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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (14 Viewers)

pbm - What's the plan for this week? Reducing mileage to be well rested or are you treating it more as a training race?
I feel like I am ahead of schedule with the marathon training so I will be tapering for the half. I ran 6 yesterday and 10 today, and will probably run 6, 10, and 6 over the next 3 days. I am already feeling pretty rested since I skipped my 20 miler on Sunday. I am expecting a huge PR Sunday.

What's is your plan for the week?
I'm trying to figure that out. I'll probably do something similar to you. I ran 15 kind of fast this morning and that will be the only training run this week that will be taxing. Are you taking Saturday off?

I am certainly trying for a PR. My weather looks like it will be great (50s to start, maybe into low 60s by the end) so I'll have a good shot. My PR pace is 6:30 so I'll try to shoot for each mile to be 6:2x and PR on the change.

I have no doubt you're going to crush your PR. I think we're about the same right now.
You are going to kill my half time, but I think I could compete with you in a 5K or under.

 
Juxt - Sorry, I hadn't realized you were racing too! No offense to pbm since I think he's on a new level also, but I think you're on a different level than him too! Your training right now is boggling my mind. You've got more than 6:2x, IMO. Damn this is going to be a fun weekend!

Since we're all playing the guessing game right now, I'm going to say pbm breaks 1:24 and Juxt breaks 1:22. You guys have gotten so much faster than me, bastards. :) I'll be betting both of you get your 2:59's (or better) this fall.

Hang10 - Sorry, I can't really say for certain other than taking a wild ### guess. All I can say for sure is 183 is probably not something you'd want to run for long during the marathon! From a pure numbers perspective, that's 90%mHR, so I'd guess it was closer to HMP than MP. I'd take a WAG and say 183 would be the very top HR I'd want to see on your watch in a marathon, with a 173-183 type of range being what I think you'd need to be in. You're training range is higher than I'd think too, so I could be way off. :shrug:

FWIW, all of my HM's have been 91% and fulls have been 87%. The HRs been eerily consistent over the years for both distances.

 
Juxt - Sorry, I hadn't realized you were racing too! No offense to pbm since I think he's on a new level also, but I think you're on a different level than him too! Your training right now is boggling my mind. You've got more than 6:2x, IMO. Damn this is going to be a fun weekend!

Since we're all playing the guessing game right now, I'm going to say pbm breaks 1:24 and Juxt breaks 1:22. You guys have gotten so much faster than me, bastards. :) I'll be betting both of you get your 2:59's (or better) this fall.

Hang10 - Sorry, I can't really say for certain other than taking a wild ### guess. All I can say for sure is 183 is probably not something you'd want to run for long during the marathon! From a pure numbers perspective, that's 90%mHR, so I'd guess it was closer to HMP than MP. I'd take a WAG and say 183 would be the very top HR I'd want to see on your watch in a marathon, with a 173-183 type of range being what I think you'd need to be in. You're training range is higher than I'd think too, so I could be way off. :shrug:

FWIW, all of my HM's have been 91% and fulls have been 87%. The HRs been eerily consistent over the years for both distances.
I've seen a lot saying MP should be 85-90%. That would put me right around 181. Obviously this would be an overall average and there's no way I'd want to start out this aggressive.

Can't wait to get some decent weather and see what my goal MP looks like without adverse conditions.

 
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Juxt breaks 1:22.
That's like, what, 6:15 pace? Thanks but I can guarantee you that's not happening!
Mcmillan says you break 1:24. I agree with that.
Dudes, you're selling him way short. Need I remind you of the 8/22/15 run?!
He's definitely in fantastic shape and that run was ridiculous but I think previous race results are the best indicator. I'm going off his best 5K this summer. But I don't doubt that the's capable of a better time either but I'm not seeing 1:21 yet.

 
pbm breaks 1:24
I have no idea what I am capable of, all I know is that can't do the workouts that Juxt has been doing. I likely won't even give myself an opportunity to break 1:24, since I want to break 1:25 (which would be a huge PR). My plan is to anti-Sand the first mile at 6:35, hopefully that will feel easy and speed up from there.

I'm hoping Ned has a plan to negative split his marathon and follows through with that plan. Don't go for a Home Run when all you need is a double.

 
pbm breaks 1:24
I have no idea what I am capable of, all I know is that can't do the workouts that Juxt has been doing. I likely won't even give myself an opportunity to break 1:24, since I want to break 1:25 (which would be a huge PR). My plan is to anti-Sand the first mile at 6:35, hopefully that will feel easy and speed up from there.

