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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (6 Viewers)

There isn't much weather conditions I hate more than 40, wind, and rain. I mentally built myself up to deal with it earlier this week. And I was all ready to give it hell. But the snow didn't melt in time. It's a water logged, flooded mess out there. So, dreadmill take 2 this week. I'd slog through it if it were an easy run, but not the bell curve.

 
There isn't much weather conditions I hate more than 40, wind, and rain. I mentally built myself up to deal with it earlier this week. And I was all ready to give it hell. But the snow didn't melt in time. It's a water logged, flooded mess out there. So, dreadmill take 2 this week. I'd slog through it if it were an easy run, but not the bell curve.
You would if you had my shoes....

 
Went out on the treadmill last night intending to do 1.5WU, 4 at HM pace, and 1.5CD.

The 1.5WU and 1.5CD was awesome. The rest - not so much.

Was able to do 2 miles at 7:36, but I was exerting too much energy. Been fighting sinus issues all week and my diet has been sheeeeeit. So after those two miles decided to slow it down and run a slower mile 3 at 8:20 but with an incline of 3%. Then finished off with a 7:48 final mile. So it turned out to be a good workout but I was gassed.

I chalk this one up to poor diet all week. 

 
How are these "holy grail" shoes of yours different from any other trail shoes?
And even if they are superhuman I am having science issues trying to figure out how they won't become heavy after running through at least a couple inches of water for a few minutes.

 
Guys with bluetooth headphones/buds that have a wire connecting the 2 earpieces... Do you stick that wire in your shirt, clip it to something, or just let it flop like you wish you had a ponytail? 

 
How are these "holy grail" shoes of yours different from any other trail shoes?
Just pulled up their site and was comparing the ICE to the regular Peregrine trail shoe - the tread pattern is definitely different. The regular one is a more traditional trail shoe grip pattern while the Ice version has their "artic grip" tech that looks like it is more reliant on a "anti-slip" grippy rubber on the bottom rather than just a "cleat like" grip for trails/mud. 

 
How are these "holy grail" shoes of yours different from any other trail shoes?
My first pair of shoes were Pearl Izumi recommended by my triathlon friend (he was sponsored by them). Got a pair of road shoes and trail shoes. I loved the trail shoes and it was what I started out with. 

These are night and day from them. I don't know why. Now, I'm sure @Zasada and @SFBayDuck have quality trail shoes and maybe they aren't much different, but these are just so stable and grippy yet comfortable. And despite running through sloppy snow/ice, my socks remained dry too. 

So far, anyone that has picked up a FlipBelt has loved it. Just saying.....

 
For the record, I love the Peregrine Iso's I picked up recently. They are very comfortable and I've appreciated having them on the trails in the limited runs I've used them on so far. I also have a pair of Solomon Speedcross shoes that I've had for a number of years. I used them for a couple of tough mudders and also used them basically as "cleats"/utility shoes when playing softball, flag football, going kayaking, etc. The speedcross have a deeper bite/tread pattern and would be the better use in really bad conditions - i.e. more mud/less traction. But the Peregrine's fit a lot more like a running shoe and seem to have more cushion/support. 

 
My first pair of shoes were Pearl Izumi recommended by my triathlon friend (he was sponsored by them). Got a pair of road shoes and trail shoes. I loved the trail shoes and it was what I started out with. 

These are night and day from them. I don't know why. Now, I'm sure @Zasada and @SFBayDuck have quality trail shoes and maybe they aren't much different, but these are just so stable and grippy yet comfortable. And despite running through sloppy snow/ice, my socks remained dry too. 

So far, anyone that has picked up a FlipBelt has loved it. Just saying.....
I have two main concerns.  First, they're not available in widths, and I wear 2E in New Balance.  Second, they're listed at 10.4 oz versus my NB road shoes at 7.3 oz.  For the math-challenged, that's almost 50% heavier.

 
Swam over 11k this week.  I think its a new record for me training wise.
I noticed you've been killing it with your swim time.

How are you feeling coming back after the time off?  Fitness coming back?  Enjoying it?  Any race plans on the horizon?

 
Now, I'm sure @Zasada and @SFBayDuck have quality trail shoes and maybe they aren't much different, but these are just so stable and grippy yet comfortable.
Loving my Salomon Speedcross 4 -- just got the 5 but haven't run on them yet.  They've got massive lugs on them for mud/dirt/snow/etc.  I sometimes run trails with a friend who doesn't have these shoes, and he's often slipping when I have great stability. 

