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MAC_32 said:
For all that went wrong with my race if there's one thing I think I nailed it was the diet.  Veering from your question some, I think the most important thing that I did was really clean it up a month prior.  From a high level, I tightened some things up the last 10 days, but by mostly maintaining my usual routine my body didn't give me the finger (food-wise anyway) race day.  I added a few pounds during the taper, but due to the forecasted heat I believe it was all water weight.  Next time around I don't want to think much about diet during training; I want it to be instinctive from previously developed habits.

I've posted about what I eat before, but I am curious what the rest of this group does.  I'm sure they have posted, but my notebook isn't as strong as @pbm107.  Now's probably the best time to refine some things as both you and I have more time and energy to devote to implementing any changes.  A lot easier to start the good habits now rather than mid/late-training.
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I'm still a high fat/high protein guy.  I don't go way out of my way to avoid carbs, but they're at the bottom of the list of food for all of us (entire family).  Usually just drink milk, water, and coffee.  Will have some OJ when I feel like it or apple cider when it's in season.  Aside from lowering my calories to match the lower mileage, I don't change a thing during the taper.  

Typical pre-race meal is a protein (venison, chicken, pork, or steak), potato, salad.  

If you really want the secret recipe though......

We'll randomly have chinese takeout and I've noticed that when I have General Tso chicken, my following day's workout is always awesome.  I'm damn near tempted to eat it the night before Rehoboth

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Ned said:
Eat more than 800cal a day. ;)  
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We kid @ChiefD, but he's right.  Given your size I highly doubt you need to consume as much as the rest of us, but I think you'll find it easier to achieve fitness gains by increasing the general tso's frequency caloric intake.

 
Nigel said:
Anyone here into spinning and familiar withe the Pelotan bike? My wife has been lusting for one for a while but they're damn expensive and not something we've seriously considered. I've got our 20th anniversary in a couple of weeks though and might surprise the heck out of her and get her one in lieu of jewelry or some other nonsense. Will also cover her bday, Christmas and any other gift obligation for the next year...

Reviews are great, wondering if anyone has used it or heard anything about it from someone they know. I know she'll use it a ton and pretty sure I would as well. 
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The chick in the commercial is a smoke show.  That's all I got.

 
I ran my usual 4 mile loop and felt good. No pain, soreness, nothing. Next morning I got out of bed, took 1 step, and almost fell over. Felt like I had seriously sprained my ankle. No swelling or redness, just pain starting from the bottom edge of my foot right in front of my heel bone, around the outer back part of my ankle and up into the back of my calf. Week later I still have pain if I walk up a slope or turn to the right with weight on my foot. I had a quick chat with my doc who basically said you're getting old, buy some gel inserts and take some advil. Getting old means injuring yourself while asleep? How is that even possible?

 
mrip541 said:
I ran my usual 4 mile loop and felt good. No pain, soreness, nothing. Next morning I got out of bed, took 1 step, and almost fell over. Felt like I had seriously sprained my ankle. No swelling or redness, just pain starting from the bottom edge of my foot right in front of my heel bone, around the outer back part of my ankle and up into the back of my calf. Week later I still have pain if I walk up a slope or turn to the right with weight on my foot. I had a quick chat with my doc who basically said you're getting old, buy some gel inserts and take some advil. Getting old means injuring yourself while asleep? How is that even possible?
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Honestly, it sounds like you need a new doctor.  

 
Tried one more time to see if my ankle was getting any better and sadly, it isn't. I'm out for the Richmond marathon. I guess I'll wait to hear from my doctor but looks like 2016 has come to an abrupt end for me. 

I'm going to continue to cross train and do activities that don't aggravate it and hopefully that will give me a decent base for being back in 2017. 

 
Hang 10 said:
Tried one more time to see if my ankle was getting any better and sadly, it isn't. I'm out for the Richmond marathon. I guess I'll wait to hear from my doctor but looks like 2016 has come to an abrupt end for me. 

