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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (5 Viewers)

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Tell me again why we do this?
I was wondering the same thing this morning.

Weather wasn't bad but I'm genuinely hating running right now. I committed to the HM/month and I'll do it, and there is a run segment in a triathlon so I do need to keep it going. But man I friggin hate running right now. It's probably a good thing I'm doing the year, or I'd be done for a while.  Probably no running races next year.

It probably doesn't help that my gut has been off the last week. Not enough to cause any real issues but nasty and frequent loose poop. I won't admit it anywhere else but I actually let loose in my pants on the way to the toilet yesterday. :bag:  I was outside drinking coffee with the dogs, the pup got in the way as I needed to get in (urge hit). A little came out. Then I felt better, so I swam a few laps. 

 
Tempo oof today.

Just flat blew up halfway in. Hot and humid, sure..and in direct sun for the tempo segment, but everything just felt off regardless. HR spiked in the 160s- for me is super high.

Probably went too hot on the first 3m which i intended to be gmp (intended 7:45s +/-) and ended up slower  than I expected on the first 2m of the planned 4m oab tempo (intended 6:50). 

At the turnaround I walked and slow jogged for a stretch to try get my HR down and get the legs back...eased back into the gmp imstead of finishimg the tempo- that felt rough but at the intended pace based on my effort. Looked at the watch and was going at 9:45s instead of 7:45s. Not quite my tempo [/whiplash].

6m from home, I knew I was in trouble and in for a brutal trip back. Thought of @SayWhat?and laughed at myself... Just jogged the best I could knowing in less than an hour- not 24- Id be in A/C and cold water.

Ended up finishing the out segment of my oab tempo in 3rd overall...which doesnt speak too highly of the local competition.

eta...just had a nice ham cramp. 
So I could be wrong on the terminology, but you said you did 3 miles at GMP.  Then wanted to do 4 miles of tempo. 

Isn't tempo = GMP?  Or am I completely wrong for all these years?

And what does OAB stand for?

 
So I could be wrong on the terminology, but you said you did 3 miles at GMP.  Then wanted to do 4 miles of tempo. 

Isn't tempo = GMP?  Or am I completely wrong for all these years?

And what does OAB stand for?
For Hanson's, they are the same, I believe. But most others consider it either 10k-15k pace, or what you can run for about an hour. 

OAB = out and back

 
For Hanson's, they are the same, I believe. But most others consider it either 10k-15k pace, or what you can run for about an hour. 

OAB = out and back
Ive been calling tempo something faster than my usual paced run, probably my 10k pace in the high 6s. But I havent done any 10k pace work, so... And i could be totally wrong about what Tempo actually is. Im just using it as prolonged faster pace thats faster than hmp or mp.

That article Fred posted recently said tempo runs were more like what steelcurtain said.

Yeah...oab = out and back

 
Boston training: Thru Week 6

1/3rd of the way through training already?!?  It was kind of a tough start as I was jump-starting the mileage while still dealing with the hamstring tendinopathy and then an early groin strain.  But that's all settled down now.  Mileage has been reasonably sufficient:

44.1 ..46.2 ..50.3 ..50.1 ..40.1 ..56.4

Two or three runs each week of double digit mileage including three 14 milers and a nice 18 miler.  

In general, while loosely following a BAA Level 4 plan, I try for two SOS workouts each week (one with tempo/intervals; one with hills) and one longer run.  This past week at the cottage I even exceeded 2,000 feet of climbing.  @Zasada literally calls that "Tuesday," but for me that exceeds my year-round monthly average. 

Looking ahead, I hope to have a strong stretch through the heart of the training cycle ...getting some weeks of 60+ miles; cruising some longer sub-MP tempo runs; continuing to target some hillier routes; and picking up a couple of 20 mile runs.   

 
Busio tweet

Some general points I see a lot making about him 

-- He is best suited as a #6. He doesn't do well as an 8 or 10 because he can't win as many duels. His defense is better when he's deep

-- As a #6, his strengths of passing and tempo work better

-- He's only 19. Still time to develop a lot, especially physically

-- Going to Serie A is going to help those deficiencies

-- Pairing him with Acosta and Lletget is not good for his skillset
How fast does he do his tempo runs?

 
Boston training: Thru Week 6

1/3rd of the way through training already?!?  It was kind of a tough start as I was jump-starting the mileage while still dealing with the hamstring tendinopathy and then an early groin strain.  But that's all settled down now.  Mileage has been reasonably sufficient:

44.1 ..46.2 ..50.3 ..50.1 ..40.1 ..56.4

Two or three runs each week of double digit mileage including three 14 milers and a nice 18 miler.  

In general, while loosely following a BAA Level 4 plan, I try for two SOS workouts each week (one with tempo/intervals; one with hills) and one longer run.  This past week at the cottage I even exceeded 2,000 feet of climbing.  @Zasada literally calls that "Tuesday," but for me that exceeds my year-round monthly average. 

