Ran a 10k - Official Thread (22 Viewers)

[2Young2BBald]

This would suck:

Ironman Maryland1 hr ·
Dear IRONMAN Maryland Athletes,

Due to projected flooding from abnormally high tides, heavy rain, wind, and the expected impact of Hurricane Joaquin, IRONMAN Maryland will not take place this Saturday.

Given the severity of the expected weather conditions, which may – depending on the path of Joaquin – require the evacuation of certain coastal regions on the Delmarva Peninsula, we cannot guarantee that public safety officials will be able to provide the support necessary for the safe execution of our event.

The safety of our athletes, volunteers, spectators, and staff is our number one priority.

We are asking all athletes to not travel to Maryland since forecasts expect heavy weather impact in the area. We are tentatively planning and have tentative approval to have the race take place on Saturday, October 17; however, no final decision can be made until the effects of the storm are fully assessed.

We appreciate your understanding and will be in further communication with you by 6pm EST next Tuesday.

To me, the fact that a potential contingency date would make this easier to take. I typically view the Ironman brand just slightly about Red From (Warrior Dash and other events of this type) that appear to be more about raking in cash than anything else. I'm sure the sign up waiver had plenty of verbiage about no refunds due to acts of God or other factors leading to the cancellation of the event. I hope for the sake of those that were signed up it goes forward on the 17th. Fingers crossed, this looks more like a very wet Noreaster and less like Hurricane Sandy.

 

[Hang 10]

This would suck:

Ironman Maryland1 hr ·
Dear IRONMAN Maryland Athletes,

Due to projected flooding from abnormally high tides, heavy rain, wind, and the expected impact of Hurricane Joaquin, IRONMAN Maryland will not take place this Saturday.

Given the severity of the expected weather conditions, which may – depending on the path of Joaquin – require the evacuation of certain coastal regions on the Delmarva Peninsula, we cannot guarantee that public safety officials will be able to provide the support necessary for the safe execution of our event.

The safety of our athletes, volunteers, spectators, and staff is our number one priority.

We are asking all athletes to not travel to Maryland since forecasts expect heavy weather impact in the area. We are tentatively planning and have tentative approval to have the race take place on Saturday, October 17; however, no final decision can be made until the effects of the storm are fully assessed.

We appreciate your understanding and will be in further communication with you by 6pm EST next Tuesday.

I'm running a half on the coast Sunday. Got an email that the race is still on but the forecast is for rain and 30 mph winds. I can't seem to catch a break weather wise lately.

 

[Gator Shawn]

As soon as I get home Saturday, I'm starting to look for a 10K in the Spring. Already signed up for another 5K on Halloween through a graveyard

I passed on the Donut 5K. Have you seen these? For each donut you eat at the donut stations along the way, you get 30 seconds off your time up to a max of 12. WTF?

Progression Plans

5K

10K

Sprint Tri

HM

Olympic Tri

M

Half-Iron

 

[Sand]

Is there some super secret website where I can find good trail runs in my area? I can't find anything but the nearest state park that has a trail run. It's solid, but I like some variety.

Every high school in the area has a cross-country team. Where do these dudes run?

You can ask me. Where are you in Michigan? Also, grab the AllTrails App on your phone.

ETA, AllTrails has a function where it will show the closest trails to your current location and give you trail rating and info. You can even hit up a forum on any specific trail if you have questions.

Plymouth - Mayberry is close but I don't see much else.

You are in a PERFECT location, less than an hour from incredible trails.

Pinckney Rec offers up the best trails around with multiple options to start and finish at: http://www.michigandnr.com/parksandtrails/Details.aspx?type=SPRK&id=484

In order of priority I would start at Silver Lake (better bath and showers), Half Moon (porta-johns, no showers, but a nice beach) and Bruin Lake (full campground and more remote trails). Any of these will have trail maps and signage to keep you on track. The granddaddy of the trails here is Potto (check it out on all trails).

Waterloo Rec is a bit further away and their trails are a bit more spread out and remote: http://www.michigandnr.com/parksandtrails/Details.aspx?type=SPRK&id=506

Island Lake Rec would be my first choice for you based on closer to home and trails: http://www.michigandnr.com/parksandtrails/Details.aspx?type=SPRK&id=462 I park at Springmill pond and access the trail just above the pond. The blue mountain bike trail is about 9 miles long and very well marked. Springmill has a full bath, showers and a great beach.

