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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (6 Viewers)

I'm probably showing my age here and this is unrelated to running, but when posters in the FFA share photos from the Internet seemingly anonymously like Duck and Brony did on Squarespace, are these websites free or are you paying for a subscription to do this?

 
Juxtatarot said:
I'm probably showing my age here and this is unrelated to running, but when posters in the FFA share photos from the Internet seemingly anonymously like Duck and Brony did on Squarespace, are these websites free or are you paying for a subscription to do this?
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To get the race pics, (in Chrome) right-click on image and then "copy image address".  Paste that into a new tab or window. Those pictures from the 5K are hosted on a Squarespace site by the photographer (probably).    

If you already have a picture that you want to share, easiest way to share a picture anonymously is to upload it to imgur or tinypic.  These sites are free and don't require a login. 

 
Hang 10 said:
I knew @Brony had calf issues but I no idea it was this bad. His left leg appears to only be a nub. Makes his sub-20 even more impressive IMO. 
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In all seriousness, he is lifting his leg quite a bit.  I've noticed that in every action shot of me, my feet are very close to the ground.  Half the time I almost look like I'm walking.  I've thought that that was probably a good thing -- maybe I'm doing the minimum amount of work necessary to lift my legs. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
In all seriousness, he is lifting his leg quite a bit.  I've noticed that in every action shot of me, my feet are very close to the ground.  Half the time I almost look like I'm walking.  I've thought that that was probably a good thing -- maybe I'm doing the minimum amount of work necessary to lift my legs. 
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I'm probably similar to you in that respect. Probably because my stride is short and quick. I would love to add some length to my stride but wouldn't we all. 

 
Sad news from Minnesota this week.  This is a stomach punch for me, being essentially the same age as I am and on a trail (and same race series) that I have incredible fondness for.  :(

 
Juxtatarot said:
In all seriousness, he is lifting his leg quite a bit.  I've noticed that in every action shot of me, my feet are very close to the ground.  Half the time I almost look like I'm walking.  I've thought that that was probably a good thing -- maybe I'm doing the minimum amount of work necessary to lift my legs. 
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The issue didn't come up in a gait analysis. :unsure:  I think the effect might be exaggerated since that photo was during the stretch.  I got issues for sure.  But I hadn't heard of stride height being connected to my peroneus longus woes. 

 
Brony said:
The issue didn't come up in a gait analysis. :unsure:  I think the effect might be exaggerated since that photo was during the stretch.  I got issues for sure.  But I hadn't heard of stride height being connected to my peroneus longus woes. 
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If the pic is taken mid final kick, a high back foot is completely normal and a good thing. 

http://imgur.com/p2ZWNtL

 
SFBayDuck said:
So it's totally normal if you are on massive quantities of thyroid medication and IV drips of L-carnitine?

Much love for my fellow Duck, Galen, but there's just too much going on up there in Salazar's magic running house to ignore.
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Yeeeeesh. All I was trying to say was look at their strides.  Virtually every elite runner has a high kick (i.e. It's not a bad thing)  :unsure:  

 
Ned said:
Yeeeeesh. All I was trying to say was look at their strides.  Virtually every elite runner has a high kick (i.e. It's not a bad thing)  :unsure:  
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I was just joking, @Ned, at Galen's expense not anyone here, particularly in light of the recent NY Times article.  That high back kick is one of the things I admire when watching faster runners, as my feet barely get off the ground half the time.

 
AAA Invitational 5k Race Report

AG: 1/1

Overall: 1/1

Time: 39:54

I jogged, walked, then "sprinted" and walked more.  I found my groove late in mile 2 - faded at the end.

thats right - I only invited myself - made the victory somewhat bittersweet 
 
AAABatteries said:
AAA Invitational 5k Race Report

AG: 1/1

Overall: 1/1

Time: 39:54

I jogged, walked, then "sprinted" and walked more.  I found my groove late in mile 2 - faded at the end.

thats right - I only invited myself - made the victory somewhat bittersweet 
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Sounds like a prestigious event considering only one lucky person was invited. 

 
Only my 3rd week into marathon training and something's got to change. Training for a marathon in south Florida in the middle of summer is not ideal, and I knew that going in. The reason I chose to do it was because I'm a teacher and this will be the first summer I have off. However, it is not summer yet and my schedule is pretty crazy. I have to complete my runs before the sun comes up because that is the only time the temperature is below 85 degrees.

