If I’m reading it right, it looks like the 50K is actually 8,290’/2,527 meters of elevation gain. So almost exactly what you’ve done on one day already. That’s more elevation than most of the 50Ks I’ve run....so sounds perfect!There's no reason I can't do both, right?
Well there are lots of reasons the 50K could be a problem. But those aside, this looks like a possible plan:
I just signed-up for this St. Patrick's Day 10K (races in Calgary in Jan-Apr are both dicey weather-wise and hard to find), and I'm eyeing The Slay the Dragon 50K in BC. @SFBayDuck, how would that one be for a 50K noob like me? Elevation (1600m/5200ft) far less than my one-day PR (2580m/8500ft) and the goal would be to just finish (rather than run/race, per your suggestion). Also a friend of mine is up for it too, which would make it even more fun.
My 50K options are limited by the timing of the Calgary Marathon (26May) and the Moose Mountain 29K (24Aug), both of which I'm excited about. This 50K sits nicely between the two (29Jun).
Nice work today! I would like to sponsor your application to the BMF Club!Ok... I'd like to submit my formal application to be admitted to the FBG BMF Running Club. I've felt plenty included in the community so far but between my 6.6 mile run in 20* weather Saturday and going outside on the truly mean streets of the East Side of Indy today at lunch, I feel ready to humbly request to to from Associate Member to Full Membership and to acquire all the rights and privileges associated therewith.
Not sure if I experienced a runners high or if that was just a contact buzz from the fine gentlemen I passed along side the road, but I think I really am hooked again rather than a passing fad. Had a nice 5 mile jaunt through town instead of trudging along the treadmill and was really wishing I had the time to keep on going.
So much fun!
Area right around work isn't all that great - technically one of the higher crime districts. Not one of those things were I've ever felt threatened or anything but I wouldn't just "hang out" here at night either. Lots of drug use and poverty in the area. General area is on the news regularly for someone getting shot, etc.gruecd said:Nice work today! I would like to sponsor your application to the BMF Club!
Is the east side pretty rough? I did notice a surprisingly high number of homeless people downtown when I was there for the marathon.
Same here. Sinuses going nonstop.Seems I've picked up a cold in the last few days. Awesome.
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Does that mean it might actually hit 130?I'll probably see my heart rate suffer a bit since it goes quickly but with two months left before the marathon I don't think I need to worry about that.
Rest today, drug up tonight, speed tomorrow?Welp, the cold has settled in big time. Body achy today and sinuses just packed. My wife and kids have had this, and so far have been able to avoid it until now.
I usually get one bad sinus infection each winter, and this is it. So....will probably have to hit the doctor on the way home for some stronger drugs. I don't think there is any way I can do a speed workout today. Very bummed about that as my goal was to not have to skip a training run. But with a scheduled rest day tomorrow, I may have to.
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Yeah, I thought of that. If it comes to that I will have to do speed tomorrow, then an easy day Thursday, then my tempo run Friday so I don't do two speed workouts back to back.Rest today, drug up tonight, speed tomorrow?
I'm surprised by a lot of this - I'm obviously no pro but 6 weeks for a 'minor tear' does not sound right. I suppose it could be due to two separate tears, but generally speaking if you're looking at a timeline like that it's grade two - which is not minor.So, after many weeks of no running I finally broke down and went to the orthopedist. Diagnosis - no structural damage and most likely a minor tear of 1or 2 of the hamstring muscle. Bicep femoris PT for 6 weeks and oral steroids for a week. In hindsight, I guess I should have done this weeks ago but I've never thought it was bad enough to warrant PT but shows how dumb I am.
And the most interesting thing was the ortho asked me if I had been stretching it and I told him I was advised to not stretch a hamstring issue (I didn't say by my dorky internet friends) - so I wasafter he told me that. I'm guessing it depend on the type of hamstring pull/tear/issue???
