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gruecd said:
Rodgers, Devante, Aaron Jones, MVS, Geronimo, Kumerow (maybe), Jimmy Graham (maybe), Crosby

Barely.
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Add defense, subtract Kumerow.  I think the defense is a quality matchup play - maybe the Vikings/Broncos back-to-back. Definitely the Lions/Raiders back-to-back. And there's some potential in the post bye stretch run too. Kumerow needs at least one injury in front of him.  I think Jimmy's more hope for me than anything, but he's definitely still an option.

 
Whoa whoa whoa.....what's with the pillow talk boys?

Kumerow was my deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, sleeper for the last round.  :hot:

 
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You will appreciate this @gruecd... Guy I know that is a Vikings fan posted a thing on Facebook about the intimidation factor of the NFC north mascots - mighty bear, ferocious lion, maniacal looking viking and a guy taping up a box. I posted saying "I'm not a fan of any of them but can you remind me how many championships each of those teams have?" Sometimes people are silly, IMO.

 
and for the record, just for you guys, I extended my lunch a bit and did 7 miles today instead of 5 or 6...

ETA - also they felt really good for having done 20 on Saturday. Nice comfortable pace of just over 9 min/mile. HR was a little higher than I wish but it was 80+ with 80% humidity so no to bad - up to about 150 by the end but never felt taxed or anything. 

 
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Ivyland 5K Race Report

I just got the race results from my 5K, they didn’t have chip timing so they took longer than expected.  This was a road 5K, but with 2 local high school cross country teams participating it raced like a high school cross country race. I know when I ran in high school we were coached to run the 1st mile stupid fast and we’d try to hang on.  Looking at last year’s results I figured I should finish in the top 15, and knowing it wasn’t chip timed I wanted to be near the front so I settled in the third row. 

When the gun went off the kids took off, about ¼ of the mile into it I was running 5:30 pace and about 50th place. I did my best to try to settle into my goal pace of 5:45 and I passed about 15 kids on my way to the first mile marker in 5:42.  Mile 2 is a net uphill so I knew ahead of time that I would have to work to maintain my pace, and I thought I was doing fine as I was gaining on a huge pack of runners. I looked down on my watch and it showed 6:xx, that wasn’t going to cut it so I tried to pick up the pace.  I worked my way through the group of 20 feeling pretty good about myself.  This wasn’t a la-di-da mile @ChiefD , my power meter shows 360, 369, and 346 Watts for my 3 miles, I was suffering good in mile 2.  Did I mention the Suck Index was 149.

By the time I got to the 2 mile marker I was in 8th place but was cooked.  I tried to maintain my form but I was just hanging on counting down the minutes until this was over.  With less than ¼ mile to go 2 runners pass me and I didn’t even try to stay with them, I was weak here. Finished 10th overall in 18:13, 1st in the 40-44 age group. Three runners from the one high school team beat me and one from another, not bad considering I was the 5th best runner on my team back in 1994.

 
pbm107 said:
Ivyland 5K Race Report

I just got the race results from my 5K, they didn’t have chip timing so they took longer than expected.  This was a road 5K, but with 2 local high school cross country teams participating it raced like a high school cross country race. I know when I ran in high school we were coached to run the 1st mile stupid fast and we’d try to hang on.  Looking at last year’s results I figured I should finish in the top 15, and knowing it wasn’t chip timed I wanted to be near the front so I settled in the third row. 

When the gun went off the kids took off, about ¼ of the mile into it I was running 5:30 pace and about 50th place. I did my best to try to settle into my goal pace of 5:45 and I passed about 15 kids on my way to the first mile marker in 5:42.  Mile 2 is a net uphill so I knew ahead of time that I would have to work to maintain my pace, and I thought I was doing fine as I was gaining on a huge pack of runners. I looked down on my watch and it showed 6:xx, that wasn’t going to cut it so I tried to pick up the pace.  I worked my way through the group of 20 feeling pretty good about myself.  This wasn’t a la-di-da mile @ChiefD , my power meter shows 360, 369, and 346 Watts for my 3 miles, I was suffering good in mile 2.  Did I mention the Suck Index was 149.

By the time I got to the 2 mile marker I was in 8th place but was cooked.  I tried to maintain my form but I was just hanging on counting down the minutes until this was over.  With less than ¼ mile to go 2 runners pass me and I didn’t even try to stay with them, I was weak here. Finished 10th overall in 18:13, 1st in the 40-44 age group. Three runners from the one high school team beat me and one from another, not bad considering I was the 5th best runner on my team back in 1994.
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Can I at least give you a la-di-pie for taking first in your age group on a day where the si was 149? 

 
Juxtatarot said:
At 17:00 you were only the 5th best on the team?   I always get confused on what good and mediocre times are for high school cross country runners.
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Yeah and we finished 3rd in our league.   There was a bit of bad luck there, in the early 90s our team was twice ranked in the top 20 nationally.   My team our senior year would have beat both of those team's times head to head.  We ran into a couple monster teams due to some school closings where they combined schools.

