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xulf
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
Might need to change next month’s challenge to Satya September
gruecd
Footballguy
But I may have booked a hotel room just in case…
I have a concert in Milwaukee on 4/13 (Saturday), so I wouldn’t be able to fly in until Sunday.
Sand
Footballguy
Oh, good gravy.
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In other news - last Thursday ride suck index 173. Today 150. An absolute world of difference.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Last Erie workout complete a day behind @gruecd - in 9 days I should be able to close that gap a bit.
I am not sure how I’m feeling about my fitness, last 2 weeks or so were messy with some physical flare up and then a little sickness that might have been from overshooting training a bit. Both are way better so it’s all about more rest and keeping my legs moving and finding my confidence as I try to keep from going full nutter.
I am not sure how I’m feeling about my fitness, last 2 weeks or so were messy with some physical flare up and then a little sickness that might have been from overshooting training a bit. Both are way better so it’s all about more rest and keeping my legs moving and finding my confidence as I try to keep from going full nutter.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Well, here's a long update. I guess I'm due, and since I'm just under 3 weeks away from leaving for Berlin, the timing works out.
Last week was a bit busy with lots going on plus we had some insane temps, even for here. Like, dew points in the 80's, which I've never seen before. Timing ended up working out for stepping back other than it's like 5 weeks away from the race and I should be peaking with my workload. So, punted to this week to get one last push for volume and get one more long run in. Temps this week have been great and today was the last day it was staying like this before getting hot again so I decided last minute to go ahead and just do the long run this morning. Just finished a bit ago and it was a huge confidence boost and confirmed a couple things as well. So, here goes....
1) Fitness wise I'm feeling pretty good. Strava and Garmin have plateued for me over the last month so even though I've been getting out there and I'm feeling good and my AHR has been coming down even more, I'm not doing enough pushing to get it any higher according to them. That said, I'm ok with that since I'm not looking to "race" so I'm not trying to get in optimum shape. My easy runs have had HRs in the 130s which is really good for me. When I got started again 3 months ago, those same runs were in the 150-160's. Even when it's hot, going out to run 4-5 miles doesn't suck anymore.
2) Volume wise, I've done pretty good at getting in 30+ mpw. Not ideal and I've only done a couple long runs, but for the first time, doing 8-10 miles feels really easy and that's a good sign for me. It was confirmed today when I just did 17 and feel great. Had plenty left in me to go much longer, barely feel like I ran, and so I think the legs are in a spot to be able to cover the distance. That was going to be my biggest concern because I can always slow down if I need to from a fitness standpoint.
3) Injury wise, I've been lucky so far. A few days ago, though, my right quad got pretty tight after I did my tempo run on Monday followed up by a hilly run the next day. It wasn't liking the downhills and it was pretty tight and tender the rest of that day. Stretched it, ran easy on Wednesday and rested yesterday and it's much better now. I did start to feel it again today in mile 15 but nowhere near as bad as before. I'm going to be mindful of it, keep stretching and take it easy with 3 weeks left if I need to. Otherwise, things are looking good.
4) As much as I've talked about hydration and sweating, I think I've truly overlooked the importance of it in the past. I've been really focusing on staying really hydrated all the time and I've been using my CamelBak more. I took it on my run today (and the last long run as well) and it made all the difference in the world. And every time I try to go without it, even when it's not that hot, I've paid the price eventually. So, I decided now that I'm 100% going to run with the water pack in Berlin. The extra weight doesn't bother me and certainly doesn't outweigh the benefit I get from having plenty of water whenever I need it. My HR today stayed nice and even throughout the whole run. I was still seeing some 130's on downhills more than 10 miles into it. There's no way that happens if I'm not drinking enough.
5) Along with #4, I realized something about running Jack and Jill 2 years ago that I don't think I drank enough. I overlooked it just because it wasn't hot. Sure, I stopped at each water station, walked it and got some water, but a couple little cups every couple miles is just nowhere near enough for me. I think that's why I was cruising along, feeling great at the 10 mile point and then suddenly the HR jumped and it was awful from there on out. Knowing now that that's exactly what happens every time I don't bring water and drink enough, I never even thought that's what was going on. That's what happens with me, it comes on suddenly and my effort just jumps drastically where a given pace feels SO much harder and my HR goes up 10-15 BPM. Knowing that now, I think if I had brought my water pack 2 years ago and ran with it, I would have done so much better. Which is also why I decided I'm bringing it for Berlin without question.
