Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

[Gator Shawn]

Ran the last two nights. Suck Index over 160 both times. I got a HRM Sunday and used it for my last two runs. I was surprised at how low my HR was given the level of exertion I felt.

Last night, it was just me, https://www.strava.com/activities/371440121/heartrate

Tonight, I was escorting my 12-year old as he embarked on the Couch 2 5K. So it was run/walk for 20 minutes. Then I ran another mile or so on my own. https://www.strava.com/activities/372204727/heartrate

What do I take away from that? I guess I plan to just keep hitting it for 40-45 minutes a session and try to go further and further distance until I'm doing 3 miles consistently then start upping the distance.

My short term goal is 5K (next 2 month)

medium term is Sprint Tri (Next 6 months)

long term is 70.3 Ironman (Next 18 months)

 

[Ned]

'sup, fellas?

Ned, what are you training for? Your MP run looked insane.

I'm as heavy as I've ever been, usually run 4 or 5 miles on Saturday and Sunday each weekend, average about 9:30 per mile. Pretty grim. Going to try to get it going one more time.

On the bright side, my son's Cross Country season will start soon and I'm looking forward to that. He ended up averaging about 35 miles per week this summer - not super high, but high school races are only 5K and he started mixing in some pretty good speed work once he got his weekly mileage above 25. He's looking like the #1 guy on the team, but that's only because he's a senior. Everyone else is very young and the team's looking at a rough season in their conference. I've told him his mission is to at least beat the other team's #3 guy in every meet and stave off the automatic defeat, but I think there will be at least a couple of races where the opponent finishes 1-2-3. Still, he's in really good shape and I'm excited to see what he's able to do.

I will try to keep up (in the thread, though certainly not any runs in my current state of fitness). Looks like a lot of great stuff happening here.

Glad to see you around, GB! Crazy to think that The_Man_Jr is a senior already! Does he have a shot at breaking 18 this year?

I'm training for the Via Marathon on 9/13. Taking a stab at improving my BQ so I don't have to sweat the cutoff.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Ran the last two nights. Suck Index over 160 both times. I got a HRM Sunday and used it for my last two runs. I was surprised at how low my HR was given the level of exertion I felt.

Last night, it was just me, https://www.strava.com/activities/371440121/heartrate

Tonight, I was escorting my 12-year old as he embarked on the Couch 2 5K. So it was run/walk for 20 minutes. Then I ran another mile or so on my own. https://www.strava.com/activities/372204727/heartrate

What do I take away from that? I guess I plan to just keep hitting it for 40-45 minutes a session and try to go further and further distance until I'm doing 3 miles consistently then start upping the distance.

The general advice here for people new to using a heart rate monitor is just to collect the data for at least a few weeks and then try to make sense of it later. People here will love to help you with that. It's a good sign that your HR wasn't sky high but we don't know your max yet so we're lacking context to truly understand. You mention that you were surprised by how low your HR was, but you were in the high 150s near the end. If your max is on the low side of runners here like me (180ish) that is a fairly hard effort.

 

[Hang 10]

Juxt, I think you were right about the heart rate monitor. I feel like I need to make it tight as hell...almost uncomfortably tight for it to effective in the first mile. Is that your experience?

 

[The_Man]

'sup, fellas?

Ned, what are you training for? Your MP run looked insane.

I'm as heavy as I've ever been, usually run 4 or 5 miles on Saturday and Sunday each weekend, average about 9:30 per mile. Pretty grim. Going to try to get it going one more time.

On the bright side, my son's Cross Country season will start soon and I'm looking forward to that. He ended up averaging about 35 miles per week this summer - not super high, but high school races are only 5K and he started mixing in some pretty good speed work once he got his weekly mileage above 25. He's looking like the #1 guy on the team, but that's only because he's a senior. Everyone else is very young and the team's looking at a rough season in their conference. I've told him his mission is to at least beat the other team's #3 guy in every meet and stave off the automatic defeat, but I think there will be at least a couple of races where the opponent finishes 1-2-3. Still, he's in really good shape and I'm excited to see what he's able to do.

I will try to keep up (in the thread, though certainly not any runs in my current state of fitness). Looks like a lot of great stuff happening here.

Glad to see you around, GB! Crazy to think that The_Man_Jr is a senior already! Does he have a shot at breaking 18 this year?

I'm training for the Via Marathon on 9/13. Taking a stab at improving my BQ so I don't have to sweat the cutoff.

