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Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)

'2Young2BBald said:
Leg 10 - 1.4 mile trail run (repeat of leg 1). About a half mile in, I saw and passed guy taking a leak and teased him questioning if he couldn't wait 10 more minutes. He passed me with about 3/4s of a mile to go
You are such a bad-###! Other than the above bad-karma moment, this is totally crazy/insane stuff. Even BnB has to be impressed. I can't wait to join you and the boys in a month for some slightly-crazy trail running!
 
Ned - I was looking at your 5K and HM times. Your 5K time is crazy fast compared to your HM time. Are you doing enough endurance training? You've got the speed to go lower in the HM. If I were you I'd go for maximum weekly miles (45+) with just 1 tempo run a week. That should really help you in your next HM.
My roots have always been towards the shorter distances. My endurance sucks, but that's changing slowly. My HM PR is very soft thanks to running into crummy weather the last 2 times I ran. My MP run yesterday was 8:13. I could've kept going and beat my HM PR yesterday if I wanted to. Freaky. I'm confident I have a <1:42 in me right now. I just need to get that skank mother nature to cooperate with me.I'm on week 6 of Pfitz 18/70 now and I feel like a completely different runner... again (I felt this way after doing 18/55 last year). It seems like the more mileage I pile on, the better my body has responded.
 
'2Young2BBald said:
Leg 10 - 1.4 mile trail run (repeat of leg 1). About a half mile in, I saw and passed guy taking a leak and teased him questioning if he couldn't wait 10 more minutes. He passed me with about 3/4s of a mile to go
You are such a bad-###! Other than the above bad-karma moment, this is totally crazy/insane stuff. Even BnB has to be impressed. I can't wait to join you and the boys in a month for some slightly-crazy trail running!
I'm not even sure how to process that RR. There sure are some straight up studs in this crew here.
 
Horses Mouth - jumping right into a Half-IM, eh? Brave soul. Be ready for the swim. Coming out of that in a weakened state makes the next 4 hours really tough! The run becomes a slow grind, but if you plan a run/walk strategy, you can hopefully get through it. If you haven't yet, practice some bricks - bike/run combinations.
This is outstanding advice. For my HIM next month, I am going in with three plans for the run, based on how I am feeling coming off the bike. Best case scenario, run the entire half marathon. Most likely scenario, take a minute walk at each mile marker, taking inventory again with a 5K to go and running in from there if all feels right (if off, continue the walk at every mile). Worse case scenario if I feel like ### coming off the bike, do 7/3s (run 7, walk 3 repeat). I can also mix and match as I go be feel. Having blown up at mile 4 of a HIM run in 2010 (more due to injury than fatigue), I thank a more cautious approach to the first half of the run will help.
 
Day 1, Week 5 Pfitz 18/55

9 mile GA with 5 LT (15k-HM pace)

61/50something this morning...man it felt good as the sun rose.

First 3 GA miles were just easy...10:25-139, 10:10-144 (nice uphill to start it but some downhill really making this an easy mile), 10:20-147

5 LT miles cruised by pretty simply too...

8:45-158

8:38-160

8:20-159

8:30-159

8:26-162

Finished with the uphill back to the house in 10:15-149.

Loving these temps.

 
'2Young2BBald said:
Leg 10 - 1.4 mile trail run (repeat of leg 1). About a half mile in, I saw and passed guy taking a leak and teased him questioning if he couldn't wait 10 more minutes. He passed me with about 3/4s of a mile to go
You are such a bad-###! Other than the above bad-karma moment, this is totally crazy/insane stuff. Even BnB has to be impressed. I can't wait to join you and the boys in a month for some slightly-crazy trail running!
I'm not even sure how to process that RR. There sure are some straight up studs in this crew here.
:goodposting: No doubt...so much more than I can think of doing on trails and bikes and in the water.

I will stick to my pace on the roads :)

 
This morning's Ivyland (PA) 5k - about 72 and low humidity, couldn't ask for much more in August

I finished in 17:32. 8th overall and 1st in my age group (35-39). I won a peach pie :excited:

So not a "new" PB but only 10 seconds off and it's my second best 5k since my comeback. My splits were fairly even: First mile 5:38, second mile 5:48 (11:26) and finished the last 1.1 in 6:06 (about 5:33 pace). The first mile kinda scared me because 5:38 felt more like 5:25 or so to me and the calf wasn't completely loose. So I think mile 2 was a mental slow down more than anything and I finished well. All tolled I am happy with this race because my legs have felt tired and the speedwork has been less than stellar. I actually felt like I ran this race more on strength and endurance. This spring/early summer I felt like my speed was getting me through races and making up for my lack of base. Which tells me that although my legs feel tired, the increase in mileage is helping in the long run.
Still catching up from the weekend and, DAMN, this is impressive.
 
