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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (9 Viewers)

so i have one of those hybrid eliptical/stair masters...

If I were to track that - would it be indoor run/workout/hike?

 
Nutrition is easily the worst part.  Missed out on cake yesterday! 

Only 8 visits to the bathroom the last 24 hours. No misfires :D
the misfires are when you wake up after the procedure and you are all groggy and full of air.....  :unsure:

 
Running, in a way, actually encourages better eating as well.  There are many times I'm out for a work event and think about having a beer.  Then think "nah, that will dehydrate me for my run tomorrow and make it even harder -- get a club soda and lime".  While running affords me the calories to drink more beer, I actually drink much less because I don't want to feel like #### going into a training run or race.

Also, I think it was @gruecd who noted that he lost a lot of weight as a result of running, and the fear of gaining it all back keeps him on the streets.  I'm the same.  Both for weight, as well as losing fitness.  I worked so hard over the last two years to get fit, I hate the thought of stopping and throwing that all away.  

It's a bit of a virtuous circle.
To me, the running is like having an equity stake in my diet. I come into work and see a big bunch of cookies that somebody brought in - then I think about all I went through earlier that morning to get out of bed and bust my butt for 6 miles in the predawn cold and dark, and suddenly there's no way one of those cookies feels like it's worth undoing 1.5 miles of the effort that I've just invested.

I'm down from 206 in mid-August (the morning after a big anniversary dinner) to 182 as of this morning. Breaking 180 is going to be a big thing for me. With so much focus on weight loss, I've been running fasted but it's time to start fueling some runs,  especially the longer ones. When I did 14 on Sunday (my longest run in a long, long time) after 8 on Saturday, I was really feeling depleted by the end - kind of straddling the line between "runner's high" and "faint from hunger" in a not unpleasant way for the last couple miles. But I'm almost ready to turn from losing weight to race training and I can tell the lack of fueling is limiting the performance gains I could be seeing.

 
To me, the running is like having an equity stake in my diet. I come into work and see a big bunch of cookies that somebody brought in - then I think about all I went through earlier that morning to get out of bed and bust my butt for 6 miles in the predawn cold and dark, and suddenly there's no way one of those cookies feels like it's worth undoing 1.5 miles of the effort that I've just invested.
It's a cycle for me - there are times I think just like the above and walk on by. And there are other times it is like "I've done this work, I can have some fun." But even when doing the later, the cost is always known. Lately I've been really bad about being ok with paying the cost and it shows on the scale. I really need to buckle down on the discipline, IMO. But I keep promising to do that "tomorrow". 

 
whatever you want it to be, imo. you can edit/make a comment for your own info/tracking after it is over.
I guess my question is - in the app/watch there are a bunch of options - cycling/running/walking/hiking/skiing/indoor walk/workout that I select to track my workout

Do they matter which one I select?  I thought it did

 
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I guess my question is - in the app/watch there are a bunch of options - cycling/running/walking/hiking/skiing/indoor walk/workout

Do they matter which one I select?  I thought it did
My Garmin has an elliptical option.  I would probably see if you have that as an add-on...if not, test out the indoor walk or workout.  It's possible that none of those will record "miles" appropriately.  If not, don't sweat it and just edit the title/text and input what you did.

 
I guess my question is - in the app/watch there are a bunch of options - cycling/running/walking/hiking/skiing/indoor walk/workout

Do they matter which one I select?  I thought it did
Good question. I generally only select like one of 3 when I'm doing mine - 1 run - use this for outdoor run or running on the indoor track; 2 - treadmill - use it when on the treadmill, duh!; 3 - cardio - use it as a "catch all" - like the fitness workout I'm about to go do in the gym here at work. 

When I first got the watch I logged a few of the walks as walks, etc. And an occasional golf round will show up but I usually delete those back off of strava - mostly use that for yardage, etc but is fun to see how many steps I get when I'm pulling my bag around on my old man cart rather than riding.

 
 I really need to buckle down on the discipline, IMO. But I keep promising to do that "tomorrow". 
It's natural to do this.

I know after a big race, it takes awhile for me to start the come-back. You have all the build up to a race, the work, the nutrition, the hydration - everything is planned and dialed in.

And then POOF - the race is over. And then it's like - what's next? And if nothing is planned for a good bit, it takes time to ramp up that enthusiasm again.