He better be breaking 18 early on! In all honesty, I don't know. He hasn't been timing himself, just been focusing on miles and effort (though not Heart Rate). He ran an 18:00 in a 3-mile race to end last season and he's so much more fit now, so I'm hopeful.

Can't remember if I ever broke 18 or not myself. 17:48 sticks in my head but I'm not sure.

Great job on your training. My last shot at running the Boston Marathon with my Mother-in-Law still living in my wife's childhood home (right at the foot of the descent from Heartbreak Hill) is looking like 2017. Ugh. Just realized that means I need to run a BQ within the next 13 months or so. Now that I'm 46, just have to match my PR of 3:20 to run a BQ -5. Unfortunately, 5 miles twice a week at a 9:30 pace is pretty far from a 3:20 Marathon. Time to get out there!

 

[worrierking]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

 

[Hang 10]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

 

[Ned]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

The humidity was so bad my toes were totally fricken pruned up after today's 14 miler. I should've weighed myself before/after to see what I lost today. Crazy run.

 

[Hang 10]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

The humidity was so bad my toes were totally fricken pruned up after today's 14 miler. I should've weighed myself before/after to see what I lost today. Crazy run.

It is interesting to see when you and PBM get the same heat and humidity as I get down here. Not that I enjoy seeing you guys suffer but at least I'm not alone. I don't feel as badly about my efforts because I see solid runners struggling the same as I do. I have had to learn to live with a due point of 70 or higher almost all summer. Can't wait til we get some 50ish degree mornings.

 

[ChiefD]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Yeah, the high today is only going to be 72. So should be nice tonight when I run.

Heading to Illinois for a funeral this weekend, so not sure what the running plans will be. Will be out in the country, so gonna have to figure out how to squeeze an 18 miler in there. Ugh.

 

[FUBAR]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

yep. 75 degrees, 73 dew point on my ride this morning. Ate like Otis yesterday (office birthdays = big cake) which made this morning extra miserable.

3 day taper to Rocket Man!

 

[Juxtatarot]

Juxt, I think you were right about the heart rate monitor. I feel like I need to make it tight as hell...almost uncomfortably tight for it to effective in the first mile. Is that your experience?

It's tight but not so much it hurts or restricts circulation. I remember experimenting with arm position when I first got it. (I wear it about 3/4 up the forearm with the monitor on the outer side. I think different people may get best readings in different places.) I would keep an eye on the readings as I was getting ready for my run (dressing, tying shoes, filling water bottle, etc.) and noticed once I started getting good readings it would be fine for the whole run. I rarely think about it or have any issues any more.

 

[Nigel]

SI in 150s all week here in Humarock MA, on vacation for the week at the family beach house. I don't know how those of you who do so manage in this all summer.

10M this morning, 8:44/136, 78 degrees with dew point of 79 at 8am. Upside is that I finish these vacation runs with a plunge in the ocean followed immediately by an outdoor shower. Good start to the day.

 

[2Young2BBald]

'sup, fellas?

Ned, what are you training for? Your MP run looked insane.

I'm as heavy as I've ever been, usually run 4 or 5 miles on Saturday and Sunday each weekend, average about 9:30 per mile. Pretty grim. Going to try to get it going one more time.

On the bright side, my son's Cross Country season will start soon and I'm looking forward to that. He ended up averaging about 35 miles per week this summer - not super high, but high school races are only 5K and he started mixing in some pretty good speed work once he got his weekly mileage above 25. He's looking like the #1 guy on the team, but that's only because he's a senior. Everyone else is very young and the team's looking at a rough season in their conference. I've told him his mission is to at least beat the other team's #3 guy in every meet and stave off the automatic defeat, but I think there will be at least a couple of races where the opponent finishes 1-2-3. Still, he's in really good shape and I'm excited to see what he's able to do.

I will try to keep up (in the thread, though certainly not any runs in my current state of fitness). Looks like a lot of great stuff happening here.

Glad to see you around, GB! Crazy to think that The_Man_Jr is a senior already! Does he have a shot at breaking 18 this year?

I'm training for the Via Marathon on 9/13. Taking a stab at improving my BQ so I don't have to sweat the cutoff.

He better be breaking 18 early on! In all honesty, I don't know. He hasn't been timing himself, just been focusing on miles and effort (though not Heart Rate). He ran an 18:00 in a 3-mile race to end last season and he's so much more fit now, so I'm hopeful.

Can't remember if I ever broke 18 or not myself. 17:48 sticks in my head but I'm not sure.

