Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[Miscellaneous]

Thanks for the advice so far, guys!

For what it's worth on the observations/questions:

- I definitely run every run like a race - I'm running whatever pace I feel like I can do. Recently, I've been paying a lot more attention to the heart rate monitor, and try to keep my heart 140-160. I hit 170ish when I'm climbing hills, but I've found I can run a lot further when I focus on staying in the 150 range.

- I live on top of a 900 ft hill - I actually do short windsprints up the hill periodically, when I want to get a workout in 10-15 minutes.

- I guess right now I'm running about 10-15 miles a week; should I be trying to add 1-2 miles a week?

- As a stockier guy, I found out early on that I CAN'T heel-strike; my calves seize up completely within 20 minutes. I've been forestriking since before forestriking was cool.

I run every day around my house, which has good hills; I could definitely feel the difference while I was running the half marathon. I was proud of myself just for running the whole thing.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Thanks for the advice so far, guys!

For what it's worth on the observations/questions:

- I definitely run every run like a race - I'm running whatever pace I feel like I can do. Recently, I've been paying a lot more attention to the heart rate monitor, and try to keep my heart 140-160. I hit 170ish when I'm climbing hills, but I've found I can run a lot further when I focus on staying in the 150 range.

- I live on top of a 900 ft hill - I actually do short windsprints up the hill periodically, when I want to get a workout in 10-15 minutes.

- I guess right now I'm running about 10-15 miles a week; should I be trying to add 1-2 miles a week?

- As a stockier guy, I found out early on that I CAN'T heel-strike; my calves seize up completely within 20 minutes. I've been forestriking since before forestriking was cool.

I run every day around my house, which has good hills; I could definitely feel the difference while I was running the half marathon. I was proud of myself just for running the whole thing.

The standard rule of thumb is that you can safely add 10% to your total mileage each week. Do that for a few weeks until you're up to 20-25 miles per week. Then maintain that for a few weeks and see how things go. Others will disagree with this, but my advice is to not worry about heel-striking. Most runners are heel-strikers. It's not optimal, but it's not a big deal either. Getting injured while trying to change your stride, however, is a big deal.

 

[Sand]

Thanks for the advice so far, guys!For what it's worth on the observations/questions: - I definitely run every run like a race - I'm running whatever pace I feel like I can do. Recently, I've been paying a lot more attention to the heart rate monitor, and try to keep my heart 140-160. I hit 170ish when I'm climbing hills, but I've found I can run a lot further when I focus on staying in the 150 range. - I live on top of a 900 ft hill - I actually do short windsprints up the hill periodically, when I want to get a workout in 10-15 minutes. - I guess right now I'm running about 10-15 miles a week; should I be trying to add 1-2 miles a week? - As a stockier guy, I found out early on that I CAN'T heel-strike; my calves seize up completely within 20 minutes. I've been forestriking since before forestriking was cool. I run every day around my house, which has good hills; I could definitely feel the difference while I was running the half marathon. I was proud of myself just for running the whole thing.

I'd blather on and on about HR zones and how to keep it easy, but I'm easily the worst in this thread about that stuff. So I'll skip the sanctimony. A 900ft hill? In my parts that would be a mountain. Where are you, Nepal?Rule of thumb is 10% per week, though you can probably do a bit more than that as long as you back off if you feel something going awry.You're not forefoot striking (less than 5% do, and almost none are bigger guys). You're hitting mid-foot, more than likely. And that is fine (Ryan Hall does and thinks it is the way to go). At least you are consistent - my feet have two entirely different strike spots and shoe wear patterns.

 

[Miscellaneous]

I'd blather on and on about HR zones and how to keep it easy, but I'm easily the worst in this thread about that stuff. So I'll skip the sanctimony. A 900ft hill? In my parts that would be a mountain. Where are you, Nepal?Rule of thumb is 10% per week, though you can probably do a bit more than that as long as you back off if you feel something going awry.You're not forefoot striking (less than 5% do, and almost none are bigger guys). You're hitting mid-foot, more than likely. And that is fine (Ryan Hall does and thinks it is the way to go). At least you are consistent - my feet have two entirely different strike spots and shoe wear patterns.

Yeah - I have a love/hate relationship with my hill. These days, I actually dig it, because I go out for my run, come back tired, then have to pound up the hill (hiking, not running). It helps burn more calories, and keeps my heart rate up longer than I can on pure running. (NE Los Angeles, by the way).Fair enough on the fore/mid striking.