6) Not having a time goal has been invigorating. It's allowed me to train stress-free. I don't worry about hitting paces. I'm not following any plan. I'm basically running easy when I need to and when it's been a little, I'll do some kind of workout. Maybe it's a few pace miles. Maybe it's a progression run. Maybe it's 2-3 miles at 10K pace. Maybe it's hills. But I feel like I've done a decent job in putting things together based on how things have been feeling without worrying about time goals and it's allowed me to run more, run happier, and get to a good spot. My pace today on my 17 mile run was a good bit faster than I was thinking I'd do Berlin. And, while I still won't have any time goal, I think I'll be looking at finishing faster than I initially thought 3 months ago when I started. If I can feel as good as I did today when running in 3 weeks on race day, I'll be ecstatic. If I really wanted to kill myself, I think I could approach a PR, but it would have to be a perfect day and it would hurt and I don't care that much about it to risk it, but based on today, I realized I'm about where I was 2 years ago, if not even a little better as I've been a bit more consistent.
Anyway, thanks again to all here for all the advice and support as always. One of the fun things about getting back into this is that I've been following along with others more closely than I had been and it's always encouraging and awesome to see what all you guys are doing. In particular to the few that have had to put up with texts throughout this cycle, I wouldn't enjoy this or be in the same spot without you guys.
Last week was a bit busy with lots going on plus we had some insane temps, even for here. Like, dew points in the 80's, which I've never seen before. Timing ended up working out for stepping back other than it's like 5 weeks away from the race and I should be peaking with my workload. So, punted to this week to get one last push for volume and get one more long run in. Temps this week have been great and today was the last day it was staying like this before getting hot again so I decided last minute to go ahead and just do the long run this morning. Just finished a bit ago and it was a huge confidence boost and confirmed a couple things as well. So, here goes....
1) Fitness wise I'm feeling pretty good. Strava and Garmin have plateued for me over the last month so even though I've been getting out there and I'm feeling good and my AHR has been coming down even more, I'm not doing enough pushing to get it any higher according to them. That said, I'm ok with that since I'm not looking to "race" so I'm not trying to get in optimum shape. My easy runs have had HRs in the 130s which is really good for me. When I got started again 3 months ago, those same runs were in the 150-160's. Even when it's hot, going out to run 4-5 miles doesn't suck anymore.
2) Volume wise, I've done pretty good at getting in 30+ mpw. Not ideal and I've only done a couple long runs, but for the first time, doing 8-10 miles feels really easy and that's a good sign for me. It was confirmed today when I just did 17 and feel great. Had plenty left in me to go much longer, barely feel like I ran, and so I think the legs are in a spot to be able to cover the distance. That was going to be my biggest concern because I can always slow down if I need to from a fitness standpoint.
3) Injury wise, I've been lucky so far. A few days ago, though, my right quad got pretty tight after I did my tempo run on Monday followed up by a hilly run the next day. It wasn't liking the downhills and it was pretty tight and tender the rest of that day. Stretched it, ran easy on Wednesday and rested yesterday and it's much better now. I did start to feel it again today in mile 15 but nowhere near as bad as before. I'm going to be mindful of it, keep stretching and take it easy with 3 weeks left if I need to. Otherwise, things are looking good.
4) As much as I've talked about hydration and sweating, I think I've truly overlooked the importance of it in the past. I've been really focusing on staying really hydrated all the time and I've been using my CamelBak more. I took it on my run today (and the last long run as well) and it made all the difference in the world. And every time I try to go without it, even when it's not that hot, I've paid the price eventually. So, I decided now that I'm 100% going to run with the water pack in Berlin. The extra weight doesn't bother me and certainly doesn't outweigh the benefit I get from having plenty of water whenever I need it. My HR today stayed nice and even throughout the whole run. I was still seeing some 130's on downhills more than 10 miles into it. There's no way that happens if I'm not drinking enough.