Ned - I was looking at your 5K and HM times. Your 5K time is crazy fast compared to your HM time. Are you doing enough endurance training? You've got the speed to go lower in the HM. If I were you I'd go for maximum weekly miles (45+) with just 1 tempo run a week. That should really help you in your next HM.
My roots have always been towards the shorter distances. My endurance sucks, but that's changing slowly. My HM PR is very soft thanks to running into crummy weather the last 2 times I ran. My MP run yesterday was 8:13. I could've kept going and beat my HM PR yesterday if I wanted to. Freaky. I'm confident I have a <1:42 in me right now. I just need to get that skank mother nature to cooperate with me.I'm on week 6 of Pfitz 18/70 now and I feel like a completely different runner... again (I felt this way after doing 18/55 last year). It seems like the more mileage I pile on, the better my body has responded.
18/70, wow! You'll get there for sure.
 
'2Young2BBald said:
Leg 10 - 1.4 mile trail run (repeat of leg 1). About a half mile in, I saw and passed guy taking a leak and teased him questioning if he couldn't wait 10 more minutes. He passed me with about 3/4s of a mile to go
You are such a bad-###! Other than the above bad-karma moment, this is totally crazy/insane stuff. Even BnB has to be impressed. I can't wait to join you and the boys in a month for some slightly-crazy trail running!
Rule number one, don't piss off the competition.Rule number two, if the words "ten leg" or "survival" are in the event title, don't sign up.Rule number three, swimming sucks, drowning sucks more, muck sucks the most.
 
One more thing about this hot HM race. It was 54% women. The butt huggers were out in full force and also saw a lot of shirts coming off, sports bra only.

If there was ever a time to perv event photos, this would be it.

 
Prince Myshkin - if you're thinking about a 5K, maybe think about adding relay element. That's a way for kids to start without the full 5K commitment. It gets some team building and team competition going as well. (My triathlon start was with a relay.) It's fun to see the exchange points at races ...lots of energy in the middle of the race.
that's a great idea. this is all purely in the brainstorming phase, but i was thinking of having a mile run for younger kids. a relay might be even better!
 
Hey guys, I'll catch up a bit later, but wanted to check and let you all know I did survive my 10 leg survival tri today. I shaved 17 minutes off of last years time and they had to lengthen a few of the legs due to some issues with 2 of the lakes. They added .7 miles to one of the run legs taking the total miles run to about 14.25 and added .3 to one of the swims (the last one). Garmin had me at almost a 1/2 iron swim distance (1.2 miles) for the 3rd swim, 3.5 hours in to the event. I am going to pull the Garmin data soon. I think I may have swam around 2.1 miles total today. Best of all, I finished 2nd in my AG after finishing dead last, last year.
Wait. So they added 0.7 miles to run. 0.3 miles of swim AND you still shaved off 17 minutes from last year? Damn. Nice work.
:goodposting: Awesome work 2Y2BB
 
'gruecd said:
Leg #1 (1-2): Friday, 3:00 pm. Total 13.7 miles in 1:39:11 (7:15/mile). Felt pretty easy.Leg #2 (13-14): Saturday, 12:28 am. Total 11.5 miles in 1:24:18 (7:21). 9-minute mile up the aforementioned hill. :rant: Leg #3 (25-26): Saturday, 8:52 am. Total 8.9 miles in 1:06:59 (7:32). First three miles downhill at sub-7 pace, then legs died. Realllllly wanted to walk, but gutted it out. Took a Gu about halfway through, really helped.Overall, total of 34.1 miles in 4:10:28 (7:21/mile). Not bad. :)
:tebow: You are a super hero.
 
Well the HM didn't go so well. The weather was a killer. Mid-70s the entire race, humid, absolutely no breeze, and no shade the entire course except for a half mile in mile 11. It might not sound like much temp-wise but everyone I knew ran at least 1min pace slower. So much for the PR, I guess I need to enter the Carlsbad HM in Jan to go for that.Ran the first 10K at a 7:40 pace but the heat made me slow to 8min/mile, then to 8:30min/mile and when I realized no PR was possible I shut it down at mile 9. I cramped up big time too, even with 15 salt tablets. I think I ran 12min miles the last couple.1:54:17. PW! :)
Nice job battling through and I know it is all relative but I am going to say it anyway. I dream of finishing sub 2:00:00. That 1:54:17 looks great!!!!!!
 