 

[Sand]

Yeah - I have a love/hate relationship with my hill. These days, I actually dig it, because I go out for my run, come back tired, then have to pound up the hill (hiking, not running). It helps burn more calories, and keeps my heart rate up longer than I can on pure running. (NE Los Angeles, by the way).Fair enough on the fore/mid striking.

Cool - is that like the Topanga area? I've been up in there and there are some really hilly areas in there. We have the same steep hills here, just not quite as high (our largest climbs are about 600ft or so).

 

[gruecd]

Hey Sand, thanks for the solid advice on the Saints, too, btw.

 

[tri-man 47]

Yeah - I have a love/hate relationship with my hill. These days, I actually dig it, because I go out for my run, come back tired, then have to pound up the hill (hiking, not running). It helps burn more calories, and keeps my heart rate up longer than I can on pure running. (NE Los Angeles, by the way).

That hill could really be an advantage for you. You can use it for short, but efficient, workouts, as you mention. You can also attack it at the end of 'regular' runs to finish with a HR push and to prepare for the end of races. Feel the love!

 

[beer 302]

Yeah - I have a love/hate relationship with my hill. These days, I actually dig it, because I go out for my run, come back tired, then have to pound up the hill (hiking, not running). It helps burn more calories, and keeps my heart rate up longer than I can on pure running. (NE Los Angeles, by the way).

That hill could really be an advantage for you. You can use it for short, but efficient, workouts, as you mention. You can also attack it at the end of 'regular' runs to finish with a HR push and to prepare for the end of races. Feel the love!

Yes, embrace the suck. Love your hill and it will love you come race day.

 

[gruecd]

Suprisingly good 14-miler tonight on the back of yesterday's marathon. Sluggish for the first 6-7 miles, but then legs really woke up. Split 61:17/56:30. Last two miles 7:26 and 7:19. I did not expect that.

I think I could end up being pretty good at this ultra thing...

 

[MAC_32]

Encouraging run tonight, did a 3 mile route to the gym and held a 6 min pace all the way beyond the 2 mile mark. Really died towards the end, but hoping adrenaline can carry me to the finish Sunday. More optimistic about sub 20 now. Going to go for a short (4), easy run tomorrow - long (6), easy run Wed - short (3), easy run Thurs + gym then take Fri and Sat off.

 

[gruecd]

You guys remember autistic hoops hero Jason "J-Mac" McElwain, the kid who played four minutes in his HS team's game back in 2006, hit six 3-pointers, and scored 20 points? Well, he ran 3:01:41 in his first marathon this past weekend and qualified for Boston.

Pretty damn cool, if I do say so myself.

 

[SFBayDuck]

You guys remember autistic hoops hero Jason "J-Mac" McElwain, the kid who played four minutes in his HS team's game back in 2006, hit six 3-pointers, and scored 20 points? Well, he ran 3:01:41 in his first marathon this past weekend and qualified for Boston.

Pretty damn cool, if I do say so myself.

Wow, great story. Kid can hoop and run!

 

[Da Guru]

How often/miles do you people replace shoes?

 

[gruecd]

How often/miles do you people replace shoes?

Every 400 miles or so.

 

[prosopis]

The long slow Maffetone/Metabolic Efficiency Training experiment continued today.....

I bought Maffetone's "The Big Book of Endurance Training and Racing" this week and in reading through that picked up on the importance of a longer warmup. I've noticed my HR on a normal run, even with 1/4 mile or so of walking warmup, spikes instantly to 160+ before settling into where I want it to be. That may fire up the carb-burning systems and suppress fat burning, so today I strapped on the headlamp at 6:00 and set out walking toward the trailhead about a mile away. The trail then starts uphill but I kept walking for another mile before breaking into a "normal" pace, with my eye on my HR the entire time. The scenery as I threw the headlamp into the hydration vest and the sun started to come up was amazing, gotta love the early morning runs.

I was able to hold it pretty well for most of the first two hours, but after a steady 30 minute climb at about the 2 hour mark it rose up into the 150-155 range for much of the final 2 hours.

Before I went out I had some coffee with a splash of coconut milk, chia seeds with water, and a spoonful of coconut oil - basically all good fats. I also took 5 MAP amino acid supplements 30 minutes prior, and 5 afterward. I had a gel at 1:30/2:30/3:30, and just water (no extra electrolytes other than the GUs).