 
Juxtatarot said:
At 17:00 you were only the 5th best on the team?   I always get confused on what good and mediocre times are for high school cross country runners.
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Can't speak for PA, but in OH if your 5th best was 17 flat then you qualified for states. Our best team was when I was a freshman and I was the 5th wheel - ball park 15:45/16:30/16:45/17:30/me. I think my PR that year was 17:42. We had an outside shot of making states with that team but our #4 bombed that day and we didn't have a quality #6 to pick up the slack. So I finished 4th in something under 18 and #5 was well into the 18's instead of his customary mid 17's.

 
MAC_32 said:
Juxtatarot said:
At 17:00 you were only the 5th best on the team?   I always get confused on what good and mediocre times are for high school cross country runners.
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Can't speak for PA, but in OH if your 5th best was 17 flat then you qualified for states. Our best team was when I was a freshman and I was the 5th wheel - ball park 15:45/16:30/16:45/17:30/me. I think my PR that year was 17:42. We had an outside shot of making states with that team but our #4 bombed that day and we didn't have a quality #6 to pick up the slack. So I finished 4th in something under 18 and #5 was well into the 18's instead of his customary mid 17's.
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Even in little old DE, you had to be sub 18 to be one of the scoring runners on our XC teams.  My HS PR was 21:19 and I spent most of my time on JV.

Man I miss those days.

#UncleRico

 
MAC_32 said:
Can't speak for PA, but in OH if your 5th best was 17 flat then you qualified for states. Our best team was when I was a freshman and I was the 5th wheel - ball park 15:45/16:30/16:45/17:30/me. I think my PR that year was 17:42. We had an outside shot of making states with that team but our #4 bombed that day and we didn't have a quality #6 to pick up the slack. So I finished 4th in something under 18 and #5 was well into the 18's instead of his customary mid 17's.
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That was varsity?  You were on varsity as a freshman?

 
Juxtatarot said:
That was varsity?  You were on varsity as a freshman?
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Yep. We had good teams freshman and sophomore years, but it was all upper classmen plus me. I got into the low 17's sophomore year, but the problem was our 16:45 and 17:30 guys graduated and their replacements were high 17 guys. We made it to regionals again, but knew we had no shot then. Then all of the others graduated and there wasn't anything behind them. I think I let that get the best of me as I didn't I practiced as hard once the overall team sucked. Peaked with 16:55 junior year, so since I ran a 16:27 at age 33 I'm sure I had sub 16 in me aged 17 if I put the work in. A little disappointed in younger me, but younger me was also a ####### idiot.

 
Ned said:
Even in little old DE, you had to be sub 18 to be one of the scoring runners on our XC teams.  My HS PR was 21:19 and I spent most of my time on JV.

Man I miss those days.

#UncleRico
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We likely ran against each other at the Salesianum Invitational.

 
FWIW, in high school CC, as I bounced between JV and varsity, I did share a few starting lines with Greg Meyer, who went to a different HS in Grand Rapids.  (Greg was the last American to win Boston, prior to Meb's recent success.)  I've chatted with Greg at a few expos in the last several years, and he actually works at a related Catholic university in GR.

 
I actually didn't run until my junior year. I started the year as our #3 runner, finished it clearly #2 but was very average. Our #1 guy went to state and ran for the University of Louisville for 4 years. I think he still holds the school record for the 5K. My senior year I was still average but all excited about being our #1 runner... for like 3 races. We had a freshman come in and it took him about that long to realize he was really, really good. 

My best time ever then, however, was only 18:01. Good enough to be "slightly better than average" but not much more than that. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
Of course, I'm selfishly asking all this to see how I stack up with high school cross country runners.
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I was just looking at the online results from the time I was in high school - looking up guys I knew that did well, etc. State champ typically ran in the 15:00 to 15:30 range in the late 80's/early 90's. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
Of course, I'm selfishly asking all this to see how I stack up with high school cross country runners.
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Is 17:41 your PR? I don't know how big XC is in Illinois, but I just checked state results last year in Ohio. You could be varsity on a state qualifier in 2018, but not a team that competes for the title. I'm surprised. I figured times would be faster vs. 20 years ago.

 
MAC_32 said:
Is 17:41 your PR? I don't know how big XC is in Illinois, but I just checked state results last year in Ohio. You could be varsity on a state qualifier in 2018, but not a team that competes for the title. I'm surprised. I figured times would be faster vs. 20 years ago.
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winning times for the state meet in Indiana are pretty comparable now to then. I wouldn't expect them to get much faster - they don't run it at the same place now 

Actually was just scanning times for sectionals and such... I don't exactly remember where I finished there but I was thinking it was top 15 to 20ish or something - which looks to be reasonable looking at times of runners. I remember having a dream that I might go out faster than ever and squeeze into regionals as an individual qualifier but that didn't happen. Looks like that would take something like at least a 17:30 or better depending on the day and other competitors. So only missed it by :thatmuch:...