'2Young2BBald said:
Leg 10 - 1.4 mile trail run (repeat of leg 1). About a half mile in, I saw and passed guy taking a leak and teased him questioning if he couldn't wait 10 more minutes. He passed me with about 3/4s of a mile to go
You are such a bad-###! Other than the above bad-karma moment, this is totally crazy/insane stuff. Even BnB has to be impressed. I can't wait to join you and the boys in a month for some slightly-crazy trail running!
Rule number one, don't piss off on the competition.Rule number two, if the words "ten leg" or "survival" are in the event title, don't sign up.

Rule number three, swimming sucks, drowning sucks more, muck sucks the most.
Fixed.Though I have to say that 2Y's RR of event has made me more jealous than anything else I have read about in here. So sad that it is dying.

 
Just got home today from an 11 day RV road trip up through Oregon and Northern California. Swimming (3 lakes and a pool), beach time (some serious dune climbing), camping (4 different campgrounds) and lots of much needed relaxation (as much as you can relax with an 8 year old and a 14 year old around!).

I only got in 2 runs during the trip, with one in Bend, OR, at 4000+ feet in 95 degree weather being the hardest 4 mile run I've had in a long time. I planned my last race to be the weekend before this trip so it would coincide with what have been a down week anyway, and I'll get back at it this week with a trail marathon looming in 8 weeks. Need to squeeze in a 20 miler or two over the next 5 weeks, at least I'm entering this training phase on fresh legs.

But I really popped in here tonight looking for some good thoughts and mojo. My buddy Jim, who I paced at Western States this summer, had his knee surgery a couple of weeks ago. Everything seemed to go well, and while I was up in Bend I went with him while he got his stitches taken out. Later that day, he started to feel pain in the knee, and by afternoon it was swelling. We left the following morning and he went in to Urgent Care where they told him it was probably an infection, even though he didn't have any other symptoms. Well by that evening he had a 103 fever, uncontrollable shakes, and they took him to the ER where he was rushed into surgery (which took 2 hours). Turned out to be a severe staph infection deep in the knee joint, and it was pretty sketchy for the next 24 hours. He's now stabilized and home after 4 days in the hospital, but in a lot of pain, and with the plan of 4-6 weeks of IV antibiotics to try and deal with the infection. But his health is still at risk, and there is still the possibility that they'll have to do a complete joint replacement if the infection doesn't get better pretty quickly. So hoping the FFA running crew can send out some good, positive thoughts Jimmy's way.

 
'SFBayDuck said:
Just got home today from an 11 day RV road trip up through Oregon and Northern California. Swimming (3 lakes and a pool), beach time (some serious dune climbing), camping (4 different campgrounds) and lots of much needed relaxation (as much as you can relax with an 8 year old and a 14 year old around!).

I only got in 2 runs during the trip, with one in Bend, OR, at 4000+ feet in 95 degree weather being the hardest 4 mile run I've had in a long time. I planned my last race to be the weekend before this trip so it would coincide with what have been a down week anyway, and I'll get back at it this week with a trail marathon looming in 8 weeks. Need to squeeze in a 20 miler or two over the next 5 weeks, at least I'm entering this training phase on fresh legs.

But I really popped in here tonight looking for some good thoughts and mojo. My buddy Jim, who I paced at Western States this summer, had his knee surgery a couple of weeks ago. Everything seemed to go well, and while I was up in Bend I went with him while he got his stitches taken out. Later that day, he started to feel pain in the knee, and by afternoon it was swelling. We left the following morning and he went in to Urgent Care where they told him it was probably an infection, even though he didn't have any other symptoms. Well by that evening he had a 103 fever, uncontrollable shakes, and they took him to the ER where he was rushed into surgery (which took 2 hours). Turned out to be a severe staph infection deep in the knee joint, and it was pretty sketchy for the next 24 hours. He's now stabilized and home after 4 days in the hospital, but in a lot of pain, and with the plan of 4-6 weeks of IV antibiotics to try and deal with the infection. But his health is still at risk, and there is still the possibility that they'll have to do a complete joint replacement if the infection doesn't get better pretty quickly. So hoping the FFA running crew can send out some good, positive thoughts Jimmy's way.
Jimmy showed what a fighter he is at WS. Sending out the good vibes - he'll beat this thing.
 
SF - good thoughts coming Jim's way.

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MY UPDATE --

Yesterday -- Hard hill workout. Its about an 1/8 of a mile. I make it up a steep hill in about 1:05-1:15 and I start a new hill every three minutes so I generally jog back down the hill and start up again shortly.

