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Give that some time.I'm really enjoying watching heart rate now.
 Give that some time.I'm really enjoying watching heart rate now.
 Glad you're back to normal!Heart slipped back into sinus rythym last night around 8 so I doged the scheduled shock treatment this morning.
6M this morning 7:56/137. After three days off I figured my legs would feel great but they really didn't, took longer than usual to get loose. And my feet felt like bricks, definitely overdue for new shoes. I'd planned to run an easy 5, having to get back to the house in time to drive my freshman daughter to her first XC practice, but decided after the first couple to go 6 so picked it up a little.
Strava is kind of bugging me with their distance tracking. I ran 6.09 this morning and per usual they rounded down to 6 even. On my Saturday run I went 5.04 but Strava had me at 4.9. #### you Strava! In both cases they added the extra 20-30 seconds onto the time for my first mile, which I hadn't noticed before but maybe that's where it's always gone? So today's 8:28 first mile (as reported on the TomTom site) shows up as 8:55.
There's a 5 mile race tomorrow evening at 6:30 in Hingham, a pit stop on the route I take to the beach house. Working on a plan to stop off and run that on my way down. Would be good to get another data point to figure out a reasonable HM goal pace.
I'm sure I will become a slave to it eventually, but for now it's gives me something to take my mind off the suck that is Florida in August.Give that some time.I'm really enjoying watching heart rate now.![]()
I took one of the aerobic tests a few months back, posted it here. Zone 2 was up to 150, so I go with that whereas MAF would be 146 now. Honestly I don't use HR much with speed work, that's effort based training, though perhaps I should change that?What test? Explain.I've been going by the zones shown by my test.Heart rate guys, do you use just strict percentage of your max or use one of those heart rate reserve formulas? My run yesterday really has me spinning about what my perception of "easy" is when I'm not checking my monitor. Thinking I need to recalculate my zones. Also, it was interesting to find Pfitzinger's ideas about the proper training zones since I'm following his plan. I was surprised to read that he had long runs between 75-85%. I guess I've typically been on the low end of that. Nice to know that I got a lot more freedom to run faster when I feel the need.
actually, we'd probably just strike the "in Florida" part.I'm sure I will become a slave to it eventually, but for now it's gives me something to take my mind off the suck that is Florida in August.Give that some time.I'm really enjoying watching heart rate now.![]()
also, in before someone strikes through "in August" from my statement above.
 
 
   He apparently missed it after missing a couple of practices.  He told me he wanted to keep it up.  We talked to the coach and explained the situation before and then now and he was super cool with it.  It's just the JV team and they don't have any meets until late September so he didn't miss much.  I did explain to him you can't be wishy-washy and he's committed the remainder of this season and he's cool with that.Yeah - that's scary stuff Nigel - I'm sure you are used to it but I'm sure it gives you some anxious moments. GL if you do get the race in.Ned said:Glad you're back to normal!Heart slipped back into sinus rythym last night around 8 so I doged the scheduled shock treatment this morning.
6M this morning 7:56/137. After three days off I figured my legs would feel great but they really didn't, took longer than usual to get loose. And my feet felt like bricks, definitely overdue for new shoes. I'd planned to run an easy 5, having to get back to the house in time to drive my freshman daughter to her first XC practice, but decided after the first couple to go 6 so picked it up a little.
Strava is kind of bugging me with their distance tracking. I ran 6.09 this morning and per usual they rounded down to 6 even. On my Saturday run I went 5.04 but Strava had me at 4.9. #### you Strava! In both cases they added the extra 20-30 seconds onto the time for my first mile, which I hadn't noticed before but maybe that's where it's always gone? So today's 8:28 first mile (as reported on the TomTom site) shows up as 8:55.
There's a 5 mile race tomorrow evening at 6:30 in Hingham, a pit stop on the route I take to the beach house. Working on a plan to stop off and run that on my way down. Would be good to get another data point to figure out a reasonable HM goal pace.
GL tomorrow!
You're coming off a pretty great race though. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself.today's run helped me realize I'm underrecovered and sleeping like #### all week impacts training.
Getting ready for 10 weeks of MAF, reset that base.
Would love to go under 35. I'm leery though, I rarely run in the evening and the few times I have recently have not gone well. Biggest issue is what to eat when today so I'm not overcome with hunger a few miles in, which is what often happens on anything but morning runs. I'm thinking a bagel a couple of hours before and a gel before the gun.What's your goal for the race tonight, Nigel?![]()
Don't sweat the hunger. You got more than enough glycogen stores to handle a 35mins race.Would love to go under 35. I'm leery though, I rarely run in the evening and the few times I have recently have not gone well. Biggest issue is what to eat when today so I'm not overcome with hunger a few miles in, which is what often happens on anything but morning runs. I'm thinking a bagel a couple of hours before and a gel before the gun.What's your goal for the race tonight, Nigel?![]()
 Eat 90-120 minutes before and then just run really fast. The faster you get done the faster you can eat.Would love to go under 35. I'm leery though, I rarely run in the evening and the few times I have recently have not gone well. Biggest issue is what to eat when today so I'm not overcome with hunger a few miles in, which is what often happens on anything but morning runs. I'm thinking a bagel a couple of hours before and a gel before the gun.What's your goal for the race tonight, Nigel?![]()
I won't be, just surprised at how slow I've been this week after only a oly-tri.You're coming off a pretty great race though. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself.today's run helped me realize I'm underrecovered and sleeping like #### all week impacts training.
