Go for it! As Duck said - the full will always be there for you with open arms.My plan at the moment is to do 2 half's next year - one in the spring and one in the fall - and see if I can mix in more quality work-outs since the distances aren't as long. But dammit, that itch is still there to try and beat 4:00. I know it's in there somewhere, but I need to figure this out mentally. I think a lot of the work related stress I have had for the last 5 years is catching up to me, and if I'm going to be honest with myself I need to take care of those things to free up my mind. And that may happen this year yet.
I am in the exact same place. My body is spent. I'm in the final 10 days in my plan before the taper begins. (Although the Hansen's taper, isn't like most.....i have a 10 MP run just 10 days before NYC. Ugh.)So yesterday was opening day of archery season at the park, so of course I'm off work. But only for 2 days.... that's a first for me in I don't know how long. I really don't want to derail training with hunting this year... I managed to get a deer last night, and so did my brother.![]()
I've sensed it for a while now, but I feel like I'm running on that ragged edge. My body is tired and it feels like I'm doing all I can recovery wise to just make it to the next day. That became very evident yesterday when I came home from hunting to get a quick recovery run in. Sweet mother of god my legs were SORE. And then dragging that dang deer out of the woods last night had my legs a-screamin'. So with that, I'm ending my 30 day streak (which is a PR!) and not running today. I even slept in today and bypassed the AM hunt to get some extra rest.![]()
It's funny how last winter I had to force myself to run and now? God I'm doing everything I can to not run today even though my body is begging for it.![]()
Great run @ChiefD and congrats on the PR! I really enjoyed your RR.Go for it! As Duck said - the full will always be there for you with open arms.
Congrats on the PR!
Yup, I hear ya....Man, 10 days. You're there!! I was picking Steve's brain on the taper and MP work - I'm probably going to do something similar, but I doubt I do 10!I am in the exact same place. My body is spent. I'm in the final 10 days in my plan before the taper begins. (Although the Hansen's taper, isn't like most.....i have a 10 MP run just 10 days before NYC. Ugh.)
A day off today is good medicine to prevent breakdowns of the body. Enjoy it!
I saw that you are doing a HM race 3 weeks before your marathon. I did that a few years ago and I'm not sure my legs fully came back for the marathon. Admittedly, I can't remember my taper but I felt like the HM was my best race. Perhaps some of it was mental? I'm not totally sure, but I know I said I probably need more than 3 weeks between races.Yup, I hear ya....Man, 10 days. You're there!! I was picking Steve's brain on the taper and MP work - I'm probably going to do something similar, but I doubt I do 10!
I think the 15K put it over the top; at least for my legs. I haven't felt that sore in a long time!
Congrats on the PR!I don't know. I pretty much hated this entire training cycle, and I don't know if I can do another one in the dead of summer. This is two brutal summers in a row weather-wise here in KC, and between that and me not really being a morning person, not sure I can do another. I've toyed with the idea of running a spring marathon so I could train for one in the winter just to see the difference, but I am starting to think I am not a marathoner, but rather a guy who ran a couple of marathons.
Thank you.Congrats on the PR!
I don't mean to pressure you to run another marathon and you should do what makes you happy BUT (I'm sure you knew there was going to be a but) if you really want to prioritize finishing under 4:00 I'm sure you can do it. You're probably right that you'll have to run in the mornings. If you have a busy work/family life, it's hard to find the time at other times. At 5:00 a.m. though, it's a safe bet that we don't have much going on. I recall that a lot of us that run in the early mornings don't consider ourselves "morning people" either. But you'll adjust after a while. You just gotta force yourself out of bed.
Join the DWD FB Page Every year there have been quite a few teams in a panic looking for runners. I'd bet two dozen or so runners get picked up the week of the event.I really wanted to run Dances with Dirt this year. I need to find a way onto a team next year. I did the Tough Mudder the week before DwD so my wife wasn't going to let me run it, but next year that is a target race for me.
Only thing that mattered was that I found another gear to get by the women's winner with a mile to go.Oh, and SteveC finished 22nd out of, like, a bazillion runners. 22nd.![]()
Right now I am 95% sure I will not do this.
DoneJoin the DWD FB Page Every year there have been quite a few teams in a panic looking for runners. I'd bet two dozen or so runners get picked up the week of the event.
Looks like you recovered nicely. I didn't connect the dots day-to-day, but just looked at your week as a whole and...well done!Good input here. I think I'll just play it by ear. I do like the fast finish long runs because you only do em when you feel it. That's probably the safe plan.
Also, before I get to ahead of myself I better see what hurricane Matthew is going to do because I'm not doing a MP run on the treadmill.![]()
We should put in a full 18 week training schedule for this one. Official training kicks off Monday, January 2.
I've always recovered well from the HM and below races, so I'm not worried about it. I did this same exact race schedule in 2014 when I BQ'ed. I've always felt that a 2 week taper is right for me, so this is sort of a hybrid 3 week/2 week taper since I'll taper sharply for the HM, and then resume the normal taper the following 2 weeks after the fact.SteelCurtain said:I saw that you are doing a HM race 3 weeks before your marathon. I did that a few years ago and I'm not sure my legs fully came back for the marathon. Admittedly, I can't remember my taper but I felt like the HM was my best race. Perhaps some of it was mental? I'm not totally sure, but I know I said I probably need more than 3 weeks between races.Ned said:Yup, I hear ya....Man, 10 days. You're there!! I was picking Steve's brain on the taper and MP work - I'm probably going to do something similar, but I doubt I do 10!