Did 8 of them. Saw my HR start at around 130-135 at bottom and go up to low to mid 170's at top.

Did eight of them. It was hard.

This morning -- Easy 5.27 mile recovery run - 9:23 pace/128 HR

 
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SF - good thoughts coming Jim's way.

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MY UPDATE --

Yesterday -- Hard hill workout. Its about an 1/8 of a mile. I make it up a steep hill in about 1:05-1:15 and I start a new hill every three minutes so I generally jog back down the hill and start up again shortly.

Did 8 of them. Saw my HR start at around 130-135 at bottom and go up to low to mid 170's at top.

Did eight of them. It was hard.

Easy 5.27 mile recovery run - 9:23 pace/128 HR
Dang homey.
 
No doubt on that recovery.

had my 5 mile recovery today...10:35/136

The amazing thing is I was struggling to hold a 150 or so HR at that pace just a few weeks ago as a GA run in those temps.

Today was 58* and felt so darn good.

 
Had to delete my RR and repost due to formatting issues. I could not figure out how to eliminate all that code.



Battle of Waterloo 10-LegSurvival Triathlon Race Report (long and I pre apologize for my typos)

Having a severe racing OCD,it did little to comfort me getting an email the day before the race statingthat part of one lake was "unswimable" and that they had to reroute acouple of legs adding run and swim distance to the total So, I of course closely reviewed the changesby Google Maps. Because the race wasabout an hour and a half away and with a 7:30am start, a buddy of mine and Idecided to camp at the part the event was being held as all hotels were fulldue to a nearby NASCAR race yesterday. Asif the change is course wasn't enough to mess with my head, I realized rightbefore going to bed the night before the race that I had left the bagel Iplanned for race morning sitting on the kitchen counter. Strangely, this would have kept me up allnight worrying. Instead, I have a smallbag of goldfish and figured this would be enough. Sleep was a bit difficult as about 1/2 thecampground was filled will drunk NASCAR-Fan.

While the night's sleepwasn't the best, it was nice to wake up at 6am and take my time before headingdown to the start around 7am. I wentover (and over) that I had everything straight. Unlike normal tris, we left the first park to head to another forfurther legs, so I had to have my swim gear in my tri top and have my runningshoes in a in one of those canvass drawstring back pack for the ride over tothe other park (with my shoes sealed in a zip lock).

It makes no sense to me withsuch a great event, but there were only 52 people signed up and only 48 showedup (7 total in my AG, which I noted at check in). Beautiful, but actually chilly morning, around56 at the start. Glad I checked theweather, as I packed arm warmers to wear for the first 2 legs. Ate my goldfish crackers and took a gelaround 15-minutes before the gun.

Leg 1 - 1.4 mile trailrun. I felt great coming out. Unfortunately, I botched the start of therace in Garmin Multi-Sport mode, so I captured the entire race as one big 41.96mile run. The run itself went just fine. Saw a guy grub hard and found out he DNF'dbecause of it. Total bummer to be out 8minutes in to a 5 hour race

T1 - Learning from lastyear, I ran the leg in different shoes that I'd use out at the other park. I had my other shoes in the back pack, readyto go

Leg 2 - 20.5 mile ride. After getting out of the park, I clicked offmiles 2 and 3 at almost 22 MPH (luckily, I had my old Garmin on the bike tocapture the bike legs). I actually had totell myself to back myself down. Mostlyan uneventful ride, except when a dog charged three of us riding closetogether. Checking the Garmin, it washere that my HR reached its highest point of the entire event at 189. My buddy, who is a far superior swimmer andon the bike, caught me at around mile 8. I chased him for the rest of the ride and entered T2 right after him. I took a gel (#2) and two Endurolytes rightbefore transition as I cramped bad after this swim last year.

T2 - Last year I was realtimid on transitions before the swims I decided to push it a bit more. I ditched my bike gear and the backpack andheaded down to the water with my shoes, in the zip lock, tucked in the back ofmy tri top By the time I walked to thewater I had my cap and goggle on and ear plugs in.