Finished with a mile of walking cool down which put me at about 4:10 by the time I was done, and 18 miles. Super slow pace, no question, but it was interesting that:

1) my HR didn't have that normal spike with the long warmup

2) I never felt low on energy despite no carbs before and minimal during

3) Despite chugging along for 4+ hours with a few climbs and some technical trail, I felt really good afterward, not beat up at all

It's kind of fun experimenting with this stuff. The key will be whether I actually get faster at these low HRs, which is the whole idea. I'll do the MAF (Maximum Aerobic Function) test this week to get a baseline - 5 miles at MAF (for me 131-141 pace) with mile splits recorded, a test which is then repeated every 3-4 weeks. The idea is that my pace will increase at the same HR over time, so the test allows that progress to be measured. I also got Joe Friels book on HR training, all with the goal of coming up with a training plan to meet my primary goal - running 50 miles in under eleven hours in April, and doing so without having to risk the possible GI distress of pounding gels down every 30 minutes.

interesting

 

[prosopis]

Very cool thing you do with the pacing work, grue. I'd love to do that. But I think I'd stick to pacing 5ks. Maybe people aiming for sub 20

Thanks, koby. Unfortunately, I don't think I've ever seen a pacer in a 5K!Week in review:

M - 5 @ 8:20/mile

T - 24.7 (trail) @ 10:11

W - rest

T - 10 @ 8:18 (lunch), 6 @ 8:46 (eve)

F - rest

S - 3 easy @ 8:39

S - 26.2 @ 8:19

Total - 75 miles

14 miles on tap for this afternoon. Then rest tomorrow, 20+ on the trail on Wednesday, rest (volleyball) Thursday, 12 on Friday, and 26 on Saturday. Sheesh.

Good god.

That is crazy talk/running

 

[prosopis]

You guys remember autistic hoops hero Jason "J-Mac" McElwain, the kid who played four minutes in his HS team's game back in 2006, hit six 3-pointers, and scored 20 points? Well, he ran 3:01:41 in his first marathon this past weekend and qualified for Boston.

Pretty damn cool, if I do say so myself.

That is cool

 

[Sand]

For a doubleheader today I took my 13 year old out on a short 15 mile ride. Real easy except for one Strava KOM attempt. Missed the attempt by three seconds ( ), but set a new 1 minute PR at 493w. Way, way below what I should be doing at that time frame, but I'll take it.

 

[prosopis]

I did 7 miles @ 9:40 today and it seemed harder then it should have been. After my debacle on Saturday and now just not feeling it I am getting wierded out. Tomorrow I have 9 x 400 and Wednesday 5 miles @ 9:40. I am then supposed to rest for two days and then race a 15k. I dont have a 15k to race so I was just going to try and repeat my 13 mile long run I attempted last Saturday. This is week 9 of the Higdon half marathon plan which I have tweaked. I am looking forward to the two rest days and I hope they will set me up for a nice Saturday.

I dont really know what I am doing.

 

[Ned]

How often/miles do you people replace shoes?

Every 400 miles or so.

Same for me, although everyone's gonna be different. Weight, stride, and running surface will all be factors in how long the shoes will last. My tell tale sign of when my shoes are done is when I start to get aches behind my knee caps. It's almost always around that 400mi mark when I notice the aching.

 

[Ned]

I did 7 miles @ 9:40 today and it seemed harder then it should have been. After my debacle on Saturday and now just not feeling it I am getting wierded out. Tomorrow I have 9 x 400 and Wednesday 5 miles @ 9:40. I am then supposed to rest for two days and then race a 15k. I dont have a 15k to race so I was just going to try and repeat my 13 mile long run I attempted last Saturday. This is week 9 of the Higdon half marathon plan which I have tweaked. I am looking forward to the two rest days and I hope they will set me up for a nice Saturday. I dont really know what I am doing.

Sorry I can't remember, but you've improved so much I've lost track of where you're really at. What is the 9:40 pace in terms of race pace? Is that your HM pace?

 

[Ned]

I think I could end up being pretty good at this ultra thing...

Like none of us saw this coming....

 

[beer 302]

I dont really know what I am doing.

We should start a club

 

[MAC_32]

My tell tale sign of when my shoes are done is when I start to get aches behind my knee caps.

Lower calves and ankles for me.

 

[koby925]

You guys remember autistic hoops hero Jason "J-Mac" McElwain, the kid who played four minutes in his HS team's game back in 2006, hit six 3-pointers, and scored 20 points? Well, he ran 3:01:41 in his first marathon this past weekend and qualified for Boston.

Pretty damn cool, if I do say so myself.