Hell, I've been in this mode since last spring and just now am starting to ramp up again. So just try and maintain for now and try and do the right things, but don't beat yourself up over gaining a few pounds. Heck, I've gained 8 since my marathon, but I'm actually in normal range right now. And starting to drop again.

 
Good question. I generally only select like one of 3 when I'm doing mine - 1 run - use this for outdoor run or running on the indoor track; 2 - treadmill - use it when on the treadmill, duh!; 3 - cardio - use it as a "catch all" - like the fitness workout I'm about to go do in the gym here at work. 

When I first got the watch I logged a few of the walks as walks, etc. And an occasional golf round will show up but I usually delete those back off of strava - mostly use that for yardage, etc but is fun to see how many steps I get when I'm pulling my bag around on my old man cart rather than riding.
hmm maybe its not apple to apples

I'm using the Strava App on my Watch to sync to the Strava app on phone/website....    

I'm not using watch default stuff (Samsung Health)  - mine does not auto track my workouts unless I go into the Strava App

 
Yeah... having the higher than usual mileage had me hungry AF... and I feeding that hunger with a little extra food - over-sized portions is one of my biggest downfalls when it comes to eating. I have to get serious about re-training myself to eat with more purpose.

 
Yeah... having the higher than usual mileage had me hungry AF... and I feeding that hunger with a little extra food - over-sized portions is one of my biggest downfalls when it comes to eating. I have to get serious about re-training myself to eat with more purpose.
I've been having this internal battle with myself lately:

Me: Hey dummy, why are you eating as if you are still in marathon training?

Other Me: Shut up and mind your own business.

 
Serious quesion as a noob.. I feel pretty good (granted I didnt really run that far)  normal leg soreness and back a little.... but my knees are very achey  - will that stop eventually 

 
Serious quesion as a noob.. I feel pretty good (granted I didnt really run that far)  normal leg soreness and back a little.... but my knees are very achey  - will that stop eventually 
I had random knee/ankle pain when I started, but it subsided over time.

 
So, with the marathon done and some time before the next race, I wanted to start doing more cross training and strength work. Went back to the gym here at work twice so far this week during lunch... it's kind of kicking my ###. The workouts are a cross of cardio and strength. The cardio I feel ok. But the strength parts are making me hurt in muscles that I never even knew existed... Long term I'm sure it will all be good for me. Short term I am trying to "ease into it" but man, do I ache!

 
Serious quesion as a noob.. I feel pretty good (granted I didnt really run that far)  normal leg soreness and back a little.... but my knees are very achey  - will that stop eventually 
It should get better... eventually. This time around, I have had to focus more on stretching and stuff than I ever used to do when younger. Keeping the legs, knees, hips, ankles, feet loose is key, IMO.

 
So, with the marathon done and some time before the next race, I wanted to start doing more cross training and strength work. Went back to the gym here at work twice so far this week during lunch... it's kind of kicking my ###. The workouts are a cross of cardio and strength. The cardio I feel ok. But the strength parts are making me hurt in muscles that I never even knew existed... Long term I'm sure it will all be good for me. Short term I am trying to "ease into it" but man, do I ache!
Totally normal

 
All jokes aside, I hope all your innards are good with a clean bill of health.  :thumbup:
G2G

I have some major hemoirhoids, which I'll need to do something about. Otherwise good stuff. 

Hope yours goes as well or better. 

Chicken broth is the best thing ever.

 
G2G

I have some major hemoirhoids, which I'll need to do something about. Otherwise good stuff. 

Hope yours goes as well or better. 

Chicken broth is the best thing ever.
Internal or external?  Never had to deal with these but had one “pop up” a couple times recently - I’m wondering if it’s dehydration or diet related. 

 
Also on the diet side - I’ve spent a ton of time in our GB Otis’ diet thread as that’s been my motivation the last couple of years.  As I’ve shifted and focused more on running I’ve naturally just been eating more and more badly.  To the point where I wonder if I should do MAF to not only build my base more but to focus on fat burning and hopefully not be ravenous when I’m done running.  Does that makes sense or should I just keep doing what I’m doing?

I’m guessing the answer is it depends on my goals.