Great job on your training. My last shot at running the Boston Marathon with my Mother-in-Law still living in my wife's childhood home (right at the foot of the descent from Heartbreak Hill) is looking like 2017. Ugh. Just realized that means I need to run a BQ within the next 13 months or so. Now that I'm 46, just have to match my PR of 3:20 to run a BQ -5. Unfortunately, 5 miles twice a week at a 9:30 pace is pretty far from a 3:20 Marathon. Time to get out there!

on your son. Have you discovered MileSplit or Athletic.Net? I bought the premium access in MileSplit as they have a huge analytic engine where you can see all kinds of rankings. Athletic.Net does some similar stuff for free, but its not as Y as MileSplit. If you'd like, PM me your son's name, school and if possible hie region or division and I can show you where he is ranked pre-season. My son, more so for track than XC, likes to see this from time to time as motivation (and a bit of ego I'd guess). For this XC season, my son has worked harder than any year prior with the intent to get in the 16s ASAP. He even willingly went to an XC camp which I would have never thought he'd do. He had to take off almost a week after having his wisdom teeth out, but seems to be rebounding quick.

 

[pbm107]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

The humidity was so bad my toes were totally fricken pruned up after today's 14 miler. I should've weighed myself before/after to see what I lost today. Crazy run.

It is interesting to see when you and PBM get the same heat and humidity as I get down here. Not that I enjoy seeing you guys suffer but at least I'm not alone. I don't feel as badly about my efforts because I see solid runners struggling the same as I do. I have had to learn to live with a due point of 70 or higher almost all summer. Can't wait til we get some 50ish degree mornings.

Yeah, today's run was brutal. It felt much worse than what is being reported on weather underground. Maybe I am just feeling the impact of a tough 4 day stretch in the schedule 20, 6 and 4 double, 10 with 4 at tempo, and then 15 today.

 

[Hang 10]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

The humidity was so bad my toes were totally fricken pruned up after today's 14 miler. I should've weighed myself before/after to see what I lost today. Crazy run.

It is interesting to see when you and PBM get the same heat and humidity as I get down here. Not that I enjoy seeing you guys suffer but at least I'm not alone. I don't feel as badly about my efforts because I see solid runners struggling the same as I do. I have had to learn to live with a due point of 70 or higher almost all summer. Can't wait til we get some 50ish degree mornings.

Yeah, today's run was brutal. It felt much worse than what is being reported on weather underground. Maybe I am just feeling the impact of a tough 4 day stretch in the schedule 20, 6 and 4 double, 10 with 4 at tempo, and then 15 today.

Yeah, I'm sure the weather plus the cumulative effect of all those workouts took it's toll. Hey, you're human. And I would be stoked if my numbers looked like that on a good day!

 

[Gator Shawn]

I want to get out and get a quick run in about 4PM, but it's 91 with 74 dewpoint. Ouch.

 

[The_Man]

on your son. Have you discovered MileSplit or Athletic.Net? I bought the premium access in MileSplit as they have a huge analytic engine where you can see all kinds of rankings. Athletic.Net does some similar stuff for free, but its not as Y as MileSplit. If you'd like, PM me your son's name, school and if possible hie region or division and I can show you where he is ranked pre-season. My son, more so for track than XC, likes to see this from time to time as motivation (and a bit of ego I'd guess). For this XC season, my son has worked harder than any year prior with the intent to get in the 16s ASAP. He even willingly went to an XC camp which I would have never thought he'd do. He had to take off almost a week after having his wisdom teeth out, but seems to be rebounding quick.

Thanks 2Y2BB. Maybe I'll take you up on that kind offer a little later in the season. Son ran very little last summer and was only finally beginning to turn into a decent runner at the very end of the fall season. So seeing where he ranks right now based on last season's results might well be demoralzing rather than inspiring.

Would be amazing if your son could break 17.

 

[2Young2BBald]

on your son. Have you discovered MileSplit or Athletic.Net? I bought the premium access in MileSplit as they have a huge analytic engine where you can see all kinds of rankings. Athletic.Net does some similar stuff for free, but its not as Y as MileSplit. If you'd like, PM me your son's name, school and if possible hie region or division and I can show you where he is ranked pre-season. My son, more so for track than XC, likes to see this from time to time as motivation (and a bit of ego I'd guess). For this XC season, my son has worked harder than any year prior with the intent to get in the 16s ASAP. He even willingly went to an XC camp which I would have never thought he'd do. He had to take off almost a week after having his wisdom teeth out, but seems to be rebounding quick.