Very cool! My wife's cousin is autistic and is a stud athlete also. In addition to hoops, various water sports, he'll go out off of no training and run 45 minute 10ks. I'm gonna send him this.

 

[ATC1]

10 miler at Disney this weekend. Have a half marathon in 4 weeks before my first full this January. Hating every second of running, but enjoying every second of eating.

Run Hard. Eat Freely.

 

[BassNBrew]

How often/miles do you people replace shoes?

Every 400 miles or so.

Same for me, although everyone's gonna be different. Weight, stride, and running surface will all be factors in how long the shoes will last. My tell tale sign of when my shoes are done is when I start to get aches behind my knee caps. It's almost always around that 400mi mark when I notice the aching.

About 500 to 600 here but I'm slow so less friction.

 

[Da Guru]

Still plan on doin the Detroit half marathon.

I am doing this because my friends wife passed away this past summer and all of his friends and family are doing it. Some full, some half. Since I am more of a cross fit, weight lifter type of trainer running does not come natural for me. Sprinting yes, long distance no. Right now I am at my lowest weight in years though at 6-1 and 210lbs. Jan 1 I was 225 but was lifting pretty heavy 5-6 days a week. Now I do very light weights and run/power walk 4-5 miles a day. My longest was 7 miles and I felt pretty good, still not sure if I can make the half running the whole way, but if I run/walk I should be OK.

I have never been in something like this. Does the half and full marathon start at the same starting line?

 

[Sand]

Still plan on doin the Detroit half marathon. I am doing this because my friends wife passed away this past summer and all of his friends and family are doing it. Some full, some half. Since I am more of a cross fit, weight lifter type of trainer running does not come natural for me. Sprinting yes, long distance no. Right now I am at my lowest weight in years though at 6-1 and 210lbs. Jan 1 I was 225 but was lifting pretty heavy 5-6 days a week. Now I do very light weights and run/power walk 4-5 miles a day. My longest was 7 miles and I felt pretty good, still not sure if I can make the half running the whole way, but if I run/walk I should be OK.I have never been in something like this. Does the half and full marathon start at the same starting line?

Typically everyone starts at the same time. The half will either do 1 lap (if the full is two laps) or there is a split off where the half folks deviate and finish early. We have lots of Detroit folks in here, so they may know how this one works.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Still plan on doin the Detroit half marathon.

I am doing this because my friends wife passed away this past summer and all of his friends and family are doing it. Some full, some half. Since I am more of a cross fit, weight lifter type of trainer running does not come natural for me. Sprinting yes, long distance no. Right now I am at my lowest weight in years though at 6-1 and 210lbs. Jan 1 I was 225 but was lifting pretty heavy 5-6 days a week. Now I do very light weights and run/power walk 4-5 miles a day. My longest was 7 miles and I felt pretty good, still not sure if I can make the half running the whole way, but if I run/walk I should be OK.

I have never been in something like this. Does the half and full marathon start at the same starting line?

Both do start at 7am at the same line, but they are doing wave starts. There is a good explanation of this in their FAQs. You'll enter a corral based on the projected finishing time you put down when you registered. I've done Detroit 5 times and I'll tell you, there were lots and lots of runners who way over shot their abilities. If I were you, I would enter the corral you are assigned or drop back a few. This will give you room to run and you won't have runners crawling up your back. You have all 5 lanes on Fort to almost the bridge for things to taper down. It gets congested as heck as you enter the bridge. You might want to plan a walk here as you'll probably be close to walking anyway. To help you picture the starting line, its about 25 yards West of the Anchor Bar and the corrals are all East of there. Where ever you park, Cobo is a great place to hang out and keep warm before you head to the start line. From there, just walk up Washington and turn left on Fort to find your corral. They'll be a large bank of porta-johns in the lot on Cass and Fort. For a last minute pee, I'd get in line at about 5 to 7 and if the gun goes off, don't worry. You can jump in at your corral or up a but as the waves move up. Your race doesn't begin until you (and your timing chip on your bib) cross the start line. Don't be in a rush, you've got 13.1 miles to cover, no need to burn up energy trying to get out too fast.

 

[beer 302]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

 

[MAC_32]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

Under Armor cold gear, but at 50 I'm just going with long sleeves. If it's real bad I'll go with sweats over the cold gear too. I don't run as far either, breathing issues develop - but that's not until it gets below 20.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

What do you mean by "healthy"?

 

[beer 302]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

What do you mean by "healthy"?