I'm hoping Ned has a plan to negative split his marathon and follows through with that plan. Don't go for a Home Run when all you need is a double.
Yep, this is a different approach this time. I'm comfortable with 3:05-3:08. Just execute and get outta there in one piece. I'm fairly confident I'm in better shape than 3:05, but whats the point? All I want is to get in, so going any faster than required is just asking to fail. Diminishing returns and all that...

 
pbm breaks 1:24
I have no idea what I am capable of, all I know is that can't do the workouts that Juxt has been doing. I likely won't even give myself an opportunity to break 1:24, since I want to break 1:25 (which would be a huge PR). My plan is to anti-Sand the first mile at 6:35, hopefully that will feel easy and speed up from there.

I'm hoping Ned has a plan to negative split his marathon and follows through with that plan. Don't go for a Home Run when all you need is a double.
Yep, this is a different approach this time. I'm comfortable with 3:05-3:08. Just execute and get outta there in one piece. I'm fairly confident I'm in better shape than 3:05, but whats the point? All I want is to get in, so going any faster than required is just asking to fail. Diminishing returns and all that...
I say this with all the affinity earned over the years.

#### you and your fast ###.

 
Can't wait to read about your races pbm and Juxt. You guys are killing your training.

I am starting to be able to run more consistently now that all the major stuff with Mom is past. I still have some troubles with dad who is not adjusting well, but I am thinking I can run just about every day now.

I am having some Garmin troubles. Used to be if a run didn't load correctly on Garmin Connect, for whatever reason, it would show up the next time I transferred data. That's not happening now and I have had two runs completely disappear. I am already somewhat ashamed of my strava data compared to you fast guys. I would at least like some credit for getting out there everyday! Any suggestions?

Four easy this morning.

 
Can't wait to read about your races pbm and Juxt. You guys are killing your training.

I am starting to be able to run more consistently now that all the major stuff with Mom is past. I still have some troubles with dad who is not adjusting well, but I am thinking I can run just about every day now.

I am having some Garmin troubles. Used to be if a run didn't load correctly on Garmin Connect, for whatever reason, it would show up the next time I transferred data. That's not happening now and I have had two runs completely disappear. I am already somewhat ashamed of my strava data compared to you fast guys. I would at least like some credit for getting out there everyday! Any suggestions?

Four easy this morning.
I guess you've probably already tried this but sometimes I have to turn the watch off and then back on when I get an error in uploading. If the runs are still in the watch's history, I think you should be able to get them to upload. Maybe try rebooting your watch too.

 
Can't wait to read about your races pbm and Juxt. You guys are killing your training.

I am starting to be able to run more consistently now that all the major stuff with Mom is past. I still have some troubles with dad who is not adjusting well, but I am thinking I can run just about every day now.

I am having some Garmin troubles. Used to be if a run didn't load correctly on Garmin Connect, for whatever reason, it would show up the next time I transferred data. That's not happening now and I have had two runs completely disappear. I am already somewhat ashamed of my strava data compared to you fast guys. I would at least like some credit for getting out there everyday! Any suggestions?

Four easy this morning.
:( to hear about your Dad. Thankfully he has 2 great sons (more than just you 2?) to lean on.

Glad to see you running more consistently again! Wish I could help on the Garmin.

 
I'm running a trail HM on Saturday. Not sure yet if I'll really get after it or just treat it as a training run. Last couple of weeks have been pretty weak mileage wise. I've been getting out ther most days but lots of runs in the 4-6M range, no long ones in a while. Too many nights out/beers consumed lately, I need to dial that back and get back in the groove.

 
Hang 10 said:
Okay...back to heart rate zones. If I can sustain a 183 avg for a half marathon what's reasonable to assume I could manage for a full?
If it helps: My peak HMs have an avg HR of about 175. My marathon avg. HR is about 165. For the marathon, my first 10 miles are high 150s, next 8-10 moving through the 160s, then the final 6-8 miles climbing into the 170s (HM territory). My weaker marathons have been where the HR gets into the 160s early and then starts the gradual creep, leading to problems late in the race as I spend too much marathon time in a HM HR zone. All in all, I feel like a frog in a frying pan ...I know I'm heating up, and the question becomes my ability to handle it.