So, I would say my goals would be (in order):

1. Maintain my weight/health (bio markers) - that’s the whole reason I started this journey

2. Improve my running - build more of a base and train for races next year

3. Burn some more fat to look better 

 
Internal or external?  Never had to deal with these but had one “pop up” a couple times recently - I’m wondering if it’s dehydration or diet related. 
Both

I have plenty of fiber, but I think I've been underestimating my lactose intolerance and just dealing with it when I should have stopped consuming dairy. 

I'm cutting out dairy for a few weeks. If that doesn't work I'll go on a low FODmap diet. 

 
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I think I got in to the NYC 1/2 via lottery.

So looks like I actually do need to start running more than 1x week.
It's been so long since my last race...sweet baby jeebus...I think it was NYC in 07! I could advises about setting up a training plan for this. 

 
Also on the diet side - I’ve spent a ton of time in our GB Otis’ diet thread as that’s been my motivation the last couple of years.  As I’ve shifted and focused more on running I’ve naturally just been eating more and more badly.  To the point where I wonder if I should do MAF to not only build my base more but to focus on fat burning and hopefully not be ravenous when I’m done running.  Does that makes sense or should I just keep doing what I’m doing?

I’m guessing the answer is it depends on my goals.

So, I would say my goals would be (in order):

1. Maintain my weight/health (bio markers) - that’s the whole reason I started this journey

2. Improve my running - build more of a base and train for races next year

3. Burn some more fat to look better 
MAF + Strength training. 

 
I dont know if there is a better meal than the 84 hour out from racing pasta fest.

Elbow, garlic ground turkey, mushrooms, onion, basil pasta sauce, and piles of moo-zarella. I'm gonna enjoy tonight's food coma. 

 
MAF + Strength training. 
This. 

I'm convinced the MAF training I did took off pounds without even really trying. I was running the same amount for almost 2 years with no weight change. My weight is slowly going back up and I'm going to reverse that starting after Thanksgiving. We are doing a 5K turkey trot that Friday so MAF starts that weekend. 

And I haven't even gone up that much on my pace and my HR is still in the upper 140s but there's a clear difference. 

 
This. 

I'm convinced the MAF training I did took off pounds without even really trying. I was running the same amount for almost 2 years with no weight change. My weight is slowly going back up and I'm going to reverse that starting after Thanksgiving. We are doing a 5K turkey trot that Friday so MAF starts that weekend. 

And I haven't even gone up that much on my pace and my HR is still in the upper 140s but there's a clear difference. 
Seems like a great fit for him too, personality wise.

 
Rest day today, but ran 4 days in a row previous. Basically a test for the core muscle to see if it can hold up for the rigors of the Hanson program.

Still soreness, but it appears some foam rolling and clam shells and light core work is helping tremendously. I think it will be fine. It is getting less painful by the week.

Colonoscopy next Wednesday is the last hurdle, and if all is ok I think all systems should be a go for the training cycle. Actually feeling really strong right now. So that is a good sign.

Mentally I’m ready. 

 
Ran this morning for a third time this week after an off day yesterday.  Some good and bad.

The bad: The knee is sore, same exact spot as a couple weeks ago (inside/right side of my left knee, about an inch below the kneecap, where there's a bump of sorts -- maybe that's bone or where some ligaments attach to it).  I did something stupid and tried yet another new pair of sneakers this morning (this nice pair of highly rated Reebok Forever Floatride Energy shoes came in last night, felt comfortable enough so I thought I'd give it a whirl).   I'm starting to think it's just wear/my body still adapting to this, and some muscle/ligament/tendon soreness in that part of my knee, but these shoes have a big chunky heel like the Nikes that gave me grief, and I wonder if maybe it's the shoes.  In any event, I'm going to go back to, and stick with, the cheapie New Balance shoes I ran in the first couple times this week, which felt great.

The good: I finished.  I considered just stopping and walking halfway through, but then I remembered I'm Otis, and, fat, slow, or otherwise, coffee is still for closers.  Also got a chance to have my first run with my Garmin Forerunner 945 watch.  Really cool.  I set up workouts on it last night that match the C25K app I was using on my phone previously, and downloaded some playlists to it from Amazon Music.  Nice to not have to carry a Phone.  I have an Iphone 11Pro Max, and it's a big damn phone to hold while running, even in these ginormous mitts. 

