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belljr said:
ChiefD said:
So, I got a epidural/steroid shot in my neck last Thursday. This is step one of basically pain management until something either gets worse or if I just decide to have neck surgery. This can last anywhere from this point of time until 18 months.

So far so good. The juice started doing its job on Saturday when I was driving on a college visit for my son. My wife asks me: "How's your neck feeling?"

I look at her and up until that particular moment I hadn't noticed any pain at all. I looked at her and said: "I actually feel pretty good!" :lol:

The rest of that day was spent walking around a really hilly campus and then watching the football game (my son is a kicker and wants to play in college. this was a campus invite from the team}.

I'd say the pain is 90% gone. Shoulder blade pain - gone. Head pain - gone. A little bit of neck soreness but the doc had told me I may some arthritis there too so we will see how much pain this helps. Haven't felt this good in literally years.

Not every day is perfect but man it's a ton better. Gonna try and ramp up some running and see what happens there. :thumbup:
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ChiefD said:
belljr said:
ChiefD said:
So, I got a epidural/steroid shot in my neck last Thursday. This is step one of basically pain management until something either gets worse or if I just decide to have neck surgery. This can last anywhere from this point of time until 18 months.

So far so good. The juice started doing its job on Saturday when I was driving on a college visit for my son. My wife asks me: "How's your neck feeling?"

I look at her and up until that particular moment I hadn't noticed any pain at all. I looked at her and said: "I actually feel pretty good!" :lol:

The rest of that day was spent walking around a really hilly campus and then watching the football game (my son is a kicker and wants to play in college. this was a campus invite from the team}.

I'd say the pain is 90% gone. Shoulder blade pain - gone. Head pain - gone. A little bit of neck soreness but the doc had told me I may some arthritis there too so we will see how much pain this helps. Haven't felt this good in literally years.

Not every day is perfect but man it's a ton better. Gonna try and ramp up some running and see what happens there. :thumbup:
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Well it's killing me too
 
caustic said:
After taking a much needed week off, I'm back to square one after just four workouts. Calves/shins are killing me again, and for good measure, I'm also dealing with a flareup of ITBS in both legs. I've been throwing the kitchen sink at this - strength/mobility work, icing, foam rolling, stretching, massage therapy, shoe rotation, etc.. - but it just hasn't been enough to offset the damage from training. I think I've built a sufficient base to at least finish my race, which is almost exactly one month away. The pace targets I was training for might be out of reach, though. I don't see myself running much over the next week or two and I've accepted that I'll be going into this race woefully unprepared.

As disappointing as this has been, I'm seeing at least two silver linings:
1. I'm going to reach out to a PT, something I probably should've done years ago. This isn't the first time I've started running only to have the wheels fall off after a few months. There has to be a significant muscle imbalance or form deficiency that I'm just not catching - if I can actually get this corrected, it'll be worth it.
2. It'll be easy to PR in future races. :)

So that's where I'm at. Feels like I'm always in here complaining despite only running a fraction of the mileage that the rest of you BMFs are, but hopefully the positive updates will come with time. I know you all are going to smash this slate of upcoming races. :boxing:
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Man sorry you are back to all this. Any noticeable uneven wear on shoes you’ve put a good number of miles on?
Do you get any cadence data on your runs?
 
Might have been quicker but I now have blisters on the bottom of my feet because i failed to realize i forgot to change out of my hey dudes............. lollollol
 
bushdocda said:
caustic said:
After taking a much needed week off, I'm back to square one after just four workouts. Calves/shins are killing me again, and for good measure, I'm also dealing with a flareup of ITBS in both legs. I've been throwing the kitchen sink at this - strength/mobility work, icing, foam rolling, stretching, massage therapy, shoe rotation, etc.. - but it just hasn't been enough to offset the damage from training. I think I've built a sufficient base to at least finish my race, which is almost exactly one month away. The pace targets I was training for might be out of reach, though. I don't see myself running much over the next week or two and I've accepted that I'll be going into this race woefully unprepared.

As disappointing as this has been, I'm seeing at least two silver linings:
1. I'm going to reach out to a PT, something I probably should've done years ago. This isn't the first time I've started running only to have the wheels fall off after a few months. There has to be a significant muscle imbalance or form deficiency that I'm just not catching - if I can actually get this corrected, it'll be worth it.
2. It'll be easy to PR in future races. :)

So that's where I'm at. Feels like I'm always in here complaining despite only running a fraction of the mileage that the rest of you BMFs are, but hopefully the positive updates will come with time. I know you all are going to smash this slate of upcoming races. :boxing:
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Man sorry you are back to all this. Any noticeable uneven wear on shoes you’ve put a good number of miles on?
Do you get any cadence data on your runs?
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Took a peek at my Hokas and there appears to be a little extra wear on the outside edge of the heel area, suggesting supination. Mid/forefoot area is pretty even. I have high arches and have definitely been a supinator in the past - the wear patterns on some of my old shoes are terrible. I added some orthotics to correct that during this training cycle, but it looks like this might not be completely fixed yet.