Leg 3 - .5 mile swim (acrossthe lake My buddy and I went into thewater together I tried to draft him, buthe swam away within the first 50 yards or so The swim was right into the sun making siting very difficult. Like last year, my legs were starting tocramp I used zero kick for much of theswim to rest the legs and this is the likely cause I hit the lap button on the Garmin to capturethe swim and it appears the total was .68 miles (including some of the walkfrom transition

T-3 - Once at the dock, Icould barely climb on due to cramping in my calves and thighs. Once up on the dock, I tucked my swim gear inmy tri suit and took my shoes out of the zip lock and put them on to run 30-yards from the dock was an Aid Stationwhere I grabbed some Heed and two more Endurolytes (4 total) and another gel(#3

Leg 4 - 4 mile trail run I ran my cramps away at about a mile and ahalf and actually picked up the pace Myplan was to try and keep my HR for all runs before the last swim around 160 tosave a bit for that swim It was easy tokeep it in this range and although I was still uncomfortable due to lingeringcramps, breathing was easy Other thanalmost grubbing right before the end and getting a cramp in my rib cage due tosaving myself, it was a decent run and much better than last year

T-4 This occurred at the base of the lake thatwas "partially" unswimable. Peoplewere coming out struggling to get through the muck and weeds, knee deep anddeeper. One woman was dry heaving on theshore due to the nastiness. They stated this swim was approximately 300 meters,but had not been measured. I went inquick after the run due to the short distance

Leg 5 - .25 mile swim Getting stuck in the muck and pulling my legsout was bringing back the cramping big time I decided to try a skim the top of the muck until I could swim While this helped my legs, I scraped the hellout of my chest on logs, etc in the water This was an out and back swim with only one buoy and no guidance onwhich side of it to swim on I chose theright and swam off course a bit in to a bed of lily pads This was a brutal struggle for e few seconds Turning the buoy, I caught that swimmers werecoming at me on all side, so I had to site more to be sure I didn't take anyonehead on Back at the muck, I skimmed thetop again, standing when I could not swim anymore Pulling my legs though the muck hurt bad andthe cramping was awful I did the Garminsplits here too and it had me at .53 miles (way farther than what they hadguessed).

T-5 Shoes back on, I took a gel (#4) and 2 moreEndurolytes (now at 6).

Leg 6 - Was supposed to be a3.4 mile run trail run, but they had to add what they thought was an additional.7 miles due to the lake issues. I ranaway the cramps faster than the last leg and actually was able to move throughthe middle miles pretty quick. I caughtand passed my buddy right at the end of this run

T-6 - Last year I sat on theshore freaked out about this swim Myfriend jumped in the water quick, so I follow suit to try and keep up (shoesback in the bag and tucked in the tri suit).

Leg - 7. It was supposed to be a .7 mile swim, butthey let us know when going in the water that the boat launch they wanted touse for us to come out of the water was blocked and we'd have to swim about amile Like the first swim, I tried tokeep up with my buddy, but that was fruitless I just tried to stay afloat and stay on course, which was growingdifficult My Garmin vibrated signaling amile for that leg at the turn buoy near the end Using the splits, it looks like the distance (for me) was 1.16 miles,almost the ½ ironman swim distance around 3.5 hours into the event.

T-7 - Learning from theother swims, I tried standing up in deeper water. No muck here made it easier. This allowed me to stand up with very littleweight on my legs. No real crampinghere, just woozie from such a long swim. Grabbed water, another gel (#5) and two more Endurolytes (8 total here).

Leg 8 - 3.3 Mile trail run. This started with a straight climb up fromthe lake for over a mile, from what I recall from last year. It went from a gravel road to trail andlifting my feet was a pain until my legs came back of bit. I was giving it all I had to try and run downmy buddy, knowing he likely distanced himself a bunch on the swim before. Of course, like clockwork, this leg had theonly real sunlight and it was zapping energy.

T-8 I spotted my friendmounting his bike and heading out, so I quickly stuffed my shoes in my bag andgot my bike shoes on.

Leg 9 - 5.8 mile ride. I was hammering it trying to catch buddy andit hurt, bad. I just kept telling myselfit was almost over. Plus, while my mathskills were compromised due to race insanity, I knew I was crushing lat yearstime and wanted to keep crushing it Ialmost caught my friend by the dismount line.

T-9 Mebeing me, I planned out the transition Ihad left my shoes worn on the first leg, so all I would have to do is toss thebackpack, helmet and glasses and put the other shoes on and go.

Leg 10 - 1.4 mile trail run(repeat of leg 1). I beat my buddy outof transition and was running with all I had left. He and I have gone head up probably 2 dozen timesand I had beaten him 3 other time and each, he either had gear issues or, theone was a kayak tri. He has been doingtriathlons for years. About a half milein, I saw and passed guy taking a leak and teased him questioning if he couldn'twait 10 more minutes. He passed me withabout 3/4s of a mile to go and I took note of the 42 on the back of his leg (hewas in my AG). I tried to keep up, buthad nothing left and did not want to fall or lock up and have my buddy pass me.

