (shorts soaked after just 3 miles), but it wasn't until about 9-10 miles into the run that the wheels just totally fell off. I was hot, lightheaded, nauseated, neck and shoulders hurt, etc. Ended up walking the majority of the last 10 miles and stopping for water whenever the opportunity presented itself. Got home and had to lie down for almost an hour before I felt decent again. It might have been worse than Boston.
I had a disappointing run yesterday morning. Conditions weren't too bad. I think like 70/70 to start. 16 with 10 at marathon pace. After the first 6 at about 7:45 pace, I picked up the pace and tried to stay under 160 HR. I don't have the data, but I think I ran a 7:15 mile, then a 7:05, then slowed to about 7:30 for the next few miles. I just felt like I didn't have it and was struggling to keep that pace. I wanted to make sure I got the miles in so I dialed back to 8:00 miles to finish the 16.
It's disappointing since I averaged 7:11 for my marathon in June and 6:58 for my half a few weeks ago. I guess I have all sorts of excuses: the sun was bright, I didn't drink and eat right on Saturday, I was probably fatigued by running too far and a bit too fast earlier in the week, etc. Oh well!
Good news is a got an early birthday present last night: a Garmin 910XT! I'm looking forward to testing it out on a recovery run this evening.
Wait, are we talking about humming or humping? I'm not sure which would be more disturbing...
and get one water bottle full of water, the other with Whip Cream Vodka and Gatorade
One of my best friends was there Wed-Sat. I may need to join him next year...
I think this pretty much sums it up. I'm jealous!
This is exactly how I've been thinking about it too. So many of long run miles have been logged by starlight that it's actually a little weird imagining what it would be like to run 15 miles in the middle of the day.gruecd -- Sorry about the crappy 20 miler. There's just no good way to do long runs in conditions like that.
Well done...well done
Sounds like a great time dude.Hi All! I haven't had any time to catch up with what's going on in here, but I know I'm proud and inspired by all of you! I've been out for approximately a month.
RAGBRAI was EPIC!! It was literally Mardi Gras on wheels. I'd like to give a complete ride report, but it would make a Poppa post look like a single smiley. In all I completed just over 500 miles over the 7 days. We had back to back days with the temps hitting 108 and 109 degrees. The 109 degree day had 3,600 feet of climbing spread out over 87 miles; with the vast majority into a strong head wind. That day was some actual work (2 of our group had to SAG), the rest of the ride was literally just one HUGE party.
A typical day:
6:00 am = wake up and have a beer
7:00 am; everyone (5 buddies) have our bowels emptied, spandex on, and Butt-Buttr applied = Roll out with hangovers
7:45 am; We've ridden a very slow 10 miles and stop at the first town for a HUGE breakfast (breakfast burrito the size of my daughter's head) and a beer; somebody also needs to drop another deuce so it takes awhile. I notice my Gatorade bottle is empty, but my water bottle hasn't been touched.
8:15 We roll out as a group. First big hill I notice the rest of the group is well-behind. I then race toward the next town/party. Whoops, a farmer has a slip n Slide and a free beer sign in his lawn. I stop; slip n slide, drink a beer, slip n slide again and notice my friends have also stopped. I watch them slip n slide and have another beer waiting for them.
9:30 We roll out as a group. First big hill I lose the group and speed ahead to the next town/party. I find the Beer Garten, find a group of female riders and dance with them and our spandex while having a beer. 15 minutes later, my buddies show up and we eat pork chops on a stick while rejoicing the greatness of meat and sticks.
10:30 We roll out as a group. Having already ridden 10 miles (in only 2.5 hours) we know we are WELL ahead of pace. Another hill = I sprint ahead. Local farm has a sign for 2 eggs on a stick for $1. Cannot pass it up. I pull in, and actually drink some of my water. I get back on my bike and speed ahead to the next town. I pass 6 guys dressed as Elvis; 12 Girls dressed as Bat Girl, 3 old guys dressed as Flamingos with pink Boas, and a dude doing the whole ride on his skateboard.