 
Ned said:
Even in little old DE, you had to be sub 18 to be one of the scoring runners on our XC teams.  My HS PR was 21:19 and I spent most of my time on JV.

Man I miss those days.

#UncleRico
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Pretty much same here. Only ran 1.5 seasons (broken foot during sophomore year). I remember breaking 20, don't recall by how much. I was 7th out of 7 on the varsity team. (We had 2 on jv).  

Suburbs of Detroit. Our team would get crushed in regional, especially on the track against Detroit schools. 

 
The Iguana said:
winning times for the state meet in Indiana are pretty comparable now to then. I wouldn't expect them to get much faster - they don't run it at the same place now 

Actually was just scanning times for sectionals and such... I don't exactly remember where I finished there but I was thinking it was top 15 to 20ish or something - which looks to be reasonable looking at times of runners. I remember having a dream that I might go out faster than ever and squeeze into regionals as an individual qualifier but that didn't happen. Looks like that would take something like at least a 17:30 or better depending on the day and other competitors. So only missed it by :thatmuch:...
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It may have just been bad days, but there were individual state qualifiers in my district that put down 16:55 and 17:05 last year. I dont remember how high the bar was in 2000, but it was deep into the 16's. I qualified for regionals with a 16:55 and I think I only made it by a few seconds. I made a dumb race plan for regionals because it was qualify or bust. And I busted. Quite epically. I don't remember how bad it was, but if it wasn't 19 something it was close. 

 
So yesterday was...interesting. Got a text from my mom early afternoon that my dad was admitted to the hospital because he'd apparently been having chest tightness for a week. Took some tests, determined that he'd probably had a heart attack, and sent him to the cath lab. Apparently there was too much damage to stent, so he's having bypass surgery this afternoon.

Wife and I drove up last night. She went home to take care of the dog, and I stayed here with my mom. Today is gonna be a looooooong day, so I got up this morning at 3am and ran my 10 miles on 2-3 hours of broken sleep (wearing my buddy's running shoes and some shorts I bought last night at Kohl's). It was pitch dark, just me and the stars....no music....and oddly peaceful.

Back at hospital now, hopefully meeting with surgeon soon. Thoughts and prayers greatly appreciated.

 
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gruecd said:
So yesterday was...interesting. Got a text from my mom early afternoon that my dad was admitted to the hospital because he'd apparently been having chest tightness for a week. Took some tests, determined that he'd probably had a heart attack, and sent him to the cath lab. Apparently there was too much damage to stent, so he's having bypass surgery this afternoon.

Wire and I drove up last night. She went home to take care of the dog, and I stayed here with my mom. Today is gonna be a looooooong day, so I got up this morning at 3am and ran my 10 miles on 2-3 hours of broken sleep (wearing my buddy's running shoes and some shorts I bought last night at Kohl's). It was pitch dark, just me and the stars....no music....and oddly peaceful.

Back at hospital now, hopefully meeting with surgeon soon. Thoughts and prayers greatly appreciated.
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Prayers headed your way for your pop. 

 
@gruecd, I got to Strava before I got here -- apologies that my post there was so flippant.  You had a much more important reason to be running that early than I realized.

Sending good vibes in an easterly direction.  Hope the conversation with the Doc goes as well as it can.  

 
ChiefD said:
My uncle lives in Wausau, so on Thursday we'll do a stretch of river just north of town. I pick up one of my brothers around 10 in Minneapolis, so we'll be there about 1 or so. On the river by 2, and then my other brother drives in from the Chicago area around dinner time.

We'll do a 12 hour float on Friday - we drop in up-river even more and float back to the north edge of town. We start about 8:30 am and float until dark. Saturday we'll hit a few spots close to town.

Good times. 
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Yeah bro, looking forward to it!

 
gruecd said:
So yesterday was...interesting. Got a text from my mom early afternoon that my dad was admitted to the hospital because he'd apparently been having chest tightness for a week. Took some tests, determined that he'd probably had a heart attack, and sent him to the cath lab. Apparently there was too much damage to stent, so he's having bypass surgery this afternoon.

Wife and I drove up last night. She went home to take care of the dog, and I stayed here with my mom. Today is gonna be a looooooong day, so I got up this morning at 3am and ran my 10 miles on 2-3 hours of broken sleep (wearing my buddy's running shoes and some shorts I bought last night at Kohl's). It was pitch dark, just me and the stars....no music....and oddly peaceful.

Back at hospital now, hopefully meeting with surgeon soon. Thoughts and prayers greatly appreciated.
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Glad you got in that mind clearing run.  Hang in there grue.  I’ve had my dad in for the same thing...twice.  The positive is that he got into the hospital. Modern medicine on this front is amazing.   It’ll all work out.  T&P heading your way.  

 
Spent a half-hour with the massage therapist here at work just before having lunch. A gloriously painful half hour. Need to go back there a little more often I think. The work she did on my hips and legs was something else...

 
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