Kensington MetroPark is just across 96 from Island Lake Rec and can be accessed from both via an underpass by Kent Lake. Smaller series of MTB and hiking trails. http://www.metroparks.com/kensington-metropark

Stony Creek MetroPark is my favorite. The MTB trail has a 5+ mile easier outer loop with intersecting blue and black trails where you can run about 12 miles without retracing your steps. http://www.metroparks.com/stony-creek-metropark

Hudson Mills MetroPark I have only been there for XC meets (Gabriel Richard Invite) and have not run the other trails. Very nice park.

If you want to travel a bit from home and possibly camp, I have camped and ran the trails at the parks below:

Sleep Hollow State Park GREAT trail race here in august. http://www.michigandnr.com/parksandtrails/Details.aspx?type=SPRK&id=495

Yankee Springs State Park Kick ### park with awesome trails in a campground on a killer lake. AND, a casino right down the road. http://www.michigandnr.com/parksandtrails/Details.aspx?type=SPRK&id=511

Michigan is also FLUSH with opportunities to trail race http://www.runningintheusa.com/Race/List.aspx?Rank=Upcoming&Special=trail&State=MI&Page=1

Let me know if you need more info. There are probably a dozen other locations I can share.

eta, If you want to come race with me (and have a Bloody Mary after) The Highland Rugged Man is on my annual trail race rotation (Nov 8th Highland Rec): http://www.stayintheshade.org/home.php?layout=355106

Damn, if ever there was a :throws down mic, walks of stage: response this is it. You've given ig a cornucopia of trails to run!

This would suck:

Ironman Maryland1 hr ·
Dear IRONMAN Maryland Athletes,

Due to projected flooding from abnormally high tides, heavy rain, wind, and the expected impact of Hurricane Joaquin, IRONMAN Maryland will not take place this Saturday.

Given the severity of the expected weather conditions, which may – depending on the path of Joaquin – require the evacuation of certain coastal regions on the Delmarva Peninsula, we cannot guarantee that public safety officials will be able to provide the support necessary for the safe execution of our event.

The safety of our athletes, volunteers, spectators, and staff is our number one priority.

We are asking all athletes to not travel to Maryland since forecasts expect heavy weather impact in the area. We are tentatively planning and have tentative approval to have the race take place on Saturday, October 17; however, no final decision can be made until the effects of the storm are fully assessed.

We appreciate your understanding and will be in further communication with you by 6pm EST next Tuesday.

Friend of mine just got his cancellation notice for the MS ride up in Philly. Sucks for east coasters. Funny enough the storm is dragging all the moisture away and this weekend is supposed to be 53/71 both days. Ridiculously nice.

 

[Hang 10]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

 

[Nigel]

This would suck:

Ironman Maryland

1 hr ·

Dear IRONMAN Maryland Athletes,

Due to projected flooding from abnormally high tides, heavy rain, wind, and the expected impact of Hurricane Joaquin, IRONMAN Maryland will not take place this Saturday.

Given the severity of the expected weather conditions, which may depending on the path of Joaquin require the evacuation of certain coastal regions on the Delmarva Peninsula, we cannot guarantee that public safety officials will be able to provide the support necessary for the safe execution of our event.

The safety of our athletes, volunteers, spectators, and staff is our number one priority.

We are asking all athletes to not travel to Maryland since forecasts expect heavy weather impact in the area. We are tentatively planning and have tentative approval to have the race take place on Saturday, October 17; however, no final decision can be made until the effects of the storm are fully assessed.

We appreciate your understanding and will be in further communication with you by 6pm EST next Tuesday.

I'm running a half on the coast Sunday. Got an email that the race is still on but the forecast is for rain and 30 mph winds. I can't seem to catch a break weather wise lately.

Well, if it's gonna be bad it might as well be really bad...might be kind of fun???

 

[Sand]

This would suck:

Ironman Maryland

1 hr ·

Dear IRONMAN Maryland Athletes,

Due to projected flooding from abnormally high tides, heavy rain, wind, and the expected impact of Hurricane Joaquin, IRONMAN Maryland will not take place this Saturday.

Given the severity of the expected weather conditions, which may depending on the path of Joaquin require the evacuation of certain coastal regions on the Delmarva Peninsula, we cannot guarantee that public safety officials will be able to provide the support necessary for the safe execution of our event.