5) Along with #4, I realized something about running Jack and Jill 2 years ago that I don't think I drank enough. I overlooked it just because it wasn't hot. Sure, I stopped at each water station, walked it and got some water, but a couple little cups every couple miles is just nowhere near enough for me. I think that's why I was cruising along, feeling great at the 10 mile point and then suddenly the HR jumped and it was awful from there on out. Knowing now that that's exactly what happens every time I don't bring water and drink enough, I never even thought that's what was going on. That's what happens with me, it comes on suddenly and my effort just jumps drastically where a given pace feels SO much harder and my HR goes up 10-15 BPM. Knowing that now, I think if I had brought my water pack 2 years ago and ran with it, I would have done so much better. Which is also why I decided I'm bringing it for Berlin without question.
6) Not having a time goal has been invigorating. It's allowed me to train stress-free. I don't worry about hitting paces. I'm not following any plan. I'm basically running easy when I need to and when it's been a little, I'll do some kind of workout. Maybe it's a few pace miles. Maybe it's a progression run. Maybe it's 2-3 miles at 10K pace. Maybe it's hills. But I feel like I've done a decent job in putting things together based on how things have been feeling without worrying about time goals and it's allowed me to run more, run happier, and get to a good spot. My pace today on my 17 mile run was a good bit faster than I was thinking I'd do Berlin. And, while I still won't have any time goal, I think I'll be looking at finishing faster than I initially thought 3 months ago when I started. If I can feel as good as I did today when running in 3 weeks on race day, I'll be ecstatic. If I really wanted to kill myself, I think I could approach a PR, but it would have to be a perfect day and it would hurt and I don't care that much about it to risk it, but based on today, I realized I'm about where I was 2 years ago, if not even a little better as I've been a bit more consistent.
Anyway, thanks again to all here for all the advice and support as always. One of the fun things about getting back into this is that I've been following along with others more closely than I had been and it's always encouraging and awesome to see what all you guys are doing. In particular to the few that have had to put up with texts throughout this cycle, I wouldn't enjoy this or be in the same spot without you guys.
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bushdocda
Footballguy
@gianmarco if you do carry your water you’ll be spared some of the freaking cluster at the water stops if they still use the plastic cups that bounce and kick all over the place.
More time to dance with the polka and drum bands along the way.
More time to dance with the polka and drum bands along the way.
gianmarco
Footballguy
ChiefD
Footballguy
Awesome recap @gianmarco .
Honestly, with that newly found discovery about the water I would think about more marathons.
Honestly, with that newly found discovery about the water I would think about more marathons.
gianmarco
Footballguy
No.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Finished up the burpees today after a one day delay (blood donation on the 31st) ...total of 600 for the month. Last set was 56. I was pretty sloppy at the end, but it was a solid climax.
Now to try the Turkish technique.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Also, I'm curious what some of you think.
How much and how long do I need to taper?
I know it's usually 2-3 weeks, and I know in general keep the same intensity but cut the volume.
But, I'm not sure how much I really need to do. Doing 35ish mpw, my legs just aren't that tired. I definitely don't think I need 3 weeks. I figure I'll treat next week like a regular week and try to do what I've been doing but I won't worry if it ends up being a little less. So 30-35 miles again, try to get a 10 mile run or two in. Two weeks out, I'm thinking I'll still probably try to do 25-30 miles with a workout or two. Last week, especially with travel, will be a dropoff for sure and will just do what I can. Can't see going over 15 miles before Sunday.
Thoughts?
How much and how long do I need to taper?
I know it's usually 2-3 weeks, and I know in general keep the same intensity but cut the volume.
But, I'm not sure how much I really need to do. Doing 35ish mpw, my legs just aren't that tired. I definitely don't think I need 3 weeks. I figure I'll treat next week like a regular week and try to do what I've been doing but I won't worry if it ends up being a little less. So 30-35 miles again, try to get a 10 mile run or two in. Two weeks out, I'm thinking I'll still probably try to do 25-30 miles with a workout or two. Last week, especially with travel, will be a dropoff for sure and will just do what I can. Can't see going over 15 miles before Sunday.
Thoughts?
-OZ-
Footballguy
Sounds good to me.
