Ran a 10k in June (4 Viewers)

[ChiefD]

HM is coming up this weekend. Accidentally ran 14.6 this past weekend for my long run. My training calendar called for a 2:00 hour run, so I was planning on running a relatively slow 13ish miles. My son had a soccer game, so I mapped out a route from my house to the soccer fields that was a little over 13 miles. So I timed it to meet the family there about 15 minutes before game time. Somehow ended up being 14.6, and made it there right at kickoff. Pace was 8:54. No heart rate data.

The last 2 weeks I've abandoned the HR monitor. Sorry to all those here, but that thing was getting in my head big time. Consequently, I've been running a lot more free, if that makes sense. Just running at whatever pace feels right. So the 2 runs before this past weekend I ran a 6.01 at a 8:19 pace, and also 5 at a 8:09 pace.

I'm still debating on whether to wear it Saturday. Right now I'm leaning towards no, because I don't want to think about it and look at it, which if I'm wearing it I'll look at the thing all day.

 

[Juxtatarot]

HM is coming up this weekend. Accidentally ran 14.6 this past weekend for my long run. My training calendar called for a 2:00 hour run, so I was planning on running a relatively slow 13ish miles. My son had a soccer game, so I mapped out a route from my house to the soccer fields that was a little over 13 miles. So I timed it to meet the family there about 15 minutes before game time. Somehow ended up being 14.6, and made it there right at kickoff. Pace was 8:54. No heart rate data.

The last 2 weeks I've abandoned the HR monitor. Sorry to all those here, but that thing was getting in my head big time. Consequently, I've been running a lot more free, if that makes sense. Just running at whatever pace feels right. So the 2 runs before this past weekend I ran a 6.01 at a 8:19 pace, and also 5 at a 8:09 pace.

I'm still debating on whether to wear it Saturday. Right now I'm leaning towards no, because I don't want to think about it and look at it, which if I'm wearing it I'll look at the thing all day.

Can you wear it but not have it show during the race? For my watch I pick what data fields I want to have displayed. Even if you don't want to see your HR during the race, I think you will find the data valuable after the fact.

 

[ChiefD]

HM is coming up this weekend. Accidentally ran 14.6 this past weekend for my long run. My training calendar called for a 2:00 hour run, so I was planning on running a relatively slow 13ish miles. My son had a soccer game, so I mapped out a route from my house to the soccer fields that was a little over 13 miles. So I timed it to meet the family there about 15 minutes before game time. Somehow ended up being 14.6, and made it there right at kickoff. Pace was 8:54. No heart rate data.

The last 2 weeks I've abandoned the HR monitor. Sorry to all those here, but that thing was getting in my head big time. Consequently, I've been running a lot more free, if that makes sense. Just running at whatever pace feels right. So the 2 runs before this past weekend I ran a 6.01 at a 8:19 pace, and also 5 at a 8:09 pace.

I'm still debating on whether to wear it Saturday. Right now I'm leaning towards no, because I don't want to think about it and look at it, which if I'm wearing it I'll look at the thing all day.

Can you wear it but not have it show during the race? For my watch I pick what data fields I want to have displayed. Even if you don't want to see your HR during the race, I think you will find the data valuable after the fact.

Yeah, I can definitely do that. And maybe that's the answer. Because you're right - I really want the data, but not have to think about it.

 

[Sand]

HM is coming up this weekend. Accidentally ran 14.6 this past weekend for my long run. My training calendar called for a 2:00 hour run, so I was planning on running a relatively slow 13ish miles. My son had a soccer game, so I mapped out a route from my house to the soccer fields that was a little over 13 miles. So I timed it to meet the family there about 15 minutes before game time. Somehow ended up being 14.6, and made it there right at kickoff. Pace was 8:54. No heart rate data.

The last 2 weeks I've abandoned the HR monitor. Sorry to all those here, but that thing was getting in my head big time. Consequently, I've been running a lot more free, if that makes sense. Just running at whatever pace feels right. So the 2 runs before this past weekend I ran a 6.01 at a 8:19 pace, and also 5 at a 8:09 pace.

I'm still debating on whether to wear it Saturday. Right now I'm leaning towards no, because I don't want to think about it and look at it, which if I'm wearing it I'll look at the thing all day.

Duct tape.

 

[Brony]

HM is coming up this weekend. Accidentally ran 14.6 this past weekend for my long run. My training calendar called for a 2:00 hour run, so I was planning on running a relatively slow 13ish miles. My son had a soccer game, so I mapped out a route from my house to the soccer fields that was a little over 13 miles. So I timed it to meet the family there about 15 minutes before game time. Somehow ended up being 14.6, and made it there right at kickoff. Pace was 8:54. No heart rate data.

