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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (6 Viewers)
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SFBayDuck
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If I’m reading it right, it looks like the 50K is actually 8,290’/2,527 meters of elevation gain. So almost exactly what you’ve done on one day already. That’s more elevation than most of the 50Ks I’ve run....so sounds perfect!
gruecd
Footballguy
Nice work today! I would like to sponsor your application to the BMF Club!
Is the east side pretty rough? I did notice a surprisingly high number of homeless people downtown when I was there for the marathon.
gianmarco
Footballguy
The gym where I go has a 1/10th mile track. I've yet to try it but gave it a quick whirl after doing some weights. Didn't have much time but did a quick mile and it wasn't bad or as mind-numbing as I thought it might be. Definitely better than the treadmill and the Garmin keeps the distance and pace pretty accurately as well. Ran the final lap at a faster pace and it picked it up just fine.
When temps hit below zero tomorrow, I think I'll give that a shot until things get better outside.
When temps hit below zero tomorrow, I think I'll give that a shot until things get better outside.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Area right around work isn't all that great - technically one of the higher crime districts. Not one of those things were I've ever felt threatened or anything but I wouldn't just "hang out" here at night either. Lots of drug use and poverty in the area. General area is on the news regularly for someone getting shot, etc.gruecd said:
Downtown definitely has a number of homeless people - a lot of truly homeless ones as well as a lot of panhandlers as well. My wife actually works as a nurse in a day shelter/medical clinic that works with the homeless around town. There's even more truly homeless around than actually see. They do a ton of work with a number of "villages" around the city. Kind of a bummer if you think about it too much.
Zasada
Footballguy
Same here. Sinuses going nonstop.Seems I've picked up a cold in the last few days. Awesome.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
0 degrees this morning but with the wind it "feels like" -15. Got up early (barely slept last night) and drove to my ####ty gym. Lights were on but no cars were in the parking lot. I think they were open. However, their parking lot was poorly plowed from the snow yesterday. My car is terrible is the snow and I know it would have been a ##### getting out of the lot if I went in. Decided to go back home.
We have a high of -15 tomorrow with a low of -26 (with winds of 20 mph too). Thursday will be similarly cold.
I'm leaning toward ending my streak. (I've run every day since July 21.) Not only the weather has been stressing me out, other stuff has too and I just feel done. I'm thinking about taking off until Saturday which will be in the 30s finally. I have some groin and hamstring issues so the rest might do some good. I'll probably see my heart rate suffer a bit since it goes quickly but with two months left before the marathon I don't think I need to worry about that.
But who knows. Maybe I'll change my mind and run this evening. Keeping the streak was my main goal for the year since I knew if I did that, success in races should follow. But I must admit that forcing oneself to go on a long streak is kind of stupid.
We have a high of -15 tomorrow with a low of -26 (with winds of 20 mph too). Thursday will be similarly cold.
I'm leaning toward ending my streak. (I've run every day since July 21.) Not only the weather has been stressing me out, other stuff has too and I just feel done. I'm thinking about taking off until Saturday which will be in the 30s finally. I have some groin and hamstring issues so the rest might do some good. I'll probably see my heart rate suffer a bit since it goes quickly but with two months left before the marathon I don't think I need to worry about that.
But who knows. Maybe I'll change my mind and run this evening. Keeping the streak was my main goal for the year since I knew if I did that, success in races should follow. But I must admit that forcing oneself to go on a long streak is kind of stupid.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Damn. Those conditions and resting the little issues are sound reasons to end a streak (says the guys whose streak is 5 or 6). I still have the high hammy/groin thing that aches in a way that is not right. Might be time to dial up some more electro shock treatment. With my wife traveling and weird school sched and damned lunch meetings, I am reshuffling my week and no run till thurs probably.
Also, when you head out later for a shorty, take is extra easy please.
@Juxtatarot
Also, when you head out later for a shorty, take is extra easy please.