I'm going to continue to cross train and do activities that don't aggravate it and hopefully that will give me a decent base for being back in 2017. 
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Damn dude. Really, really sorry to hear this. :(

 
Hang 10 said:
Tried one more time to see if my ankle was getting any better and sadly, it isn't. I'm out for the Richmond marathon. I guess I'll wait to hear from my doctor but looks like 2016 has come to an abrupt end for me. 

I'm going to continue to cross train and do activities that don't aggravate it and hopefully that will give me a decent base for being back in 2017. 
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:sadbanana:   :sadbanana:   :sadbanana:   :sadbanana:  

A good reminder that even the fittest of fit are still human.  Really sorry for you man.  You worked your ### off, but sounds like you have your head on right.

 
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Thanks, fellas. It's certainly disappointing but I've been here before. I feel pretty confident that I'm still going to Boston with you guys in 2018, I'm just going to punch my ticket a little later than I had planned.

 
Hang 10 said:
Tried one more time to see if my ankle was getting any better and sadly, it isn't. I'm out for the Richmond marathon. I guess I'll wait to hear from my doctor but looks like 2016 has come to an abrupt end for me. 

I'm going to continue to cross train and do activities that don't aggravate it and hopefully that will give me a decent base for being back in 2017. 
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My heart sank when I saw that run this morning on Strava.  Your drive and determination is inspiring to me.  Looking forward to watching you kill it in 2017.

That being said, another friend of mine is dealing with ankle issues and their doctor thinks its from running on the same side of the road so the pitch is screwed up and one foot is always striking lower than the other.  Ankles are particularly difficult to heal because limited blood runs through them.

 
Hang 10 said:
Thanks, fellas. It's certainly disappointing but I've been here before. I feel pretty confident that I'm still going to Boston with you guys in 2018, I'm just going to punch my ticket a little later than I had planned.
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Yuengling Shamrock Marathon?

 
SteelCurtain said:
My heart sank when I saw that run this morning on Strava.  Your drive and determination is inspiring to me.  Looking forward to watching you kill it in 2017.

That being said, another friend of mine is dealing with ankle issues and their doctor thinks its from running on the same side of the road so the pitch is screwed up and one foot is always striking lower than the other.  Ankles are particularly difficult to heal because limited blood runs through them.
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This is one reason why I stick to sidewalks and trails as much as possible.

 
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That'd be pretty awesome to watch all 3 of you in the same race.  Although, it being Paddy's weekend, who am I kidding, I won't be watching - I'll raise a glass in your honor though  :banned:

 
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MAC_32 said:
For all that went wrong with my race if there's one thing I think I nailed it was the diet.  Veering from your question some, I think the most important thing that I did was really clean it up a month prior.  From a high level, I tightened some things up the last 10 days, but by mostly maintaining my usual routine my body didn't give me the finger (food-wise anyway) race day.  I added a few pounds during the taper, but due to the forecasted heat I believe it was all water weight.  Next time around I don't want to think much about diet during training; I want it to be instinctive from previously developed habits.

I've posted about what I eat before, but I am curious what the rest of this group does.  I'm sure they have posted, but my notebook isn't as strong as @pbm107.  Now's probably the best time to refine some things as both you and I have more time and energy to devote to implementing any changes.  A lot easier to start the good habits now rather than mid/late-training.
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I try to abide by the 80% rule.  80% of the time I eat clean/healthy protein, fruit, veggies, good fats, etc.  then I eat whatever I feel like 20% of the time.  I'm cutting down on beer for the rest of the year, no beer during the week (one Jack and water or wine is still happening) and maybe 2 at most on the weekends. 

Hang 10 said:
Tried one more time to see if my ankle was getting any better and sadly, it isn't. I'm out for the Richmond marathon. I guess I'll wait to hear from my doctor but looks like 2016 has come to an abrupt end for me. 

I'm going to continue to cross train and do activities that don't aggravate it and hopefully that will give me a decent base for being back in 2017. 
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:sadbanana:  

SteelCurtain said:
My heart sank when I saw that run this morning on Strava.  Your drive and determination is inspiring to me.  Looking forward to watching you kill it in 2017.