But then I know nothing about running and probably never tapered right
bushdocda
Footballguy
Seems reasonable for sure.
You staying in Berlin a bit and then traveling after?
gianmarco
Footballguy
Fly out Wednesday, get in Thursday morning ~10am. Race Sunday. Early train on Monday to Munich for Oktoberfest. Fly out early Wednesday morning from Frankfurt back home.
Zasada
Footballguy
Everyone is different, but I have found short tapers to be better for me. Long tapers have had me feeling like I was "kicking the rust off" at race time, and I don't like that.
For Houston this year, I did "normal" (not taper) volume the week before race week. Over 100K, but mostly easy pace. Then race week I dropped my midweek HM, and cut 2K off my other weekday runs. Two days before Houston rest, day before short shakeout, then race day.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I'd also lean toward a shorter taper. As long as you're avoiding the long runs over the final three weeks and not pushing hard pacing, regular mileage and effort through to about ten days before the race should be fine, IMO.
look at Jim Walmsley’s strava of the first place run.
Zasada
Footballguy
I think @SayWhat? and @SFBayDuck will recognize this photo from my run on Saturday.
Other than getting up there and doing what I planned to do, it was an awful run. 850m of elevation gain felt like twice that. Even an easy pace on the downhill had me exhausted. I planned to go 20K round-trip, but cut it short to 13K. It was cold, windy, and drizzly.
But soon after I realized there was a reason for all that. Apparently I was on the front end of a virus, which has now sidelined me for two days. I get winded climbing the stairs here at our AirBnB in Tahoe. A real bummer to have all these cool runs planned for our trip here, and instead I'm sitting in bed watching the Blue Jays on my tablet.
Hopefully I'll feel good enough to get a run in tomorrow morning on our last useful day here.
Upside is that better I deal with this now than during R2R2R?
Other than getting up there and doing what I planned to do, it was an awful run. 850m of elevation gain felt like twice that. Even an easy pace on the downhill had me exhausted. I planned to go 20K round-trip, but cut it short to 13K. It was cold, windy, and drizzly.
But soon after I realized there was a reason for all that. Apparently I was on the front end of a virus, which has now sidelined me for two days. I get winded climbing the stairs here at our AirBnB in Tahoe. A real bummer to have all these cool runs planned for our trip here, and instead I'm sitting in bed watching the Blue Jays on my tablet.
Hopefully I'll feel good enough to get a run in tomorrow morning on our last useful day here.
Upside is that better I deal with this now than during R2R2R?
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Had a GPS failure of a variety I've never seen before. It had lost lock a few times while I was getting ready, which is odd, so I had to wait about 30 seconds at the start. A few minutes in it starts giving me tenths of miles every few seconds. In the middle of the run it calmed down a bit and was giving me reasonable paces, but then at the end it's now telling me I'm running 12:00+ min miles? My pace throughout the run was almost certainly 7-8mph, but it had me all over the place. When I opened up the track, I see it has me starting ~1 mile away from where I did, and finishing ~5miles away from where I did. Also, the direction it had me running was like 120 degrees the wrong way? Just bizarre all around. Hopefully just a one time thing. I guess I'll need to flag it in strava because it gave me a 5K record, but I think that then deducts the mileage from the log? Irritating.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
A recent addition for September Satya.
Zasada
Footballguy
Worst case you could just add a manual run with the appropriate stats, and then delete the wonky one.
Zasada
Footballguy
Well, I got out.
Run quality from a fitness perspective: 1/10. 1 point for simply not quitting. So very slow.
Run quality from a trail/view perspective: 8/10. Some great views. Uphill slog was on a ski resort service road, but once at the top, it merged with the Tahoe Rim Trail, which was exactly what you'd expect. Views were great, and the round, smooth, huge rocks/boulders in the area were something I've never seen before. Trees were also quite unique. Weather was perfect.
I feel robbed of two other run days, but it is what it is. If I'm going to get sick, better for it to happen during training and not race week.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Those videos have really been helping me out. Thanks.
xulf
Footballguy
A couple of weeks ago my GPS spazzed on me too. It said I ran straight north when I was running south. It tried to find me but my distance and pace was all screwed up. I eventually stopped my run/watch for 30 seconds and it seemed fine.