That said, these shoes are not so great on ice.  

And I actively dislike running streets with them.  The lugs are just too big for that.

I do need a pair of ice shoes.  Not snow, not mud, not dirt.  Just ice.  Today I had to baby-step across many glare ice sections of sidewalk and it was frustrating.

So far, anyone that has picked up a FlipBelt has loved it.
I love mine, even if Juan thinks it's a monstrosity.  The zipper is great -- don't have to step into the thing or put it over my head.  

 
Loving my Salomon Speedcross 4 -- just got the 5 but haven't run on them yet.  They've got massive lugs on them for mud/dirt/snow/etc.  I sometimes run trails with a friend who doesn't have these shoes, and he's often slipping when I have great stability. 

That said, these shoes are not so great on ice.  

And I actively dislike running streets with them.  The lugs are just too big for that.

I do need a pair of ice shoes.  Not snow, not mud, not dirt.  Just ice.  Today I had to baby-step across many glare ice sections of sidewalk and it was frustrating.

I love mine, even if Juan thinks it's a monstrosity.  The zipper is great -- don't have to step into the thing or put it over my head.  
I have the pair just for you in case you haven't heard....

See?

 
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I noticed you've been killing it with your swim time.

How are you feeling coming back after the time off?  Fitness coming back?  Enjoying it?  Any race plans on the horizon?
Slow going.  Im putting together a 80/20 (prolly more like 90/10) plan with coach for this year.  The goal is injury free with increase in volume.  Its prolly not far off of MAF type work.  I have a little more to do to prep, but once I have all the data gathering togehter im planning on sharing my approach here.  Justa little slow going at the moment.

Overall feeling pretty good.  Still cant do un-weighted lunges without discomfort.  I think it is just taking time.  I must say that the pinched nerve in the shoulder /seems/ like it is getting better.  My gut tells me I should be good by like June.  That would mean it took a full year to heal.

My fitness level is OK.  Im not doing much running and biking.  My goal is to get a solid base of 10k swimming consistently, then increase volumes of running/biking.  The only goal here being injury free in 2020.

 
@Zasada, @gruecd, @tri-man 47, @The Iguana, and @SteelCurtain......when are you guys planning on coming in and leaving?  Is anyone planning on hanging out beyond Sunday afternoon?  All are welcome but just need to look at switching up a shift (isn't a big deal and may do so anyway to recover). 
Probably similar to last year. I imagine I'll come down with @tri-man 47 on Friday afternoon, and we'll get up and head back on Sunday morning.

PS: I call dibs on the "dog-free" bedroom in the basement. :)

 
@Zasada, @gruecd, @tri-man 47, @The Iguana, and @SteelCurtain......when are you guys planning on coming in and leaving?  Is anyone planning on hanging out beyond Sunday afternoon?  All are welcome but just need to look at switching up a shift (isn't a big deal and may do so anyway to recover). 
Kind of depends on what everyone else does and/or what you have planned and/or if my wife decides to come or not. Right now, I think she is planning to stay home and do something with my daughters that weekend. Friday is my younger daughter's last day of high school - graduation isn't until the following weekend but I think they will probably do something the weekend of the 30th.

If that is the case, I'll have a lot of flexibility. It's like a 3 hour drive +/- and I'll just be driving over. Figured I'd play it by ear to see when others are arriving. I can time it such that I can be at the airport as folks arrive or whatever is needed. Also not sure what, if any packet pickup etc may be needed. But I figure I'll most likely take the day off and will have the ability to arrive in the STL area anytime after about noon-ish.

As for leaving, same kind of thing - Would like to get home at a reasonable hour but it's only a few hour drive so I'll have plenty of flexibility to drop off people for flights out of town too. 

 
Just keep in mind, we start EARLY on Saturday morning and it's an all-day thing.  We were pretty beat last year that Saturday evening.  I do recommend getting in as early as possible on Friday even though I understand travel/work schedules can be limited.  If you have to decide between getting in earlier on Friday or leaving later on Sunday, I'd suggest coming in earlier.  In fact, if anyone wants to come in on Thursday evening, you would be welcome (even if others don't). 