The last 2 weeks I've abandoned the HR monitor. Sorry to all those here, but that thing was getting in my head big time. Consequently, I've been running a lot more free, if that makes sense. Just running at whatever pace feels right. So the 2 runs before this past weekend I ran a 6.01 at a 8:19 pace, and also 5 at a 8:09 pace.

I'm still debating on whether to wear it Saturday. Right now I'm leaning towards no, because I don't want to think about it and look at it, which if I'm wearing it I'll look at the thing all day.

The only data tracking I do is ballpark the number of songs I listened to during a run and I only do that if I'm running somewhere new and want to make sure that I can get home.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Ran what I would imagine was 4 miles today. Went no watch and just ran. I am in atlanta and went to piedmont park. Felt great to actually be running in nice spring weather.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I did an out-and-back 10 miler earlier today; it was way colder (35-40) and windier (15-20 mph) than what I had planned on. My hands are still kind of stiff since I hadn't thought to pack gloves.

 

[tri-man 47]

HM is coming up this weekend. Accidentally ran 14.6 this past weekend for my long run. My training calendar called for a 2:00 hour run, so I was planning on running a relatively slow 13ish miles. My son had a soccer game, so I mapped out a route from my house to the soccer fields that was a little over 13 miles. So I timed it to meet the family there about 15 minutes before game time. Somehow ended up being 14.6, and made it there right at kickoff. Pace was 8:54. No heart rate data.

The last 2 weeks I've abandoned the HR monitor. Sorry to all those here, but that thing was getting in my head big time. Consequently, I've been running a lot more free, if that makes sense. Just running at whatever pace feels right. So the 2 runs before this past weekend I ran a 6.01 at a 8:19 pace, and also 5 at a 8:09 pace.

I'm still debating on whether to wear it Saturday. Right now I'm leaning towards no, because I don't want to think about it and look at it, which if I'm wearing it I'll look at the thing all day.

Can you wear it but not have it show during the race? For my watch I pick what data fields I want to have displayed. Even if you don't want to see your HR during the race, I think you will find the data valuable after the fact.

Yeah, I can definitely do that. And maybe that's the answer. Because you're right - I really want the data, but not have to think about it.

I agree with Juxt's point (put the HR on a screen you won't be viewing), and I agree that you'll be glad you have the data ..either for training comparisons or just to compare on a future race. You should gain some good insights if you compare your mile splits to the HR data in the HM. Run a good race!!!

 

[worrierking]

HM is coming up this weekend. Accidentally ran 14.6 this past weekend for my long run. My training calendar called for a 2:00 hour run, so I was planning on running a relatively slow 13ish miles. My son had a soccer game, so I mapped out a route from my house to the soccer fields that was a little over 13 miles. So I timed it to meet the family there about 15 minutes before game time. Somehow ended up being 14.6, and made it there right at kickoff. Pace was 8:54. No heart rate data.

The last 2 weeks I've abandoned the HR monitor. Sorry to all those here, but that thing was getting in my head big time. Consequently, I've been running a lot more free, if that makes sense. Just running at whatever pace feels right. So the 2 runs before this past weekend I ran a 6.01 at a 8:19 pace, and also 5 at a 8:09 pace.

I'm still debating on whether to wear it Saturday. Right now I'm leaning towards no, because I don't want to think about it and look at it, which if I'm wearing it I'll look at the thing all day.

Can you wear it but not have it show during the race? For my watch I pick what data fields I want to have displayed. Even if you don't want to see your HR during the race, I think you will find the data valuable after the fact.

Yeah, I can definitely do that. And maybe that's the answer. Because you're right - I really want the data, but not have to think about it.

I agree with Juxt's point (put the HR on a screen you won't be viewing), and I agree that you'll be glad you have the data ..either for training comparisons or just to compare on a future race. You should gain some good insights if you compare your mile splits to the HR data in the HM. Run a good race!!!

I freaked out the first marathon I ran when I looked at the HR data. I have always kept it hidden since then and only had the data for later viewing.

Beer, I signed up for the Columbia Marathon. Looks like it's hilly. Oops!

 

[Sand]

Short ride tonight. Storms everywhere around us, but not on us. Miracle. Middle 8 miles was pretty good - 255w avg, 265 normalized. Could have kept that up longer. Set new power mark at around 3 minutes - 370w or so. All this on the tri bike, which really isn't the best for high power stuff.

Depressed a bit about not getting to do my century this weekend. Thinking about putting one on the calender in 3 weeks. Not as hard, but hard enough. Oh, and I do have a race on my calendar this weekend - short duathlon. An hour at the redline - awesomeness.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

damn i've been lazy lately. on a crazy run of travel (nashville, hawaii, and DC in a 4 week period) and haven't been able to get into any kind of groove. gotta get my butt in gear for a half in a couple months!

anyway, some great racing in here recently! pretty impressive to see the PR's coming off the winter we just had.