The safety of our athletes, volunteers, spectators, and staff is our number one priority.

We are asking all athletes to not travel to Maryland since forecasts expect heavy weather impact in the area. We are tentatively planning and have tentative approval to have the race take place on Saturday, October 17; however, no final decision can be made until the effects of the storm are fully assessed.

We appreciate your understanding and will be in further communication with you by 6pm EST next Tuesday.

I'm running a half on the coast Sunday. Got an email that the race is still on but the forecast is for rain and 30 mph winds. I can't seem to catch a break weather wise lately.

Well, if it's gonna be bad it might as well be really bad...might be kind of fun???

Kind of like this, right?.

 

[Ned]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

Cmon man. That's not fair. They deserve to be there too.

 

[Hang 10]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

Cmon man. That's not fair. They deserve to be there too.

The problem is that the average finishing times between men 30-50 are basically the same. So basically you just give guys that older 5-15 minutes more that don't need it. Don't even get me started with the women getting 30 more minutes then the men.

 

[Hang 10]

This would suck:

Ironman Maryland

1 hr ·

Dear IRONMAN Maryland Athletes,

Due to projected flooding from abnormally high tides, heavy rain, wind, and the expected impact of Hurricane Joaquin, IRONMAN Maryland will not take place this Saturday.

Given the severity of the expected weather conditions, which may depending on the path of Joaquin require the evacuation of certain coastal regions on the Delmarva Peninsula, we cannot guarantee that public safety officials will be able to provide the support necessary for the safe execution of our event.

The safety of our athletes, volunteers, spectators, and staff is our number one priority.

We are asking all athletes to not travel to Maryland since forecasts expect heavy weather impact in the area. We are tentatively planning and have tentative approval to have the race take place on Saturday, October 17; however, no final decision can be made until the effects of the storm are fully assessed.

We appreciate your understanding and will be in further communication with you by 6pm EST next Tuesday.

I'm running a half on the coast Sunday. Got an email that the race is still on but the forecast is for rain and 30 mph winds. I can't seem to catch a break weather wise lately.

Well, if it's gonna be bad it might as well be really bad...might be kind of fun???

Kind of like this, right?.

A gale force tailwind would be nice.

 

[tri-man 47]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

Cmon man. That's not fair. They deserve to be there too.

The problem is that the average finishing times between men 30-50 are basically the same. So basically you just give guys that older 5-15 minutes more that don't need it. Don't even get me started with the women getting 30 more minutes then the men.

Having run my way through the brackets over the past 30 years, I've seen that the competitiveness doesn't drop much from 30 to 50. Gruecd, you've moved toward the top end of that range - your thoughts? And Juxt, you've just reached a new bracket in the middle, so you've probably been watching the 40+ times as well. But changes did start to happen after that. 50-54 ...55-59 ...60-64 - they all display noticeable drops in times and depth of the field. It always seemed odd - for years, now, I've looked at the older bracket and wondered "where have they all gone?" Now the women's times ...that's another story!

 

[Hang 10]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

Cmon man. That's not fair. They deserve to be there too.

The problem is that the average finishing times between men 30-50 are basically the same. So basically you just give guys that older 5-15 minutes more that don't need it. Don't even get me started with the women getting 30 more minutes then the men.

Having run my way through the brackets over the past 30 years, I've seen that the competitiveness doesn't drop much from 30 to 50. Gruecd, you've moved toward the top end of that range - your thoughts? And Juxt, you've just reached a new bracket in the middle, so you've probably been watching the 40+ times as well. But changes did start to happen after that. 50-54 ...55-59 ...60-64 - they all display noticeable drops in times and depth of the field. It always seemed odd - for years, now, I've looked at the older bracket and wondered "where have they all gone?" Now the women's times ...that's another story!

Exactly. I don't say it as an insult that too many guys in their 40's get in but as a compliment. They don't need the advantage. We've got plenty of proof in this thread. And I don't want them to make my age group easier to get into. Main reason I want to qualify is because it is a challenge.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

Cmon man. That's not fair. They deserve to be there too.

The problem is that the average finishing times between men 30-50 are basically the same. So basically you just give guys that older 5-15 minutes more that don't need it. Don't even get me started with the women getting 30 more minutes then the men.