@Juxtatarot
pbm107
Footballguy
@Juxtatarotscrew the streak, I get that consistency is important but life happens. I don't know if taking off until Saturday is the right answer, but a cutback week wouldn't be the worst thing in the world considering your last sub 60 mile week was back in November. You're in really good shape right now with an opportunity for a breakout race in 2 months, enjoy the ride.
The Iguana
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
I had every intention to run sometime today, but it got just warm enough yesterday to rain before the temp's bottomed out and now everything is iced over. It started snowing a little earlier and it's supposed to continue, so I'm hoping we get enough to cover enough of it. 11 and feels like -6 isn't gonna be fun, but it's better than the dreadmill. We'll see if I have to come to terms with the hamster wheel sometime later today...
Like many (including @Juxtatarot!), rest day tomorrow - assuming the college closes anyway. If they surprise me and open I'll lift and continue my own streak, but with -30 wind chills I just can't see this place opening. Fully expecting pajamas with pancakes and bacon about this time tomorrow though.
Like many (including @Juxtatarot!), rest day tomorrow - assuming the college closes anyway. If they surprise me and open I'll lift and continue my own streak, but with -30 wind chills I just can't see this place opening. Fully expecting pajamas with pancakes and bacon about this time tomorrow though.
Zasada
Footballguy
@Juxtatarot I'd hate to see your streak end, but a friend of mine had a 200+ day streak going and then got injured. Been battling that injury for almost a year now. No certainty, but he attributes his injury to slavishly pushing the streak and I think he regrets it.
That said, everyone is different, with different motivations. I'll continue to
to you if you continue but only you know you and if it's time to rest some injuries, that's the smarter play.
That said, everyone is different, with different motivations. I'll continue to
to you if you continue but only you know you and if it's time to rest some injuries, that's the smarter play.
Zasada
Footballguy
First day running for me today since Houston (had a hike over the weekend). I had two weeks of "taper" (almost 100% off trying to rest naggingly sore legs) pre-marathon and then 9 days of no running post-marathon.
-10C (14F), per the Tempe. Not much wind. Went with a double quarter-zip and tights approach and it was comfortable. Hands got a little cold despite gloves.
Effort-wise, it definitely felt harder this morning compared to when I was training. 5-minute KMs were nowhere on the radar. Kind of disappointing to have detrained some but that can be fixed. I'm sure my cold/congestion didn't help things, as well as having to poop for the last 5K. Actually had to walk for brief moments to keep myself from crapping my tights.
All that aside, it feels great to get out again. The road to my May marathon starts today!
-10C (14F), per the Tempe. Not much wind. Went with a double quarter-zip and tights approach and it was comfortable. Hands got a little cold despite gloves.
Effort-wise, it definitely felt harder this morning compared to when I was training. 5-minute KMs were nowhere on the radar. Kind of disappointing to have detrained some but that can be fixed. I'm sure my cold/congestion didn't help things, as well as having to poop for the last 5K. Actually had to walk for brief moments to keep myself from crapping my tights.
All that aside, it feels great to get out again. The road to my May marathon starts today!
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AAABatteries
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I think you've earned the right to run a circle in your home and count that towards the streak.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Welp, the cold has settled in big time. Body achy today and sinuses just packed. My wife and kids have had this, and so far have been able to avoid it until now.
I usually get one bad sinus infection each winter, and this is it. So....will probably have to hit the doctor on the way home for some stronger drugs. I don't think there is any way I can do a speed workout today. Very bummed about that as my goal was to not have to skip a training run. But with a scheduled rest day tomorrow, I may have to.
I usually get one bad sinus infection each winter, and this is it. So....will probably have to hit the doctor on the way home for some stronger drugs. I don't think there is any way I can do a speed workout today. Very bummed about that as my goal was to not have to skip a training run. But with a scheduled rest day tomorrow, I may have to.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Rest today, drug up tonight, speed tomorrow?Welp, the cold has settled in big time. Body achy today and sinuses just packed. My wife and kids have had this, and so far have been able to avoid it until now.