Cadence is definitely something I should work on. A lot of my runs are in the low-mid 160s and a few long runs I looked at are even slower. I've tried speeding it up before but always ended up increasing my pace/HR too - moving to the treadmill for a while ( :x ) might help with that?

I also found a local physical therapy group that specializes in running injuries and gait retraining - can't get in until October 4 so I don't expect my form to be radically different by the 21st, but I'm optimistic that this will prevent a lot of future issues.
 
caustic said:
bushdocda said:
caustic said:
After taking a much needed week off, I'm back to square one after just four workouts. Calves/shins are killing me again, and for good measure, I'm also dealing with a flareup of ITBS in both legs. I've been throwing the kitchen sink at this - strength/mobility work, icing, foam rolling, stretching, massage therapy, shoe rotation, etc.. - but it just hasn't been enough to offset the damage from training. I think I've built a sufficient base to at least finish my race, which is almost exactly one month away. The pace targets I was training for might be out of reach, though. I don't see myself running much over the next week or two and I've accepted that I'll be going into this race woefully unprepared.

As disappointing as this has been, I'm seeing at least two silver linings:
1. I'm going to reach out to a PT, something I probably should've done years ago. This isn't the first time I've started running only to have the wheels fall off after a few months. There has to be a significant muscle imbalance or form deficiency that I'm just not catching - if I can actually get this corrected, it'll be worth it.
2. It'll be easy to PR in future races. :)

So that's where I'm at. Feels like I'm always in here complaining despite only running a fraction of the mileage that the rest of you BMFs are, but hopefully the positive updates will come with time. I know you all are going to smash this slate of upcoming races. :boxing:
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Man sorry you are back to all this. Any noticeable uneven wear on shoes you’ve put a good number of miles on?
Do you get any cadence data on your runs?
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Took a peek at my Hokas and there appears to be a little extra wear on the outside edge of the heel area, suggesting supination. Mid/forefoot area is pretty even. I have high arches and have definitely been a supinator in the past - the wear patterns on some of my old shoes are terrible. I added some orthotics to correct that during this training cycle, but it looks like this might not be completely fixed yet.

Cadence is definitely something I should work on. A lot of my runs are in the low-mid 160s and a few long runs I looked at are even slower. I've tried speeding it up before but always ended up increasing my pace/HR too - moving to the treadmill for a while ( :x ) might help with that?

I also found a local physical therapy group that specializes in running injuries and gait retraining - can't get in until October 4 so I don't expect my form to be radically different by the 21st, but I'm optimistic that this will prevent a lot of future issues.
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It will be great to get checked by the pros. Cadence is very individualized to body type and running style so it’s not a slam dunk for a higher cadence in all runners. I was curious though bc a lower cadence could suggest overstriding and place an outsized strain/impact forces on lower legs. The PT folks will be big help.
Hang in there.
 
I'm 4 1/2 weeks from my half marathon. I feel pretty good with where I'm at. I'm not quite where I was in 2021 but I'm close. I'm healthier than I was then though. My main training goal has been to do weekly tempos as those seem to help me the most (mentally, anyway, if not physically). I skipped a week when it was super hot and had one bad one, but the others have gone as well as could be expected.

I think a PR is possible especially if the weather is right and I'm wearing magic shoes. I keep thinking I'm too old to keep PRing but then training seems to suggest otherwise. Regardless, though, I'll be happy to be in the ballpark of my PR.
 
Well, not much running happening for now. Will likely do the 6K run on Saturday morning but that'll be about it before the race.

We did head to the expo today. It's in an old airport, you've got a long way to walk and security is pretty tight. You've gotta show up with ID and your starter card and they don't allow others to go in. Our boy @gruecd shows his first, then his better half gets turned away. Then he asks to see Mrs. GM's stuff, she shows it and starts to head in.

Then this dude looks at me and, instead of asking for my stater card and ID, he goes "visitor?". And seemed a little surprised when I told him I was doing it too.

**** him.
 
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ChiefD said:
So, I got a epidural/steroid shot in my neck last Thursday. This is step one of basically pain management until something either gets worse or if I just decide to have neck surgery. This can last anywhere from this point of time until 18 months.