That being said, another friend of mine is dealing with ankle issues and their doctor thinks its from running on the same side of the road so the pitch is screwed up and one foot is always striking lower than the other.  Ankles are particularly difficult to heal because limited blood runs through them.
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This seems accurate.  I hate running the same route every day but I do feel better when running on the greenway near our house or the hardball trail by the office.  When I run on the road I try to stay in the middle of the lane, facing traffic, if there's not much traffic (usually there isn't on the weekends) because the shoulders suck. I think this also impacts my left calf, possibly overcompensating? 

 
How do you all handle your legs just being dead tired throughout the day?  I know it's from the increased mileage but I'm not dropping down now.  While running I'm pretty much fine, but the rest of the day my legs are tight, I almost killed myself putting on my underwear earlier this morning (while standing up - tripped and almost fell over).   The stick, rolling and the tens machine help some, but dang this part sucks. I don't usually have this problem when tri-training. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
He also mentioned this one as a possibility for me. (I get bored of the Midwest  tri-man's nervous chatter at local races sometimes.)
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tri-man 47 said:
Fixed.
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Well, I'm still leaning towards running the Wisconsin Marathon in May.  If you'd decided to BQ for that one too, I'd be happy to endure that nervous chatter! :D   (Although, honestly, I've never noticed before.  You've always seemed like a Zen Master to me!)

 
FUBAR said:
How do you all handle your legs just being dead tired throughout the day?  I know it's from the increased mileage but I'm not dropping down now.  While running I'm pretty much fine, but the rest of the day my legs are tight, I almost killed myself putting on my underwear earlier this morning (while standing up - tripped and almost fell over).   The stick, rolling and the tens machine help some, but dang this part sucks. I don't usually have this problem when tri-training. 
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This is a good question. I have this same problem. I stretch all the time and even throughout the day. But my legs never ever feel right until I'm about 2 miles into a run.

Maybe this is just normal. 

 
Next question - do we have anyone from Texas here? I'll apply for a job in corpus christi, although it's not my first choice (hoping to stay near huntsville).  It's 2 hours south of San Antonio/Houston,  right on the Gulf of Mexico.  Probably miserable for running in the summer.  But, on the beach! 

 
FUBAR said:
How do you all handle your legs just being dead tired throughout the day?  I know it's from the increased mileage but I'm not dropping down now.  While running I'm pretty much fine, but the rest of the day my legs are tight, I almost killed myself putting on my underwear earlier this morning (while standing up - tripped and almost fell over).   The stick, rolling and the tens machine help some, but dang this part sucks. I don't usually have this problem when tri-training. 
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I'm assuming its from your sudden increase in running.  I mean, I can tell on most non-recovery days that I've ran, but my legs aren't tired like that.  Some Sundays are an exception like when I ran 24, or the 20/14 MP, etc.

Maybe its also because of the faster running that Hanson has you doing? 

 
Ned said:
I'm assuming its from your sudden increase in running.  I mean, I can tell on most non-recovery days that I've ran, but my legs aren't tired like that.  Some Sundays are an exception like when I ran 24, or the 20/14 MP, etc.

Maybe its also because of the faster running that Hanson has you doing? 
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You're certainly right - it might not have been smart to run faster while increasing mileage.

 I'll stick with it, but to be honest (primarily with myself) I should have done more base running before getting into the Hanson program.  I've built a good aerobic base but there's a significant difference in the muscles between running 6 times a week, 60 miles weekly, vs. 2-3 runs, rides and swim.  I didn't add much time to the training regiment, but it's all pounding on the legs.  Actually, looking at Strava's monthly calendar I'm really consistent -  monthly hours for 2016: 41, 39, 44, 39, 38, 41, 38, 39, 43, 40.  But before October that was almost equally balanced between running/cycling with 15% swim. I won't get back to the bike or pool before January, at least not much, but it's something I need to keep in mind.

 
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FUBAR said:
How do you all handle your legs just being dead tired throughout the day?  I know it's from the increased mileage but I'm not dropping down now.  While running I'm pretty much fine, but the rest of the day my legs are tight, I almost killed myself putting on my underwear earlier this morning (while standing up - tripped and almost fell over).   The stick, rolling and the tens machine help some, but dang this part sucks. I don't usually have this problem when tri-training. 
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If you are doing Hanson's and trying to increase mileage significantly, you can expect to feel completely dragged out (especially weeks 10-16). 