If we'd be at all comparable, you'd average in the low- maybe mid-170s. It would seem, then, that you'd want to keep the HR in the 160s during the early miles and hold off hitting the 180s until the final several miles. The key is keeping control over the first half of the race, which provides confidence over the back half.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
I think you should continue basically doing what you've been doing. I've noticed on Strava that you've broken your fastest mile a few times recently so you're certainly getting better. As I recall, you're also often running in very hot and humid conditions. Florida gets cool every once in a while, right? I think you'll be amazed by the difference when you get a nice running day.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
It's often repeated but really, use a heart rate monitor and go MAF. You've done great establishing a base to work from, MAF will help build your endurance. It won't make you faster at first but that doesn't seem to be your immediate goal (nor should it be)

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
I was going to suggest some intervals ...running some 800m distances, for example, at a quicker pace with a 2-3 minute rest in between. Don't overdo it (just move a little faster and stretch the stride a little longer), but pushing your muscles beyond current limits should help you run your slower distance pace more comfortably. You don't have time for the alternative of doing the longer-than-5K runs.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
I was going to suggest some intervals ...running some 800m distances, for example, at a quicker pace with a 2-3 minute rest in between. Don't overdo it (just move a little faster and stretch the stride a little longer), but pushing your muscles beyond current limits should help you run your slower distance pace more comfortably. You don't have time for the alternative of doing the longer-than-5K runs.
Depends on your goal, but for October 3rd you're right.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
I was going to suggest some intervals ...running some 800m distances, for example, at a quicker pace with a 2-3 minute rest in between. Don't overdo it (just move a little faster and stretch the stride a little longer), but pushing your muscles beyond current limits should help you run your slower distance pace more comfortably. You don't have time for the alternative of doing the longer-than-5K runs.
Depends on your goal, but for October 3rd you're right.
Sounds like I'll stick with the Strava plan which has 2 days a week of interval, a easy run, then a long 1hr20 minute run on Saturday...

 
Excited for these upcoming races, fellas!

Finally feeling back to normal today, 9 days after Mt Diablo 50K. Man that thing kicked my ###. But after struggling a bit through a hot 7 miler yesterday, I did a little climbing (800' or so) during an 8 miler today and felt pretty good.

Traveling for work the next 2 days and throwing a watch/pool party for Oregon v Michigan St this Saturday so not sure how the rest of the week will shake out, but hopeful to squeeze in some good efforts.

 
Sounds like a great weekend shaping up for you guys! Good luck to all racing.

In Boston this week, so ran a great 5.25 miler this morning. I am staying close to the Boston Commons, so ran down to the finish line of the marathon, snapped a few pics, and ran around that area for awhile. Nice to get some new scenery, the weather was a little better (still warm, but not KC warm). If all my runs were like this one I would love this game.

Great morning.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
I was going to suggest some intervals ...running some 800m distances, for example, at a quicker pace with a 2-3 minute rest in between. Don't overdo it (just move a little faster and stretch the stride a little longer), but pushing your muscles beyond current limits should help you run your slower distance pace more comfortably. You don't have time for the alternative of doing the longer-than-5K runs.
Depends on your goal, but for October 3rd you're right.
Sounds like I'll stick with the Strava plan which has 2 days a week of interval, a easy run, then a long 1hr20 minute run on Saturday...
Wait, I'm confused. You're looking to work your way up to 3mi, but have a plan to do 1h20m on Saturday?

FWIW, I think what you're doing is awesome and you should stick with that (i.e. easing into it slowly). Running and losing weight is a double edged sword. Your body takes a pounding from running; when you're carrying extra weight, that pounding is exacerbated. Take it extra careful, IMO.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
I was going to suggest some intervals ...running some 800m distances, for example, at a quicker pace with a 2-3 minute rest in between. Don't overdo it (just move a little faster and stretch the stride a little longer), but pushing your muscles beyond current limits should help you run your slower distance pace more comfortably. You don't have time for the alternative of doing the longer-than-5K runs.
Depends on your goal, but for October 3rd you're right.
Sounds like I'll stick with the Strava plan which has 2 days a week of interval, a easy run, then a long 1hr20 minute run on Saturday...
Wait, I'm confused. You're looking to work your way up to 3mi, but have a plan to do 1h20m on Saturday?

FWIW, I think what you're doing is awesome and you should stick with that (i.e. easing into it slowly). Running and losing weight is a double edged sword. Your body takes a pounding from running; when you're carrying extra weight, that pounding is exacerbated. Take it extra careful, IMO.
It seems like a strange plan.

I might go find another.

http://i.imgur.com/dZxVxXS.png

BTW - Since I only have ~ 4 weeks until the race it started me at week 3. But even Week 1 included a long run. This is a lame plan.