I think the 15K put it over the top; at least for my legs. I haven't felt that sore in a long time!
I don't say it to scare you but just to keep it in mind. I know Boston 2018 is your top priority, so don't lose sight of that.
Lists 7 reasons on why to do it.ChiefD said:Thank you.
It's funny you just posted this, as I was seriously just looking at the course map for the Kenosha Marathon in May of 2017. (btw, not sure if you have looked at this yet, but it is a serious clusterf**ck of a route.Just tried to redraw it on MapMyRun so I could get a good idea of the elevation.)
Anyway, my thoughts at the moment are (and I cannot believe I am thinking this or typing this), but if I'm gonna run another one this may be a good one to give it a go for the following reasons:
1. Weather should be right up my alley for favorable conditions for the race day.
2. I can train all winter in cool/cold temps.
3. This also means I can train in the evenings, since kids won't have outdoor sports practices to ferry them to all winter. Which means I will feel more up to running speed work in the colder temps.
4. I may have my brother talked into running the half, so we could run part of the course together.
5. The race is on a Saturday, so I could drive back home on Monday, which means I could go fishing for smallies and muskie on Sunday.
6. I already have a nice base to build on.
7. I'm an idiot.![]()
Right now I am 95% sure I will not do this.
Yeah, thanks buddy. I hadn't gotten a chance to get on here and congratulate everyone on a stellar weekend because of hurricane Matthew. The storm was supposed to turn but well...it didn't and hit VB much harder than anticipated. Lots of flooding and downed trees. We lost power for 48 hours but fared pretty well otherwise. I was still able to set a weekly mileage PR with a little over 70 miles. Only one workout (hills last Friday). My long run Sunday was a challenge with all the debris and roads closed but I got 17 miles in. I'm right back at it this week and looking for another mileage PR.MAC_32 said:Looks like you recovered nicely. I didn't connect the dots day-to-day, but just looked at your week as a whole and...well done!![]()
As we discussed last weekend, I understand your logic for laying off the marathons for a bit. In particular, you've got some exciting and busy years ahead as your kids grow, and marathoning is a tough balance with that. The counterpoint to the marathon is that you can also use the current base for other races - HM and below, or trail running. I'd suggest that you consider switching gears, adding track (interval) work, and seeing what you can do with 5Ks. The speed you develop with a short race focus will also benefit you longer term if/when you do pursue another marathon.ChiefD said:6. I already have a nice base to build on.
Right now I am 95% sure I will not do this.
Yeah, this was one of those nuggets I need to incorporate into my training. And I like the idea of mixing in some short races. I think from now until the end of the year I am going to try and vary up my training to add more speed, sign up for a short race or two, and see where my mind is in December., adding track (interval) work, and seeing what you can do with 5Ks. The speed you develop with a short race focus will also benefit you longer term if/when you do pursue another marathon.
The chicks that lather you up with sunscreen outside the change tent. They manage to use the goopy bottled sunscreen, I guess it's cheaper. They lather you up with sunscreen to your heart's content. Pro tip - avoid the dudes.What's this now?
I can barely afford one wife and 2 daughters. No way I could afford a harem.Maybe that's threethousand's name for his harem.
This changes everything.The chicks that lather you up with sunscreen outside the change tent. They manage to use the goopy bottled sunscreen, I guess it's cheaper. They lather you up with sunscreen to your heart's content. Pro tip - avoid the dudes.
The chicks that lather you up with sunscreen outside the change tent. They manage to use the goopy bottled sunscreen, I guess it's cheaper. They lather you up with sunscreen to your heart's content. Pro tip - avoid the dudes.
Looks like MAC is running the Columbus Marathon. Good luck, take it easy the first half.Primary - Columbus, October 16.
The weather isn't looking great, but I need to play the hand that is dealt. If it's going to be humid, in the mid 60's, and with a lot of sun...then let's dance.@MAC_32 - well, you ready for this? What's the weather like? Where can we sign up to live track?![]()
Yup. The taper was maddening for me last year as well. You'd think all that extra rest would leave you with springy legs and gobs of energy but no...not at all. It's the opposite. Just know that it ain't you, it's just taper madness. It's nothing to worry about. You'll be ready to roll when that gun goes off.The weather isn't looking great, but I need to play the hand that is dealt. If it's going to be humid, in the mid 60's, and with a lot of sun...then let's dance.
You won't be able to test the link out ahead of time, but this is the one I was emailed - http://www.mtectracking.com/Mtrack?raceid=95 (bib #683). Since I am hard wired to not trust technology without testing first and they also say you can track via the mobile app I've been telling anyone if they have problems with this link race day then try that. Gun is Sunday at 7:30.
I had been warned about this, so I was prepared for it but things haven't felt right all week - "feeling like #### the more rested you get' is how a good friend of mine describes it, and she nailed it. I called my sports doc that fixed my hammy's and booked a tune-up massage. Just got back from it and am glad I scheduled it, he found some tightness around my spine in the middle of my back and more junk in my hammy's (nowhere near like it was before though). Everything feels much better now.
Now let's #### some #### up.
That's some super sleuth #### right there. Going all the way back to July to find it!Looks like MAC is running the Columbus Marathon. Good luck, take it easy the first half.
Yup. The taper was maddening for me last year as well. You'd think all that extra rest would leave you with springy legs and gobs of energy but no...not at all. It's the opposite. Just know that it ain't you, it's just taper madness. It's nothing to worry about. You'll be ready to roll when that gun goes off.
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Deliberately held way back on the first 80 miles or so