Maybe minor is not the right wording - the only thing I know he said for sure was that my knee was structurally sound, the X-rays looked good and it was not a full tear. I will say when he examined it and pressed in there was quite a bit of discomfort, which surprised me a little - if you look at this pic the image on the right is what I'm facing. The x's is wear I have some minor discomfort and some swelling and then the red circle is more painful (occasionally a small burning sensation) and the right side of the red circle is wear it hurt pretty good when he mashed on it.I'm surprised by a lot of this - I'm obviously no pro but 6 weeks for a 'minor tear' does not sound right. I suppose it could be due to two separate tears, but generally speaking if you're looking at a timeline like that it's grade two - which is not minor.
Didn't realize there was so much crime in Indy. I did some Googling after posting this yesterday, and I see it ranked pretty regularly in the top 10-15 highest-crime cities in the U.S....Area right around work isn't all that great - technically one of the higher crime districts. Not one of those things were I've ever felt threatened or anything but I wouldn't just "hang out" here at night either. Lots of drug use and poverty in the area. General area is on the news regularly for someone getting shot, etc.
Downtown definitely has a number of homeless people - a lot of truly homeless ones as well as a lot of panhandlers as well. My wife actually works as a nurse in a day shelter/medical clinic that works with the homeless around town. There's even more truly homeless around than actually see. They do a ton of work with a number of "villages" around the city. Kind of a bummer if you think about it too much.
Seems like it's time to let 'er go...I'm leaning toward ending my streak. (I've run every day since July 21.) Not only the weather has been stressing me out, other stuff has too and I just feel done. I'm thinking about taking off until Saturday which will be in the 30s finally. I have some groin and hamstring issues so the rest might do some good.
Good thing for you - you have dozens of previous marathon experiences to draw back on to get you though those challenging periods. This sorta thing contributed to my failed first BQ attempt. And is one reason why I am not planning on one in Fall. We have two week long vacations this summer and at least one long weekend. I'm not willing to devote the time and energy necessary to fit in adequate training amidst vacation. I'll probably workout every day, but on our own terms. I intend to identify a Fall racing goal sometime in the neighborhood of the last vacation, but what exactly will be heavily influenced on what I had accomplished the previous couple of months.Got my schedule last night from Coach for weeks 5-8 of my training cycle for Carmel. I've got two long weekend trips coming up, one business and one pleasure, and it's gonna require some real creativity/dedication to fit everything in. At least one Thursday long run, a couple of stupid early starts, etc. Work trips are one thing, but vacations are especially hard. Going to LA/SF for my wife's birthday in early March, and as much as I hate being selfish and leaving for an hour or two to run when we're on vacation, I don't want to miss a run, either. So I'll try to do my 18-mile long run on Thursday before we leave, and then I'll get up super early to do my other runs while she (hopefully) sleeps.
It's also about the 16th largest city in the US so the rate isn't completely out of the ordinary. Also, there are definitely differences depending on what area you are in. Work is right in one of the highest crime areas. But you don't have to go very far to get out of the "problem area". As a matter of fact, the run I did yesterday was an out and back - I went about a 1/2 south and then 2 miles east. The last mile or so "out" was in a pretty nice suburban area. It is only a really bad area for about 3/4 of a mile out. Once I crossed the first main road, the area is much newer and less "urban".Didn't realize there was so much crime in Indy. I did some Googling after posting this yesterday, and I see it ranked pretty regularly in the top 10-15 highest-crime cities in the U.S....
Good luck.Got my schedule last night from Coach for weeks 5-8 of my training cycle for Carmel. I've got two long weekend trips coming up, one business and one pleasure, and it's gonna require some real creativity/dedication to fit everything in. At least one Thursday long run, a couple of stupid early starts, etc. Work trips are one thing, but vacations are especially hard. Going to LA/SF for my wife's birthday in early March, and as much as I hate being selfish and leaving for an hour or two to run when we're on vacation, I don't want to miss a run, either. So I'll try to do my 18-mile long run on Thursday before we leave, and then I'll get up super early to do my other runs while she (hopefully) sleeps.