Having run my way through the brackets over the past 30 years, I've seen that the competitiveness doesn't drop much from 30 to 50. Gruecd, you've moved toward the top end of that range - your thoughts? And Juxt, you've just reached a new bracket in the middle, so you've probably been watching the 40+ times as well. But changes did start to happen after that. 50-54 ...55-59 ...60-64 - they all display noticeable drops in times and depth of the field. It always seemed odd - for years, now, I've looked at the older bracket and wondered "where have they all gone?" Now the women's times ...that's another story!

I think this chart (Chicago Marathon 2010) shows what I've noticed. You see a slow drop off through 40-44, at 45 it widens a bit then it's rather dramatic from there onward. Boston's bump at age 45 from 3:15 to 3:25 seems excessively extreme to me and I understand Hang 10's point. But, of course, the BAA has the right to do what they want and I'm sure they have their reasons.

Somewhat related, I strongly believe Masters awards at 40 are ridiculous. If a race wants to have them, they should start at 50.

 

[Sand]

I think this chart (Chicago Marathon 2010) shows what I've noticed. You see a slow drop off through 40-44, at 45 it widens a bit then it's rather dramatic from there onward. Boston's bump at age 45 from 3:15 to 3:25 seems excessively extreme to me and I understand Hang 10's point. But, of course, the BAA has the right to do what they want and I'm sure they have their reasons.
Somewhat related, I strongly believe Masters awards at 40 are ridiculous. If a race wants to have them, they should start at 50.

Back off, bub.

 

[tri-man 47]

Great point about the Masters awards at age 40.

 

[Juxtatarot]

It always seemed odd - for years, now, I've looked at the older bracket and wondered "where have they all gone?"

What do you think the answer is? They physically/medically can't? Are they frustrated because they can't run like they used to and quit? Just move on to different hobbies?

 

[Ned]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

Cmon man. That's not fair. They deserve to be there too.

The problem is that the average finishing times between men 30-50 are basically the same. So basically you just give guys that older 5-15 minutes more that don't need it. Don't even get me started with the women getting 30 more minutes then the men.

The average finish time for the 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50 groups goes like this:

M30 - 3:23

M35 - 3:24 (+1)

M40 - 3:29 (+5)

M45 - 3:34 (+5)

M50 - 3:42 (+8)

I think their time intervals of +5 for every 5 years are just fine. If anything, our age group has the biggest advantage since the average finish time at Boston is only 1 minute slower, but we're getting 5 more minutes to qualify. It's also pretty telling that their analysis bundles the first group as 18-39 and then does the 5 year increments instead of aligning it with the qualifiers (35-39 should've been separate).

I'd like to see this done for just the finishers that qualified. I think the charity runners may be skewing things a little bit.

 

[Hang 10]

Cutoff was 2:28. Sorry, Ned.

Qualifying standards will stay the same for 2017 (too late to change them now), but I fully expect that they'll take off another 5 minutes across the board for 2018 (just like they did back in 2011 for the 2013 race).

I wonder how many entries from each age/gender group. It seems like there's gotta be some age groups where they get more entries and maybe they could apply stricter standards there. IDK...just seems us 30 somethings dudes get royally ####ed.

ETA: Good data here: http://running.competitor.com/2015/04/photos/boston-marathon-2015-statistical-analysis_127026

Too many old ####ers.

Cmon man. That's not fair. They deserve to be there too.

The problem is that the average finishing times between men 30-50 are basically the same. So basically you just give guys that older 5-15 minutes more that don't need it. Don't even get me started with the women getting 30 more minutes then the men.

The average finish time for the 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50 groups goes like this:

M30 - 3:23

M35 - 3:24 (+1)

M40 - 3:29 (+5)

M45 - 3:34 (+5)

M50 - 3:42 (+8)

I think their time intervals of +5 for every 5 years are just fine. If anything, our age group has the biggest advantage since the average finish time at Boston is only 1 minute slower, but we're getting 5 more minutes to qualify. It's also pretty telling that their analysis bundles the first group as 18-39 and then does the 5 year increments instead of aligning it with the qualifiers (35-39 should've been separate).

I'd like to see this done for just the finishers that qualified. I think the charity runners may be skewing things a little bit.