So, waking up at 4:30 am and completing my run isn't ideal. I have to be at work by 6:45 every morning, because I run a before and after school program. I work my 2 jobs and get home around 6:30-7:00 pm every night. I have about 20 minutes to relax, then I try and complete as much college work as possible (just finished my Masters and started my Doctoral degree). At about 9:30, I prepare for the next morning's run and workday, then try and get to sleep before 10:00. So, 5-6 hours of sleep every night is really having a negative effect on my runs.

It gets really frustrating when I go through all of this and go out at 4:30 am and stink the place up with my runs because I'm sleep deprived and not eating enough. Not looking for anything, think I just needed to vent. I have about 3 more weeks of this schedule, and then I should have some time on my hands. Thanks for listening!

 
I was just saying similar to my wife that I'll need to flip my morning runs to after dark in the summer bc my sleep will erode too much as mileage and frequency increase towards my Oct marathon.  Also the morning fasted runs are not optimal for me even at my pace. Good luck finding the time, summer should open things up for you. Also good luck on the continued education towards doctorate. I just wrapped up my MBA last week and am stoked with no official plans for any more formal edumacation - actually the pressure release has made me kick back a bit too much as I have been drinking all the wine and air balled a couple planned runs until righting the ship this morning.

Grind out the next 3 weeks and you'll find a way to make it work once more time frees up.  Summer runs will be hotter but you can be more fueled /hydrated / rested.

 
JShare87 said:
Only my 3rd week into marathon training and something's got to change. Training for a marathon in south Florida in the middle of summer is not ideal, and I knew that going in. The reason I chose to do it was because I'm a teacher and this will be the first summer I have off. However, it is not summer yet and my schedule is pretty crazy. I have to complete my runs before the sun comes up because that is the only time the temperature is below 85 degrees.

So, waking up at 4:30 am and completing my run isn't ideal. I have to be at work by 6:45 every morning, because I run a before and after school program. I work my 2 jobs and get home around 6:30-7:00 pm every night. I have about 20 minutes to relax, then I try and complete as much college work as possible (just finished my Masters and started my Doctoral degree). At about 9:30, I prepare for the next morning's run and workday, then try and get to sleep before 10:00. So, 5-6 hours of sleep every night is really having a negative effect on my runs.

It gets really frustrating when I go through all of this and go out at 4:30 am and stink the place up with my runs because I'm sleep deprived and not eating enough. Not looking for anything, think I just needed to vent. I have about 3 more weeks of this schedule, and then I should have some time on my hands. Thanks for listening!
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Take a complete day off to get some extra rest.  Don't become a slave to the schedule.  The bold is going to burn you out before you know it.

 
@JShare87 Why not use a treadmill to get out of the heat every once in a while? It won't help will all these issues and I know treadmill runs can be tedious but I'd certainly use them if I were training for a marathon in the Florida heat and humidity.

 
JShare87 said:
Only my 3rd week into marathon training and something's got to change. Training for a marathon in south Florida in the middle of summer is not ideal, and I knew that going in. The reason I chose to do it was because I'm a teacher and this will be the first summer I have off. However, it is not summer yet and my schedule is pretty crazy. I have to complete my runs before the sun comes up because that is the only time the temperature is below 85 degrees.

So, waking up at 4:30 am and completing my run isn't ideal. I have to be at work by 6:45 every morning, because I run a before and after school program. I work my 2 jobs and get home around 6:30-7:00 pm every night. I have about 20 minutes to relax, then I try and complete as much college work as possible (just finished my Masters and started my Doctoral degree). At about 9:30, I prepare for the next morning's run and workday, then try and get to sleep before 10:00. So, 5-6 hours of sleep every night is really having a negative effect on my runs.

It gets really frustrating when I go through all of this and go out at 4:30 am and stink the place up with my runs because I'm sleep deprived and not eating enough. Not looking for anything, think I just needed to vent. I have about 3 more weeks of this schedule, and then I should have some time on my hands. Thanks for listening!
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You got kids? Must be nice to have 20 min to relax at night. ;)  

 
JShare87 said:
Only my 3rd week into marathon training and something's got to change. Training for a marathon in south Florida in the middle of summer is not ideal, and I knew that going in. The reason I chose to do it was because I'm a teacher and this will be the first summer I have off. However, it is not summer yet and my schedule is pretty crazy. I have to complete my runs before the sun comes up because that is the only time the temperature is below 85 degrees.