Getting ready for 10 weeks of MAF, reset that base.
Eat 90-120 minutes before and then just run really fast. The faster you get done the faster you can eat.Would love to go under 35. I'm leery though, I rarely run in the evening and the few times I have recently have not gone well. Biggest issue is what to eat when today so I'm not overcome with hunger a few miles in, which is what often happens on anything but morning runs. I'm thinking a bagel a couple of hours before and a gel before the gun.What's your goal for the race tonight, Nigel?![]()
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Based on what I've seen from you so far, you got a great shot at sub 35.
   make sure to eat but not overeat before the race.  With evening runs I think you're more at risk of stomach cramps and indigestion.I ran that race earlier this month at 6:30PM and I think I ate just a quest bar and an apple about 90 minutes before the race. No issues.Eat 90-120 minutes before and then just run really fast. The faster you get done the faster you can eat.Would love to go under 35. I'm leery though, I rarely run in the evening and the few times I have recently have not gone well. Biggest issue is what to eat when today so I'm not overcome with hunger a few miles in, which is what often happens on anything but morning runs. I'm thinking a bagel a couple of hours before and a gel before the gun.What's your goal for the race tonight, Nigel?![]()
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Based on what I've seen from you so far, you got a great shot at sub 35.make sure to eat but not overeat before the race. With evening runs I think you're more at risk of stomach cramps and indigestion.
An error occurredYou have reached your quota of positive votes for the dayI ran that race earlier this month at 6:30PM and I think I ate just a quest bar and an apple about 90 minutes before the race. No issues.Eat 90-120 minutes before and then just run really fast. The faster you get done the faster you can eat.Would love to go under 35. I'm leery though, I rarely run in the evening and the few times I have recently have not gone well. Biggest issue is what to eat when today so I'm not overcome with hunger a few miles in, which is what often happens on anything but morning runs. I'm thinking a bagel a couple of hours before and a gel before the gun.What's your goal for the race tonight, Nigel?![]()
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Based on what I've seen from you so far, you got a great shot at sub 35.make sure to eat but not overeat before the race. With evening runs I think you're more at risk of stomach cramps and indigestion.
Nigel - don't take nutrition advice from this guy. He'll have you eating 6 chicken breasts on your way to the race.Hey fellas, how's it hangin round here?
Oh, I thought you were going to say eating something else...Nigel - don't take nutrition advice from this guy. He'll have you eating 6 chicken breasts on your way to the race.Hey fellas, how's it hangin round here?
 not hangin since I got that nut hugger.Hey fellas, how's it hangin round here?
Run the HM.Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://runchattanooga.org/rmm/
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
part of me wants to do the 100, part of me doesn't want to put that kind of time in.
Why the HM instead of the full?Run the HM.Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://runchattanooga.org/rmm/
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
part of me wants to do the 100, part of me doesn't want to put that kind of time in.
Training for a full in the dead of winter after having already trained for a 50K right before that doesn't sound like much fun. The HM would be way more fun.Why the HM instead of the full?Run the HM.Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://runchattanooga.org/rmm/
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
part of me wants to do the 100, part of me doesn't want to put that kind of time in.
I do like the idea of doing two HMs. Morning and afternoon.
 fair enough. Plus with IM CHOO two months later, it would be more inline with that race.Training for a full in the dead of winter after having already trained for a 50K right before that doesn't sound like much fun. The HM would be way more fun.Why the HM instead of the full?Run the HM.Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://runchattanooga.org/rmm/
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
part of me wants to do the 100, part of me doesn't want to put that kind of time in.
I do like the idea of doing two HMs. Morning and afternoon.
And a 100 miler? I don't like driving my car 100 miles!![]()
I have to sweat something Ned, it's what I do. Weather is f'ng perfect though, and course looks great - a flat trail-like run through the woods in a park, but mostly on paved paths.Don't sweat the hunger. You got more than enough glycogen stores to handle a 35mins race.You're not going to find any better August weather - GET SOME!Would love to go under 35. I'm leery though, I rarely run in the evening and the few times I have recently have not gone well. Biggest issue is what to eat when today so I'm not overcome with hunger a few miles in, which is what often happens on anything but morning runs. I'm thinking a bagel a couple of hours before and a gel before the gun.What's your goal for the race tonight, Nigel?![]()
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Duh.Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
I'm just curious, how much driving to trails for training do you usually do? I'd struggle with a half hour car ride too.Finally decided to drive 30 minutes to my favorite local trail and just get an hour in, and feel better now. But tough lull.....