11:00 I arrive at the daily "Meeting town" (= Only place the drivers/friends are allowed on the course to meet up with a team). I find David (our driver, who is Vodka Dave's son) at our truck pulling our popup camper. We have a beer together, and we walk into town which is an all-out party everywhere you look. A DJ has music blaring, and there are 1,000's of people dancing in the street, wearing spandex-laden costumes. I get David lunch and we have a beer together. The County "Popcorn Queen" and her court are there. David and I get pictures with them. The group catches up with us, and we have more beers and I have a second lunch at one of the 50+ vendors that have set up shop in a town of 700 people. Once their lunch is done, the rest of the group takes off ahead, staying on task. David and I stop to firt with the BatGirls, who share their Boons Farm with us. I then go back to the truck, fill my water bottle and get another Vodka/Gatorade prepared.
12:45 I role out. I'm a bit wobbly, but ok. I find a three person pace line and catch it. We are flying at approx 29-33 MPH. I take one pull, then notice that the Margaritaville Van is parked in a vacant field. I stop and find my group there drinking margarita's. I gladly join them. Team Booty (6 girls who wear thongs over their spandex has a bat, and ask me to do a Louisville Slugger. I gladly do, and hurt my left shoulder a bit as I take a major digger. I don't mind as I now am on the ground with 6 thong'ed girls helping me up.
2:00 We roll out as a group. First hill, I sprint ahead to the next town. I get there and notice the beer garten is a bit quiet. I fill up my water bottle which is now empty, and roll toward the next town.
2:45 I ride next to three gorgeous females all blinged out, with glitter on all exposed skin. I offer them some of my very warm Vodka/Gatorade, and they pass the water bottle around. They tell me that two of them got matching nipple tattoos for the ride. I said awesome, and asked them what they were of. In order for me to be better evaluate precisely what it was, the prettiest of the group gently pulled her pink sports bra down and showed me a gorgeous spider web that has been inked around her erect nipple. I was very impressed. I asked if the other person's was identical, and she said I'd have to take my word for it.
3:30; Me and the girls roll into the next town! This is an unincorporated town, that now looks like a large city block party. Prior to the entrance to the town there is a Zumba class being taught by one hot instructor, with the only 6 women in the town capable of doing zumba. It is not pretty, but certainly worth seeing. Right at the entrance to the town are the local H.S. cheerleaders doing RAGBRAI cheers. They also have all their fire engines out, a DJ blaring, and at least 4,000 people dancing in the streets. I have the girls take a picture of me with the Cheerleaders. We then head to the party. We play a game of flip cup with the Bat girls, and a team of Northwestern University students. I get a text from our group, and they just got into town! I tell them where we are, and they join us for a beer.
5:30 We roll out together as a group. 65 miles done in 10.5 hours = right on schedule! We have just 12 more to go. Four miles in there is another slip n slide. We all slide about 5 times, pet the farmer's pet raccoon, drink a couple beers and roll on.
6:00 We roll out together as a group. 3 more miles in, there is a farmer who with homemade ice cream. We all stop and it is delicious. We call ahead to David to learn that he has set up the camper and gives us directions to it.
6:30 We roll out and complete our last 5 miles and arrive at camp about 7:15. We take public showers at the fairgrounds and head out for a quick dinner. We have two beers at our campsite, prior to turning in for the night at 10:30; to get ready to do it all over again the next day!
Of note:
EVERY town we went to was a great party. It seemed the smaller the town, the bigger the party.
Many of the farms we passed had beers/beverages/pies/cookies etc. for the riders.
We were in the minority by not having costumes.
Iowa is NOT flat.
I did a 7 mile stretch with 2 other riders, doing .5 mile pulls at over 32 MPH (it was freaking awesome).
Dipping the bike into the Mississippi at the end was awesome.
The Counting Crows played for all the riders on Wednesday night.
We will definitely be doing this ride again.
I gained 4 lbs. while riding 500+ miles in 7 days, in that heat.
Actually this wasn't a fail. Time on feet is your first priority. Continuing through the rough spot also is a deposit into the bank that you'll be able to cash out later. Stay positive as you'll crush the 50 miler.Positively EPIC FAIL of a 20-miler for me on Saturday.
Temps 75-80° with the dew point around 70°, so I knew right away that it was gonna be a cooker. Felt horrible pretty much from the beginning (shorts soaked after just 3 miles), but it wasn't until about 9-10 miles into the run that the wheels just totally fell off. I was hot, lightheaded, nauseated, neck and shoulders hurt, etc. Ended up walking the majority of the last 10 miles and stopping for water whenever the opportunity presented itself. Got home and had to lie down for almost an hour before I felt decent again. It might have been worse than Boston.