So, waking up at 4:30 am and completing my run isn't ideal. I have to be at work by 6:45 every morning, because I run a before and after school program. I work my 2 jobs and get home around 6:30-7:00 pm every night. I have about 20 minutes to relax, then I try and complete as much college work as possible (just finished my Masters and started my Doctoral degree). At about 9:30, I prepare for the next morning's run and workday, then try and get to sleep before 10:00. So, 5-6 hours of sleep every night is really having a negative effect on my runs.

It gets really frustrating when I go through all of this and go out at 4:30 am and stink the place up with my runs because I'm sleep deprived and not eating enough. Not looking for anything, think I just needed to vent. I have about 3 more weeks of this schedule, and then I should have some time on my hands. Thanks for listening!
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Week 3 sounds about right for your first rough patch.  This is your first of about a dozen or so hurdles you'll encounter marathon training.  Your success race day depends on how you adjust to them.  Step #1 - go to bed early tonight, skip tomorrow morning's run, "sleep in," and edit the rest of this week's workout schedule.

 
@JShare87 I get up at 4:30 for my normal runs and 5:00 for my recovery runs and try to get in bed by 9:30.  While in marathon I training once or twice a month there are days where I am exhausted and I am sleeping before 8:00.  I started drinking coffee the summer 2012 while training for my first marathon.

As much as I hate the treadmill, if I was training in Florida I’d have to use one over the summer.  At least you get a break from your schedule in three weeks. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
@JShare87 Why not use a treadmill to get out of the heat every once in a while? It won't help will all these issues and I know treadmill runs can be tedious but I'd certainly use them if I were training for a marathon in the Florida heat and humidity.
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I understand and have thought about that quite a bit. Probably a good idea to start doing that for my shorter runs. I just can't stand running on that damn thing.

 
MAC_32 said:
Week 3 sounds about right for your first rough patch.  This is your first of about a dozen or so hurdles you'll encounter marathon training.  Your success race day depends on how you adjust to them.  Step #1 - go to bed early tonight, skip tomorrow morning's run, "sleep in," and edit the rest of this week's workout schedule.
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Yeah, 2 years ago every 3rd week on Pfitz I'd really feel fatigued. I would scale back the following week and just do what I could. It worked out in the end. If you need extra rest, take it. 

On the other side of things, I'm really enjoying where I'm at. I'm not training for a marathon...in fact I'm not training for anything and I'm really loving it. Some days I listen to my HR monitor. Some days I don't. Some days I want to run fast, so I do. Some days I don't, so I don't. I've done 2 races in the past 3 weeks and I've just signed up for 2 more. I have a 10K this Saturday and another 5K June 10th. 

I've guess it's just nice to return to my sweet spot of running just enough to race. I probably won't be PR'ing any time soon but that's okay...in fact, it takes a lot of the pressure off and just allows me to do my best and be satisfied by getting in a workout at worst. 

 
JShare87 said:
Understood. Like I said, just having a bad day and venting. There are plenty of people with way more on their plates. I'll suck it up and stop complaining. 
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No worries. I like to whine myself. Just giving you a little ####. That's what we're here for. :thumbup:  

 
Hang 10 said:
Yeah, 2 years ago every 3rd week on Pfitz I'd really feel fatigued. I would scale back the following week and just do what I could. It worked out in the end. If you need extra rest, take it. 

On the other side of things, I'm really enjoying where I'm at. I'm not training for a marathon...in fact I'm not training for anything and I'm really loving it. Some days I listen to my HR monitor. Some days I don't. Some days I want to run fast, so I do. Some days I don't, so I don't. I've done 2 races in the past 3 weeks and I've just signed up for 2 more. I have a 10K this Saturday and another 5K June 10th. 

I've guess it's just nice to return to my sweet spot of running just enough to race. I probably won't be PR'ing any time soon but that's okay...in fact, it takes a lot of the pressure off and just allows me to do my best and be satisfied by getting in a workout at worst. 
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It's a nice zone, isn't it?  I think there will be massive benefits in the long run from remaining active, but taking a mental break from goal specific training.

 
MAC_32 said:
It's a nice zone, isn't it?  I think there will be massive benefits in the long run from remaining active, but taking a mental break from goal specific training.
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For sure. Where I am now is basically me before I began the quest for the Boston Marathon.  Extremely active but the emphasis on running is strength training is about equal. 