My kids will already be out of school and I'm off during the day so it makes no difference to me. 

 
@gianmarco - there is an outside chance I’ll arrange some work travel around this trip but it’s unlikely.  
 

if not, hope to arrive mid day Friday and leave Sunday AM.

i have a slight allergy to dogs.  No big deal but if there is a no dog room, I’d prefer that spot.  If not, I’ll survive. 

 
@gianmarco - there is an outside chance I’ll arrange some work travel around this trip but it’s unlikely.  
 

if not, hope to arrive mid day Friday and leave Sunday AM.

i have a slight allergy to dogs.  No big deal but if there is a no dog room, I’d prefer that spot.  If not, I’ll survive. 
The basement room is "dog free" in that they are never down there.  It's two twins there so you and @gruecd can have that room.  And honestly, they don't go in any of the other rooms either so you should be fine either way.  Grue hasn't had an issue as far as I know when he's been here and even my wife has an allergy to them but doesn't have any problems. 

I'm less than 20 minutes from the airport so whenever you guys flying in know your schedule, just let me know so I can put it on the calendar. 

Btw, why don't you guys PM me your email addresses so we can take the rest of it there.  I already have Grue and Tri-Man.

 
@Zasada, @gruecd, @tri-man 47, @The Iguana, and @SteelCurtain......when are you guys planning on coming in and leaving?  Is anyone planning on hanging out beyond Sunday afternoon?  All are welcome but just need to look at switching up a shift (isn't a big deal and may do so anyway to recover). 
If all you wankers don’t pose for a picture with gian sitting in his acorn chair with the rest of you surrounding him, I will drive down there and personally kick you all in the nuts. 

 
Confirmed with my wife... she is doing a weekend thing with my girls. Will be just me coming. I'll have complete flexibility on travel.

 
This was shaping up to be the perfect storm for a great race. Fitness is at an all-time high. Garmin says I’m peaking! Weather is better than ideal. Sleeping in my own bed. But..... all week I’ve been avoiding the sickness around me. Half my family has the flu/some sort of virus. About 6 of my students have it as well. 3 or 4 teachers I work closely with have it too! I’ve been carrying a gallon of hand sanitizer everywhere I go. I’ve never been this aware of trying to avoid getting sick because my immune system is awful. I always get sick.
Welp, I lasted up until yesterday. Around 9:00 am my throat was swollen and on fire. The came a stuffed up nose/face and headache. Got home from work yesterday and slept until 6:30 this morning. went for a run this morning. Although the stats were good, I was extremely lethargic and dead at the end of my 3 miler. I’m on my way to get my bib just in case I feel good in the am. As of now, I don’t think I can attempt to complete 26.2 tomorrow.

 
This was shaping up to be the perfect storm for a great race. Fitness is at an all-time high. Garmin says I’m peaking! Weather is better than ideal. Sleeping in my own bed. But..... all week I’ve been avoiding the sickness around me. Half my family has the flu/some sort of virus. About 6 of my students have it as well. 3 or 4 teachers I work closely with have it too! I’ve been carrying a gallon of hand sanitizer everywhere I go. I’ve never been this aware of trying to avoid getting sick because my immune system is awful. I always get sick.
Welp, I lasted up until yesterday. Around 9:00 am my throat was swollen and on fire. The came a stuffed up nose/face and headache. Got home from work yesterday and slept until 6:30 this morning. went for a run this morning. Although the stats were good, I was extremely lethargic and dead at the end of my 3 miler. I’m on my way to get my bib just in case I feel good in the am. As of now, I don’t think I can attempt to complete 26.2 tomorrow.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

Don't even know what to say. We all know how bad this sucks.

 
This was shaping up to be the perfect storm for a great race. Fitness is at an all-time high. Garmin says I’m peaking! Weather is better than ideal. Sleeping in my own bed. But..... all week I’ve been avoiding the sickness around me. Half my family has the flu/some sort of virus. About 6 of my students have it as well. 3 or 4 teachers I work closely with have it too! I’ve been carrying a gallon of hand sanitizer everywhere I go. I’ve never been this aware of trying to avoid getting sick because my immune system is awful. I always get sick.
Welp, I lasted up until yesterday. Around 9:00 am my throat was swollen and on fire. The came a stuffed up nose/face and headache. Got home from work yesterday and slept until 6:30 this morning. went for a run this morning. Although the stats were good, I was extremely lethargic and dead at the end of my 3 miler. I’m on my way to get my bib just in case I feel good in the am. As of now, I don’t think I can attempt to complete 26.2 tomorrow.
If you feel even modestly better tomorrow I hope you give it a shot.  I’m no doctor but sometimes I feel better when I’m out there and get the blood pumping and the lungs going.