I'm going to use this basic progression:

http://www.halhigdon.com/training/50933/Novice-Training-for-your-first-5K

Except I do like the idea of interval training, so I might mix a few of those in.

 
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Right, Shawn, don't do that first one. That was designed for someone already well comfortable with the 5K distance. (But it's not lame -- I have to defend my boy, McMillan!)

I agree that the Higdon one looks good.

 
Okay. My first real "race" an easy 5K on flat surface is October 3rd. I'm not where I had hoped I'd be in preparation for it.

I can run 2 miles at a consistent pace, but I break down in the third. What's the best way to train for increasing distance?
I believe some guys in here have had some success with the couch to 5K program.
I've done it, but the couch 2 5K program is not realistic for a first time 5K. I've completed the program, which does get you running nonstop for 30 minutes, but that's not a 5K for a beginner. I can run 40 or so minutes nonstop at a fairly slow pace, but it comes up more like 2.7 miles and I'm starting to suck wind. Maybe the answer is to continue to grind that pace out for the next 3 weeks try to stretch it out to 3.1 miles. I'm not sure. Strava has some fairly complex plan which uses interval training and runs of up to 1hr 30minutes as a prep plan for a 5K. Maybe that's the right approach, just seeking some input.
I think you should continue basically doing what you've been doing. I've noticed on Strava that you've broken your fastest mile a few times recently so you're certainly getting better. As I recall, you're also often running in very hot and humid conditions. Florida gets cool every once in a while, right? I think you'll be amazed by the difference when you get a nice running day.
To this point, have you tried running early in the morning when temps are a bit cooler? As I recall, you do a lot of your running in the late afternoon. The heat will take it's toll on even the best runners. Most the guys in here are up and at em at 5:30 AM or earlier to avoid the heat.

 
Speaking of cooler temps in the AM. I had a workout planned today so you know it was going to suck. SI of 154 at 5AM. :doh:

When is fall getting here?? :rant:

 
Speaking of cooler temps in the AM. I had a workout planned today so you know it was going to suck. SI of 154 at 5AM. :doh:

When is fall getting here?? :rant:
One of the several nice things about not following a strict training plan is you can pick workouts around the forecast. Just saying...

 
Speaking of cooler temps in the AM. I had a workout planned today so you know it was going to suck. SI of 154 at 5AM. :doh:

When is fall getting here?? :rant:
As I was running this morning, I thought about my Strava brothers and wondered which sorry sap had a workout to do today. That humidity sucks balls! Good job pushing through!

So happy I'm through the taper and can rest up. :sleep:

 
be like Dory andjust go swimming, just go swimming.
Speaking of swimming, I managed to pick up a dog's bite mark on my wetsuit on Monday morning! I was walking around our lake in order to swim back from the far side (without any regular swim training, I'm not quite in shape to swim across and back). Passing one cottage, a little yapper starting coming at me, so I stopped to see how it would play out. The owner comes out onto an overhead porch and, instead of calling off the mutt, gives me a reassuring head nod and says it's OK. I'm not convinced, but turn to walk away. Of course, the little #### makes a lunge and nicks my wetsuit near the lower calf, although it didn't penetrate through. I was pissed and unleashed a number of choice words as the owner came down to fetch the dog and offer a lame apology. The subsequent swim, at least, went extremely well. As always, it's heavenly to have the entire lake to myself. I was really cranking it toward the end. Grand Rapids has a newer triathlon series in late August several miles from our cottage ...

 
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be like Dory andjust go swimming, just go swimming.
Speaking of swimming, I managed to pick up a dog's bite mark on my wetsuit on Monday morning! I was walking around our lake in order to swim back from the far side (without any regular swim training, I'm not quite in shape to swim across and back). Passing one cottage, a little yapper starting coming at me, so I stopped to see how it would play out. The owner comes out onto an overhead porch and, instead of calling off the mutt, gives me a reassuring head nod and says it's OK. I'm not convinced, but turn to walk away. Of course, the little #### makes a lunge and nicks my wetsuit near the lower calf, although it didn't penetrate through. I was pissed and unleashed a number of choice words as the owner came down to fetch the dog and offer a lame apology. The subsequent swim, at least, went extremely well. As always, it's heavenly to have the entire lake to myself. I was really cranking it toward the end. Grand Rapids has a newer triathlon series in late August several miles from our cottage ...
I hate dogs. Probably because they hate me.