I usually get one bad sinus infection each winter, and this is it. So....will probably have to hit the doctor on the way home for some stronger drugs. I don't think there is any way I can do a speed workout today. Very bummed about that as my goal was to not have to skip a training run. But with a scheduled rest day tomorrow, I may have to.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
So, after many weeks of no running I finally broke down and went to the orthopedist. Diagnosis - no structural damage and most likely a minor tear of 1or 2 of the hamstring muscle. Bicep femoris PT for 6 weeks and oral steroids for a week. In hindsight, I guess I should have done this weeks ago but I've never thought it was bad enough to warrant PT but shows how dumb I am.
And the most interesting thing was the ortho asked me if I had been stretching it and I told him I was advised to not stretch a hamstring issue (I didn't say by my dorky internet friends) - so I was
after he told me that I should be. I'm guessing it depend on the type of hamstring pull/tear/issue???
And the most interesting thing was the ortho asked me if I had been stretching it and I told him I was advised to not stretch a hamstring issue (I didn't say by my dorky internet friends) - so I was
after he told me that I should be. I'm guessing it depend on the type of hamstring pull/tear/issue???
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ChiefD
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Yeah, I thought of that. If it comes to that I will have to do speed tomorrow, then an easy day Thursday, then my tempo run Friday so I don't do two speed workouts back to back.
Definitely a possibility if I feel better.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I'm surprised by a lot of this - I'm obviously no pro but 6 weeks for a 'minor tear' does not sound right. I suppose it could be due to two separate tears, but generally speaking if you're looking at a timeline like that it's grade two - which is not minor.So, after many weeks of no running I finally broke down and went to the orthopedist. Diagnosis - no structural damage and most likely a minor tear of 1or 2 of the hamstring muscle. Bicep femoris PT for 6 weeks and oral steroids for a week. In hindsight, I guess I should have done this weeks ago but I've never thought it was bad enough to warrant PT but shows how dumb I am.
And the most interesting thing was the ortho asked me if I had been stretching it and I told him I was advised to not stretch a hamstring issue (I didn't say by my dorky internet friends) - so I was
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Maybe minor is not the right wording - the only thing I know he said for sure was that my knee was structurally sound, the X-rays looked good and it was not a full tear. I will say when he examined it and pressed in there was quite a bit of discomfort, which surprised me a little - if you look at this pic the image on the right is what I'm facing. The x's is wear I have some minor discomfort and some swelling and then the red circle is more painful (occasionally a small burning sensation) and the right side of the red circle is wear it hurt pretty good when he mashed on it.
https://www.physio-pedia.com/images/thumb/3/35/BF_TrP_Referral.png/496px-BF_TrP_Referral.png
mr. furley
Footballguy
i'm one of those people who picked up Born to Run and sailed through it. had to follow up on some of the people mentioned in the story. don't read the spoiler if you have the book but haven't read it, or if you intend to pick up the book.
gruecd
Footballguy
Didn't realize there was so much crime in Indy. I did some Googling after posting this yesterday, and I see it ranked pretty regularly in the top 10-15 highest-crime cities in the U.S....
gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Got my schedule last night from Coach for weeks 5-8 of my training cycle for Carmel. I've got two long weekend trips coming up, one business and one pleasure, and it's gonna require some real creativity/dedication to fit everything in. At least one Thursday long run, a couple of stupid early starts, etc. Work trips are one thing, but vacations are especially hard. Going to LA/SF for my wife's birthday in early March, and as much as I hate being selfish and leaving for an hour or two to run when we're on vacation, I don't want to miss a run, either. So I'll try to do my 18-mile long run on Thursday before we leave, and then I'll get up super early to do my other runs while she (hopefully) sleeps.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Good thing for you - you have dozens of previous marathon experiences to draw back on to get you though those challenging periods. This sorta thing contributed to my failed first BQ attempt. And is one reason why I am not planning on one in Fall. We have two week long vacations this summer and at least one long weekend. I'm not willing to devote the time and energy necessary to fit in adequate training amidst vacation. I'll probably workout every day, but on our own terms. I intend to identify a Fall racing goal sometime in the neighborhood of the last vacation, but what exactly will be heavily influenced on what I had accomplished the previous couple of months.