Fortunately, it has since cooled off a bit, and I got out this morning before work for a decent 10-miler, but I can tell that my body still isn't right. This hotter-than-normal weather has gotten me to the point where running almost isn't fun anymore, and it really bothers me that something I can't control (the weather) can essentially ruin (at least temporarily) something that's so important to me. I'll guess I'll just do what I can until fall. Not much other choice.
Be careful man. A few days off with the heat is better then heat stroke and all its consequences. Is a treadmill an option? Even just for 1-2 days? I hate them but I have been doing most of my running on it during these hot times. We recently went over 50 days with triple digit temps here.Positively EPIC FAIL of a 20-miler for me on Saturday.
Temps 75-80° with the dew point around 70°, so I knew right away that it was gonna be a cooker. Felt horrible pretty much from the beginning (shorts soaked after just 3 miles), but it wasn't until about 9-10 miles into the run that the wheels just totally fell off. I was hot, lightheaded, nauseated, neck and shoulders hurt, etc. Ended up walking the majority of the last 10 miles and stopping for water whenever the opportunity presented itself. Got home and had to lie down for almost an hour before I felt decent again. It might have been worse than Boston.
Fortunately, it has since cooled off a bit, and I got out this morning before work for a decent 10-miler, but I can tell that my body still isn't right. This hotter-than-normal weather has gotten me to the point where running almost isn't fun anymore, and it really bothers me that something I can't control (the weather) can essentially ruin (at least temporarily) something that's so important to me. I'll guess I'll just do what I can until fall. Not much other choice.
They are clipped in. They can come out (clip out), but having them clipped in already makes for a faster transition. Unlike normal bike shoes, tri shoes strap away from the bike to allow the rider to to undo the strap away from the bike so they don't catch a wheel when coming in to transition number 2. If you are still watching, you saw that they ride on the tops of the shoes right before transition and run to their stand.
Nice job Ned, nothing like hitting a good run to get the day going!Anybody have any experience with Under Armor coldgear? I've been trying to prep for the upcoming winter with these sales, all this stuff the same? One brand better than another?
What you're describing (heel pain that goes away or subsides a little while running but comes back afterwards) sounds exactly like achilles tendonitis. This is a pretty common overuse injury that tends to occur when a person is building up mileage and intesity too quickly. Definitely ice it down for 15-20 minutes several times a day. This is standard treatment for pretty much every running injury. Taking a few days off would be a good idea, but if you can't (it sounds like you're training for something) at least make sure your miles are easy and low-intensity. No hard runs or speedwork. If this literally just started in the past few days, it may resolve on its own with just ice and relative rest.
I've had self-diagnosed achilles tendonitis for over two years now. It comes and goes but, at this point, I don't worry about it too much. When running, I normally only feel pain during the warm-up.
"6.2 is a 10k GB" 
<_< 
Prolly gonna be a while before I don't hear about that anymore.
My standard answer for all things pain...Leg extensions (one legged)
On the other hand...1 - 9:16, 1352 - 9:50, 1343 - 10:27, 1364 - 10:45, 1345 - 10:45, 1366 - 9:36, 133Temps started off in the upper 80's with a dew pt around 70. Rain (actually a gully washer) came in during mile 5 and the temp dropped 15 degreess.
Was scrolling and missed the rain and cooling part for a second and was
at dropping to 9:36 and the HR dropping like that.Nice run.Oh, and Ned's conditions can bite me please.
Coldues and pigskin have both done this ride multiple times. Hopefully pigskin dips his foot into the cat 5 race this year.
We say it so much, but it's incredible how much the heat and humidity control us. You're still a master at controlling your HR. Keeping a linear HR in 150+ suck index ain't easy.
Seems easy enough to me...I just waddle a little slower.
I use it pretty much exclusively during the winter. Sure, you can spend less for knockoffs, but the UA stuff works great, and if you take care of it, it lasts forever.
My wife has some UA cold weather gear and loves it. I tend to go for layers of cheap stuff (e.g. compression shirt, long sleeve shirt, short sleeve shirt, fleece) and that works fine too, but I've never heard anybody say that they didn't think they got their money's worth out of their UA.
Personally, I love running at night after the sun has gone down.Went out tonight at 7:30 pm for 12 miles. Felt super easy running the first 6 miles in 48:52 (8:09/mile) and then picked it up a bit and ran the last 6 miles in 45:39 (7:37). Overall average was 7:53/mile. Felt strong the whole way and only needed 20 ounces of Gatorade despite temps in the 70s.
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