Looking ahead, I hope to have a strong stretch through the heart of the training cycle ...getting some weeks of 60+ miles; cruising some longer sub-MP tempo runs; continuing to target some hillier routes; and picking up a couple of 20 mile runs.   
Ive been watching your numbers wide-eyed and so impressed. Had completely forgotten you were doing Boston, but figured you were ramping up to something.

 
I was wondering the same thing this morning.

Weather wasn't bad but I'm genuinely hating running right now. I committed to the HM/month and I'll do it, and there is a run segment in a triathlon so I do need to keep it going. But man I friggin hate running right now. It's probably a good thing I'm doing the year, or I'd be done for a while.  Probably no running races next year.

It probably doesn't help that my gut has been off the last week. Not enough to cause any real issues but nasty and frequent loose poop. I won't admit it anywhere else but I actually let loose in my pants on the way to the toilet yesterday. :bag:  I was outside drinking coffee with the dogs, the pup got in the way as I needed to get in (urge hit). A little came out. Then I felt better, so I swam a few laps. 
I've long wondered if it's just needing to prioritize training in summer, when you don't really want to. I get it isn't one size fits all, but I think summer training is easier to manage when you're early in a cycle (if at all) and not trying to hit any peaks. Try to hit a couple priorities and make sure you're not falling too far behind on volume, but if you need to cut some corners to make a weekend work then there's still time to catch up.

 
Week 2 update... not a particularly good one but a bit of a happy ending (not that kind!)

Didn't get enough mileage in, but after running the 5k on Thursday I thought I was in real trouble injury wise. Thursday night and Friday morning my back/right leg hurt pretty bad and was struggling to even walk comfortably. I was pretty worried about what I may have done. A number of years ago I actually ruptured a disk in my back and the last 2 vertebrae actually rest on each other. Running is kind of not necessarily a good idea for me but it's actually been a pretty good thing for me overall, imo. Anyway, the pain I was feeling was pretty ominous compared to issues I had 10 years ago or so.

So, I shut things down for a couple days and spent a lot of time on the floor - foam roller/ab mat, lots and lot of stretching. By yesterday I was finally feeling about back to normal. After a bit of a busy day yesterday, I have some tightness and discomfort today but nothing serious. Pretty sure I'll be fine if I just be careful for a few days and continue to do the stuff I should be doing all the time in regards to stretching and taking care of my old bones. 

 
I had a plan for this week, but it's been tossed in the garbage. Scattered afternoon storms each of the next 5 days and a golf outing Saturday has turned the plan on its side. Since I'm feeling fresh I'm gonna test my hand at a tempo Monday pm. Those storms, an evening baseball game, and lifting over lunch may lead to a less than optimal output, so if the day goes sideways I may punt to Tuesday. Hope not because that would then have a domino effect on the rest of the week, but as long as mother nature misbehaves and our calendar remains full I'm just taking things 2 days at a time. Plus I'm way ahead of where I thought I could be at this time. This sorta conditioning was more like what I hoped for in late August; not mid July!
Misc update #2 - last week was a test in flexibility, not of the literal kind.

Mon- lunch lift then baseball was rained out, so I was left trying to identify a one hour window without lightning. I threaded that needle, but there was nothing enjoyable about that 5 mile tempo (alternating between light and moderate rain, 75 degrees, 73 dew point). It was completed though. Had I not cranked it up the last mile I probably had 6 in me, but I just wanted to be done. Net pace - 6:18.

Tue + Wed- three runs totaling 15.7 of mostly recovery miles, did some pick ups on one of the Wed runs just to get the legs firing a bit. Recovery effectiveness wasn't all that great though. All sorta of problems keeping my HR below 140. Dew points in the 70's contributed, but I think I was just fatigued from the last 2 weeks and Monday's tempo. I had a workout scheduled Wed, but I deferred to Thu despite not being sure when I could fit it in. If I tried that day I'd have tapped out early.

Thu- lunch lift then evening workout. I was able to jumble around my work day to get out a half hour early, which opened just a big enough window for this workout to end at a baseball game. Unfortunately, because I opted out Wed that meant doing this in 89 degrees and 69 dew point conditions. 8x3 mins hard (2-3 mins recovery) then finish with 6x hill repeats. I didn't bother getting splits given the conditions, but scrolling over I think I managed sub 6 pace on all but one rep. It was hell. Thankfully my wife messaged me saying the game was going to start early (storms rolling in late game), so I justified only doing 4 hill repeats instead of 6. I never vomited, but I felt close to it on those reps (which I guess means I did them right).

Fri + Sat- rain, rain, and more rain. I found a dry window to 'recover' Fri, but it was even worse than Tue/Wed so I was happy with a golf outing Sat I didn't have much of a chance to run anyway. So I took the day off.