Thanks 2Y2BB. Maybe I'll take you up on that kind offer a little later in the season. Son ran very little last summer and was only finally beginning to turn into a decent runner at the very end of the fall season. So seeing where he ranks right now based on last season's results might well be demoralzing rather than inspiring.

Would be amazing if your son could break 17.

Just let me know. Its also a great way to scout the competition before meets. I don't share it with my son, but its fun for me to plot virtually where scores should fall and see how close I get.

 

[MAC_32]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

That'd have been nice yesterday. I planned to do a two part recovery run between separate appointments, but said #### that after the first one. I still hiked with my clients, so I got more out of it than just 2 1/2 miles at 10+ minute pace in the trails but...that was fugly..

 

[Ned]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

The humidity was so bad my toes were totally fricken pruned up after today's 14 miler. I should've weighed myself before/after to see what I lost today. Crazy run.

It is interesting to see when you and PBM get the same heat and humidity as I get down here. Not that I enjoy seeing you guys suffer but at least I'm not alone. I don't feel as badly about my efforts because I see solid runners struggling the same as I do. I have had to learn to live with a due point of 70 or higher almost all summer. Can't wait til we get some 50ish degree mornings.

Yeah, today's run was brutal. It felt much worse than what is being reported on weather underground. Maybe I am just feeling the impact of a tough 4 day stretch in the schedule 20, 6 and 4 double, 10 with 4 at tempo, and then 15 today.

God I really need to get a shoe dryer ASAP. :X

 

[Hang 10]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

The humidity was so bad my toes were totally fricken pruned up after today's 14 miler. I should've weighed myself before/after to see what I lost today. Crazy run.

It is interesting to see when you and PBM get the same heat and humidity as I get down here. Not that I enjoy seeing you guys suffer but at least I'm not alone. I don't feel as badly about my efforts because I see solid runners struggling the same as I do. I have had to learn to live with a due point of 70 or higher almost all summer. Can't wait til we get some 50ish degree mornings.

Yeah, today's run was brutal. It felt much worse than what is being reported on weather underground. Maybe I am just feeling the impact of a tough 4 day stretch in the schedule 20, 6 and 4 double, 10 with 4 at tempo, and then 15 today.

God I really need to get a shoe dryer ASAP. :X

Yeah, I really enjoyed my recovery run this morning with a 153 SI. At times it seemed impossible to run slow enough to keep my heart rate down.

 

[Ned]

Same here (151). In my infinite wisdom I thought it'd be a good idea to do a progression run in this mess to simulate pushing on tired legs (after yesterday's 14). My stomach cramped up so bad at 4.5 I had to walk it off I at least was able to finish strong, but that was a kick in the nuts.

The amount of sweat I've produced this week :X

 

[AAABatteries]

146 here this morning - I only did 4.5 miles and my clothes were like they were fresh out of the washer. :X

ETA - I lost 1.9 lbs during that 4.5 miles

 

[SteveC702]

I am in for the league, but Tuesday 9/1 - Thursday 9/3 aren't great for me for drafting. I can auto draft is we are only doing it for bragging rights though

 

[Juxtatarot]

Below 60 degrees in Chicagoland this morning.

 

[ChiefD]

Awesome weather last night. Ran with my neighbor, who is also signed up for Chicago. She hasn't trained much, so we had to go slow. Was scheduled to go an easy 8, so she hung around for 6. Ended up running the last 2 at MP just cause I felt like running hard. Felt great.

So the first 6 was a pace of 11:33, but my HR was 131.

Last 2 were at 8:35 pace, with a HR of 166.

Wish I could have run the whole 8 at my normal pace, because I'm guessing I would have been somewhere in the 9's with a 140ish HR. But, the upside is I got to run with someone for the first time in a long time, so it was nice to have someone to talk to.

 

[worrierking]

Crap, two days in a row thunderstorms hit at 5:45 am and I missed another run. My opportunities are so limited these days, I am ticked. I am heading back to New Orleans tomorrow to be with my mom. My brother has been there for four days and we are swapping back. They are still trying to get her healthy enough to be sent back here (with mixed results).

I will bring running clothes and maybe even my HR strap in case I can get some runs in over there.

 

[FUBAR]

Awesome weather last night. Ran with my neighbor, who is also signed up for Chicago. She hasn't trained much, so we had to go slow. Was scheduled to go an easy 8, so she hung around for 6. Ended up running the last 2 at MP just cause I felt like running hard. Felt great.

So the first 6 was a pace of 11:33, but my HR was 131.

Last 2 were at 8:35 pace, with a HR of 166.