On weekdays I hit the local trails which are within 2 miles - and yes I usually drive that instead of running on the road to get to the trailheads! But they're all within 5 minutes, with three different trail sections I can hit depending on what I feel like. Within 30-45 minutes I can get to any of the major trails in Marin including Pt. Reyes, Marin Headlands (above GG Bridge), Mt. Tam, etc, which I will often do on weekends, just because of the variety and scenery. And then there are other trails all over the East Bay and Peninsula that are 1-2 hours away that I only run during races.I'm just curious, how much driving to trails for training do you usually do? I'd struggle with a half hour car ride too.Finally decided to drive 30 minutes to my favorite local trail and just get an hour in, and feel better now. But tough lull.....
Brain bit off more than the body could chew. Knocked out another 10 at 7:51/mile, but I was losing steam at the end, and my hip flexors and calf muscles were tight.Hoping to get out this afternoon for 18. We'll see how that goes...
 No joke. I can't hang out, have a few drinks, and stumble...err...pace a runner in a bloody HM, now can I?SFBayDuck said:Duh.FUBAR said:Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
I hate you.SFBayDuck said:On weekdays I hit the local trails which are within 2 miles - and yes I usually drive that instead of running on the road to get to the trailheads! But they're all within 5 minutes, with three different trail sections I can hit depending on what I feel like. Within 30-45 minutes I can get to any of the major trails in Marin including Pt. Reyes, Marin Headlands (above GG Bridge), Mt. Tam, etc, which I will often do on weekends, just because of the variety and scenery. And then there are other trails all over the East Bay and Peninsula that are 1-2 hours away that I only run during races.
Cycling is awesome. Look forward to seeing how this turns out for you. You should have no problem finishing the bike. Running after the bike is what feels odd for most if you haven't done it before.AAABatteries said:With Sand, Fubar and others in here I'm almost embarrassed to bring this up but I did a 5+ mile ride this morning. Just wanted to get out and get my legs under me and do about half the distance of my sprint. The elevation on this ride was greater over 5 miles than my 13 miles will be so I'm completely confident in finishing and won't be dead for the run.
I'm not really sure what to expect - I just want to have fun, finish and see where I end up.
I've been through this recently. My heart is there with you. I wish I could say things get easier, but wow I still miss her.worrierking said:Mom's funeral was last night. Now we drive up to St. Louis for burial on Monday. Weather has been nice here, it was 66 for my run this morning. Hoping Missouri weather is nice too.
If You're volunteering to pace the 100, I'm on board.No joke. I can't hang out, have a few drinks, and stumble...err...pace a runner in a bloody HM, now can I?SFBayDuck said:Duh.FUBAR said:Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
What kind of decision is this? Where is the compassion? Think of the pacers, man...
If BnB would get his ### down here and run this one or Pinhoti I'd pace him, too.If You're volunteering to pace the 100, I'm on board.No joke. I can't hang out, have a few drinks, and stumble...err...pace a runner in a bloody HM, now can I?SFBayDuck said:Duh.FUBAR said:Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
What kind of decision is this? Where is the compassion? Think of the pacers, man...
I'm going to ask my sister in law and soon to be bil to pace part or crew too.If I do it I mean.If BnB would get his ### down here and run this one or Pinhoti I'd pace him, too.If You're volunteering to pace the 100, I'm on board.No joke. I can't hang out, have a few drinks, and stumble...err...pace a runner in a bloody HM, now can I?SFBayDuck said:Duh.FUBAR said:Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
What kind of decision is this? Where is the compassion? Think of the pacers, man...
Let's clarify - I'll pace a section of this. And a section <> 50 miles.![]()
Take off your skirt and do it.I'm going to ask my sister in law and soon to be bil to pace part or crew too.If I do it I mean.If BnB would get his ### down here and run this one or Pinhoti I'd pace him, too.If You're volunteering to pace the 100, I'm on board.No joke. I can't hang out, have a few drinks, and stumble...err...pace a runner in a bloody HM, now can I?SFBayDuck said:Duh.FUBAR said:Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
What kind of decision is this? Where is the compassion? Think of the pacers, man...
Let's clarify - I'll pace a section of this. And a section <> 50 miles.![]()
plesse tell me more about your but hugger. Sadly I haven't run much lately, prolly 5-10 miles a week.not hangin since I got that nut hugger.You running still?Hey fellas, how's it hangin round here?
Join me!Take off your skirt and do it.I'm going to ask my sister in law and soon to be bil to pace part or crew too.If I do it I mean.If BnB would get his ### down here and run this one or Pinhoti I'd pace him, too.If You're volunteering to pace the 100, I'm on board.No joke. I can't hang out, have a few drinks, and stumble...err...pace a runner in a bloody HM, now can I?SFBayDuck said:Duh.FUBAR said:Decision time guys!
Which race should I sign up for? I'm doing a trail 50k Dec 31, and IM CHOO 70.3 in May.
http://lakemartin100mile.homestead.com/
What kind of decision is this? Where is the compassion? Think of the pacers, man...
Let's clarify - I'll pace a section of this. And a section <> 50 miles.![]()