I was basing my numbers off average times of all marathons. Not just Boston. http://www.dcrainmaker.com/images/2010/10/5-reasons-why-the-boston-marathon-sold-out-in-8-hours-5.png

Here's the full article here: http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2010/10/5-reasons-why-boston-marathon-sold-out.html

Lots of good info

 

[igbomb]

So no way I could get fast enough in my 30s to get to BQ (I just turned 38). So that means I need to get to 3:15 to BQ over the next seven years. That pace is faster than my 5K pace.

 

[Hang 10]

So no way I could get fast enough in my 30s to get to BQ (I just turned 38). So that means I need to get to 3:15 to BQ over the next seven years. That pace is faster than my 5K pace.

No, you need to run a 3:12:32. The qualifying standard won't actually get you in the race. That's why we're having this little debate.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Boston average results are going to be skewed due to the effects of the different qualifying standards. Looking at averages of other marathons (here's one for New York) is going to be more representative of the overall runner population. I'm really interested in reviewing more recent macro data but can't seem to find it.

 

[Ned]

Boston average results are going to be skewed due to the effects of the different qualifying standards. Looking at averages of other marathons (here's one for New York) is going to be more representative of the overall runner population. I'm really interested in reviewing more recent macro data but can't seem to find it.

Since we're talking about qualifying and running Boston, I think looking at non-Bostoner's skews it.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Boston average results are going to be skewed due to the effects of the different qualifying standards. Looking at averages of other marathons (here's one for New York) is going to be more representative of the overall runner population. I'm really interested in reviewing more recent macro data but can't seem to find it.

Since we're talking about qualifying and running Boston, I think looking at non-Bostoner's skews it.

OK, I'm just referring to qualifying. My hypothesis is it is easier for a man in his 40s to qualify than a man is his 30s even after considering the drop off in expected performance due to aging. Possible evidence to support this is looking at the average times of all marathons in the various age groups and comparing that drop off to the drop off in Boston qualifying standards. There are problems with only looking at that (for instance, a Boston qualifier isn't an average runner) but I think it gives us an idea. The problem with looking at Boston results is there are slower older runners that would never have qualified if they were a bit younger. That hurts the average in the age group.

 

[ChiefD]

It always seemed odd - for years, now, I've looked at the older bracket and wondered "where have they all gone?"

What do you think the answer is? They physically/medically can't? Are they frustrated because they can't run like they used to and quit? Just move on to different hobbies? Finally figured out that training for a marathon sucks balls?

Fixed for accuracy.

 

[tri-man 47]

It always seemed odd - for years, now, I've looked at the older bracket and wondered "where have they all gone?"

What do you think the answer is? They physically/medically can't? Are they frustrated because they can't run like they used to and quit? Just move on to different hobbies?

I'd say it's a combination of factors. First is physical - the loss of muscle mass and ability (age-related sarcopenia is the term). I've read that the loss is 1-2% per year after age 50, or even 3% per year after age 60. Staying fit and strong takes a lot more work, then. I'll attest to that. Also from a physical perspective is the response to injuries. After a life of running successes and memories, and as the injuries occur with more frequency, I can see how it's easy enough to just "call it a day" and move on from competitive running. That could be an "I've had a good running life" mentality (glass-half full) or just frustration (glass-half empty). Healing from injuries takes longer, too. And while not necessarily due to running, bodies break down - backs, knees, hips, etc. There's also the mental aspect of staying "hungry" to achieve goals and new accomplishments. As things get checked off the bucket list, do they get replaced? As you mention, they could just move on to other things ...or their friends/spouses do, so they're left alone. All these issues magnify as the years proceed, and those that drift away do not get replaced. So the numbers drop!

 

[gruecd]

Having run my way through the brackets over the past 30 years, I've seen that the competitiveness doesn't drop much from 30 to 50. Gruecd, you've moved toward the top end of that range - your thoughts?

The top end of the range? Is that some kind of joke? I'm only 38...I'm not even to the middle of the range yet!!

Seriously, though, I'd definitely agree that my peers are no less competitive now than they were 8 years ago.

 

[gruecd]

Trying to get back into the swing of things. Did 5 on Tuesday night (nice and cool), averaged 7:31 but dropped it down to 6:45 for the last mile. Back at it last night with a solid 10-miler at 8:05/mile. Getting a massage today, then I'll do another easy 5-6 tomorrow and hopefully 10-12 on Saturday or Sunday.