 

[SteveC702]

Ned - looks like you are really rounding into form with your archery comeback, that's awesome to see and how long has your son been shooting? That would seem like a badass skill to have as an elementary schooler (although really, at any age).

Duck- Hey, I just realized I was probably pretty close to/in your neck of the woods yesterday. My buddy that I was staying with in Sacramento decided that since he took Monday to hang out with me he wanted to show me some of the sights around Northern California so we drove about 2 hours to the Marin Headland Trails to do our morning run. He found a 10-mile loop that had a 800-ft elevation gain the first 1.5 miles or so (which we subsequently came down from over the next 3-4 miles) and another 600-ft gain late in the run when we made our way back to our starting spot from a different trail. (so from those 2 sections alone I got in 1400+ ft). Thankfully the trail wasn't technical, but the downhills pounded the hell out of my quads and I'm a bit sore. Got a taste of what your trails are like though.

 

[beer 302]

Beer, I signed up for the Columbia Marathon. Looks like it's hilly. Oops!

SWEET! SC Cornhole 2015 underway!!!I just looked at the map, I'm not familiar at all with Columbia. That considered hilly there?

https://www.runhardcolumbiamarathon.com/images/mapMarathonFull.png

 

[Ned]

Beer, I signed up for the Columbia Marathon. Looks like it's hilly. Oops!

SWEET! SC Cornhole 2015 underway!!!I just looked at the map, I'm not familiar at all with Columbia. That considered hilly there?

https://www.runhardcolumbiamarathon.com/images/mapMarathonFull.png

Ned - looks like you are really rounding into form with your archery comeback, that's awesome to see and how long has your son been shooting? That would seem like a badass skill to have as an elementary schooler (although really, at any age).

Duck- Hey, I just realized I was probably pretty close to/in your neck of the woods yesterday. My buddy that I was staying with in Sacramento decided that since he took Monday to hang out with me he wanted to show me some of the sights around Northern California so we drove about 2 hours to the Marin Headland Trails to do our morning run. He found a 10-mile loop that had a 800-ft elevation gain the first 1.5 miles or so (which we subsequently came down from over the next 3-4 miles) and another 600-ft gain late in the run when we made our way back to our starting spot from a different trail. (so from those 2 sections alone I got in 1400+ ft). Thankfully the trail wasn't technical, but the downhills pounded the hell out of my quads and I'm a bit sore. Got a taste of what your trails are like though.

Funny seeing these two posts back to back... 544ft is barely a warmup for BnB and Duck.

Steve - yes, shooting very well recently. Lots of lessons from Nationals are paying off. Outdoor season is starting up - can't wait to get out and shoot the long stuff (out to 80yds). My son just started last summer - sky's the limit for him! It's incredibly satisfying having parents come up and comment on his near flawless form and then find out he's only 7.

My running has sucked ###. I have a trail half coming at the end of this month. This is the race where I have done the HM/10K/5K triple, but I opted for just the HM this time. I really have come to hate the downtime after a marathon or this triple (I still think the triple is harder than a full road marathon). I'd love to compete for top 15ish, but I'm realistically not in shape for running a sub 1:40 trail HM right now. I'd be thrilled with anything around 1:45.

 

[tri-man 47]

Ned, cool stuff about your son's shooting. I was actually thisclose to a road trip to Louisville to see your tournament, but just couldn't break free. Next time.

 

[Ned]

Ned, cool stuff about your son's shooting. I was actually thisclose to a road trip to Louisville to see your tournament, but just couldn't break free. Next time.

That would've been cool!

I'm about as 100% on going back as I can be for it being that far out! Zack showed a strong interest in shooting it next year too, so with any luck we'll both be there shooting it. Just like any parent I guess, but I have some big dreams of seeing him holding a national cup in his hands as a youngin'. He's got a gift.

 

[Ned]

Anyone watch the Diane Van Deren story on HBO Real Sports? We caught it in the hotel room last week..... I found it hugely inspirational. Really makes me want to run an ultra.

This isn't the story we saw, but still fascinating

 

[worrierking]

Beer, I signed up for the Columbia Marathon. Looks like it's hilly. Oops!

SWEET! SC Cornhole 2015 underway!!!I just looked at the map, I'm not familiar at all with Columbia. That considered hilly there?

https://www.runhardcolumbiamarathon.com/images/mapMarathonFull.png

Yes, coastal Louisiana is about as flat as any place in the US and I have purposefully shied away from any marathon with any hills at all. This will be the hilliest I've ever attempted. Not only am I a wuss when it comes to heat, but hills too!

 

[Sand]

Beer, I signed up for the Columbia Marathon. Looks like it's hilly. Oops!