I powered off the watch and restarted it when I got home and it's been fine. Hopefully yours is all good too!
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’m just here for the wardrobe.
Seriously, that top is a favorite.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Remember to stretch. Don’t pull something.Those videos have really been helping me out. Thanks.
gianmarco
Footballguy
But if you do pull something, do it a lot.Remember to stretch. Don’t pull something.Those videos have really been helping me out. Thanks.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Stay the course, amigos!
What a mess. Unrelated (except for the weirdness of the race), a guy I follow from western Australia was in Mexico City to run this marathon. But ..his Uber didn't show, he arrived very late, and ended up having to run far back in the pack and could never break free to run his pace. Tough to travel that far for such a disappointing day.
What a mess. Unrelated (except for the weirdness of the race), a guy I follow from western Australia was in Mexico City to run this marathon. But ..his Uber didn't show, he arrived very late, and ended up having to run far back in the pack and could never break free to run his pace. Tough to travel that far for such a disappointing day.
xulf
Footballguy
Did he run the whole thing or was he a cutter?
In Indy last year, the HM course got screwed up. If I remember right, everyone running that course ran a shortened version other than the winner.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
He ran the whole thing …but much slower than he was capable of.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Unpopular opinion - I’m starting to actually like the Turkish get up. Not to be confused with the The Git Up
xulf
Footballguy
Well, I feel just totally tired and defeated with my training and fitness. Both SOS runs this week fell short of what I wanted. My legs just aren't keeping up and it's stupid humid out.
Last week was cooler and I successfully completed my runs and felt good. Now, I just suck and 2 weeks ago also sucked. Logically I know this is how these cycles go, but I'm in a total rut and feeling burnt out.
I really don't even think my goal pace is that aggressive. I just want to cut 1:45 off what I did 18 months ago (~8 seconds per mile)...and I should be in much better shape and a better runner than I was then.
Ok, I'm done with my pity party. Looking forward to seeing what the studs in here do at Eerie this weekend
Last week was cooler and I successfully completed my runs and felt good. Now, I just suck and 2 weeks ago also sucked. Logically I know this is how these cycles go, but I'm in a total rut and feeling burnt out.
I really don't even think my goal pace is that aggressive. I just want to cut 1:45 off what I did 18 months ago (~8 seconds per mile)...and I should be in much better shape and a better runner than I was then.
Ok, I'm done with my pity party. Looking forward to seeing what the studs in here do at Eerie this weekend
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Judging by last night's run, the restart method worked.
Speaking of which, I'm assuming it will go down as the last 90F run of this calendar year. But who knows?
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Was looking forward to the Berlin folks and forgot that Erie was this weekend!Ok, I'm done with my pity party. Looking forward to seeing what the studs in here do at Eerie this weekend
I hope their legs are gifted with a surplus of that which runs.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Diarrhea?Was looking forward to the Berlin folks and forgot that Erie was this weekend!Ok, I'm done with my pity party. Looking forward to seeing what the studs in here do at Eerie this weekend
I hope their legs are gifted with a surplus of that which runs.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
That's reserved for the Delta flight.Diarrhea?Was looking forward to the Berlin folks and forgot that Erie was this weekend!Ok, I'm done with my pity party. Looking forward to seeing what the studs in here do at Eerie this weekend
I hope their legs are gifted with a surplus of that which runs.
Zasada
Footballguy
OK need some @gruecd and @bushdocda goals and bib numbers for Sunday! Hook a guy up!
bushdocda
Footballguy
Not sure if you are using a Hanson HM plan but thought so, those are a lot of up-pace miles to contend with. The heat etc makes it to where the paces probably should be getting adjusted a tick slower but that’s hard to do I know. Anyway you’re doing great and if you need to drop a WO for off or easy and adjust a bit it’s probably good thing in the scheme of the training cycle.Well, I feel just totally tired and defeated with my training and fitness. Both SOS runs this week fell short of what I wanted. My legs just aren't keeping up and it's stupid humid out.
Last week was cooler and I successfully completed my runs and felt good. Now, I just suck and 2 weeks ago also sucked. Logically I know this is how these cycles go, but I'm in a total rut and feeling burnt out.