Interesting to look at the data, though I don't know what to make of it.  Looks like HR was in the 80s before I started, and were in the 120-140 range generally during running periods, while dropping down to the 100-120 range during the walk/recovery periods.  No idea what to make of that other than I assume it's OK and means I'm not ded. 

But I guess I'll have to stay off the knee for a few days and rest it.  Hopefully that's all it'll be, because I want to stay the course.

TLDR: Otis is still fat and old and now with a bum knee again

 
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Ran this morning for a third time this week after an off day yesterday.  Some good and bad.

The bad: The knee is sore, same exact spot as a couple weeks ago (inside/right side of my left knee, about an inch below the kneecap, where there's a bump of sorts -- maybe that's bone or where some ligaments attach to it).  I did something stupid and tried yet another new pair of sneakers this morning (this nice pair of highly rated Reebok Forever Floatride Energy shoes came in last night, felt comfortable enough so I thought I'd give it a whirl).   I'm starting to think it's just wear/my body still adapting to this, and some muscle/ligament/tendon soreness in that part of my knee, but these shoes have a big chunky heel like the Nikes that gave me grief, and I wonder if maybe it's the shoes.  In any event, I'm going to go back to, and stick with, the cheapie New Balance shoes I ran in the first couple times this week, which felt great.

The good: I finished.  I considered just stopping and walking halfway through, but then I remembered I'm Otis, and, fat, slow, or otherwise, coffee is still for closers.  Also got a chance to have my first run with my Garmin Forerunner 945 watch.  Really cool.  I set up workouts on it last night that match the C25K app I was using on my phone previously, and downloaded some playlists to it from Amazon Music.  Nice to not have to carry a Phone.  I have an Iphone 11Pro Max, and it's a big damn phone to hold while running, even in these ginormous mitts. 

Interesting to look at the data, though I don't know what to make of it.  Looks like HR was in the 80s before I started, and were in the 120-140 range generally during running periods, while dropping down to the 100-120 range during the walk/recovery periods.  No idea what to make of that other than I assume it's OK and means I'm not ded. 

But I guess I'll have to stay off the knee for a few days and rest it.  Hopefully that's all it'll be, because I want to stay the course.

TLDR: Otis is still fat and old and now with a bum knee again
I’d put you in some Saucony Guides or Rides, I think they are going to have cushion, stability and should serve you well as you get going. Those Reeboks are just not enough shoe or you right now IMO.  

 
I’d put you in some Saucony Guides or Rides, I think they are going to have cushion, stability and should serve you well as you get going. Those Reeboks are just not enough shoe or you right now IMO.  
I felt totally great the past two days I ran in these New Balance cheapies.  I’m just an idiot for not wearing them again today.  So stupid.  At least then if I were still sore, I would know it has nothing to do with the shoes, and it’s just wear and tear.

Wonder if I should see a doctor at some point if this persists.  Maybe they can do some light non invasive surgery on my ankle and knee to clear up whatever is going on.

 
@Otis you'll notice as you improve aerobically that your heart rate will drop faster during the rest parts.  A common test is to measure HR a minute after exercise and note the drop. You may find that a way to keep engaged week after week.  Likely it'll a scenario where it's raining and you have to run to the car pushing a grocery cart and will note of the improvement and how much less out of breath you feel...something real world is when usually when the light clicks on.  

 
@Otis you'll notice as you improve aerobically that your heart rate will drop faster during the rest parts.  A common test is to measure HR a minute after exercise and note the drop. You may find that a way to keep engaged week after week.  Likely it'll a scenario where it's raining and you have to run to the car pushing a grocery cart and will note of the improvement and how much less out of breath you feel...something real world is when usually when the light clicks on.  
Love that. Thanks. Will try to be mindful of stuff like that to see if I can notice it. 

 
I felt totally great the past two days I ran in these New Balance cheapies.  I’m just an idiot for not wearing them again today.  So stupid.  At least then if I were still sore, I would know it has nothing to do with the shoes, and it’s just wear and tear.

Wonder if I should see a doctor at some point if this persists.  Maybe they can do some light non invasive surgery on my ankle and knee to clear up whatever is going on.
On brand with the leap to surgery, bravo. 

Those new balance are good shoes and a great deal, roll them for awhile. They are 8mm drop and cushiony. Follow that profile in future purchases and stick to new balance to make it easy. 

 

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