So far so good. The juice started doing its job on Saturday when I was driving on a college visit for my son. My wife asks me: "How's your neck feeling?"

I look at her and up until that particular moment I hadn't noticed any pain at all. I looked at her and said: "I actually feel pretty good!" :lol:

The rest of that day was spent walking around a really hilly campus and then watching the football game (my son is a kicker and wants to play in college. this was a campus invite from the team}.

I'd say the pain is 90% gone. Shoulder blade pain - gone. Head pain - gone. A little bit of neck soreness but the doc had told me I may some arthritis there too so we will see how much pain this helps. Haven't felt this good in literally years.

Not every day is perfect but man it's a ton better. Gonna try and ramp up some running and see what happens there. :thumbup:
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Well, this lasted all of one week. **** me.

:kicksrock:

Run today was effing awful. Aborted after 1.3 miles. Sigh.
 
ChiefD said:
ChiefD said:
So, I got a epidural/steroid shot in my neck last Thursday. This is step one of basically pain management until something either gets worse or if I just decide to have neck surgery. This can last anywhere from this point of time until 18 months.

So far so good. The juice started doing its job on Saturday when I was driving on a college visit for my son. My wife asks me: "How's your neck feeling?"

I look at her and up until that particular moment I hadn't noticed any pain at all. I looked at her and said: "I actually feel pretty good!" :lol:

The rest of that day was spent walking around a really hilly campus and then watching the football game (my son is a kicker and wants to play in college. this was a campus invite from the team}.

I'd say the pain is 90% gone. Shoulder blade pain - gone. Head pain - gone. A little bit of neck soreness but the doc had told me I may some arthritis there too so we will see how much pain this helps. Haven't felt this good in literally years.

Not every day is perfect but man it's a ton better. Gonna try and ramp up some running and see what happens there. :thumbup:
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Well, this lasted all of one week. **** me.

:kicksrock:

Run today was effing awful. Aborted after 1.3 miles. Sigh.
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Damn …sorry to hear it, GB. :kicksrock:
 
If anyone cares to follow along with the blue dot, PM me an email address and I'll add it to my Garmin tracking. I don't know how well it will work here, but I'll give it a go. My wave start is 10:05 here, so likely finish around 2:30pm, or 8:30am EST.
 
well la-di-da @gruecd will just fly halfway around the world and run a marathon while the rest of us sleep and he's already done and pounding schnitzels and large mugs of beer served by whores with big breasts and just drops a 3:20 on us as we wipe the sleep outta our eyes and we are just capable of watching football today......errrr......american football..........
 
Well, that was a disaster. I've had some tough races, but this one takes the cake. Not much of a race report to write, but I'll explain later.

Things weren't right very early and it was a looooong ways to go knowing I had to walk. The physical pain/cramps were outdone by the mental pain all the way back in mile 8. I strongly considered getting off the course that early knowing I had 18 miles of difficulty to go.

Anyway, thanks for following along and in particular thanks to @SteelCurtain for engaging with me early on and helping me grind through it. That was pure misery.
 
gianmarco said:
Well, that was a disaster. I've had some tough races, but this one takes the cake. Not much of a race report to write, but I'll explain later.

Things weren't right very early and it was a looooong ways to go knowing I had to walk. The physical pain/cramps were outdone by the mental pain all the way back in mile 8. I strongly considered getting off the course that early knowing I had 18 miles of difficulty to go.

Anyway, thanks for following along and in particular thanks to @SteelCurtain for engaging with me early on and helping me grind through it. That was pure misery.
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I’m surprised based on your September 1 run. However, I know the trip wasn’t just about the marathon so I hope you enjoy your remaining time in Germany!
 
gianmarco said:
Things weren't right very early and it was a looooong ways to go knowing I had to walk. The physical pain/cramps were outdone by the mental pain all the way back in mile 8.
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I think this is where most people would’ve thrown in the towel. Having the mental toughness to still grind through 18 miles of suck is legitimately impressive and something to be proud of. Congrats to you, the Mrs., and @gruecd for knocking this out - you all are an inspiration. :thumbup:
 
gianmarco said:
Well, that was a disaster. I've had some tough races, but this one takes the cake. Not much of a race report to write, but I'll explain later.

Things weren't right very early and it was a looooong ways to go knowing I had to walk. The physical pain/cramps were outdone by the mental pain all the way back in mile 8. I strongly considered getting off the course that early knowing I had 18 miles of difficulty to go.