SWEET! SC Cornhole 2015 underway!!!I just looked at the map, I'm not familiar at all with Columbia. That considered hilly there?

https://www.runhardcolumbiamarathon.com/images/mapMarathonFull.png

Yes, coastal Louisiana is about as flat as any place in the US and I have purposefully shied away from any marathon with any hills at all. This will be the hilliest I've ever attempted. Not only am I a wuss when it comes to heat, but hills too!

Just as a point of order, since it really needs to be said:

Columbia SC sucks; Clemson SC rules.

That is all - carry on.

(Oh, and speaking of Louisiana marathons if I do one it will be the Baton Rouge one. Gotten very good reviews.)

 

[SFBayDuck]

Duck- Hey, I just realized I was probably pretty close to/in your neck of the woods yesterday. My buddy that I was staying with in Sacramento decided that since he took Monday to hang out with me he wanted to show me some of the sights around Northern California so we drove about 2 hours to the Marin Headland Trails to do our morning run. He found a 10-mile loop that had a 800-ft elevation gain the first 1.5 miles or so (which we subsequently came down from over the next 3-4 miles) and another 600-ft gain late in the run when we made our way back to our starting spot from a different trail. (so from those 2 sections alone I got in 1400+ ft). Thankfully the trail wasn't technical, but the downhills pounded the hell out of my quads and I'm a bit sore. Got a taste of what your trails are like though.

Very cool! Do you remember the names of the trails, or where you parked? The headlands are on the south side of Mt. Tam and I do most of my running on the north side, but I do like to get down there when I can (it's only a 20-30 minute drive, depending on the trail head). Some of the most beautiful in the area, for sure. That's where the North Face Endurance Challenge 50M is, so I'll probably try to get there more this summer than usual to get in some training on the trails before toeing the line in December.

Next time you're in Sac you should head the other way and get up on the trails around the American River. I'd bet a little time on the Western States trail would inspire you!

 

[SFBayDuck]

Anyone watch the Diane Van Deren story on HBO Real Sports? We caught it in the hotel room last week..... I found it hugely inspirational. Really makes me want to run an ultra.

This isn't the story we saw, but still fascinating

Very cool, thanks for the head's up. I'll look for that on HBO.

 

[beer 302]

Funny seeing these two posts back to back... 544ft is barely a warmup for BnB and Duck.

I was thinking the same. Looked at the elevation for the half I ran in Charlotte and it was 1300+. The trail 50k had an elevation gain of 3000+, I think I'll be ok.

Just as a point of order, since it really needs to be said:

Columbia SC sucks; Clemson SC rules.

That is all - carry on.

(Oh, and speaking of Louisiana marathons if I do one it will be the Baton Rouge one. Gotten very good reviews.)

Whatever dude Come run with us, you're close enough. Psst, don't tell BnB but I'm going to recruit him too. I'll tell him it will be a good training run for him or something.

Yes, coastal Louisiana is about as flat as any place in the US and I have purposefully shied away from any marathon with any hills at all. This will be the hilliest I've ever attempted. Not only am I a wuss when it comes to heat, but hills too!

Dude, other than maybe the face of the sun I can't think of too many other places in the world as hot as Louisiana in the summer. This will be down right cold for you in March. Not sure what to tell you about the hills. Hop on the treadmill and crank it up to a 1 maybe?

 

[worrierking]

Funny seeing these two posts back to back... 544ft is barely a warmup for BnB and Duck.

I was thinking the same. Looked at the elevation for the half I ran in Charlotte and it was 1300+. The trail 50k had an elevation gain of 3000+, I think I'll be ok.

Just as a point of order, since it really needs to be said:

Columbia SC sucks; Clemson SC rules.

That is all - carry on.

(Oh, and speaking of Louisiana marathons if I do one it will be the Baton Rouge one. Gotten very good reviews.)

Whatever dude Come run with us, you're close enough. Psst, don't tell BnB but I'm going to recruit him too. I'll tell him it will be a good training run for him or something.

Yes, coastal Louisiana is about as flat as any place in the US and I have purposefully shied away from any marathon with any hills at all. This will be the hilliest I've ever attempted. Not only am I a wuss when it comes to heat, but hills too!

Dude, other than maybe the face of the sun I can't think of too many other places in the world as hot as Louisiana in the summer. This will be down right cold for you in March. Not sure what to tell you about the hills. Hop on the treadmill and crank it up to a 1 maybe?

Ha! I know I will take some well-earned grief for this. My actual method for training on hills is to run up the ramps of a parking garage near my office. I did it before I ran the Half in Nashville, which was extremely hilly and the full in Dallas which was pretty hilly (for me) and kicked my ###. Of course it was 75 degrees and humid too. I really have no hills here except interstate overpasses. I am hoping for cold. 40 is perfect.

 

[gruecd]

Official time: 1:26: 48. New PR! 15 out of 687 overall and 2 out of 43 in age group..