I finished in 4:51:23,17-minutes faster than last year and on a longer and in my opinion much toughercourse and good enough for AG 2nd. Smallfield, but still way better than I would have expected. For those thinking "whats up with thecourse changes, how could they do that, how could they be so ambiguous", Ithought it added to the mystique of such an insane event. I cannot believe I put all that get andEndurolytes in my system, but it sure seemed to work and I think I may havelearned a few things for my HIM in a few weeks.

Breaking down camp was achore after the race. I am by far moresore than after any event I've ever done. But, it's all muscle soreness and no jointpain, so I think I accomplished a sub goal of staying healthy. Best ever finisher medal too. It doubles as a bottle opener with the racelogo!

Hey Gru, way to kick ###this weekend. Although, it made me thinkabout the ironman tri shirts poking fun at marathoners. Aw, you went for a run, how cute ;)

 
'Sand said:
Fixed.Though I have to say that 2Y's RR of event has made me more jealous than anything else I have read about in here. So sad that it is dying.
You may still get a chance at this thing. The RD is really an amazing person and was pretty emotional when wrapping up the event. Lots of racers (including me) were begging her to reconsider doing away with this event. She ended with a promise that they would take a year hiatus and then address another run at the event with a different weekend. They want to do some surveys, etc to see if its possible to get this over 100 racers (and hopefully close to the field max of 250) so they don't end up losing money and gathering volunteers for so few people to race. They are hosting a woman's only HIM and Oly this coming weekend. I shot them a note to volunteer to work swim course support in the kayak. I let her know how much I appreciated them carrying on with The Battle, so its the least I can do (plus, its a woman's only event).
 
Some serious grindin' going on in here these days. Wish I could say the same, but at least I'm finally back in a routine!

My runs are a little sloppy. I'm a little slower than I was before my first marathon and my HR has been consistently higher, but I feel good running. I'm not the HR expert, but I chalk it up to higher temps and pushing a double stroller on most of my runs.

I'll be ready for Memphis :boxing:

 
On a lighter note, we can't let this pass without a highlight:

VERY easy in/out; big platform, and reduced hot spots.
:lmao: :lmao:
'17seconds said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
'17seconds said:
If there was ever a time to perv event photos, this would be it.
I assume links to race photos will be coming in the next couple of days, right?
Anything I find I will share
That's the spirit. This thread's strength lies on efforts like this. Good luck soldier.
'SFBayDuck said:
So hoping the FFA running crew can send out some good, positive thoughts Jimmy's way.
T&P's toward Jimmy.
Breaking down camp was achore after the race. I am by far moresore than after any event I've ever done. But, it's all muscle soreness and no jointpain, so I think I accomplished a sub goal of staying healthy. Best ever finisher medal too. It doubles as a bottle opener with the racelogo!
:jealous: AWESOME race and report 2Y! Too cool, muck and all. I never got a sense from your report that you had any great struggles, which is freaking amazing for that type of effort. Goldfish and endurolytes might be the answer...along with some great training. Enjoy your medal as you've certainly earned it :clap: :pickle: :headbang:
 
Hey Gru, way to kick ###this weekend. Although, it made me thinkabout the ironman tri shirts poking fun at marathoners. Aw, you went for a run, how cute ;)
OMG, that's hilarious!! :rolleyes: Oh, and really?????

T-7 - Learning from theother swims, I tried standing up in deeper water.
:P ETA: In all seriousness, congrats on your event. That's pretty badass.

 
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:jealous: AWESOME race and report 2Y! Too cool, muck and all. I never got a sense from your report that you had any great struggles, which is freaking amazing for that type of effort. Goldfish and endurolytes might be the answer...along with some great training. Enjoy your medal as you've certainly earned it :clap: :pickle: :headbang:
Honestly, everything after the first bike was a struggle in one way or the other, but one that I was prepared for. I am trying to be done with the up all night, feeling like I am going to puke before the gun racing. Its still there, but I am really trying to go at things from of mantra that if its not fun its not worth doing. Several times during the race Sunday I was talking to myself (and mostly to my legs) saying c'mon Enduolytes, work these camps out, just keep running and they'll go away. Each time they would. I never walked on any of the runs. I also checked in with myself quite a bit with the whole I can't believe I am doing this thoughts. More and more, I a digging the mental/attitude side of the endurance game.
 