Sometimes I'll wonder if all the extra running is worth it. Obviously if you're running a marathon, yes but if you're running shorter races I'm not so sure. Let's take last year for instance. I was running around 50 miles a week and PR'd the 5K with a 18:28. Good time for sure but a week ago I ran a 19:11 on half the mileage and had only returned to running 5 weeks prior. Is 43 seconds really worth it? IDK...I guess I go back in forth about that question all the time. 

 
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Juxtatarot said:
If you're like me, it's fine for a while.  But then you get that itch to do better than you've done before...
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That sounds about right. I also know that at some point I'll start training for another marathon and that's when I'll be training to break old barriers. 

 
Ive never really checked out this thread, but seeing the Chicago guys have peaked my interest.  I can't do marathon distance because of a bad knee that really acts up with all that training, but can do shorter races and signed up for the Olympic Distance Tri at the end of August.  Ive never done a swim or bike race, but wanted something to motivate me.  35 years old, never ran competitively in high school or college but played football and basketball so conditioning was involved.

Anyway - just some stats for me to track, to keep me motivated and to follow along with others (The only 4 races ive ever run):

2004 - Local 5k in 17:59  so 5:50ish pace (threw up any water I drank during the race 2 seconds after crossing the finish line) 2nd in age group, 5th overall.  Was running all the time with a buddy who did a marathon in 2:56, so he pushed me.  

2012 - Chase Corporate Challenge Chicago 3.5 miles.  28:28 so 8:08 min pace- was about 50 lbs heavier (245ish) than I was for the above race and didnt train at all.  This race was part of what got me back into running.  Ran the next two races probably around 205lbs, which is where I am at now.

2013 - Hot Chocolate 15k - 1:02:29 so a 6:43 pace. Came in 100th overall, 14th out of 512 in division. Started slow as I had no timed races so had to start in a further back coral.  First couple of miles were over 8 min since I had to weave in and out.  Fun race though.  Should have kept running after this. Was running about 6 miles a day all summer during lunch at work with a buddy 4-5 days a week so was in great shape.  Had never run more than 6 before this race.

2013 - Ditka Dash 5k - not sure official time, under 20 min, but came in 3rd overall.  Showed up super hung over wearing my Mike Ditka Jersey, Ditka Stash, Aviator shades and a Bears winter hat with a ball on top.  Was just runnning to run with my brother who was in town.  As we are lining up I tell him I think I could beat most these guys and he says go for it.  In the top 10 or so I was the only one not wearing running gear. Hearing the crowd cheer as "Ditka" sprinted past was the highlight of my racing career.  

So there you have it, a whopping 4 races in my career but would really like to do more.  They are always fun so maybe the Chicago guys can stay on me, and maybe @tri-man 47 will have some tips for my attempt at an Olympic distance tri in August.  Got to stay accountable!

 
ditka...mike ditka said:
Ive never really checked out this thread, but seeing the Chicago guys have peaked my interest.  I can't do marathon distance because of a bad knee that really acts up with all that training, but can do shorter races and signed up for the Olympic Distance Tri at the end of August.  Ive never done a swim or bike race, but wanted something to motivate me.  35 years old, never ran competitively in high school or college but played football and basketball so conditioning was involved.

Anyway - just some stats for me to track, to keep me motivated and to follow along with others (The only 4 races ive ever run):

2004 - Local 5k in 17:59  so 5:50ish pace (threw up any water I drank during the race 2 seconds after crossing the finish line) 2nd in age group, 5th overall.  Was running all the time with a buddy who did a marathon in 2:56, so he pushed me.  

2012 - Chase Corporate Challenge Chicago 3.5 miles.  28:28 so 8:08 min pace- was about 50 lbs heavier (245ish) than I was for the above race and didnt train at all.  This race was part of what got me back into running.  Ran the next two races probably around 205lbs, which is where I am at now.

2013 - Hot Chocolate 15k - 1:02:29 so a 6:43 pace. Came in 100th overall, 14th out of 512 in division. Started slow as I had no timed races so had to start in a further back coral.  First couple of miles were over 8 min since I had to weave in and out.  Fun race though.  Should have kept running after this. Was running about 6 miles a day all summer during lunch at work with a buddy 4-5 days a week so was in great shape.  Had never run more than 6 before this race.

2013 - Ditka Dash 5k - not sure official time, under 20 min, but came in 3rd overall.  Showed up super hung over wearing my Mike Ditka Jersey, Ditka Stash, Aviator shades and a Bears winter hat with a ball on top.  Was just runnning to run with my brother who was in town.  As we are lining up I tell him I think I could beat most these guys and he says go for it.  In the top 10 or so I was the only one not wearing running gear. Hearing the crowd cheer as "Ditka" sprinted past was the highlight of my racing career.  