******* got me by 13 seconds. No way I'll be getting that one back anytime soon, either!

 

[beer 302]

Ha! I know I will take some well-earned grief for this. My actual method for training on hills is to run up the ramps of a parking garage near my office. I did it before I ran the Half in Nashville, which was extremely hilly and the full in Dallas which was pretty hilly (for me) and kicked my ###. Of course it was 75 degrees and humid too. I really have no hills here except interstate overpasses. I am hoping for cold. 40 is perfect.

That's a great way to train for hills, we do it around here when it rains. The weather should be stellar that time of year as long as it isn't raining. I hate cold rain.

 

[Annyong]

Heard today that over 70k applied for the Chicago Marathon for about 45k spots. Crossing my fingers, broskis.

 

[tri-man 47]

Official time: 1:26: 48. New PR! 15 out of 687 overall and 2 out of 43 in age group..

******* got me by 13 seconds.

Juxt didn't bring this up at all on the way home. Oh, wait. Yes he did.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Official time: 1:26: 48. New PR! 15 out of 687 overall and 2 out of 43 in age group..

******* got me by 13 seconds.

Juxt didn't bring this up at all on the way home. Oh, wait. Yes he did.

Well, to be fair to me, his PRs are sitting there staring at me whenever he posts!

 

[SFBayDuck]

Official time: 1:26: 48. New PR! 15 out of 687 overall and 2 out of 43 in age group..

******* got me by 13 seconds.

Juxt didn't bring this up at all on the way home. Oh, wait. Yes he did.

Well, to be fair to me, his PRs are sitting there staring at me whenever he posts!

I won't ever touch gru's 50K PR, but don't think I haven't noticed his 50M time - on the right course on the right day, I can take 31 minutes of my PR. Of course if he ever does another one he'll probably take an hour or more off his own time.

 

[Sand]

Official time: 1:26: 48. New PR! 15 out of 687 overall and 2 out of 43 in age group..

******* got me by 13 seconds.

Juxt didn't bring this up at all on the way home. Oh, wait. Yes he did.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Heard today that over 70k applied for the Chicago Marathon for about 45k spots. Crossing my fingers, broskis.

Woah. I didn't realize that Chicago moved to a lottery. Did that happen just in the past couple of years?

 

[worrierking]

Official time: 1:26: 48. New PR! 15 out of 687 overall and 2 out of 43 in age group..

******* got me by 13 seconds.

Juxt didn't bring this up at all on the way home. Oh, wait. Yes he did.

Well, to be fair to me, his PRs are sitting there staring at me whenever he posts!

This whole series of posts made me chuckle.

 

[SteveC702]

Duck- Hey, I just realized I was probably pretty close to/in your neck of the woods yesterday. My buddy that I was staying with in Sacramento decided that since he took Monday to hang out with me he wanted to show me some of the sights around Northern California so we drove about 2 hours to the Marin Headland Trails to do our morning run. He found a 10-mile loop that had a 800-ft elevation gain the first 1.5 miles or so (which we subsequently came down from over the next 3-4 miles) and another 600-ft gain late in the run when we made our way back to our starting spot from a different trail. (so from those 2 sections alone I got in 1400+ ft). Thankfully the trail wasn't technical, but the downhills pounded the hell out of my quads and I'm a bit sore. Got a taste of what your trails are like though.

Very cool! Do you remember the names of the trails, or where you parked? The headlands are on the south side of Mt. Tam and I do most of my running on the north side, but I do like to get down there when I can (it's only a 20-30 minute drive, depending on the trail head). Some of the most beautiful in the area, for sure. That's where the North Face Endurance Challenge 50M is, so I'll probably try to get there more this summer than usual to get in some training on the trails before toeing the line in December.

Next time you're in Sac you should head the other way and get up on the trails around the American River. I'd bet a little time on the Western States trail would inspire you!

I don't remember where we parked, but it was right next to the beginning of the run (aka 800+ gain in 1.5 miles) and there was a little area where people were riding horses. I know there were 2-3 trails that intersected at that point and we came back on the Miwok trail. (and had to go up about 600 ft before descending down for the last few miles). That's about all I remember (and running through/on a beach around halfway when we popped out by the shore). It was a scenic run, but my quads are still feeling it.

 

[FUBAR]

Anyone watch the Diane Van Deren story on HBO Real Sports? We caught it in the hotel room last week..... I found it hugely inspirational. Really makes me want to run an ultra.

This isn't the story we saw, but still fascinating

it's awesome to see people go through hardship and come out stronger.

Somewhat related, my sister was diagnosed with breast cancer last week. She's more motivated than ever to compete in half-marathons and other races. So far they're appearing to handle things well. Stories like Diane's are inspirational to all of us.

 

[FUBAR]

Brick today - 23.5M bike, just trying to get in the groove outside right now.