 
Feel better Share. @JShare87

Don’t you have a 2nd race upcoming too and you were trying to get ready for this one on a shortened cycle only if things lined up great?  Setting sights on that and tailoring whatever weeks you have till race isn’t the worst thing to do with your fitness. 

 
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Feel better Share. @JShare87

Don’t you have a 2nd race upcoming too and you were trying to get ready for this one on a shortened cycle only if things lined up great?  Setting sights on that and tailoring whatever weeks you have till race isn’t the worst thing to do with your fitness. 
Agreed, if you're sick then there is no upside to trying to race. If you feel well enough to long run at less effort you will benefit more in preparation for your next attempt. Use it as a springboard to string a few weeks of quality volume together and you'll be in a better spot than you are now. 

 
Hope you are feeling better @JShare87

I went to my ortho yesterday for 4 month update.  Usually I would get my next prednisone injection, but last one only lasted for about a month and once it wore off, it left things in bad shape. I opted not to get an injection. As we had discussed at past visits, next course of therapy isn't a good one.  It would likely be surgery where they would either clear out the joint, or fuse the joint.  Neither is a slam dunk fix. My doc's recollection was that surgery isn't good for this injury, but he is going to review the literature and then come up with next recommended steps if any in the next couple of weeks. 

In 2014, i tried to get back to running and see if I could find a fix for what had been a decades old injury.  I certainly tried a lot of potential fixes, but I think I've come up empty.  But at least I now know what the injury is and can manage my life around that, which is good I guess. 

Seems like the future will at least still have some running, but at more limited mileage, probably 12 to 15 miles a week.   I'm trying to step up my biking and elliptical over the next year and see if that sticks.  So far in January, it's working good to alternate running days with gym days.  At the gym,  I'm doing elliptical and walking on treadmill while watching Netflix.  Historically, it's been tough for me to keep this going motivation wise; whereas running has never been a motivation issue.   I'm eyeballing Peloton, but that's a big $ nut. 

 
Hope you are feeling better @JShare87

I went to my ortho yesterday for 4 month update.  Usually I would get my next prednisone injection, but last one only lasted for about a month and once it wore off, it left things in bad shape. I opted not to get an injection. As we had discussed at past visits, next course of therapy isn't a good one.  It would likely be surgery where they would either clear out the joint, or fuse the joint.  Neither is a slam dunk fix. My doc's recollection was that surgery isn't good for this injury, but he is going to review the literature and then come up with next recommended steps if any in the next couple of weeks. 

In 2014, i tried to get back to running and see if I could find a fix for what had been a decades old injury.  I certainly tried a lot of potential fixes, but I think I've come up empty.  But at least I now know what the injury is and can manage my life around that, which is good I guess. 

Seems like the future will at least still have some running, but at more limited mileage, probably 12 to 15 miles a week.   I'm trying to step up my biking and elliptical over the next year and see if that sticks.  So far in January, it's working good to alternate running days with gym days.  At the gym,  I'm doing elliptical and walking on treadmill while watching Netflix.  Historically, it's been tough for me to keep this going motivation wise; whereas running has never been a motivation issue.   I'm eyeballing Peloton, but that's a big $ nut. 
Has biking ever aggravated the injury? 

 
This time last year I was trying too prepare for and convince myself I could run a sub 1:45 HM. Today I ran what was really a pretty easy HM with just me and the dog in under 1:53. My HR was basically in the 130s and low 140s most of the time. I am really looking forward to this year and seeing what I can do. 

 
I got my bib. I’m waking up at 3 am and starting my pre-race routine. I’ll see how I feel at that time and decide whether or not to make the 2 hour drive to gut it out.

 
This time last year I was trying too prepare for and convince myself I could run a sub 1:45 HM. Today I ran what was really a pretty easy HM with just me and the dog in under 1:53. My HR was basically in the 130s and low 140s most of the time. I am really looking forward to this year and seeing what I can do. 
HM PR for 🐶?

 

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