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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (9 Viewers)

What are you going to wear for the race?
S.O.P. Too many clothes to warm up. Too little to race - tank, shorts, knee high socks, gloves, head band, and a dum dum. I'll wear a hoodie to the start line to stay warmish then dump it a minute before the gun and hope it's still there after. 

No wires or phone this time though. 

 
2020 Creve de Coruerevsrerr St Paddys Day 10 Days Early Which Really Explains St. Louis Half Marathon Race Report

GOTCHA!!

So, obviously this race was never on the calendar until last week. We are in St Louis for a hockey tournament, so @gianmarco and I started texting last week about this possibility. I had to run 12 anyway, so what’s 1 more?

The hockey schedule worked out perfectly in that we didn’t have a game until 12:30 today, so had all morning to run. So it was a go. Of course we talked about the shtick factor the last ten days, and that was the best we came up with. I blame Yan for what came of it.

So this report will be more observations instead of my performance. I was just looking for a training run since my A race is in a month. I knew mrs. gian was shooting for 1:48 or less to get some positive juju before marathon training started, so my plan was to run with them as long as possible and see what happened.

My cycle has been frustrating, and that discussion is for another day. But at this race, I hung for about 9 miles or so, and decided to pull back at that point because I didn’t want to destroy my plan A. So the last 4 miles were just a beautiful jog on a beautiful day.

So random observations:

1. I get there early and need to do a final dump. I choose a port-a-potty, and I do something that has probably never been done in this thread - I PICK A BRAND NEW PRISTINE ONE. I am giddy in there. There is nice clean blue water on the bottom - no butts have touched that seat. I am basking in my glory and I sit down. I glance over to the toilet paper and realize they have not been opened yet. I literally laugh out loud as I imagine @gruecd shredding that thing like a honey badger.

Since I am a civilized human, I easily unwrap the paper and leisurely finish my business. 

2. The course was a beautiful paved trail through a river bottom, so there was plenty of scenery and the course was relatively flat. I let Jan pace us, and he definitely did it differently than I would have, but it was fine. I was there just to hang and talk to him, so I really didn’t care about the pace. I was just running and Yan paced it perfectly, as indicated by his finish. He and his wife are in better shape than me at this point, and the results showed. They killed it.

3. There were only 3 port-a-pottys on the whole route. Thank God my colon held up.

4. My favorite part of this race was Yan pacing his wife. He was doing his best to keep her under wraps a bit so she wouldn’t blow up too early. But I could tell she was just ready to go. After about mile 5 she started creeping up and up, since myself and Yan spent the first 5 shielding her from pretty brisk wind. But about mile 5 or so she had enough. She took off. And I told her at the end: “that was awesome that you did that. It was impressive that you knew you had more in you and just took it.” That was the highlight of my day - seeing her totally crush her PR her race goal. She is positioned perfectly for the marathon.

5. A final note about Gian - he was in total control all day. He had a huge PR as well and didn’t even look spent at the end. He has so much more in him - so HIS marathon is going to be so bad-###. I am so excited to watch these two progress over the next few months and culminate into success in July.

We had a beer at the end and will meet up later for a few more. Sons hockey team is 2-0 and in line to play for a championship tomorrow.

A wonderful day.

 
That was the highlight of my day - seeing her
"I'll take 'Lines out of context for $800, Alex.'"

But really, it's very cool that you could hook up with the Marco's for the race!  For all the grind we put up with, it's so neat when we have runs like you had today, especially when you can share it with friends.  Memories that endure ...

 
"I'll take 'Lines out of context for $800, Alex.'"

But really, it's very cool that you could hook up with the Marco's for the race!  For all the grind we put up with, it's so neat when we have runs like you had today, especially when you can share it with friends.  Memories that endure ...
I'll add my report later on, but one of the things I was really thankful for with @ChiefD being there is that it served to calm her down. 

Mentally, during a race, she's a rock. Leading up to it..... not so much. But she won't show that with others around and she was able to just do her thing without worrying like she did all week whether or not she could do her thing.

