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SFBayDuck
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Juxtatarot
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@tri-man 47 How are things going with your injuries?
And, since I'm asking for updates, anyone know about Steve C? He hasn't been on Strava for a few weeks.
And, since I'm asking for updates, anyone know about Steve C? He hasn't been on Strava for a few weeks.
tri-man 47
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Well, the heel isn't healed. It's tight in the morning and after I've been sitting for a while. Much of the time, though, I rarely notice it. I still have a protrusion on the back of the heel, and I haven't run in about five weeks. Been working to stretch things out and doing strength work in the meantime. (1,000 push-ups last week!) I'm so torn on whether to be patient for another month or two or to go back to the doctor and take another look (maybe another x-ray to see how the bone spur is looking). After tomorrow, my schedule starts to free up big time for the winter break (after final exams), so that'll give me more time to stretch, do some work outs, and research my next course of action.Juxtatarot said:
TL
R - Not healed, but being patient.
FUBAR
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November:
B: ------ 0!
R: 30x / 40 hrs / 233.7 miles
S: 2x, 30 min, 1200 yards
ST: 8x
YTD:
B: 88x / 136 hrs / 2687 miles
R: 222x / 212 hrs / 1,514 miles
S: 70x / 54 hrs / 177,300 yds
ST: 69x
A little bit of a downswing from October but that was planned. Rocket city on Saturday, after that I might take the rest of the month off. They say it's wise to take a few weeks off each year, so maybe this year I'll actually do it. Or maybe I'll do a few hundred on the bike and make it to 3k on the year.
worrierking
Footballguy
Nice Mileage FUBAR.
Nigel
Footballguy
Awesome FUBAR 
I'm in the gym at work 75 min/day M - F at lunch, have not missed a day in months. Very lucky to have the set up we have here, 50 steps from my desk a gym twice as big and nice as any hotel gym I've ever been in, with showers and towel service. I'm probably in as good all around shape (strength/flexibility/cardio) as I've ever been but damn do I miss being able to quantify my effort in miles run.
I'm in the gym at work 75 min/day M - F at lunch, have not missed a day in months. Very lucky to have the set up we have here, 50 steps from my desk a gym twice as big and nice as any hotel gym I've ever been in, with showers and towel service. I'm probably in as good all around shape (strength/flexibility/cardio) as I've ever been but damn do I miss being able to quantify my effort in miles run.
SFBayDuck
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The North Face 50M Championship took place last Saturday here on the trails of Marin, with a ridiculously deep men's field (largely thanks to being one of only a handful of MUT races with prize money with $10K for first and $4K for 2nd). Zach Miller has risen to the top of the sport the past few years, and his racing style is to go out as hard as he can and try to hang on. His first couple of races people let him go because they figured "who's this guy, he'll come back to us". He won those races. So now, every race he's in sees a chase pack trying to stay with him which makes them so fun to watch or follow. He's blown up a couple of times, mostly at 100M distances, but more often than not the result is a win and CR.
Anyway, you can read the recap of the race at iRunFar if you want, but the tl;dr is that Zach had a one minute lead with about 3 miles to go and ended up winning by two minutes in 5:56:03. Take three minutes to watch him run this thing in.
Anyway, you can read the recap of the race at iRunFar if you want, but the tl;dr is that Zach had a one minute lead with about 3 miles to go and ended up winning by two minutes in 5:56:03. Take three minutes to watch him run this thing in.
Had seen the race recap and even video of him finishing, but not that extended version with the last 0.2mi. My. God. He's flying. Uphill. At mile 50. Those guys are just on another level that I can't even comprehend. If you had started me at mile 49.8 against Miller right there, he would've absolutely dusted me to the finish line. Thanks for posting.
MAC_32
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pbm107
Footballguy
What do you plan on wearing in those conditions? I'd much prefer 22 degrees at the start than the heat.
Ned
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pbm107
Footballguy
This would be my approach, but everyone is different. When I read FUBAR’s post for some reason I thought of this race report.
pbm107
Footballguy
jb1020
Footballguy
What HR Monitor do you guys suggest?
I thought I upgraded a few years ago from the chest strap to the Mio Link wrist strap, but I've had 2 of those crap out on me.
Does anyone use a watch that has the HR built in? With the holidays coming up I thought about getting the wife to get me the Garmin VivoActive.
I thought I upgraded a few years ago from the chest strap to the Mio Link wrist strap, but I've had 2 of those crap out on me.
Does anyone use a watch that has the HR built in? With the holidays coming up I thought about getting the wife to get me the Garmin VivoActive.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Clear without much wind (1-4mph).
Weather underground now says clear from today to Sunday, there had been rumors of snow Thursday. So that's positive.
I think I'll wear This. Or possibly the new running tights I bought, shorts, tech shirt and arm sleeves made from old wool army socks which I'll trash at some point. Probably an old microfleece cap I won't mind trashing. It's supposed to get to 31 by the time I'm done.