Wish I could have run the whole 8 at my normal pace, because I'm guessing I would have been somewhere in the 9's with a 140ish HR. But, the upside is I got to run with someone for the first time in a long time, so it was nice to have someone to talk to.

Those use to be some of my favorite runs. first 75% easy, push it at the end.

 

[tri-man 47]

Heading to Illinois for a funeral this weekend, so not sure what the running plans will be. Will be out in the country, so gonna have to figure out how to squeeze an 18 miler in there. Ugh.

Chief, where will you be in Illinois? (In case there's a chance we could catch a run.)

The_Man and 2Young, I look forward to hearing how the young'uns do this CC season!

Ned ...try the crumpled newspaper trick with your shoes. Put some in, then change it after 15-20 minutes (and again if needed). Of course, you can pull out the inner base lining, wash out the stink, and let that dry separately.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Props to you guys gutting out runs in those ridiculous conditions - 55 degrees and misty for my run this morning, pretty much perfect. Easy 2 miles to start and then hit my normal tempo segment of a gradual 1.7M climb up 454'. I haven't been wearing my HRM lately, but I know what my breathing is like at 165-175 as above that point I start to get a little gasp in my breathing pattern so I keep it just below that. My legs felt a little tired as I started but I decided to just knock it out, and ended up PRing it by 24 seconds. I'm still slow as hell (9:46 pace), but good to see that after years of doing nothing but easy running and always hiking the uphills that mixing in some higher intensity things the past 12 months or so is paying off just a little.

We'll see how that translates to race performance as I still don't know what I'm going to do this fall. I really wanted to get in my second 100M, but there's really only one option (Rio del Lago on Nov 7th) and I'm not sure scheduling will work. I could go back to the Firetrails 50M race on Oct 10th, a race I did in 2013 (gutting out the final couple miles to come in under 11 hours). In either case I'll probably mix in a 50K or two, as there are options there almost every weekend around here. I gotta get something locked up though as I know that will help me tighten up my diet and training focus.

 

[ChiefD]

Heading to Illinois for a funeral this weekend, so not sure what the running plans will be. Will be out in the country, so gonna have to figure out how to squeeze an 18 miler in there. Ugh.

Chief, where will you be in Illinois? (In case there's a chance we could catch a run.)

I will be in NW Illinois, near Freeport.

Gonna try and do 18 on Saturday. I do have a brother that lives in the Libertyville area, but we aren't staying with him this time. Usually we will stay there when we come that way.

 

[ChiefD]

I'll be in Boston for a conference the week of September 8th-11th. Will be staying within 2 miles or so of the end of the Boston Marathon finish line, so I thought I'd squeeze in a run or two heading that direction. I'm staying at the Omni Parker House hotel.

So, what's the running scene down there? I'm thinking a pain in the ###, but I'll be running early in the AM. Any thoughts from those that have been around there? Probably only do 5 or so mile runs that week.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I'll be in Boston for a conference the week of September 8th-11th. Will be staying within 2 miles or so of the end of the Boston Marathon finish line, so I thought I'd squeeze in a run or two heading that direction. I'm staying at the Omni Parker House hotel.

So, what's the running scene down there? I'm thinking a pain in the ###, but I'll be running early in the AM. Any thoughts from those that have been around there? Probably only do 5 or so mile runs that week.

That's where I stayed when I ran Boston in 2013. You'll be right by the Boston Common so you can run on those paths.

 

[Ned]

Speaking of...

I'm guessing the shark move is to stay at a hotel near the finish for Boston, right? Assume you need to take the subway or something to get to the start?

 

[pbm107]

Speaking of...

I'm guessing the shark move is to stay at a hotel near the finish for Boston, right? Assume you need to take the subway or something to get to the start?

I don't know if I'd call it the shark move, but it is definitely the expensive route. Since it was my one and only Boston that's what I did and I don't have any regrets. I wanted the full experience of being near the finish line and taking the school bus to the start. I stayed at the Boston Marriott Copley Place and booked through MarathonTours.

 

[Sand]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

yep. 75 degrees, 73 dew point on my ride this morning. Ate like Otis yesterday (office birthdays = big cake) which made this morning extra miserable.

3 day taper to Rocket Man!

Good friend is doing it with you. I'll be very interested to see how your times match up.

He finished third in the masters division at Mountain Lakes a couple weeks ago so you two should be pretty close.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Speaking of...

I'm guessing the shark move is to stay at a hotel near the finish for Boston, right? Assume you need to take the subway or something to get to the start?