 
So random observations:

1. I get there early and need to do a final dump. I choose a port-a-potty, and I do something that has probably never been done in this thread - I PICK A BRAND NEW PRISTINE ONE. I am giddy in there. There is nice clean blue water on the bottom - no butts have touched that seat. I am basking in my glory and I sit down. I glance over to the toilet paper and realize they have not been opened yet. I literally laugh out loud as I imagine @gruecd shredding that thing like a honey badger.

Since I am a civilized human, I easily unwrap the paper and leisurely finish my business. 
:lmao:

 
Can the person who strava’s outside of Annapolis, MD PM me?  My niece at the academy is taking up triathlon and looking for bike routes.  Tia!
Shot you a message. Love running down through there. Will try to find out to good road routes the bike crews like around here. The local trails are good but maybe not fast/long enough for the big rides. 

 
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1. I get there early and need to do a final dump. I choose a port-a-potty, and I do something that has probably never been done in this thread - I PICK A BRAND NEW PRISTINE ONE. I am giddy in there. There is nice clean blue water on the bottom - no butts have touched that seat. I am basking in my glory and I sit down. I glance over to the toilet paper and realize they have not been opened yet. I literally laugh out loud as I imagine @gruecd shredding that thing like a honey badger.

Since I am a civilized human, I easily unwrap the paper and leisurely finish my business. 
Listen, a$$hole.  ;)

1.  My situation was mid-race, not a la-di-da leisurely pre-race poop

2.  I wasn't talking about unwrapping the roll, but rather getting the unwrapped roll started

3.  Try doing #2 (no pun intended) when your hands are freezing and you've lost all dexterity in your fingers

 
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Listen, a$$hole.  ;)

1.  My situation was mid-race, not a la-di-da leisurely pre-race poop

2.  I wasn't talking about unwrapping the roll, but rather getting the unwrapped roll started

3.  Try doing #2 (no pun intended) when your hands are freezing and you've lost all dexterity in your fingers
Who wastes time wiping mid-race?   :unsure:

 
Last Sunday was my long run of 4.5 and Monday i did my tempo run of 5k. I didn't like doing those back to back. 

After that I did 4 miles of MAF running every day from Tuesday to Friday and started a little slower than I had been before (5.7 instead of 6 or 6.1 mph) which put me closer to 135 than 140 bpm for most of the run.  I wanted to see if 135 helps me improve more and also because I've been increasing my milage it seemed like a good idea to avoid injury.  My legs were getting heavy by Friday.  

Saturday was a planned rest day.  

Sunday was my new long run of 5 miles.  Started at 6.1 for a mile, then 5.7 for a mile, then 5.5 for half mile,  5.3 for a mile, 5.0 for a mile and then as usual i finished strong at 7mph for the final half mile.  Total was a bit under 54 minutes for 5 miles.  I still had enough left in the tank to have gone faster earlier but i didn't feel like my legs wanted to go much longer.  So I am interested to see how my speed looks this week when i do my tempo 5k. 

I think I'm going to stay at 4 miles for my standard daily distance this week and keep my next long run at 5 miles instead of increasing again.  I'm not training for anything specific and I'm happy enough with the distance I'm going now. I think my legs were plenty tired last week and have no interest in risking an injury.  Using my hypervolt on my it band, quads, calves and pirifornis as well. 
Two weeks later

5 miles

First mile 6mph (6.1 before)

Second mile 5.7 (5.7 before) 

Third mile 5.5 (5.5 for .5 miles then 5.3)

Fourth mile 5.3 (5.3 then 5.0)

Finished at 8mph (finished at 7)

Overall feel much better finishing the same distance now.  Settling in at a long run of 5 miles for a couple weeks probably kept me from getting hurt because i was definitely feeling fatigued.  I took a couple rest days this week too and feel better for having done it. 

Looking forward to my 5k this week to see if it is helping at all, then I'll probably tackle 5.5 next week for my long run.  

 
2020 Creve Coeur St. Paddy's Half Marathon Race Report

For a race report, there won't be a ton to go over in this from a racing standpoint, but this was really a wonderful day for so many reasons.  As you guys already know now, in a last minute turn of events @ChiefD was coming into town this weekend and I was able to convince him to run the race with us.  The schedule worked out perfectly for him to be able to do so and I was really looking forward to it.  We really had so many ways we wanted to shtick it up and, in the end, I'm not sure we chose the best one, but here we are.