The Iguana
Footballguy
It's also about the 16th largest city in the US so the rate isn't completely out of the ordinary. Also, there are definitely differences depending on what area you are in. Work is right in one of the highest crime areas. But you don't have to go very far to get out of the "problem area". As a matter of fact, the run I did yesterday was an out and back - I went about a 1/2 south and then 2 miles east. The last mile or so "out" was in a pretty nice suburban area. It is only a really bad area for about 3/4 of a mile out. Once I crossed the first main road, the area is much newer and less "urban".
There are several other similar areas around town where one side of a main road is much different than the other. I technically live in the city but am basically in the suburbs of it.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Good luck.
I have clicked the buttons yet, but I'm about 99% sure I'm going to run the 1/2 at Carmel. For the record, Carmel is an uppity side of Indy, so you should be safe there!
The Iguana
Footballguy
Funny the talk on vacations... I just booked a family vacation for this summer. One of the things I'm kind of excited about it logging a run or 2 while there. However, we have booked a nice, lazy family vacation. There will be a couple of day trip type things but lots of time just laying around on the beach and eating seafood! Going for a morning run before the lazy should be fun.
MAC_32
Footballguy
There may not be a run I enjoy more than a few miles on the beach. I credit myself with more miles than actually ran because it requires extra effort to run on sand than pavement (kinda like the snow) and each run is different - one day do sunrise, another day sunset, and others intentionally wait until the eye candy has made their way out for the day.
gruecd
Footballguy
Hahahahaha. Yep, not sure if you were around here yet, but I ran Carmel last year, too. Staying in Carmel on Friday night and then moving to downtown Indy for Saturday night so my buddy and I can celebrate post-race!Good luck.
I have clicked the buttons yet, but I'm about 99% sure I'm going to run the 1/2 at Carmel. For the record, Carmel is an uppity side of Indy, so you should be safe there!
The Iguana
Footballguy
And one more post... this one actually on running. Did my first attempt at an interval type run today. That was fun. I set it up for more of a long interval with lots of time to recuperate. Will have to look into how I really want to do the next one but this one was fun.
I ran a 1/2 mile "off" at 10 min/mile (X5) and 1/2 mile "on" at 7:05 min/mile (X4) on the treadmill. A few notes:
Fun... fun... fun!
I ran a 1/2 mile "off" at 10 min/mile (X5) and 1/2 mile "on" at 7:05 min/mile (X4) on the treadmill. A few notes:
- my race pace for the 1/2 marathon less than 3 months ago was 9:57 per mile. That was my rest pace here and was plenty of rest.
- 8.5 mph or 7:05 miles seemed like my "eyes were too big" when I entered it but running a half mile at that pace was more than doable, even on the 4th one.
- HR would go up to about 160ish, pretty consistent. Recovery rate was 130 to 140
Fun... fun... fun!
gruecd
Footballguy
Yeah, fitting in all the runs won't be nearly as challenging as managing to not piss off my wife in the process...
The Iguana
Footballguy
Nope... wasn't around then. I only showed up when I started this journey back in October-ish of this past year.
fixed. October of this year is still off a bit...
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ChiefD
Footballguy
Man, it's gonna be a party at Carmel this year. This makes:
@gruecd
Me
@Juxtatarot
@The Iguana
Who else am I missing?
@gruecd
Me
@Juxtatarot
@The Iguana
Who else am I missing?