I don't know if I'd call it the shark move, but it is definitely the expensive route. Since it was my one and only Boston that's what I did and I don't have any regrets. I wanted the full experience of being near the finish line and taking the school bus to the start. I stayed at the Boston Marriott Copley Place and booked through MarathonTours.

Honestly, I think the shark move is doing what Tri-man does and stay by the start, sleep in, and get dropped off at the start shortly before the race begins (I'm not sure how he gets back). For racing prep reasons, I wasn't a big fan of catching a 6:00 bus for a 10:00ish start. I agree, though, that staying downtown and busing is probably the proper experience for at least your first time.

 

[FUBAR]

Looks like some of you guys (Chief, et al) are getting a great cool front. Very low temps ahead. Enjoy.

Thunderstorm at 5:45 am today so I bagged the run and slept another hour.

Not us east coasters. Suck city over on the right coast.

yep. 75 degrees, 73 dew point on my ride this morning. Ate like Otis yesterday (office birthdays = big cake) which made this morning extra miserable.

3 day taper to Rocket Man!

Good friend is doing it with you. I'll be very interested to see how your times match up.

He finished third in the masters division at Mountain Lakes a couple weeks ago so you two should be pretty close.

so if I want to podium, I just have to get older?

 

[SFBayDuck]

I'll be in Boston for a conference the week of September 8th-11th. Will be staying within 2 miles or so of the end of the Boston Marathon finish line, so I thought I'd squeeze in a run or two heading that direction. I'm staying at the Omni Parker House hotel.

So, what's the running scene down there? I'm thinking a pain in the ###, but I'll be running early in the AM. Any thoughts from those that have been around there? Probably only do 5 or so mile runs that week.

I did this a few months ago, ran to the finish and then up the course to the bottom of Heartbreak Hill and back. There is also a trail/bike path along the river I believe and the paths in the Common that Juxt mentioned.

 

[tri-man 47]

Speaking of...

I'm guessing the shark move is to stay at a hotel near the finish for Boston, right? Assume you need to take the subway or something to get to the start?

I don't know if I'd call it the shark move, but it is definitely the expensive route. Since it was my one and only Boston that's what I did and I don't have any regrets. I wanted the full experience of being near the finish line and taking the school bus to the start. I stayed at the Boston Marriott Copley Place and booked through MarathonTours.

Honestly, I think the shark move is doing what Tri-man does and stay by the start, sleep in, and get dropped off at the start shortly before the race begins (I'm not sure how he gets back). For racing prep reasons, I wasn't a big fan of catching a 6:00 bus for a 10:00ish start. I agree, though, that staying downtown and busing is probably the proper experience for at least your first time.

Yes, the shark move is stay in the suburbs out toward Hopkinton. Race morning is easy-peasy - get to the shuttle buses at the state park a couple miles down the road from Hopkinton, and get dropped off by the bus less than a 1/4 mile from the start (catch the bathrooms at the gas station right on the corner behind the corrals). Given the start times, you get to sleep in and have a leisurely morning. On Saturday or Sunday, you can take a train into the city for the expo. After the race, public transportation is free for runners, so you can catch a train back to the suburbs (quite a few runners are on these trains, since each town along the route gets a number of race bibs to distribute). They don't publicize the buses too much ...maybe because they're lightly used; maybe they don't want to encourage this suburban approach. And a big drawback with the new security: You cannot check a post-race bag in the city the day before. I've stayed with a friend and her husband in Southborough ..but she recently told me they're getting divorced. :( I told her she should find her own place in Hopkinton.

The full experience, as pbm notes, is to stay in Boston, catch an early (6-7 a.m.) bus out to the local H.S. in Hopkinton. The H.S. is almost a mile up the road from the start. The challenges are the early start, the long ride out (not sure my nervous bladder could take it!), and the long - and often cold - wait at the H.S. until a 10:15-10:30 a.m. start. Also, the bag check is in the city before leaving, so anything you bring to Hopkinton has to stay there. But again, that's the classic Boston Marathon experience. Logistically, it's a tough race for runners ..and just as tough for spectators who want to make multiple stops. But ..it's Boston!

 

[ChiefD]

I'll be in Boston for a conference the week of September 8th-11th. Will be staying within 2 miles or so of the end of the Boston Marathon finish line, so I thought I'd squeeze in a run or two heading that direction. I'm staying at the Omni Parker House hotel.

So, what's the running scene down there? I'm thinking a pain in the ###, but I'll be running early in the AM. Any thoughts from those that have been around there? Probably only do 5 or so mile runs that week.