 

[gruecd]

So no way I could get fast enough in my 30s to get to BQ (I just turned 38). So that means I need to get to 3:15 to BQ over the next seven years. That pace is faster than my 5K pace.

No, you need to run a 3:12:32. The qualifying standard won't actually get you in the race. That's why we're having this little debate.

Not only that, but like I said earlier, they're likely to lop another 5 minutes off the standards, which means that you'll actually need to run 3:07:32. Sorry.

 

[Hang 10]

They just cancelled my half.

 

[MAC_32]

Thanks fellas for confirming my lack of interest in beginning chasing a BQ for at least another half decade (I'm 32). I can't imagine I'll want to marathon train for more than 2-3 years, so maybe beginning the process at age 37-38 with the goal of achieving at age 40 is the right way to go.

 

[MAC_32]

They just cancelled my half.

Oof, that blows. Any chance they reschedule to next weekend? and would that screw up your training regimen for the rest of Fall?

 

[Hang 10]

They just cancelled my half.

Oof, that blows. Any chance they reschedule to next weekend? and would that screw up your training regimen for the rest of Fall?

They said they are considering rescheduling. If it's soon, I could probably make it work. I've still got some time before my marathon.

 

[MAC_32]

They just cancelled my half.

Oof, that blows. Any chance they reschedule to next weekend? and would that screw up your training regimen for the rest of Fall?

They said they are considering rescheduling. If it's soon, I could probably make it work. I've still got some time before my marathon.

Must be a November marathon then? Still sucks that you can't do this based on the marathon taper week you're currently doing, but...so it goes, right? ####### mother nature.

 

[ChiefD]

They just cancelled my half.

Dang, that sucks. Sorry to hear.

 

[Hang 10]

They just cancelled my half.

Oof, that blows. Any chance they reschedule to next weekend? and would that screw up your training regimen for the rest of Fall?

They said they are considering rescheduling. If it's soon, I could probably make it work. I've still got some time before my marathon.

Must be a November marathon then? Still sucks that you can't do this based on the marathon taper week you're currently doing, but...so it goes, right? ####### mother nature.

Yeah, mid-November. I guess the good news is that I know soon enough that I can run more the rest of the week if I want to. Gonna be wet though...rain in the forecasted the next 5 days. I'm going to do a muddy trail run at lunch today.

 

[tri-man 47]

Having run my way through the brackets over the past 30 years, I've seen that the competitiveness doesn't drop much from 30 to 50. Gruecd, you've moved toward the top end of that range - your thoughts?

The top end of the range? Is that some kind of joke? I'm only 38...I'm not even to the middle of the range yet!!

Seriously, though, I'd definitely agree that my peers are no less competitive now than they were 8 years ago.

Oops ..thought you'd crossed the 40 plateau a while back. I guess it was 'just' 35. Sorry!

And Hang 10, bummer about the cancellation.

 

[worrierking]

Sorry to hear about Boston, Ned. Major bummer.

To qualify I need to keep my speed until I am 70 and hope the standards don't get too much faster! I also need to keep my arthritic hip from needing replacement, so I am screwed.

Good luck to everybody on the East Coast. Sorry about the races being cancelled.

 

[FUBAR]

need an opinion.

I have a group of lawyers in their late 20s - early 30s who I lead, and I'm organizing a run for Thursday's session.

The first quarter mile of the nearby hill is ~135' in elevation. I did it 5 times this morning after we did weights (after 4 sets of squats it wasn't easy).

My plan is to make us do the hill 10 times which will be 5 miles and 1350' (equal to the World Trade Center).

Is that too much for moderate runners? This crew averages 8:30 minute miles when pushing on flat land.

Ended up modifying it slightly.

4 times up, then saw people were dragging a bit. So we did 6 more. But those 6 were 3 minutes up, 2:30, 2, 1:30, 1 and 30 seconds. I'm going to be the unpopular boss.

On the positive side, our elementary school is conducting a fundraiser running event today. The 2nd grade class went early this morning and my 7yo lapped the field. They were supposed to complete 35 laps (I don't know how long the lap was, maybe 1/10 of a mile?) in 55 minutes. Ten out of the 120 (or so) completed 35, my 7yo kept going and did 48 laps. The little man is an energizer bunny.

 

[ChiefD]

Sweet job Mini-Fubar!