Anyway, thanks for following along and in particular thanks to @SteelCurtain for engaging with me early on and helping me grind through it. That was pure misery.
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Ah, drawing the cramps card on race day sucks. Proud of you for getting through to the end. #BMF
 
Juxtatarot said:
gianmarco said:
Well, that was a disaster. I've had some tough races, but this one takes the cake. Not much of a race report to write, but I'll explain later.

Things weren't right very early and it was a looooong ways to go knowing I had to walk. The physical pain/cramps were outdone by the mental pain all the way back in mile 8. I strongly considered getting off the course that early knowing I had 18 miles of difficulty to go.

Anyway, thanks for following along and in particular thanks to @SteelCurtain for engaging with me early on and helping me grind through it. That was pure misery.
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I’m surprised based on your September 1 run. However, I know the trip wasn’t just about the marathon so I hope you enjoy your remaining time in Germany!
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I was surprised too. 3 weeks ago, 17 miles felt easy with a great HR. After doing similar 3 weeks before that. I thought I was ready

I didn't mention it here, but I got sick a little over a week ago. Still not over it. Coughing a ton, haven't really slept here. Was even messaging @SteelCurtain last night at like 3am my time since I left the room to try and let my better half sleep a little.

I didn't think it would matter for today but maybe it did. My HR was much higher than where it was even a week ago. But even still, I felt just fine the first few miles despite the higher HR. It didn't FEEL that high. I probably should have slowed down as a result but I also really don't think it would have mattered.

So yeah, things suddenly turned by miles 7-8 and it felt like mile 20 should feel even without a crazy high HR. I was drinking (had my CamelBak), I was fueling, weather was fine.... there really was no good reason for it to be that bad that early.

I was fighting the urge to walk for a while and finally gave in pretty early on still. And the math was that I still had 3 hours+ of that, at best. I REALLY wanted to walk off. It's silly, but the finisher's medal is the only reason I didn't. And I don't even care about those medals.

My time was embarrassing. I know I can do better. But that was really hard out there and I fought through it. After the first couple miles of doing some walking, then tightness/cramps kicked in. That was mile 12, I think. Restarting running was so painful every time. I'd run a couple minutes, HR would spike to 170s, then I walked again. And even walking, with HR dropping to 120s was REALLY uncomfortable. Like I couldn't catch my breath. It was bad.

I did the best I could at the end. Crowd support in certain areas was great and I would run for them. High fived lots of people and tried to smile a lot. There were no smiles the last couple miles.

Anyway, at the end, I was in bad shape. Found my wife, then took forever trying to get back to hotel. Hopped on the subway to lessen the walk, went the wrong way, and then all of a sudden I got really nauseated and lightheaded. Next thing I know, I woke up with everyone on the train standing around me, holding my legs up. I passed out which I've never done in my life. It was scary. I came to pretty quick, someone gave me some water, and we finally made it back.

Needless to say, this marathon experience is one I want to completely forget. I do feel like I did enough to get ready for it but it didn't really matter.

Anyway, thanks for following. Yeah, it's cool I pushed through it, but it still sucked incredibly. And I really can't see myself doing another one of these. It's just not my thing. I even got into the training and was enjoying where I got, but man... that was awful.
 
Dang, gian ...that's some scary s###. Hopefully it was a short-term combination of recent illness with the travel. A lights-out gianing experience on a Berlin subway is not the kind of memory you were hoping for. Best wishes for a quick recovery and an enjoyable rest of the trip.
 
gianmarco said:
Anyway, thanks for following along and in particular thanks to @SteelCurtain for engaging with me early on and helping me grind through it. That was pure misery.
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It’s amazing what me telling him “DBAP” in German for hours will do!. :yes: 🇩🇪

Seriously, you showed extraordinary resilience on a day when you just didn’t feel well. Mad props to you. Not sure I would have had the balls to keep on going in those circumstances.
 
@gianmarco the way-too-early HR spike, the cramps, and then the passing out on the train -- all not normal. You are probably lugging that virus around still, and dropping a ton of jet lag on top of that. Absolutely not representative of what you're capable of. I got sick a few weeks ago and it made me a new runner again. And that's all without passing-out.

Take care, GB.
 
Well @gianmarco - I know that day was the worst marathon day for you. A race distance you really didn't want to race again. But a race where you gave it an honest effort in training to make it through the race on YOUR terms. Alas, it's running and some days were just not meant to be. And it flat out sucks as we all know here.

But MY takeaway of this has more to do with you and your mental strength. You knew early that it was gonna suck. And you made the choice to keep going. And you may that choice OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER on a terrible day for you.

I know right now that small victory means nothing to you. But it sure means something to me. All it did was validate the kind of man that you are. You should be damn proud of yourself. I know I am.
 
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