'SFBayDuck said:
But I really popped in here tonight looking for some good thoughts and mojo. My buddy Jim, who I paced at Western States this summer, had his knee surgery a couple of weeks ago. Everything seemed to go well, and while I was up in Bend I went with him while he got his stitches taken out. Later that day, he started to feel pain in the knee, and by afternoon it was swelling. We left the following morning and he went in to Urgent Care where they told him it was probably an infection, even though he didn't have any other symptoms. Well by that evening he had a 103 fever, uncontrollable shakes, and they took him to the ER where he was rushed into surgery (which took 2 hours). Turned out to be a severe staph infection deep in the knee joint, and it was pretty sketchy for the next 24 hours. He's now stabilized and home after 4 days in the hospital, but in a lot of pain, and with the plan of 4-6 weeks of IV antibiotics to try and deal with the infection. But his health is still at risk, and there is still the possibility that they'll have to do a complete joint replacement if the infection doesn't get better pretty quickly. So hoping the FFA running crew can send out some good, positive thoughts Jimmy's way.
Damn, that's terrible.
 
I was feeling pretty fresh yesterday, so I decided to rearrange my schedule a little bit by doing my long run for the week today. It was only 17, but it ended up being a lot harder than I expected. Friday's 22-miler and Sunday's interval session still have me a little drained I guess. The first 10 miles were easy, but then I tired pretty quickly and had to slog out the last 4-5 miles. No problems maintaining LR pace, but I was beat at the end.

Tomorrow is a much-desired SDO, and then I have to see if I can make it through an LT session on Thursday.

 
:jealous: AWESOME race and report 2Y! Too cool, muck and all. I never got a sense from your report that you had any great struggles, which is freaking amazing for that type of effort. Goldfish and endurolytes might be the answer...along with some great training. Enjoy your medal as you've certainly earned it :clap: :pickle: :headbang:
Honestly, everything after the first bike was a struggle in one way or the other, but one that I was prepared for. I am trying to be done with the up all night, feeling like I am going to puke before the gun racing. Its still there, but I am really trying to go at things from of mantra that if its not fun its not worth doing. Several times during the race Sunday I was talking to myself (and mostly to my legs) saying c'mon Enduolytes, work these camps out, just keep running and they'll go away. Each time they would. I never walked on any of the runs. I also checked in with myself quite a bit with the whole I can't believe I am doing this thoughts. More and more, I a digging the mental/attitude side of the endurance game.
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:jealous: AWESOME race and report 2Y! Too cool, muck and all. I never got a sense from your report that you had any great struggles, which is freaking amazing for that type of effort. Goldfish and endurolytes might be the answer...along with some great training. Enjoy your medal as you've certainly earned it :clap: :pickle: :headbang:
Honestly, everything after the first bike was a struggle in one way or the other, but one that I was prepared for. I am trying to be done with the up all night, feeling like I am going to puke before the gun racing. Its still there, but I am really trying to go at things from of mantra that if its not fun its not worth doing. Several times during the race Sunday I was talking to myself (and mostly to my legs) saying c'mon Enduolytes, work these camps out, just keep running and they'll go away. Each time they would. I never walked on any of the runs. I also checked in with myself quite a bit with the whole I can't believe I am doing this thoughts. More and more, I a digging the mental/attitude side of the endurance game.
I miss the mental stuff as much as the physical. Way to work through what most people look at and call insane. In this thread, it's just another thing to start discussion, and to inspire future goals. :thumbup:
 
Training for JFK is gonna start getting real here very soon. Weekly mileage already in the upper 60s, hoping to reach the upper 70s by mid-September. Talked to a couple of ultramarathoner friends of mine, and they said that I need to do at least one or two 50-mile weekends between the two days. So after I pace my friend to her 3:30 marathon on Labor Day weekend, I'm gonna go out the next day and try to run an easy 12-14 miles. And that will only be a 40-mile weekend. Ugh....

Remind me again why I'm doing this.... :confused:

 
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SF - good thoughts coming Jim's way.

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MY UPDATE --

Yesterday -- Hard hill workout. Its about an 1/8 of a mile. I make it up a steep hill in about 1:05-1:15 and I start a new hill every three minutes so I generally jog back down the hill and start up again shortly.

Did 8 of them. Saw my HR start at around 130-135 at bottom and go up to low to mid 170's at top.

Did eight of them. It was hard.

Easy 5.27 mile recovery run - 9:23 pace/128 HR
Dang homey.
Oops. The recovery run was this morning....not the hill workout.Regardless, it was a chilly 58 degrees so it was glorious morning to be out for a recovery run. I tried to keep my HR under 130 and generally did except on a few little rollers.