Then ran 3.25M trail at PE7 just to get a feel for the run after bike. First mile was 7:27, 2nd was slower but an average on 7:48 isn't bad for coming off the bike.

I need to figure out what I want to do here... my A marathon is in less than a month and my HIM is a month after that. I haven't rode more than 30M yet but am cautious about ramping up cycling while heading into run taper... The HIM is just a warm-up race 2 months before the full, but I would like to do well.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Duck- Hey, I just realized I was probably pretty close to/in your neck of the woods yesterday. My buddy that I was staying with in Sacramento decided that since he took Monday to hang out with me he wanted to show me some of the sights around Northern California so we drove about 2 hours to the Marin Headland Trails to do our morning run. He found a 10-mile loop that had a 800-ft elevation gain the first 1.5 miles or so (which we subsequently came down from over the next 3-4 miles) and another 600-ft gain late in the run when we made our way back to our starting spot from a different trail. (so from those 2 sections alone I got in 1400+ ft). Thankfully the trail wasn't technical, but the downhills pounded the hell out of my quads and I'm a bit sore. Got a taste of what your trails are like though.

Very cool! Do you remember the names of the trails, or where you parked? The headlands are on the south side of Mt. Tam and I do most of my running on the north side, but I do like to get down there when I can (it's only a 20-30 minute drive, depending on the trail head). Some of the most beautiful in the area, for sure. That's where the North Face Endurance Challenge 50M is, so I'll probably try to get there more this summer than usual to get in some training on the trails before toeing the line in December.

Next time you're in Sac you should head the other way and get up on the trails around the American River. I'd bet a little time on the Western States trail would inspire you!

I don't remember where we parked, but it was right next to the beginning of the run (aka 800+ gain in 1.5 miles) and there was a little area where people were riding horses. I know there were 2-3 trails that intersected at that point and we came back on the Miwok trail. (and had to go up about 600 ft before descending down for the last few miles). That's about all I remember (and running through/on a beach around halfway when we popped out by the shore). It was a scenic run, but my quads are still feeling it.

Ahh, so you parked at Tennessee Valley (which is in Mill Valley), probably ran up Old Springs to Wolf Ridge, dropped down into Rodeo Beach via Coastal, and then climbed back up Miwok.

Or so I would guess, anyway!

The last time I went out to Tennessee Valley it was an 80 degree day here, and I got out there and it was about 50 and blowing fog with 30 mph gusts. I drove back to another trail head. It's a nice thing about the Bay Area for most of the year - if you don't like the weather, just drive 10 minutes and it'll be different.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Heard today that over 70k applied for the Chicago Marathon for about 45k spots. Crossing my fingers, broskis.

Woah. I didn't realize that Chicago moved to a lottery. Did that happen just in the past couple of years?

I didn't run it last year but I think the site crashed during the initial registration days and they ended up having a lottery because of technical issues. This year they were wise enough to have a lottery system in place from the beginning. Demand has really grown over the years. IIRC registration was open for over a month in 2008 -- the first year I ran it.

 

[SteveC702]

Duck- Hey, I just realized I was probably pretty close to/in your neck of the woods yesterday. My buddy that I was staying with in Sacramento decided that since he took Monday to hang out with me he wanted to show me some of the sights around Northern California so we drove about 2 hours to the Marin Headland Trails to do our morning run. He found a 10-mile loop that had a 800-ft elevation gain the first 1.5 miles or so (which we subsequently came down from over the next 3-4 miles) and another 600-ft gain late in the run when we made our way back to our starting spot from a different trail. (so from those 2 sections alone I got in 1400+ ft). Thankfully the trail wasn't technical, but the downhills pounded the hell out of my quads and I'm a bit sore. Got a taste of what your trails are like though.

Very cool! Do you remember the names of the trails, or where you parked? The headlands are on the south side of Mt. Tam and I do most of my running on the north side, but I do like to get down there when I can (it's only a 20-30 minute drive, depending on the trail head). Some of the most beautiful in the area, for sure. That's where the North Face Endurance Challenge 50M is, so I'll probably try to get there more this summer than usual to get in some training on the trails before toeing the line in December.

Next time you're in Sac you should head the other way and get up on the trails around the American River. I'd bet a little time on the Western States trail would inspire you!

I don't remember where we parked, but it was right next to the beginning of the run (aka 800+ gain in 1.5 miles) and there was a little area where people were riding horses. I know there were 2-3 trails that intersected at that point and we came back on the Miwok trail. (and had to go up about 600 ft before descending down for the last few miles). That's about all I remember (and running through/on a beach around halfway when we popped out by the shore). It was a scenic run, but my quads are still feeling it.

Ahh, so you parked at Tennessee Valley (which is in Mill Valley), probably ran up Old Springs to Wolf Ridge, dropped down into Rodeo Beach via Coastal, and then climbed back up Miwok.