The temps and sun were glorious.  Unfortunately, the wind played a little bit of a factor and this part of the city is in a valley where the wind is higher than other spots.  I only live about 15 minutes from the race site and I'm familiar with the area as my wife and I have run there quite a few times.  It was also a later start time at 8:30am so really no need for much commotion in the morning.  Slept pretty decently, I was up at 6am, did like a 3 minute jog outside, did some beet juice, then had an easy breakfast with yogurt/jam/honey as well as a banana.  Business done at home, loaded up, and out the door at almost 7:30.  Met up with Chief, gave him his bib which he asked me about 17 times the day before to make sure I had it including a request for photographic proof, and then just took it easy until race start.  I was planning on a 10 minute jog to warm up but that never took place.  Starting temp was almost 40 degrees and would be getting up to 45ish by race end, so shorts and a t-shirt it was.  I did wear gloves to start but those came off after a little bit.  Chief doesn't like the cold as much so he was rocking some long pants and a couple tops, representing KC with his Royals shirt.  More on that later.  We move into the start area near the front and pretty soon we're off.

Mile 1 -- 8:13 pace (HR 146)

The most relaxed start to any race I can ever remember.  Just kind of floated along with the other runners and this felt like a warm up jog to start.  I was in front with Chief and my wife behind.  After like 30 seconds, Chief yells to me "Don't worry, Yan, we're back here".  I realized I hadn't even looked back to see how close they were so I just chuckled and we settled into a nice little trio.  Chief and I in front with my wife tucked in behind us.  We kept this formation for most of our time together.  It's pretty quiet at race start, no one is talking except for us and we're just laughing it up.  My wife has her Trekz headphones on and when she's responding to us she's talking REALLY loud and doesn't even realize it.  More laughs from me and Chief.  Everyone else must have thought we were obnoxious.  Mile 1 ticks off uneventfully.

Miles 2-4 -- 8:09/8:08/8:10 (HR 159/160/163)

For some reason, the GPS was getting a little wonky here, mostly in mile 2 and a little in mile 3.  I had my watch on lap mode to see our mile pacing and at one point it showed us slowing to close to 8:20, so I would pick it up and then it jumped to like 8:07.  This happened a couple times going back and forth for some reason.  If you look at our pacing, we jumped around a little trying to lock it in.  So while I was trying to keep us close to 8:15 or a shade below, we ended up coming in a little bit faster.  However, having run with my wife enough, I could tell she was really comfortable so I decided to just stick with it and not try to slow down too much just to get us back to 8:15.  Aside from a little climb early in mile 3, this is a pretty flat section.  Chief is doing well even though I could tell he was putting in decent effort.  I figured he may struggle staying with us towards the end but I was enjoying his company at this point and was trying to keep it as relaxed as possible.  At this point, he also realizes he needs to take off one of his layers.  Shirts was coming off, I'm holding stuff for him, and surely my wife's HR was spiking while he's there shirtless.  Mine spiked a little too, I'll admit.

Mile 5 -- 8:16 (HR 164)

This is the start of a gradual but steady uphill over a freeway overpass that lasts about a mile.  As Chief alluded to earlier, he's used to slowing on uphills and picking up the pace on downhills.  That's how I always paced as well until @gruecd destroyed me in the 15K making me push hard and hold pace on uphills.  Since then, I've trained the same way pushing hard on all uphills.  As a result, my HR doesn't spike as much anymore going up.  On this uphill, my HR remained in the 160's but I could tell this wasn't good for Chief.  Also, at this point, is when my wife decided to work her way ahead.  There was the 1:50 pacer (8:24 pace) that was running about 50-100 ft ahead of us all this time.  We were talking about how this guy was going WAY too fast for that pacing.  We were actually wondering if he was the 1:40 pacer instead.  My wife went up and caught up with him and chatted for a little while I stayed back with Chief.  This was where I was telling him how she has no discipline, can't hold it back, etc.  He was loving it, I wasn't.  Nevertheless, I decided to stay back with Chief for right now and would work on catching up to her later.  I knew there was a steep decline coming up soon, going down to the river, and then the same short but very steep incline getting back up to the road.  So I briefly split the difference between Chief and my wife and figured I'd let Chief catch up to me on the decline ramp.