Being not sick. Running in colder temps tends to do things to your body ie breathing issue MAC mentioned above so do you eat certain foods that help keep your immune system up? Take a different supplement? That kind of stuff. I didn't really start running until the tail end of the cold season this year I wasn't out 30-40 degree temps. Just curious of there are any tips/tricks you guys have used in the past with the upcoming winter season.

 

[Ned]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

What do you mean by "healthy"?

Being not sick. Running in colder temps tends to do things to your body ie breathing issue MAC mentioned above so do you eat certain foods that help keep your immune system up? Take a different supplement? That kind of stuff. I didn't really start running until the tail end of the cold season this year I wasn't out 30-40 degree temps. Just curious of there are any tips/tricks you guys have used in the past with the upcoming winter season.

Wait what? What breathing issues and immune issues? I just add a layer and go run.

 

[Sand]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

A guy with the name "beer" wonders what can warm him up, nourish him, and keep him healthy on those nippy days?

 

[sho nuff]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

What do you mean by "healthy"?

Being not sick. Running in colder temps tends to do things to your body ie breathing issue MAC mentioned above so do you eat certain foods that help keep your immune system up? Take a different supplement? That kind of stuff. I didn't really start running until the tail end of the cold season this year I wasn't out 30-40 degree temps. Just curious of there are any tips/tricks you guys have used in the past with the upcoming winter season.

30-40 is great.Unless its just bitter bitter cold where it does affect your breathing (which it will some...slow down some as it will take a bit more out of you in truely cold temps).For the most part...layer enough to be comfortable yet warm. If you get too hot remove a layer.Cover skin from bad wind...and enjoy the crisp air.I loved the cold running last year. Other than ice...the winter is a great time to run down here IMO.

 

[gruecd]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

What do you mean by "healthy"?

Being not sick. Running in colder temps tends to do things to your body ie breathing issue MAC mentioned above so do you eat certain foods that help keep your immune system up? Take a different supplement? That kind of stuff. I didn't really start running until the tail end of the cold season this year I wasn't out 30-40 degree temps. Just curious of there are any tips/tricks you guys have used in the past with the upcoming winter season.

Wait what? What breathing issues and immune issues? I just add a layer and go run.

And since when is 50 cold?!? Hell, I'm still shirtless sometimes at 50...

 

[beer 302]

Wait what? What breathing issues and immune issues? I just add a layer and go run.

LOL, easy boss, just a newbie asking questions.

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

A guy with the name "beer" wonders what can warm him up, nourish him, and keep him healthy on those nippy days?

Point taken

 

[sho nuff]

I can see breathing issues.

I do have much more trouble in the winter with my breathing (when its really cold (must be under 20 for this and usually in the teens or under).

Some of that has to do with my own asthma seems to act up much more in the cold draining my lung capacity.

 

[Ned]

Wait what? What breathing issues and immune issues? I just add a layer and go run.

LOL, easy boss, just a newbie asking questions.

Oh. I thought you read something. I won't layer up until the 20s hit. 30-40 = long sleeves and shorts. 40-50 I'm short sleeves and shorts. 50+ I'm wearing singlet/shorts. Gloves and merino wool socks are a staple for winter.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I'm with Ned, I have no idea what this breathing issue is. I know the concept of getting sick because you go outside without a hat and scarf is an old wives' tale. My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves. But then again, on the really cold days, I use a treadmill. :ducksforcover:

On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apolgized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

 

[Sand]

Wait what? What breathing issues and immune issues? I just add a layer and go run.

LOL, easy boss, just a newbie asking questions.

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

A guy with the name "beer" wonders what can warm him up, nourish him, and keep him healthy on those nippy days?

Point taken

 

[prosopis]

I did 7 miles @ 9:40 today and it seemed harder then it should have been. After my debacle on Saturday and now just not feeling it I am getting wierded out. Tomorrow I have 9 x 400 and Wednesday 5 miles @ 9:40. I am then supposed to rest for two days and then race a 15k. I dont have a 15k to race so I was just going to try and repeat my 13 mile long run I attempted last Saturday. This is week 9 of the Higdon half marathon plan which I have tweaked. I am looking forward to the two rest days and I hope they will set me up for a nice Saturday. I dont really know what I am doing.

Sorry I can't remember, but you've improved so much I've lost track of where you're really at. What is the 9:40 pace in terms of race pace? Is that your HM pace?