ChiefD
Footballguy
Click the button.Good luck.
I have clicked the buttons yet, but I'm about 99% sure I'm going to run the 1/2 at Carmel. For the record, Carmel is an uppity side of Indy, so you should be safe there!
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Thanks guys on the Strava kudos on the Miami Marathon. Let me start off by saying the scenery at this race was absolutely fantastic....and I'm not talking about the water, beaches, sand and sun. My lord...but I was pacing so I couldn't easily bib stalk. But I'll see what I can find in the coming days as they gave us a bunch of free pics in this race.
It was a fun race, but not as fun as a smaller race. The first half I was pacing both half marathoners and marathoners. It seems easy, but trying to motivate the HMers while keeping the marathoners feeling good wasn't easy.
Hard to tell the HMers, they are near the end and in the next breath, tell the marathoners "Only 14 miles to go!".
It was also REALLY muggy, so it was a sweatfest even though I wasn't racing.
That being said, I added my splits to Sunday's Strava post and the boss wanted us to run a bit slower the first 5-6 miles and then get our pace dialed in for the last 20 and I was able to successfully do that by keeping them all within 8:31-8:33 the rest of the way. Thanks for your support!
Most of all, I jumped back into Boston training this morning with a 4x1200 interval workout. Thrilled I was able to do my 1200's at 5:52/mile pace just a couple days after a marathon. Hopefully I can walk tomorrow and crush my MP run on Thursday.
It was a fun race, but not as fun as a smaller race. The first half I was pacing both half marathoners and marathoners. It seems easy, but trying to motivate the HMers while keeping the marathoners feeling good wasn't easy.
Hard to tell the HMers, they are near the end and in the next breath, tell the marathoners "Only 14 miles to go!".
It was also REALLY muggy, so it was a sweatfest even though I wasn't racing.
That being said, I added my splits to Sunday's Strava post and the boss wanted us to run a bit slower the first 5-6 miles and then get our pace dialed in for the last 20 and I was able to successfully do that by keeping them all within 8:31-8:33 the rest of the way. Thanks for your support!
Most of all, I jumped back into Boston training this morning with a 4x1200 interval workout. Thrilled I was able to do my 1200's at 5:52/mile pace just a couple days after a marathon. Hopefully I can walk tomorrow and crush my MP run on Thursday.
ChiefD
Footballguy
The Iguana
Footballguy
With the party you have listed above, how can I refuse? I actually just had to confirm a couple of schedule things at home. Now I just have to fill out the form. Maybe I'll do that this afternoon...
ChiefD
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
What's your goal for Boston? I'm hoping to run 2:57-2:58 at Carmel (a much faster course than Boston), and I'm not running intervals that fast...
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The Iguana
Footballguy
Totally. @gianmarco and I once had lunch and a beer together in downtown Indy. Been a while ago... need to do it again after a run, IMO.
ChiefD
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Here is my issue, and its hard to admit. I'm not a great marathon runner.
Last year, I trained for 7:08 and eventually ran 7:26 pace at Pocono (net downhill course)... admittedly, it was a muggy day.
However, I've never been able to run even close to my training paces. I think some is nutrition. Some has been weather and if I can get ideal conditions, maybe I turn it around. And I'm tweaking my taper slightly to give myself another couple days of rest this time. Maybe at my age (48), I need a little more time to recover before race day. Currently, Hanson's last MP run is 10 days before the race. I'm moving it to 12-13 days before the race this year for Boston.
To answer your question, I'm trying to train at 6:52-6:55 pace for marathon and will hopefully run around 7:10-7:15 pace in the race.
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pbm107
Footballguy
pbm107
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Definitely need to get together for a pre-race photo or something! Where's everybody staying on Friday night? I highly recommend the Renaissance in Carmel (one of the host hotels). Very runner-friendly with a shuttle to the race on Saturday morning and guaranteed late (1pm) checkout afterwards.