Or so I would guess, anyway!

The last time I went out to Tennessee Valley it was an 80 degree day here, and I got out there and it was about 50 and blowing fog with 30 mph gusts. I drove back to another trail head. It's a nice thing about the Bay Area for most of the year - if you don't like the weather, just drive 10 minutes and it'll be different.

Actually that sounds about right as Tennessee Valley rings a bell as does Rodeo Beach. It was a bit of a brutal run for me, as I won't be facing those kind of hills even in Boston. I was actually a little thankful they were on trails and not roads, can't even picture how my legs would feel right now if that wasn't the case. (although running 20 miles the day before with 10 of it at pretty much all-out didn't set my legs up to handle the pounding either)

Speaking of the American River trail, my friend and I did go walk around old Sacramento after the race on Sunday and he pointed out that part of it ran by where we were. At least in the section he pointed out, there's a parallel bike path/trail to the dirt trail. The view was pretty nice and believe it or not I would consider the AR 50-mile ultra if it was on the bike path and not the dirt path. (that's probably blasphemy to you trail/ultra guys )

 

[SFBayDuck]

Speaking of the American River trail, my friend and I did go walk around old Sacramento after the race on Sunday and he pointed out that part of it ran by where we were. At least in the section he pointed out, there's a parallel bike path/trail to the dirt trail. The view was pretty nice and believe it or not I would consider the AR 50-mile ultra if it was on the bike path and not the dirt path. (that's probably blasphemy to you trail/ultra guys )

When I ran AR50 last year the first 26 miles was on that bike path before hitting rolling singletrack through mile 47, and then a 3 mile climb on fire road at the end. But this year they changed the course to reduce the amount of bike path and increase proportion of trails, so you probably missed your chance.

And, yes, I was miserable for that first 26 miles last year

 

[Sand]

I need to figure out what I want to do here... my A marathon is in less than a month and my HIM is a month after that. I haven't rode more than 30M yet but am cautious about ramping up cycling while heading into run taper... The HIM is just a warm-up race 2 months before the full, but I would like to do well.

I can't see how a fairly easy 50 miler or so will hurt anything.

 

[FUBAR]

I need to figure out what I want to do here... my A marathon is in less than a month and my HIM is a month after that. I haven't rode more than 30M yet but am cautious about ramping up cycling while heading into run taper... The HIM is just a warm-up race 2 months before the full, but I would like to do well.

I can't see how a fairly easy 50 miler or so will hurt anything.

Yeah, I'll probably do one next week. Might even run a mile afterwards.

 

[ChiefD]

Well, as you all say, the hay is in the barn. Ran a short run tonight, and now 2 days of rest before Saturday. Diet has been good the whole 12 week ramp up, and really good this week.

Starting to feel excited, which means my mind is getting right. The last couple of weeks without the Heart monitor has done me good: I've run some faster runs and feel like my goal of 1:45 is attainable. I've decided to wear it Saturday: the data will be critical as I decide to keep proceeding with running half's or if I want to try and do a full in the next 12 months.

Anyway, thanks to all for all the great advice and support. This thread is priceless for guys like me. I'll have a race report Saturday, good or bad. I've already decided I'm going to go out and push myself on this one and lay it out there. The two I have done I felt that there was a lot of time left on the course. I guess I will find out if that's true or if I'm just going to have to be happy running in the 1:52 range.

 

[Sand]

I need to figure out what I want to do here... my A marathon is in less than a month and my HIM is a month after that. I haven't rode more than 30M yet but am cautious about ramping up cycling while heading into run taper... The HIM is just a warm-up race 2 months before the full, but I would like to do well.

I can't see how a fairly easy 50 miler or so will hurt anything.

Yeah, I'll probably do one next week. Might even run a mile afterwards.

Yeah, I wouldn't do much in the way of bricks at this point. All you need is some weird injury to crop up. Speaking of injuries, after a month of being hurt and not being able to swim I was able to get in 1500 tonight. Wasn't pretty, but I got wet! Felt good to get back to some normalcy.

I'm probably riding tomorrow morning, about 40ish with 4000' of climbing or so - I'm at vacation maximum and need to take something. That'll do for a taper for my race Saturday.

 

[Sand]

Anyway, thanks to all for all the great advice and support. This thread is priceless for guys like me. I'll have a race report Saturday, good or bad. I've already decided I'm going to go out and push myself on this one and lay it out there. The two I have done I felt that there was a lot of time left on the course. I guess I will find out if that's true or if I'm just going to have to be happy running in the 1:52 range.

Just remember to aim for throwing up on the finish line (i.e. leave it all out there).

 

[beer 302]

Well, as you all say, the hay is in the barn. Ran a short run tonight, and now 2 days of rest before Saturday. Diet has been good the whole 12 week ramp up, and really good this week.