My best is a 9:59 2 years ago?I have improved and I admit to cheating McMillans numbers. I do my long runs at about 10:16,pace runs at 9:22.I am hoping to get about 9:30 at my Oct half but it does involve running up A mountain which will put a dent in that goal. I am doing another half in December and I feel I have a much better chance at a 9:30 pace there.

 

[prosopis]

My tell tale sign of when my shoes are done is when I start to get aches behind my knee caps.

Lower calves and ankles for me.

When I can afford them for me. I keep shoes longer then I should.

 

[prosopis]

I'm with Ned, I have no idea what this breathing issue is. I know the concept of getting sick because you go outside without a hat and scarf is an old wives' tale. My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves. But then again, on the really cold days, I use a treadmill. :ducksforcover:On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apolgized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

I turn and charge them. I am winding up to kick a 50 yard field goal. I have yet for one to get close enough for me to connect. I think they freak out when I turn on them. I really get mad when dogs come after me. My biggest issue is I am pretty sure I will feel really bad if I ever connect with a dogs head. I wont feel bad if it is a nasty big dog but if it looks like juniors pet I will feel guilty.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I'm with Ned, I have no idea what this breathing issue is. I know the concept of getting sick because you go outside without a hat and scarf is an old wives' tale. My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves. But then again, on the really cold days, I use a treadmill. :ducksforcover:On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apolgized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

I turn and charge them. I am winding up to kick a 50 yard field goal. I have yet for one to get close enough for me to connect. I think they freak out when I turn on them. I really get mad when dogs come after me. My biggest issue is I am pretty sure I will feel really bad if I ever connect with a dogs head. I wont feel bad if it is a nasty big dog but if it looks like juniors pet I will feel guilty.

After getting bit that one time, I told myself I'd Karate Kid kick the dog in the head the next time. But what can I say? I guess I just don't have it in me.

 

[prosopis]

I'm with Ned, I have no idea what this breathing issue is. I know the concept of getting sick because you go outside without a hat and scarf is an old wives' tale. My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves. But then again, on the really cold days, I use a treadmill. :ducksforcover:On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apolgized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

I turn and charge them. I am winding up to kick a 50 yard field goal. I have yet for one to get close enough for me to connect. I think they freak out when I turn on them. I really get mad when dogs come after me. My biggest issue is I am pretty sure I will feel really bad if I ever connect with a dogs head. I wont feel bad if it is a nasty big dog but if it looks like juniors pet I will feel guilty.

After getting bit that one time, I told myself I'd Karate Kid kick the dog in the head the next time. But what can I say? I guess I just don't have it in me.

I cause a real scene. I am yelling at the top of my lungs as I charge. I really hope I dont ever connect.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I'm with Ned, I have no idea what this breathing issue is. I know the concept of getting sick because you go outside without a hat and scarf is an old wives' tale. My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves. But then again, on the really cold days, I use a treadmill. :ducksforcover:On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apologized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

I turn and charge them. I am winding up to kick a 50 yard field goal. I have yet for one to get close enough for me to connect. I think they freak out when I turn on them. I really get mad when dogs come after me. My biggest issue is I am pretty sure I will feel really bad if I ever connect with a dogs head. I wont feel bad if it is a nasty big dog but if it looks like juniors pet I will feel guilty.

After getting bit that one time, I told myself I'd Karate Kid kick the dog in the head the next time. But what can I say? I guess I just don't have it in me.

I cause a real scene. I am yelling at the top of my lungs as I charge. I really hope I dont ever connect.

I can imagine you at a neighborhood party one day meeting someone new and he says, "I remember you! You went ballistic on my dog!"

 

[sho nuff]

I'm with Ned, I have no idea what this breathing issue is. I know the concept of getting sick because you go outside without a hat and scarf is an old wives' tale. My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves. But then again, on the really cold days, I use a treadmill. :ducksforcover:On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apologized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

I turn and charge them. I am winding up to kick a 50 yard field goal. I have yet for one to get close enough for me to connect. I think they freak out when I turn on them. I really get mad when dogs come after me. My biggest issue is I am pretty sure I will feel really bad if I ever connect with a dogs head. I wont feel bad if it is a nasty big dog but if it looks like juniors pet I will feel guilty.

After getting bit that one time, I told myself I'd Karate Kid kick the dog in the head the next time. But what can I say? I guess I just don't have it in me.

I cause a real scene. I am yelling at the top of my lungs as I charge. I really hope I dont ever connect.

I can imagine you at a neighborhood party one day meeting someone new and he says, "I remember you! You went ballistic on my dog!"

Or..."hey...are you the guy that ran into my horse?"