There may not be a run I enjoy more than a few miles on the beach. I credit myself with more miles than actually ran because it requires extra effort to run on sand than pavement (kinda like the snow) and each run is different - one day do sunrise, another day sunset, and others intentionally wait until the eye candy has made their way out for the day.Funny the talk on vacations... I just booked a family vacation for this summer. One of the things I'm kind of excited about it logging a run or 2 while there. However, we have booked a nice, lazy family vacation. There will be a couple of day trip type things but lots of time just laying around on the beach and eating seafood! Going for a morning run before the lazy should be fun.
Hahahahaha. Yep, not sure if you were around here yet, but I ran Carmel last year, too. Staying in Carmel on Friday night and then moving to downtown Indy for Saturday night so my buddy and I can celebrate post-race!Good luck.
I have clicked the buttons yet, but I'm about 99% sure I'm going to run the 1/2 at Carmel. For the record, Carmel is an uppity side of Indy, so you should be safe there!![]()
Yeah, fitting in all the runs won't be nearly as challenging as managing to not piss off my wife in the process...Good thing for you - you have dozens of previous marathon experiences to draw back on to get you though those challenging periods. This sorta thing contributed to my failed first BQ attempt. And is one reason why I am not planning on one in Fall. We have two week long vacations this summer and at least one long weekend. I'm not willing to devote the time and energy necessary to fit in adequate training amidst vacation. I'll probably workout every day, but on our own terms. I intend to identify a Fall racing goal sometime in the neighborhood of the last vacation, but what exactly will be heavily influenced on what I had accomplished the previous couple of months.
Nope... wasn't around then. I only showed up when I started this journey back in October-ish of this past year.Hahahahaha. Yep, not sure if you were around here yet, but I ran Carmel last year, too. Staying in Carmel on Friday night and then moving to downtown Indy for Saturday night so my buddy and I can celebrate post-race!
Click the button.Good luck.
I have clicked the buttons yet, but I'm about 99% sure I'm going to run the 1/2 at Carmel. For the record, Carmel is an uppity side of Indy, so you should be safe there!![]()
You should probably run an 18 mile cool down.Most of all, I jumped back into Boston training this morning with a 4x1200 interval workout. Thrilled I was able to do my 1200's at 5:52/mile pace just a couple days after a marathon.
With the party you have listed above, how can I refuse? I actually just had to confirm a couple of schedule things at home. Now I just have to fill out the form. Maybe I'll do that this afternoon...Click the button.
We just need @gianmarco to sign up. He's only 4 hours from there.With the party you have listed above, how can I refuse? I actually just had to confirm a couple of schedule things at home. Now I just have to fill out the form. Maybe I'll do that this afternoon...
What's your goal for Boston? I'm hoping to run 2:57-2:58 at Carmel (a much faster course than Boston), and I'm not running intervals that fast...Most of all, I jumped back into Boston training this morning with a 4x1200 interval workout. Thrilled I was able to do my 1200's at 5:52/mile pace just a couple days after a marathon. Hopefully I can walk tomorrow and crush my MP run on Thursday.
Totally. @gianmarco and I once had lunch and a beer together in downtown Indy. Been a while ago... need to do it again after a run, IMO.We just need @gianmarco to sign up. He's only 4 hours from there.
He's going to run it and then turn around and run back to the starting line.What's your goal for Boston? I'm hoping to run 2:57-2:58 at Carmel (a much faster course than Boston), and I'm not running intervals that fast...
Here is my issue, and its hard to admit. I'm not a great marathon runner.What's your goal for Boston? I'm hoping to run 2:57-2:58 at Carmel (a much faster course than Boston), and I'm not running intervals that fast...
Good question, per the Hansons tables it looks like 2:55-3:00.What's your goal for Boston? I'm hoping to run 2:57-2:58 at Carmel (a much faster course than Boston), and I'm not running intervals that fast...
Same here.However, I've never been able to run even close to my training paces.
Definitely need to get together for a pre-race photo or something! Where's everybody staying on Friday night? I highly recommend the Renaissance in Carmel (one of the host hotels). Very runner-friendly with a shuttle to the race on Saturday morning and guaranteed late (1pm) checkout afterwards.Man, it's gonna be a party at Carmel this year. This makes:
@gruecd
Me
@Juxtatarot
@The Iguana
Who else am I missing?