Mile 6-7-- 8:11/8:05 (HR 162/165)

End of the uphill and then the sharp downhill to the river edge trail.  Sure enough, Chief comes flying down and we join up again.  My wife is ahead of us by a little.  We hit the turn around, I actually slipped on the gravel going around the cone, but caught myself on my hands and got right back up.  Chief is just a little bit behind me.  We're coming up to the big incline soon in mile 8 and I know this is where I'm going to leave Chief and catch back up to my wife.  That's why my mile 7 split was a bit faster as I started to try and close the gap to her a little bit.  In hindsight, I should have let Chief know what I was planning, but he caught on and then finished his race the way he needed to.  But I knew he'd understand.  I also took my one GU at this point as I knew there was a water station at the top of the climb.

Mile 8 -- 8:24 (HR 170)

Right near the beginning of this is the sharp climb back up.  It's a 100 ft climb over about 2/10ths of a mile.  I hit this ramp hard.  I actually picked up my pace and even finished the climb at a sub 8:00 pace.  I caught my wife just before the top.  Part of why I wanted to make sure I got to her then was because I wanted her to stop and drink water at this station.  We get to the top, my legs were burning a bit and I could tell my HR was probably close to 170.  Of note, I never once looked at my HR the whole race.  I didn't care what it was.  Surprisingly, looking back, my HR stayed pretty constant on that climb, which is a great sign for me. Anyway, we get to the top and a little tired and I make her stop and walk for 10-15 seconds with the water.  That's the dip you see in the pacing on Strava and why this mile split was slower.  But, I wanted to make sure I got water in with my GU and I wanted her to realize she can do this and still be ok.  She's even telling me this is the first time she's ever walked at an aid station.  We finish our water and get back going.  The next mile and a half is a nice downhill so we can recover as we make our way back. 

Miles 9-10 -- 8:09/8:13 (HR 170/173)

We get to the flat section again and we're approaching our landmark mile 10 before we can pick it up for the finish.  Except the wind has picked up considerably and is kicking our ###.  Just a strong 15-20 mph headwind.  I get my wife to run behind me this whole length as I'm shielding the wind for her.  For the first time in the race, I feel my effort having to pick up.  I realized at that point that the first 8 miles felt really, really comfortable for me.  It was barely an uncomfortably comfortable through 8.  Here it switched to what I would expect a race effort to feel like, mostly because of this wind.  We are by ourselves at this point with no one really ahead of us or behind us.  We curse the wind a few times and then I see mile 10 marker coming up.  Time to see how we can finish

Mile 11/12/13 -- 8:01/7:47/7:58 (HR 171/174/171)

I didn't even say anything but we start going faster and next thing I know my wife is slowly starting to float away from me.  And I'm sitting there watching her and just enjoying the hell out of it.  My legs are starting to feel a bit tired.  I don't know if it's residual from my 5K from last week or working so hard on the climb or not doing a double digit mile run in over 2 weeks, and probably a combination of all of it, but I was putting in a solid effort just to do the paces I did.  Truth be told, if I had a PR I was chasing or this was a goal race, I definitely had more in me to push harder.  I could have probably kept up with her giving that kind of effort but I had a great day so far and realized I was completely satisfied where I was.  A combination of letting her do it on her own at the end and not trashing my legs with a full-out effort kept me where I was.  Despite that, we both started racking up some kills here at the end.  Along the same line, I wasn't passed by anyone after about mile 3 or so except for one guy during the last mile when I slowed a little bit.  That was an awesome feeling.

Anyway, the end of the race is coming around the lake so you can see the finish from almost 2 miles away as you're running to it.  Good and bad.  But I knew this was a successful race and it kept me going to the end.