That's where I stayed when I ran Boston in 2013. You'll be right by the Boston Common so you can run on those paths.

I'll be in Boston for a conference the week of September 8th-11th. Will be staying within 2 miles or so of the end of the Boston Marathon finish line, so I thought I'd squeeze in a run or two heading that direction. I'm staying at the Omni Parker House hotel.

So, what's the running scene down there? I'm thinking a pain in the ###, but I'll be running early in the AM. Any thoughts from those that have been around there? Probably only do 5 or so mile runs that week.

I did this a few months ago, ran to the finish and then up the course to the bottom of Heartbreak Hill and back. There is also a trail/bike path along the river I believe and the paths in the Common that Juxt mentioned.

Thanks!

 

[FUBAR]

Speaking of...

I'm guessing the shark move is to stay at a hotel near the finish for Boston, right? Assume you need to take the subway or something to get to the start?

I don't know if I'd call it the shark move, but it is definitely the expensive route. Since it was my one and only Boston that's what I did and I don't have any regrets. I wanted the full experience of being near the finish line and taking the school bus to the start. I stayed at the Boston Marriott Copley Place and booked through MarathonTours.

Honestly, I think the shark move is doing what Tri-man does and stay by the start, sleep in, and get dropped off at the start shortly before the race begins (I'm not sure how he gets back). For racing prep reasons, I wasn't a big fan of catching a 6:00 bus for a 10:00ish start. I agree, though, that staying downtown and busing is probably the proper experience for at least your first time.

Yes, the shark move is stay in the suburbs out toward Hopkinton. Race morning is easy-peasy - get to the shuttle buses at the state park a couple miles down the road from Hopkinton, and get dropped off by the bus less than a 1/4 mile from the start (catch the bathrooms at the gas station right on the corner behind the corrals). Given the start times, you get to sleep in and have a leisurely morning. On Saturday or Sunday, you can take a train into the city for the expo. After the race, public transportation is free for runners, so you can catch a train back to the suburbs (quite a few runners are on these trains, since each town along the route gets a number of race bibs to distribute). They don't publicize the buses too much ...maybe because they're lightly used; maybe they don't want to encourage this suburban approach. And a big drawback with the new security: You cannot check a post-race bag in the city the day before. I've stayed with a friend and her husband in Southborough ..but she recently told me they're getting divorced. :( I told her she should find her own place in Hopkinton.

The full experience, as pbm notes, is to stay in Boston, catch an early (6-7 a.m.) bus out to the local H.S. in Hopkinton. The H.S. is almost a mile up the road from the start. The challenges are the early start, the long ride out (not sure my nervous bladder could take it!), and the long - and often cold - wait at the H.S. until a 10:15-10:30 a.m. start. Also, the bag check is in the city before leaving, so anything you bring to Hopkinton has to stay there. But again, that's the classic Boston Marathon experience. Logistically, it's a tough race for runners ..and just as tough for spectators who want to make multiple stops. But ..it's Boston!

:X

If I want a logistical challenge, I'll do a point to point tri

 

[andyjayhawker]

I'll be in Boston for a conference the week of September 8th-11th. Will be staying within 2 miles or so of the end of the Boston Marathon finish line, so I thought I'd squeeze in a run or two heading that direction. I'm staying at the Omni Parker House hotel.

So, what's the running scene down there? I'm thinking a pain in the ###, but I'll be running early in the AM. Any thoughts from those that have been around there? Probably only do 5 or so mile runs that week.

Running in Boston is great. You should definitely do at least one run down by the Charles river where there is a riverside path for running and biking. From that hotel you just run on Tremont (it turns into Cambridge) and you'll end up at the river. There's a pretty good chance you could run that route and only have to stop at 1 or 2 traffic lights. If you want to do a longer run, the river path creates an 18+ mile route from Boston out to Watertown. I also like running the common and down newbury st. It's crowded but I think it's fun to have so much going on as I run. You could also run across the bridge over into Charlestown.

 

[gruecd]

Speaking of...

I'm guessing the shark move is to stay at a hotel near the finish for Boston, right? Assume you need to take the subway or something to get to the start?

I don't know if I'd call it the shark move, but it is definitely the expensive route. Since it was my one and only Boston that's what I did and I don't have any regrets. I wanted the full experience of being near the finish line and taking the school bus to the start. I stayed at the Boston Marriott Copley Place and booked through MarathonTours.

Honestly, I think the shark move is doing what Tri-man does and stay by the start, sleep in, and get dropped off at the start shortly before the race begins (I'm not sure how he gets back). For racing prep reasons, I wasn't a big fan of catching a 6:00 bus for a 10:00ish start. I agree, though, that staying downtown and busing is probably the proper experience for at least your first time.