My 8yo is doing the mile an hour after I start - mom is not looking forward to being out there with him (she despises the cold).
As for the plan? It was to BQ. Start at 7:15 pace for the first 20, which would mean I'd have to maintain 8 for the last 10k.
Now, that's still the hope but I'm not as gung-ho.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I have the Garmin Fenix 3 HR. The HR monitor works pretty well most of the time, but every once in a while it'll have problems that seem to last for several runs (not picking up HR at all, or HR way too low). But overall I've been happy with it. I didn't think I'd care about the activity and sleep tracking, but even that is kind of interesting to look at on occasion.
Ned
Footballguy
You're going to get a few different responses, but I don't think you can go wrong with any of the big brands that have added the built-in HRM to their lineup. Choose what looks best to you and run with it.
I bought the TomTom when they first came to market and have had very few issues with it. It's been a rock solid, no nonsense kind of watch. I like chasing the new toys, but this one has been so good to me I can't see wasting the money going for the newer bells/whistles.
jb1020
Footballguy
Thanks for the replies. Felt naked going out for my first long run in a while without the HR monitor.
I coudl care less about wearing the thing 24/7, but the Vivoactive has the HR monitor and the ability to change between run, swim, bike and even golf. Seems like a no brainer.
I have the Garmin 220 now not having a bike function kinda blows.
I coudl care less about wearing the thing 24/7, but the Vivoactive has the HR monitor and the ability to change between run, swim, bike and even golf. Seems like a no brainer.
I have the Garmin 220 now not having a bike function kinda blows.
pbm107
Footballguy
For the HRM only, DC Rainmaker is recommending the Scosche Rhythm+. For the basic HRM watch it's the Garmin Vivoactive HR.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
Rode last night in 45 degree mist. That was... interesting.
I have a Mio Link. Wrist based instead of forearm based. It has worked well for me the last few years - another option. I'll never go back to a chest strap.
El Floppo
Footballguy
hfs.
I do love seeing my old running ground- used to head out from my folks' house in sausalito, up to wolfback ridge and then either down and around towards cronkhite or over to the GG and back along the waterfront and back up. both were nice routes, about 7-10 miles with lots of elevation.. and usually some good wildlife (bobcats galore).
oh- went out for another couple miles in the NigelHokas. continued praise to the man for his generosity.
my legs used to carry a lot of muscle memory (soccer, college and semi-pro with a 10 year break before tris).. the rest of me might be feeling a lot of rust, but the legs would always be chomping at the bit. at 48 and 9 years since my last race (NYC marathon), even my legs are angy (like the sea). this is going to take more work to get back into things.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Yup, beautiful trails up there indeed. I need to get down there more, really didn't run in the Headlands at all this year.
Ned
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
I have the scosche strap but eventually upgraded my garmin 220 to a 225 that has a built-in HR monitor. There are so many good options for watches with built-in monitors these days that I couldn't really endorse any after market monitor. Just buy a new watch if you got the cash.
FUBAR
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
wait... huh?
less than 45 gets rid of the lance armstrong weekend warriors that clog all the roads. used to loooove riding in cold weather.
Sand
Footballguy
Lower limit is about 40. Beyond that it's no fun - I can't keep my fingers and toes warm. 45 wasn't bad at all.
Advantage of my Mio Link - that with a Garmin 310 lets me get HR while swimming. All those built ins turn the HR off in swim mode.
BTW, the common wisdom that HR is suppressed in the water is bull####, in my experience. Those efforts that feel like I'm pegging the meter are indeed pushing my HR up to max.
MAC_32
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You're going to get a variety of answers. For me...
Under 20 ---> jog 30-45 mins and be done with it, time doesn't matter.
20-60 --> Would rather not race, but fine for training. On the lower end probably won't do anything over an hour though. Snow amounts and wind usually say more about what I do on these days than the suck.
60-80 --> I think I like it, but I honestly don't know. The road conditions I loosely eluded to before are often tricky when in this suck range. If they're fine it's good training weather, but having such limited experience racing in this zone I'll defer to someone else.
80-110 --> the wheel house.
110-140 --> Fine for training, sub optimal for racing, especially anything longer than about an hour and a half. On the low end it shouldn't impact shorter races, but it catches up to me once getting near an hour.
140-160 --> Awful for racing, ok for training. I seem to be in the minority in this zone though, especially the 150's.
160-170 --> see the under 20 zone earlier
over 170 --> just go to the pool
JShare87
Footballguy
Awesome. Thank you! Suck index = temp plus dew point, correct? Is there a good dew point site you use? Or do you just add the temp and humidity together?
Sand
Footballguy
Yep - I find a huge difference between 140 and 160. 140 is ok. 150 is tough. 160 is just brutal. Anything approaching 160 and I just eat bon bons.
MAC_32
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Sand
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Ned
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I agree it's a bell curve for sure, but mine differ a bit...Totally spit balling the colder ranges.