Starting to feel excited, which means my mind is getting right. The last couple of weeks without the Heart monitor has done me good: I've run some faster runs and feel like my goal of 1:45 is attainable. I've decided to wear it Saturday: the data will be critical as I decide to keep proceeding with running half's or if I want to try and do a full in the next 12 months.

Anyway, thanks to all for all the great advice and support. This thread is priceless for guys like me. I'll have a race report Saturday, good or bad. I've already decided I'm going to go out and push myself on this one and lay it out there. The two I have done I felt that there was a lot of time left on the course. I guess I will find out if that's true or if I'm just going to have to be happy running in the 1:52 range.

You'll do well Chief, you've put in a solid training schedule, just don't over think the race now. Run like you've trained not how you think you're supposed to run based on a theory or something you've read. Oh and enjoy it sometimes we forget we do this because we chose to, there should be some fun associated with it, right?

 

[FUBAR]

I need to figure out what I want to do here... my A marathon is in less than a month and my HIM is a month after that. I haven't rode more than 30M yet but am cautious about ramping up cycling while heading into run taper... The HIM is just a warm-up race 2 months before the full, but I would like to do well.

I can't see how a fairly easy 50 miler or so will hurt anything.

Yeah, I'll probably do one next week. Might even run a mile afterwards.

Yeah, I wouldn't do much in the way of bricks at this point. All you need is some weird injury to crop up. Speaking of injuries, after a month of being hurt and not being able to swim I was able to get in 1500 tonight. Wasn't pretty, but I got wet! Felt good to get back to some normalcy.

I'm probably riding tomorrow morning, about 40ish with 4000' of climbing or so - I'm at vacation maximum and need to take something. That'll do for a taper for my race Saturday.

Why? Is there really an increased risk of injury with a brick?

Glad to see you're back in the pool. It's amazing how awkward the first few days back can be.

 

[ghostguy123]

Good lord. I noticed this thread a while ago but hadn't checked it out yet (and VERY new to the FFA section). 959 f'ing pages??? I am not a serious runner, but also not a serious reader. I would rather run a marathon than read 959 pages of this

All that said, maybe I will, just at a pace of a hundred pages per week. Don't want runner's advice overload.

After about a decade straight of not much exercise, at least not nearly what I was doing before that, I took up running (cough...jogging...cough) two summers ago. I was always an athlete and played a lotta sports, varsity letters in basektball, baseball, golf, and even one year of cross country my senior year when I didn't wanna golf that year.

But damn, I could never run distance. I could run up and down the basketball court all day, but that first week of cross county practice I couldnt even jog slowly for 20 minutes straight.

So I start this back up a couple summers ago. Not real serious. Pretty much since then I have averaged anywhere between 10-15 miles per week. A little more during may-september during 5k season in northern Ohio.

My first 5k was total crap, like 32 minutes. I felt dirty. Not that I was ever that good, my best time in that one year of cross was 19:30 or so, but 32 was wow.........bad. My best last year was 26 flat. Goal this year of 25 flat. Secondary goal of shedding some weight. 220 is...........too much. Granted I actually do have muscle, but still, too much beer and wings for a decade will get ya. Good thing I have a fast metabolism or I would be 320.

For the runners out there, looking for some advice for training. I get kind of bored, and then unmotivated, when I just get on the treadmill or even on the road and just jog. It's cool most of the time, but sometimes I just dread the jog.

I DO like to mix in some other kinds of things. What other things could I do that would actually improve my 5k times? ANy particular strength exercises?? Shorter runs at a faster pace?? Repeat 400s?? 800s?? Miles??

When I was in Cross we did 5 mile slower pace jogs (which I would F'ing hate to do more than once in a blue moon now), some days of repeat 800s, sometimes repeat miles. We didn't do too many 5ks in practice.

So what ya got?? Throw some gym exercises at me, and maybe some of the other stuff I was talkin about. Get me motivated. ####, maybe I can get to 24 this year.

Just did my first 5k this year a few days ago, ran a 28, but I REALLY took it slow. It was C-O-L-D out, and it was the first time i ran outside this year. I had a decent amount left at the end. It was also a "pump and run", you bench press at the beginning to try and earn points for a head start, anywhere from 1-10 minutes. Amazingly without lifting for quite some time I threw up 195 ten times. I was friggin shocked.

My next one is maybe two weeks from now. Would like to get under 27 for that one, which shouldn't be too big of a problem.

Get me motivated. Tell me what to do

 

[FUBAR]

Get me motivated. Tell me what to do

watch out for biker guys.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Sorry to hear about your sister, FUBAR. I hope she and her family come out of this well.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Chief -- Good luck this weekend. I think the experience of everybody in this thread is that when they say "I'm thinking about maybe considering the possibility of doing a full" there is a 99% likelihood that they'll do a full within 12 months.