 
be like Dory andjust go swimming, just go swimming.
Speaking of swimming, I managed to pick up a dog's bite mark on my wetsuit on Monday morning! I was walking around our lake in order to swim back from the far side (without any regular swim training, I'm not quite in shape to swim across and back). Passing one cottage, a little yapper starting coming at me, so I stopped to see how it would play out. The owner comes out onto an overhead porch and, instead of calling off the mutt, gives me a reassuring head nod and says it's OK. I'm not convinced, but turn to walk away. Of course, the little #### makes a lunge and nicks my wetsuit near the lower calf, although it didn't penetrate through. I was pissed and unleashed a number of choice words as the owner came down to fetch the dog and offer a lame apology. The subsequent swim, at least, went extremely well. As always, it's heavenly to have the entire lake to myself. I was really cranking it toward the end. Grand Rapids has a newer triathlon series in late August several miles from our cottage ...
I hate dogs. Probably because they hate me.
but your avatar is so nice.

 
be like Dory andjust go swimming, just go swimming.
Speaking of swimming, I managed to pick up a dog's bite mark on my wetsuit on Monday morning! I was walking around our lake in order to swim back from the far side (without any regular swim training, I'm not quite in shape to swim across and back). Passing one cottage, a little yapper starting coming at me, so I stopped to see how it would play out. The owner comes out onto an overhead porch and, instead of calling off the mutt, gives me a reassuring head nod and says it's OK. I'm not convinced, but turn to walk away. Of course, the little #### makes a lunge and nicks my wetsuit near the lower calf, although it didn't penetrate through. I was pissed and unleashed a number of choice words as the owner came down to fetch the dog and offer a lame apology. The subsequent swim, at least, went extremely well. As always, it's heavenly to have the entire lake to myself. I was really cranking it toward the end. Grand Rapids has a newer triathlon series in late August several miles from our cottage ...
I hate dogs. Probably because they hate me.
And it's those little yappers that seem the quickest to bite.

 
be like Dory andjust go swimming, just go swimming.
Speaking of swimming, I managed to pick up a dog's bite mark on my wetsuit on Monday morning! I was walking around our lake in order to swim back from the far side (without any regular swim training, I'm not quite in shape to swim across and back). Passing one cottage, a little yapper starting coming at me, so I stopped to see how it would play out. The owner comes out onto an overhead porch and, instead of calling off the mutt, gives me a reassuring head nod and says it's OK. I'm not convinced, but turn to walk away. Of course, the little #### makes a lunge and nicks my wetsuit near the lower calf, although it didn't penetrate through. I was pissed and unleashed a number of choice words as the owner came down to fetch the dog and offer a lame apology. The subsequent swim, at least, went extremely well. As always, it's heavenly to have the entire lake to myself. I was really cranking it toward the end. Grand Rapids has a newer triathlon series in late August several miles from our cottage ...
I hate dogs. Probably because they hate me.
but your avatar is so nice.
That dog is too stoned to be aggressive. He's cool with me.

 
be like Dory andjust go swimming, just go swimming.
Speaking of swimming, I managed to pick up a dog's bite mark on my wetsuit on Monday morning! I was walking around our lake in order to swim back from the far side (without any regular swim training, I'm not quite in shape to swim across and back). Passing one cottage, a little yapper starting coming at me, so I stopped to see how it would play out. The owner comes out onto an overhead porch and, instead of calling off the mutt, gives me a reassuring head nod and says it's OK. I'm not convinced, but turn to walk away. Of course, the little #### makes a lunge and nicks my wetsuit near the lower calf, although it didn't penetrate through. I was pissed and unleashed a number of choice words as the owner came down to fetch the dog and offer a lame apology. The subsequent swim, at least, went extremely well. As always, it's heavenly to have the entire lake to myself. I was really cranking it toward the end. Grand Rapids has a newer triathlon series in late August several miles from our cottage ...
I hate dogs. Probably because they hate me.
And it's those little yappers that seem the quickest to bite.
I think I mentioned it last year but I got bit pretty good by a boxer. Decent size dog. Broke the skin. Ever since then I try to steer clear when one of those bastards gives me a sideways glance.

 
Sounds like a great weekend shaping up for you guys! Good luck to all racing.

In Boston this week, so ran a great 5.25 miler this morning. I am staying close to the Boston Commons, so ran down to the finish line of the marathon, snapped a few pics, and ran around that area for awhile. Nice to get some new scenery, the weather was a little better (still warm, but not KC warm). If all my runs were like this one I would love this game.

Great morning.
For how long are you in Boston?

 

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