Yes, the shark move is stay in the suburbs out toward Hopkinton. Race morning is easy-peasy - get to the shuttle buses at the state park a couple miles down the road from Hopkinton, and get dropped off by the bus less than a 1/4 mile from the start (catch the bathrooms at the gas station right on the corner behind the corrals). Given the start times, you get to sleep in and have a leisurely morning. On Saturday or Sunday, you can take a train into the city for the expo. After the race, public transportation is free for runners, so you can catch a train back to the suburbs (quite a few runners are on these trains, since each town along the route gets a number of race bibs to distribute). They don't publicize the buses too much ...maybe because they're lightly used; maybe they don't want to encourage this suburban approach. And a big drawback with the new security: You cannot check a post-race bag in the city the day before. I've stayed with a friend and her husband in Southborough ..but she recently told me they're getting divorced. :( I told her she should find her own place in Hopkinton.

The full experience, as pbm notes, is to stay in Boston, catch an early (6-7 a.m.) bus out to the local H.S. in Hopkinton. The H.S. is almost a mile up the road from the start. The challenges are the early start, the long ride out (not sure my nervous bladder could take it!), and the long - and often cold - wait at the H.S. until a 10:15-10:30 a.m. start. Also, the bag check is in the city before leaving, so anything you bring to Hopkinton has to stay there. But again, that's the classic Boston Marathon experience. Logistically, it's a tough race for runners ..and just as tough for spectators who want to make multiple stops. But ..it's Boston!

Following tri-man's lead might be the "shark move," but you absolutely DO NOT want to miss the experience of staying in Back Bay amidst all the action for your first Boston experience.

 

[gruecd]

Speaking of...

I'm guessing the shark move is to stay at a hotel near the finish for Boston, right? Assume you need to take the subway or something to get to the start?

I don't know if I'd call it the shark move, but it is definitely the expensive route. Since it was my one and only Boston that's what I did and I don't have any regrets. I wanted the full experience of being near the finish line and taking the school bus to the start. I stayed at the Boston Marriott Copley Place and booked through MarathonTours.

Yes, it's expensive, but I wouldn't trade it for the world. Find other ways to save money.

 

[Brony]

Last week I rested my legs by only doing a few hikes in Smoky Mtn National Park while on vacation incl. one that was 1,500 elevation over 2 miles. Some rest. Anyway, that allowed my right gastroc to get to pain free state.

I've done 3 mile runs on Mon & Wed this week and still have soreness in my right gastroc post run, but it's a different pain than the typical peroneal muscle and it passes more quickly (12-24 hours instead of 48+). Holding onto hope that this is still part of muscles re-adapting to running with inserts, but skeptical since I don't get the same pain on my left leg. Yesterday I got passed by a guy with a running stroller. F333ing hate when that happens.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Last week I rested my legs by only doing a few hikes in Smoky Mtn National Park while on vacation incl. one that was 1,500 elevation over 2 miles. Some rest. Anyway, that allowed my right gastroc to get to pain free state.

Sounds awesome!

Hope the calf pain keeps improving. And if you hate getting passed by strollers, get out on some single track trail as you won't have to worry about seeing any.

 

[Gator Shawn]

You guys are animals. I need a JV thread.

 

[SteveC702]

Last week I rested my legs by only doing a few hikes in Smoky Mtn National Park while on vacation incl. one that was 1,500 elevation over 2 miles. Some rest. Anyway, that allowed my right gastroc to get to pain free state.

Sounds awesome!

Hope the calf pain keeps improving. And if you hate getting passed by strollers, get out on some single track trail as you won't have to worry about seeing any.

Strollers don't slow a person down as much as most people would think, especially if the person pushing the stroller has done extensive running/training with it. I remember when I first graduated I heard about another runner in my shoes who was just training his ### off and seeing how serious he wants to take post-collegiate running. After a summer of hard training he hopped into a local 5K race and was well on the way to victory when someone in a double-stroller ran him down in the last 100 meters with the twins in the strollers yelling "get him daddy! get him!". He later found out the guy pushing the stroller was a sub-14 5K guy, but it was still a huge blow to his ego at the time.

The last two guys who held the world record in the marathon while pushing a stroller (Mike Wardian and Zac Freudenburg) are 2:16-2:17 guys who ran in the low 2:30s while pushing strollers. (so about 30s/mile, I would think it's less for shorter distances)