So there you have it, a whopping 4 races in my career but would really like to do more.  They are always fun so maybe the Chicago guys can stay on me, and maybe @tri-man 47 will have some tips for my attempt at an Olympic distance tri in August.  Got to stay accountable!
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Damn, those times are pretty impressive. I bet you'd be really good if you acutually trained.

 
JShare87 said:
Damn, those times are pretty impressive. I bet you'd be really good if you acutually trained.
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Thanks.  Though I wouldnt say I never trained.  Like now, I probably run 3-6 miles 3-4 times a week.  So its not like I just hop of the couch when I ran these races (outside of the corporate challenge).  I've just never really ran races or stuck with any training strategy to improve speed.  Im close to 6'3 and carry my extra weight in my midsection but when I run with other runners they say my long strides kill them.  So maybe just lucky to have some what of a lanky frame.  I've only glanced at a few pages in here, but I know there is no way I can run as fast as a lot of these guys are in here!  

 
ditka...mike ditka said:
Thanks.  Though I wouldnt say I never trained.  Like now, I probably run 3-6 miles 3-4 times a week.  So its not like I just hop of the couch when I ran these races (outside of the corporate challenge).  I've just never really ran races or stuck with any training strategy to improve speed.  Im close to 6'3 and carry my extra weight in my midsection but when I run with other runners they say my long strides kill them.  So maybe just lucky to have some what of a lanky frame.  I've only glanced at a few pages in here, but I know there is no way I can run as fast as a lot of these guys are in here!  
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 I know I never will.   :lol:

 
AAABatteries said:
AAA Invitational 5k Race Report

AG: 1/1

Overall: 1/1

Time: 39:54

I jogged, walked, then "sprinted" and walked more.  I found my groove late in mile 2 - faded at the end.

thats right - I only invited myself - made the victory somewhat bittersweet 
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Thanks for raising the bar for me - I finally broke 15 minute miles and now I've got to figure out how to shave another 1+ minute off my PR pace.

####er.

 
ditka...mike ditka said:
Thanks.  Though I wouldnt say I never trained.  Like now, I probably run 3-6 miles 3-4 times a week.  So its not like I just hop of the couch when I ran these races (outside of the corporate challenge).  I've just never really ran races or stuck with any training strategy to improve speed.  Im close to 6'3 and carry my extra weight in my midsection but when I run with other runners they say my long strides kill them.  So maybe just lucky to have some what of a lanky frame.  I've only glanced at a few pages in here, but I know there is no way I can run as fast as a lot of these guys are in here!  
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I can count on 1 hand the number of guys that have broken 18 for the 5K in here.  You're faster than most of us.

Welcome!

 
Hang 10 said:
Yeah, 2 years ago every 3rd week on Pfitz I'd really feel fatigued. I would scale back the following week and just do what I could. It worked out in the end. If you need extra rest, take it. 

On the other side of things, I'm really enjoying where I'm at. I'm not training for a marathon...in fact I'm not training for anything and I'm really loving it. Some days I listen to my HR monitor. Some days I don't. Some days I want to run fast, so I do. Some days I don't, so I don't. I've done 2 races in the past 3 weeks and I've just signed up for 2 more. I have a 10K this Saturday and another 5K June 10th. 

I've guess it's just nice to return to my sweet spot of running just enough to race. I probably won't be PR'ing any time soon but that's okay...in fact, it takes a lot of the pressure off and just allows me to do my best and be satisfied by getting in a workout at worst. 
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:yes:   (well sorta...) 

:nerd: alert - with yesterday and today's run I finally raised my daily average to 9 for the year :suds:  

 
-OZ- said:
:yes:   (well sorta...) 

:nerd: alert - with yesterday and today's run I finally raised my daily average to 9 for the year :suds:  
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The difference between me and you is that you should be training for something here soon! Your MAF pace is 7:40 now??

 
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Hang 10 said:
The difference between me and you is that you should be training for something here soon! Your MAF pace is 7:40 now??
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From yesterday the  GAP for the 5 at MAF was 7:13, 7:23, 7:34, 7:34, 7:35. Actual pace 7:14, 7:32, 7:29, 7:40, 7:44. (So 7:32?) Strava includes the warmup and cooldown. 

 
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