 

[Juxtatarot]

Good luck to all the racers this weekend! I'm sure I'm missing someone (but, hey!, put it on the calendar!) but we've got Ivan (bulldoze if you have to!), Mac's racing a half, Brony (stay healthy) and last but not least GatorShawn on his first 5K!

 

[shady inc]

This would suck:

Ironman Maryland1 hr ·
Dear IRONMAN Maryland Athletes,

Due to projected flooding from abnormally high tides, heavy rain, wind, and the expected impact of Hurricane Joaquin, IRONMAN Maryland will not take place this Saturday.

Given the severity of the expected weather conditions, which may – depending on the path of Joaquin – require the evacuation of certain coastal regions on the Delmarva Peninsula, we cannot guarantee that public safety officials will be able to provide the support necessary for the safe execution of our event.

The safety of our athletes, volunteers, spectators, and staff is our number one priority.

We are asking all athletes to not travel to Maryland since forecasts expect heavy weather impact in the area. We are tentatively planning and have tentative approval to have the race take place on Saturday, October 17; however, no final decision can be made until the effects of the storm are fully assessed.

We appreciate your understanding and will be in further communication with you by 6pm EST next Tuesday.

The first half ironman I ever tried to do was cancelled due to weather. i was pretty devastated. can't imagine training for a full IM to have it cancelled :(

 

[Nigel]

Good luck racers!!!

 

[2Young2BBald]

Garmin or Strava guys, I am in conference call hell for the next (4) hours as an inactive participant. For kicks, does anyone know a way to plot multiple activities on a single map? I've used the same naming conventions for all of my races since 2009. I'd love to be able to plot the 18 legs, over 6 years of the Ultra relay I did this past weekend to see just how all over the map I've been.

Good luck to this weekend's racers, including the XC kids!!

ETA, I may have figured out how with Fit Tools. I am going to give it a shot and report back.

 

[ChiefD]

Good luck to all the racers this weekend! I'm sure I'm missing someone (but, hey!, put it on the calendar!) but we've got Ivan (bulldoze if you have to!), Mac's racing a half, Brony (stay healthy) and last but not least GatorShawn on his first 5K!

Absolutely. Good luck all! Can't wait to read the race reports.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Good luck to all the racers this weekend! I'm sure I'm missing someone (but, hey!, put it on the calendar!) but we've got Ivan (bulldoze if you have to!), Mac's racing a half, Brony (stay healthy) and last but not least GatorShawn on his first 5K!

Absolutely. Good luck all! Can't wait to read the race reports.

Ditto. Go get some!

 

[tri-man 47]

Do well, weekend racers!!! Ivan, I hope your marathon ends up being incident free ...but let the possibility of late-race theatrics be a motivation for you in the final miles.

 

[MAC_32]

I know some meds are not good to take before a race, but if I feel I need to take something for this allergy bug/cold whatever it is what would you who know the impacts of various drugs take?

I usually go with the apply some dirt on it method, but if this race is successful it may be it for my distance racing this year so I want to do everything I can to give me the best shot at making that happen.

 

[gruecd]

Do well, weekend racers!!! Ivan, I hope your marathon ends up being incident free ...but let the possibility of late-race theatrics be a motivation for you in the final miles.

The mayor met with the BLM leader yesterday. Apparently they'll still be there protesting at a designated area near the finish line, but they've agreed not to disrupt the race.

 

[Sand]

Do well, weekend racers!!! Ivan, I hope your marathon ends up being incident free ...but let the possibility of late-race theatrics be a motivation for you in the final miles.

The mayor met with the BLM leader yesterday. Apparently they'll still be there protesting at a designated area near the finish line, but they've agreed not to disrupt the race.

I was looking forward to mayhem and lots of leaning in.

Seriously this is a good result. Peaceful protesting is a good thing - glad they chose that.

 

[tri-man 47]

Do well, weekend racers!!! Ivan, I hope your marathon ends up being incident free ...but let the possibility of late-race theatrics be a motivation for you in the final miles.

The mayor met with the BLM leader yesterday. Apparently they'll still be there protesting at a designated area near the finish line, but they've agreed not to disrupt the race.

I was looking forward to mayhem and lots of leaning in.

Seriously this is a good result. Peaceful protesting is a good thing - glad they chose that.

Really. Why not just line the route near the finish and do the whole raised fist thing (ala 1968)?