Mile 13.1 -- 6:41 (HR 172)

I didn't kick until the last 1/10th of the mile.  A little bit of a poosay move but it's ok.  I looked back and saw this guy was trying to gain on me and pass me at the end as I was slowing a little in that last half mile.  That wasn't going to happen so I had plenty left for a surge to close it out.  But, felt great enough to actually smile as I approached the finish, not even close to having to pass out, and felt as good as I've felt at the end of a race.  Not the way you're supposed to do it for full effort, but great feeling for how I approached this day.  I saw my wife recovering and I knew she worked really, really hard at the end.  Probably her best end of race performance ever. 

Final -- 1:46:33 (8:08 pace)

79th/534, 10th in AG

Set my HM PR although it wasn't going to be difficult to beat my previous 1:55:40. 

Thrilled with how that race went and how it felt throughout.  So happy for my wife who was over the moon yesterday.  So glad @ChiefD was able to join us out there.  I had a blast running with him.  And, I felt more tired and spent after my 5K last week than yesterday's effort, which is a good sign overall.

Afterward, got to play a little poker then went out to watch Little Chief play some hockey, score a goal and get a beautiful assist then join then back at the hotel for a couple beers and some pizza.  Meeting the rest of the family was fantastic and they are all not surprisingly wonderful.  It's not often you get to meet and get to know good people and this thread is just a haven for that. 

Thanks again for following along in our journey and helping every step of the way.  Superb day yesterday.

I'm not sure if I'm going to race the HM at the end of the month at this point.  I'll see how I feel and how things go the next couple of weeks.  I know I can get that number down a little, but not sure I need to just yet.  I'm ready to start working on our goal race.  We shall see....

 
Well la di da, I'm just going to sign up for this HM, even though I didn't really bother tapering at all and I'm going to invite my good iFriend to join me and not worry about a warm up and basically chaperone my wife and iFriend on their race like I'm some kind of @gruecd running with some noob on a 15K and through the whole race I could have told anyone the story of my life it was so easy and when the wind picked up I blocked it for her and then let her pass me like it was no big deal because I'm not really trying but then near the end some rando tried to pass me and I'm like "do you think I'm some kind of pooosay" and I turned on the guns to make sure that didn't happen and then crossed the finish line with a 9+ minute PR and it felt like I had barely run 5K and now I'm like I don't need to race my next HM because its really not that important since I know I could beat this PR it was so easy so why not just focus on a full marathon where I'll probably bring my crochet gear so I can knit some gloves for @JShare87 during the race it will be so easy.

 
Well la di da, I'm just going to sign up for this HM, even though I didn't really bother tapering at all and I'm going to invite my good iFriend to join me and not worry about a warm up and basically chaperone my wife and iFriend on their race like I'm some kind of @gruecd running with some noob on a 15K and through the whole race I could have told anyone the story of my life it was so easy and when the wind picked up I blocked it for her and then let her pass me like it was no big deal because I'm not really trying but then near the end some rando tried to pass me and I'm like "do you think I'm some kind of pooosay" and I turned on the guns to make sure that didn't happen and then crossed the finish line with a 9+ minute PR and it felt like I had barely run 5K and now I'm like I don't need to race my next HM because its really not that important since I know I could beat this PR it was so easy so why not just focus on a full marathon where I'll probably bring my crochet gear so I can knit some gloves for @JShare87 during the race it will be so easy.
:slow clap:

 
 I'm dumb and bad at tapering.

Did my 4 yesterday with good intent towards the 1/2 next Sunday (if it happens), and followed the plan.

Daylight savings and a trip to the vet screwed up my usual buddy run where I knew we'd go 7+ at conversational 9-9:30s. Just got back from the same 7+, but I went at what I thought would be tempo race pace instead. Why? Stupid is why.

7.31m , 57:36, 7:53/m

My Achilles thinks I'm a maroon.

Since I screwed this one up, what should my next 2-3 runs pre-race be? I'll try to listen...I promise.

 
 I'm dumb and bad at tapering.

Did my 4 yesterday with good intent towards the 1/2 next Sunday (if it happens), and followed the plan.

Daylight savings and a trip to the vet screwed up my usual buddy run where I knew we'd go 7+ at conversational 9-9:30s. Just got back from the same 7+, but I went at what I thought would be tempo race pace instead. Why? Stupid is why.

7.31m , 57:36, 7:53/m

My Achilles thinks I'm a maroon.