 
No doubt on that recovery.had my 5 mile recovery today...10:35/136The amazing thing is I was struggling to hold a 150 or so HR at that pace just a few weeks ago as a GA run in those temps.Today was 58* and felt so darn good.
This was my run this morning except my pace was 10:50 something
Remind me again why I'm doing this.... :confused:
Um, well because you're not of this Earth and just trying to show us humanoids what could be if we were all robots like you?Serious note about the staph thing. I had that when I played football in HS, still not entirely sure how I ever contracted it but my forearm swelled up to the size of my calf. Was in the hospital for a week on IV's trying to get it out of my system which thankfully it did. It was fun & games for me until I was leaving and the doc said you really don't appreciate how close you were to losing your arm :unsure: I'll put Jim on the list SFDuck, thanks for letting us know.
 
No doubt on that recovery.had my 5 mile recovery today...10:35/136The amazing thing is I was struggling to hold a 150 or so HR at that pace just a few weeks ago as a GA run in those temps.Today was 58* and felt so darn good.
This was my run this morning except my pace was 10:50 something
Remind me again why I'm doing this.... :confused:
Um, well because you're not of this Earth and just trying to show us humanoids what could be if we were all robots like you?Serious note about the staph thing. I had that when I played football in HS, still not entirely sure how I ever contracted it but my forearm swelled up to the size of my calf. Was in the hospital for a week on IV's trying to get it out of my system which thankfully it did. It was fun & games for me until I was leaving and the doc said you really don't appreciate how close you were to losing your arm :unsure: I'll put Jim on the list SFDuck, thanks for letting us know.
I had staph in my elbow. Same story as above. I had no clue how close I had come to losing my arm beneath my elbow. Scary stuff.
 
Just a reminder (particularly for the new guys) that we have a Facebook group set up for the guys in the thread, too. Easier to access from your mobile devices, easier to post pictures, etc. If you're on Facebook and you want to be part of the group, just "friend" me (link in my sig), and include a note with your FBG alias so I know who you are!

 
Thanks all, as a couple of you have pointed out staph is no joke. That first 12 hours of waiting for news was just brutal, and even now the risk of losing his knee (or worse) is still very real.

It was good to get out for a run on my home turf again this morning, felt a little peace for the first time in a few days. Knocked out my normal 6 miles in pretty close to my normal pace, although breathing/HR were a little higher than normal after 2 weeks of minimal running. But good to see I hadn't lost too much.

Now, back to working my way through 11 days of built up work emails.....

 
'SFBayDuck said:
Just got home today from an 11 day RV road trip up through Oregon and Northern California. Swimming (3 lakes and a pool), beach time (some serious dune climbing), camping (4 different campgrounds) and lots of much needed relaxation (as much as you can relax with an 8 year old and a 14 year old around!).

I only got in 2 runs during the trip, with one in Bend, OR, at 4000+ feet in 95 degree weather being the hardest 4 mile run I've had in a long time. I planned my last race to be the weekend before this trip so it would coincide with what have been a down week anyway, and I'll get back at it this week with a trail marathon looming in 8 weeks. Need to squeeze in a 20 miler or two over the next 5 weeks, at least I'm entering this training phase on fresh legs.

But I really popped in here tonight looking for some good thoughts and mojo. My buddy Jim, who I paced at Western States this summer, had his knee surgery a couple of weeks ago. Everything seemed to go well, and while I was up in Bend I went with him while he got his stitches taken out. Later that day, he started to feel pain in the knee, and by afternoon it was swelling. We left the following morning and he went in to Urgent Care where they told him it was probably an infection, even though he didn't have any other symptoms. Well by that evening he had a 103 fever, uncontrollable shakes, and they took him to the ER where he was rushed into surgery (which took 2 hours). Turned out to be a severe staph infection deep in the knee joint, and it was pretty sketchy for the next 24 hours. He's now stabilized and home after 4 days in the hospital, but in a lot of pain, and with the plan of 4-6 weeks of IV antibiotics to try and deal with the infection. But his health is still at risk, and there is still the possibility that they'll have to do a complete joint replacement if the infection doesn't get better pretty quickly. So hoping the FFA running crew can send out some good, positive thoughts Jimmy's way.
Thoughts & Prayers on the way to your friend Jimmy.. Sad news - hope he can pull through.
 
No posts for 10 hours? Blasphemy!

Did my normal 29 mile ride today. For this length ride this was the hardest ride I can remember. Highest average wattage for that ride by a bit (230 watts for the hour of real riding). Fastest ride I've done for that circuit - right on 20mph (2,000ft. of climbing in there, too). Set 3 PRs and my power profile was pegging my all-time maximums the whole ride. I'm gonna feel this one tomorrow.

I'm going to sleep. :sleep:

 
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