Hanson's will push you hard.   I know that early in the plan, I felt like the easy runs were a waste.  As I got to the second half, I realized the easy runs were timed perfectly.  To the point, where I couldn't imagine doing anything but easy.

I'll guess I'll know Sunday whether the plan was effective in getting me the BQ.  :oldunsure:

 
SteelCurtain said:
If you are doing Hanson's and trying to increase mileage significantly, you can expect to feel completely dragged out (especially weeks 10-16). 

Hanson's will push you hard.   I know that early in the plan, I felt like the easy runs were a waste.  As I got to the second half, I realized the easy runs were timed perfectly.  To the point, where I couldn't imagine doing anything but easy.

I'll guess I'll know Sunday whether the plan was effective in getting me the BQ.  :oldunsure:
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Completely agreed already on the easy runs.  I'm loving those right now. 

Go kick some ###!

 
SteelCurtain said:
That being said, another friend of mine is dealing with ankle issues and their doctor thinks its from running on the same side of the road so the pitch is screwed up and one foot is always striking lower than the other.  Ankles are particularly difficult to heal because limited blood runs through them.
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way back someone told me "don't run in the camber!"

i had no idea what that meant

i think it was @tri-man 47

had to look it up and then realized... yeah... i've been running in the gutter on the street and sometimes my ankles just ####### kill. never thought about it before then. now, avoid at all costs.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Well, I'm still leaning towards running the Wisconsin Marathon in May.  If you'd decided to BQ for that one too, I'd be happy to endure that nervous chatter! :D   (Although, honestly, I've never noticed before.  You've always seemed like a Zen Master to me!)
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which Wisconsin marathon in May? :popcorn:

 
wtf... Furley's in this thread?

going to be a fantastic weekend here in NYC- perfect fall-like racing weather: partly cloudy, temps in the 50s (probably in the 40s to start- so bring some throw-away sweats that get collected for charity... I bought mine new at KMart and left the tags on before stripping in the corrals).

Good luck NYC marathon peeps!! (and don't go too fast when you get to 1st ave in manhattan after the 59th street bridge- the adrenaline from the huge crowds, big downhill off the bridge and widest open road will tempt you).

 
About 45 hours until start time of NYC Marathon.  :excited:

Plan is to head to NYC via train early tomorrow morning and arrive about 8:45.  I'll head right to expo, spend a little time there and then head to hotel.  Will check in and lay low until race morning. 

Weather for Sunday continues to look good temps in low to mid 50's and mostly sunny.  Wind however will be a factor as wind is 18 mph with gusts to 30 from the North North West.  Which will be mostly a headwind for most of the first 20 miles. 

Goal is to run a 7:38/mile pace for the first 5K and if I feel okay, I'll try to move up to a 7:35/mile pace.  Once I get to mile 20, I'll do whatever I think is best to keep me under 3:20 goal. 

Thanks to all you guys for your ideas, support, and motivation.  Special thanks to @Ned who motivated me to give this BQ a shot.   He sent me a text after my 3:52 marathon in June saying "Snap your lazy ### out of it and start running.  We are all going for Boston 2018....."   Little did he know, he got me motivated to commit the time to try to BQ.  Thanks bud!

I've done the training and I hope it pays off this weekend.  Just need to run smart and confident.

If you are interested in tracking me, you can either download the app for your phone or go to a website for tracking.   More details at this page.  http://www.tcsnycmarathon.org/race-day/mobile-app-and-runner-tracking

I think the website version provides mile by mile splits for those who want to race stalk.  :ph34r:

I am bib #18051.

If you want to watch the race on TV, its on ESPN2 I believe starting at 9 a.m......just don't expect to see me in the lead pack.  Ha.

 
Super excited for you @Steel Curtain! :towelwave:  

Run smart in that wind.  I've found its best to just take what the wind gives you.  It's not going to be a constant direct and speed, so adapt to the variances.  

 
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