Since I screwed this one up, what should my next 2-3 runs pre-race be? I'll try to listen...I promise.
You won't gain any fitness at this point for the potential race next week.  This week is all about letting your legs recover and get fresh but without getting sluggish.  Run the same number of times you normally do but just cut the volume some.

Slow/easy recovery run tomorrow, 3-5 miles (whatever is an easy volume for you).  As you don't normally run a lot during the week, probably rest Tuesday.  Wednesday, do the same 3-5 miles except maybe ~mile at goal pace to remind you what it feels like.  If your legs/body aren't having it, don't worry about it.  2-3 easy miles Thursday.  Rest Friday.  Couple really easy miles with some strides on Saturday.  Crush souls on Sunday.  Wala.

Without knowing your normal weekly routine, that's just a guess and should work. And if any of it is hard or hurts, then skip it. Better being healthy at the start line even if you have to take most/all of the week off.

 
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 My Achilles thinks I'm a maroon.

Since I screwed this one up, what should my next 2-3 runs pre-race be? I'll try to listen...I promise.
I have a sore, tight Achilles, so color me purple also.

As noted, you can't gain (and really won't lose) fitness, so focus on being healthy.  If anything, do some walking to keep the Achilles loose without stressing it (your biking to work might accomplish this).

 
I have a sore, tight Achilles, so color me purple also.

As noted, you can't gain (and really won't lose) fitness, so focus on being healthy.  If anything, do some walking to keep the Achilles loose without stressing it (your biking to work might accomplish this).
And eccentric heel drops. It helps.

 
And eccentric heel drops. It helps.
No idea what that is...but I've got PT scheduled Tues and Thurs, so I think I'll be in a good place.

It felt good to let the hounds loose a little, but my memory of tapering was much more mellow. Was just hoping I didn't tire the legs out for next Sunday...if there is a race next Sunday.

Plus your race inspired me. It's better getting my runs in first thing so I don't have to read race reports and get "inspired".

Also better because it's so crowded where I run during the day. Morning is fine, but mid day on a pretty day was packed out there. Reminded me of the Dodge and weave u had to do for NYC years ago.

I also foolishly looked up some of my old times from the Tris and handful of running races I did all those years ago when I was fit. And young. And smart enough not to try compare myself to when I was even younger and fitter.

 
No idea what that is...but I've got PT scheduled Tues and Thurs, so I think I'll be in a good place.

It felt good to let the hounds loose a little, but my memory of tapering was much more mellow. Was just hoping I didn't tire the legs out for next Sunday...if there is a race next Sunday.

Plus your race inspired me. It's better getting my runs in first thing so I don't have to read race reports and get "inspired".

Also better because it's so crowded where I run during the day. Morning is fine, but mid day on a pretty day was packed out there. Reminded me of the Dodge and weave u had to do for NYC years ago.

I also foolishly looked up some of my old times from the Tris and handful of running races I did all those years ago when I was fit. And young. And smart enough not to try compare myself to when I was even younger and fitter.
Heel drop

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No idea what that is...but I've got PT scheduled Tues and Thurs, so I think I'll be in a good place.

It felt good to let the hounds loose a little, but my memory of tapering was much more mellow. Was just hoping I didn't tire the legs out for next Sunday...if there is a race next Sunday.

Plus your race inspired me. It's better getting my runs in first thing so I don't have to read race reports and get "inspired".

Also better because it's so crowded where I run during the day. Morning is fine, but mid day on a pretty day was packed out there. Reminded me of the Dodge and weave u had to do for NYC years ago.

I also foolishly looked up some of my old times from the Tris and handful of running races I did all those years ago when I was fit. And young. And smart enough not to try compare myself to when I was even younger and fitter.
Do these twice per day. 20-30 times each heel that is bothering you

 
@gianmarco - now that you just la-di-da'd a 1:46 HM, are you convinced that you are at least as fast as I am, if not faster? I've been convinced for some time despite your denials. 

 
@gianmarco - now that you just la-di-da'd a 1:46 HM, are you convinced that you are at least as fast as I am, if not faster? I've been convinced for some time despite your denials. 
As competitive as I am with lots of things, trying to be faster than you or anyone else in here is the last thing I care about. 100% truth. 