I really don't even think my goal pace is that aggressive. I just want to cut 1:45 off what I did 18 months ago (~8 seconds per mile)...and I should be in much better shape and a better runner than I was then.
Ok, I'm done with my pity party. Looking forward to seeing what the studs in here do at Eerie this weekend
Be smart when you feel this way, it’s tricky to know when to HTFU and when to allow for a strategic step back session or week.
bushdocda
Footballguy
My nerves are having a workout.
I just counted 6 pairs of shoes in my car.
I have the same # of water bottles and coffee. I’ll make it 20 minutes before my first pit stop.
I’ll have a long think on goals while I drive I bet and how to treat the BQ sub 3:20 and buffer considerations that get tricky with humidity forecast on how I aim to pace.
Bibs tomorrow and I think app tracking via RaceJoy.
bushdocda
Footballguy
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Haven't the last two years seen all qualifiers gain entry? Feels like the same would be true this year? Maybe I'm missing something.
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Haven't the last two years seen all qualifiers gain entry? Feels like the same would be true this year? Maybe I'm missing something.
gruecd
Footballguy
Yeah, I just checked the RaceJoy app, and it still says that bib numbers are pending, so it might just be one of those things where they're assigned at packet pick-up.
There's no easy way to get to Erie by plane, but I have no desire to drive 9 hours, so I'm taking the circuitous route and flying Milwaukee to Charlotte to Erie.
Scheduled to land in Erie tomorrow around 1pm, so I'll grab my rental car and go straight to packet pick-up, then over to hotel for a quick shakeout run before an early dinner with @bushdocda at 5:30.Weather is going to be less than ideal (to say the least), with temps in the upper 60s and dew points to match. With good weather, I think I could run 3:10-3:15 relatively easily. I'll see how it feels when I get out there, but as of right now, I'm still inclined to go out at 3:15 pace (7:26/mile) and just see what happens.
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gianmarco
Footballguy
One lap at Kipchoge speed
“I have 4 kids, so when it comes to crushing dreams and aspirations, I’m about as good as you can get”
“I have 4 kids, so when it comes to crushing dreams and aspirations, I’m about as good as you can get”
caustic
Footballguy
Mentally I found myself in the same spot last week - all I could think was, “**** I wish it was time to taper.” Add the physical issues I described earlier, and I decided to take this whole week off to get right. Turned out to be decent timing, as we’ve had the worst air quality of the summer these last few days. Slowly but surely, my legs are starting to feel better — I plan to resume some light, easy mileage these next couple weeks, hopefully getting back up to 1-2 weeks of peak mileage before tapering.Well, I feel just totally tired and defeated with my training and fitness. Both SOS runs this week fell short of what I wanted. My legs just aren't keeping up and it's stupid humid out.
Last week was cooler and I successfully completed my runs and felt good. Now, I just suck and 2 weeks ago also sucked. Logically I know this is how these cycles go, but I'm in a total rut and feeling burnt out.
I really don't even think my goal pace is that aggressive. I just want to cut 1:45 off what I did 18 months ago (~8 seconds per mile)...and I should be in much better shape and a better runner than I was then.
Ok, I'm done with my pity party. Looking forward to seeing what the studs in here do at Eerie this weekend
Also looking forward to what the Erie BMFs can do on Sunday—you got this.
bushdocda
Footballguy
On it.Let's let @bushdocda worry about that.Related content
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Haven't the last two years seen all qualifiers gain entry? Feels like the same would be true this year? Maybe I'm missing something.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Local on tbe 8s, dew point report is 59 as I wait for the best steak Bob can offer.
Yeah, I just checked the RaceJoy app, and it still says that bib numbers are pending, so it might just be one of those things where they're assigned at packet pick-up.
There's no easy way to get to Erie by plane, but I have no desire to drive 9 hours, so I'm taking the circuitous route and flying Milwaukee to Charlotte to Erie.
Weather is going to be less than ideal (to say the least), with temps in the upper 60s and dew points to match. With good weather, I think I could run 3:10-3:15 relatively easily. I'll see how it feels when I get out there, but as of right now, I'm still inclined to go out at 3:15 pace (7:26/mile) and just see what happens.