< 60 = No doubt performance will be affected. You're likely going to be layered up, which may be restricting. I'm also convinced your body is using energy to keep your core warm just like it would be trying to cool you off if it was too hot. By how much? I don't know and don't really want to find out.
60-70 = A bit too cold and probably lower performance (based on training only - I don't think I've raced in this cold)
70-110 = no excuses type of weather. Go get yourself a PR. Nice big range where weather won't be a factor.
111-120 = Probably won't affect performance, but need to start thinking about hydrating (I sweat a lot).
121-130 = Humidity is probably going to start being a problem, but won't be uncomfortable. Definitely out of the 'perfect' zone.
131 - 140 = Now you're going to start being affected. Hydration becoming important.
141 - 150 = Definitely slow you down - HYDRATE!
151+ = Forget about it. Just finish the run without killing yourself.
< 60 = No doubt performance will be affected. You're likely going to be layered up, which may be restricting. I'm also convinced your body is using energy to keep your core warm just like it would be trying to cool you off if it was too hot. By how much? I don't know and don't really want to find out.
60-70 = A bit too cold and probably lower performance (based on training only - I don't think I've raced in this cold)
70-110 = no excuses type of weather. Go get yourself a PR. Nice big range where weather won't be a factor.
111-120 = Probably won't affect performance, but need to start thinking about hydrating (I sweat a lot).
121-130 = Humidity is probably going to start being a problem, but won't be uncomfortable. Definitely out of the 'perfect' zone.
131 - 140 = Now you're going to start being affected. Hydration becoming important.
141 - 150 = Definitely slow you down - HYDRATE!
151+ = Forget about it. Just finish the run without killing yourself.
mr. furley
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about 22, 23 here right now with appx 20 mph winds and sun setting.
about to lace em and hit the street
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Alabama
Brony
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For those on strava, you may have seen my attempts at doing some semblance of running. Wasn't planning on doing this, but I've been having a minor, but persistent ankle problem through most of the year unrelated to running. After 6+ months of that thing not healing, I went to my chiro / mechanics guy and after 2 treatments, he referred me to a running specialist in downtown Chicago who specializes in running and different release techniques.
Though it sucks to fight traffic and go to the city each week, I'm having a go at it again and he wants me to run again. The derangement ankle was fixed with a release/pop by him, followed by tons of ankle plantar flexion stretches at the home/office. Now the ankle is ~100% which is really good. Next up is to work on my calf and today was step 1 with the MD. Today was an intense ART therapy in the calf. There weren't tears in my eyes, but it was close. next steps include work on remodeling the calf/hamstring through dynamic stretches. We'll see what happens.
I've been running over the past month, slowly upping the mileage while working that plantar flexion stretch. I'm up to 2 to 3 miles in a run and don't have much pain the next day. Whatever's been done to date has reduced the dull pain I would get in my calf the day after a run. Pain that I've endured for the past 3 to 25 years depending on how you look at it. I still have tons of tightness down the hamstring post run and we'll be hoping to improve that. Running now makes my inner quad tremendously sore so it's good to see other muscles starting to fire.
We'll see where this goes. I've lost track of how many times I've started a rehab journey, so I have very modest expectations, but I like that this particular MD is doing something different. No particular goals in mind at the moment, other than seeing if I can get to 4 or 5 miles without complications in that one stupid part of my body that won't cooperate.
I did pick a dumb time of year to start this - running in the complete dark on icy paths is, well, pretty dumb.
Though it sucks to fight traffic and go to the city each week, I'm having a go at it again and he wants me to run again. The derangement ankle was fixed with a release/pop by him, followed by tons of ankle plantar flexion stretches at the home/office. Now the ankle is ~100% which is really good. Next up is to work on my calf and today was step 1 with the MD. Today was an intense ART therapy in the calf. There weren't tears in my eyes, but it was close. next steps include work on remodeling the calf/hamstring through dynamic stretches. We'll see what happens.
I've been running over the past month, slowly upping the mileage while working that plantar flexion stretch. I'm up to 2 to 3 miles in a run and don't have much pain the next day. Whatever's been done to date has reduced the dull pain I would get in my calf the day after a run. Pain that I've endured for the past 3 to 25 years depending on how you look at it. I still have tons of tightness down the hamstring post run and we'll be hoping to improve that. Running now makes my inner quad tremendously sore so it's good to see other muscles starting to fire.
We'll see where this goes. I've lost track of how many times I've started a rehab journey, so I have very modest expectations, but I like that this particular MD is doing something different. No particular goals in mind at the moment, other than seeing if I can get to 4 or 5 miles without complications in that one stupid part of my body that won't cooperate.
I did pick a dumb time of year to start this - running in the complete dark on icy paths is, well, pretty dumb.
mr. furley
Footballguy
you know what sucks? 20+ mph westerly headwinds for a couple miles.about 22, 23 here right now with appx 20 mph winds and sun setting.
about to lace em and hit the street