I'm not in any kind of denial. I've had some soft goals and hit them and some lofty goals and missed them (some spectacularly). I try to be pretty realistic and I feel at this point I've got a good feel for what I can do.  The calculators have generally been on point for me as well.

Yesterday was not a la-di-da effort even though I had a good race.  My HR of 170+ from mile 8 on can attest to that.  I definitely have a faster time in me, but, the truth is, it's not THAT much lower than what I did yesterday. As @JShare87 said earlier, I'm probably capable of 7:45-7:55, which is about 1:42:00 at best. That would be a tough effort as well. The calculators I've looked at are in the same range.  

I'm glad you and others think I'm capable of so much more, and maybe some day that might be the case, but even with all that, it really doesn't matter. I'm going to keep trying to train smart, keep racing when it works out, and keep giving my best effort when I can. And I'm doing all that for me.

It's not any denial.  I'm as big a fan of shtick as anyone here, but beyond that, I truly don't care how fast I am compared to you or anyone else. 

 
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As competitive as I am with lots of things, trying to be faster than you or anyone else in here is the last thing I care about. 100% truth. 

I'm not in any kind of denial. I've had some soft goals and hit them and some lofty goals and missed them (some spectacularly). I try to be pretty realistic and I feel at this point I've got a good feel for what I can do.  The calculators have generally been on point for me as well.

Yesterday was not a la-di-da effort even though I had a good race.  I definitely have a faster time in me, but, the truth is, it's not THAT much lower than what I did yesterday. As @JShare87 said earlier, I'm probably capable of 7:45-7:55, which is about 1:42:00 at best. That would be a tough effort as well. The calculators I've looked at are in the same range.  

I'm glad you and others think I'm capable of so much more, and maybe some day that might be the case, but even with all that, it really doesn't matter. I'm going to keep trying to train smart, keep racing when it works out, and keep giving my best effort when I can. And I'm doing all that for me.

It's not any denial.  I'm as big a fan of shtick as anyone here, but beyond that, I truly don't care how fast I am compared to you or anyone else. 
100% the right approach. Keep up the good work, brotha! 👊🏼

 
As competitive as I am with lots of things, trying to be faster than you or anyone else in here is the last thing I care about. 100% truth. 

I'm not in any kind of denial. I've had some soft goals and hit them and some lofty goals and missed them (some spectacularly). I try to be pretty realistic and I feel at this point I've got a good feel for what I can do.  The calculators have generally been on point for me as well.

Yesterday was not a la-di-da effort even though I had a good race.  I definitely have a faster time in me, but, the truth is, it's not THAT much lower than what I did yesterday. As @JShare87 said earlier, I'm probably capable of 7:45-7:55, which is about 1:42:00 at best. That would be a tough effort as well. The calculators I've looked at are in the same range.  

I'm glad you and others think I'm capable of so much more, and maybe some day that might be the case, but even with all that, it really doesn't matter. I'm going to keep trying to train smart, keep racing when it works out, and keep giving my best effort when I can. And I'm doing all that for me.

It's not any denial.  I'm as big a fan of shtick as anyone here, but beyond that, I truly don't care how fast I am compared to you or anyone else. 
Wish I had this mindset a few years ago.

 
It's not any denial.  I'm as big a fan of shtick as anyone here, but beyond that, I truly don't care how fast I am compared to you or anyone else. 
I truly meant that as a complement to your effort. Seeing people in here crush goals and smash races like you have the last couple of weekends is important to me. It totally motivates me to keep working hard to try to achieve my goals. 

All this is about a personal challenge and everyone's goals and motivations are different. It brings me great joy to see you run like you have. I have no idea what you are capable of or what you really want to do going forward. Whatever it is, I'm sure you will succeed.

I just really hated seeing you "sell yourself short". I felt highly confident you had that kind of race in you, and while it wasn't a "walk in the park", you totally crushed it with an amazingly consistent effort.

I don't think of any of it as a direct competition - i.e. it's not a "I win, you lose" kind of thing. But seeing you go out there and crush it, makes me excited and motivated to go out this coming weekend and "give it all I've got". 

 

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