Sun- the weather 'broke' (sunny, 78/65) finally and I included enough water between the 15ish give or take drinks throughout the day Sat to stave off any hangover. I was starting to look forward to my long run, when my wife said on the walk home from mass that she wanted to do a beach/playground day with the kids. ####, how am I gonna make this work now. I fired up my laptop after we got home then got an idea...the kids still need to eat lunch, how far is it to the beach...15 miles, huh? Dear, make the kids lunch then head on down there. I'm going on foot (WAT!). That was a fitting way to end the week. And it was nice to actually net some good output too - held my aHR to 143 with a 7:32 pace. Sun didn't really become problematic until the final 2-3 miles and despite the horrendous dietary decisions the day before no bears were found.

52 miles for the week, which is now three in a row > 50. And I completed the 3 priority workouts too. This week gonna see if I can increase my mile repeat count from the last 2 efforts (I did 3) then (hopefully) extend the length of and fast finish this weekend's long run. If I find a large enough window I want to head out to the single track and double up on a MLR and some elevation sometime this week too. Mother nature appears much less #####y this week, so I expect to sustain the 50+ mpw streak.

 
I've long wondered if it's just needing to prioritize training in summer, when you don't really want to. I get it isn't one size fits all, but I think summer training is easier to manage when you're early in a cycle (if at all) and not trying to hit any peaks. Try to hit a couple priorities and make sure you're not falling too far behind on volume, but if you need to cut some corners to make a weekend work then there's still time to catch up.
Agreed. But then it's tri season 🤷‍♂️

I'm taking today off. 

 
San Diego Half Marathon 7/18/2021:

This is a training run as part of the build up to Ironman California October 24, 2021 that my wife and I are attempting together. This was our first organized race since prior to the pandemic and it was so awesome to get that pumped up feeling and great energy you get when running in these events. Back 2 Racing.....HELL YEAH! 

Mile 1-4:

We settled in with the 2:20 wave, my wife felt comfortable with that pace. My goal is normally 2:00 but this is a training race and the idea is to learn, not get hurt and have maximum fun. By San Diego standards it was already hot & humid so going out slow was fine by me. The start/finish is downtown in the Gaslamp District near the Convention Center and then heads along Harbor Blvd around Seaport Village out past the airport. Thousands of people enjoying the run, the views, the fellowship of running together again was just so awesome, I had a #### eating grin the whole time and we got thru mile 4 right on schedule.

Mile 5-7:

This was kind of a boring section that takes you around the airport, past the old Navy/Marine recruit depot. Always a little nostalgic for me as I landed here in 1985 as a 21 year old, looking for a fresh start in the Navy. It was the best decision I made at that point in my life and doing so really changed the trajectory of my life for the better. My wife was starting to get a little uncomfortable as she was hot and feeling like she was holding me up. We have an agreement that if she tells me to take off, I do it. I paused a little just to confirm as it was heating up and I wanted to make sure she was ok, she assured me she was good to go so I gave her a kiss and headed out at my own pace. I sped up a little bit (9:30ish), but knew that I needed to conserve energy, not overheat and prepare for the beast that lie ahead.

Mile 8-11:

I had read the course elevation map and noticed the significant hill at mile 8. I told myself that no matter how steep it got or how tired I was, I would run up these hills. The old Mike Tyson saying comes to mind, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in he mouth," nevermore has this adage come into play for me. There was a guy on the road that held up a sign with temps & humidity's that were scratched out and updated starting at 72 degrees and 75% humidity, it also said "PERFECT" It was 82 and 85% when I passed thru, PERFECT! I did the best I could and gutted out the first of a series of smaller hills but then I hit Washington St. and it was all over. I power walked and ran, power walked and ran with all of the other walkers going up that nasty hill. Only two people passed me, one was a guy that looked a little like @SFBayDuck, big ### grin on his face and a middle aged lady that looked very strong and up to the task. We would meet at the top of the hill....

Mile 12-13.1:

Thankfully, water, hoses, gatorade, iced towels awaited us at the top. Volunteers are so great at these races!! After walking though the water stop I picked it up again thinking I had a chance to make 2 hours if I really hoofed it. What goes up has to go down and it did in the SD Half. The last 1.5 miles is all down hill starting in Hillcrest, then adjacent to Balboa Park, Bankers Hill into downtown to the finish under the Gaslamp District sign. I felt really strong and was ready to attack the downhill when just in front of me that same lady that passed me going up the hill, fell flat on her face, screaming in pain! A couple of us stopped to help her. It appeared that she had twisted her knee and could not get up unassisted. Another guy and myself carried her into the shade and called for medical support. They were on the scene in less than a minute...kudo's to those awesome people! 2:00 was now off the table but I picked up the pace and ran to downtown San Diego feeling super strong and dare I say, fast :lol:  between 8-9 min/miles to finish the run. My wife came in 12 minutes later and I was able to get some good pics of her crossing the line looking incredible!

2:14:57 avg 10:18mi 

Next Up:

Santa Barbara Triathlon 8/28/21 for my first official Tri.

 
San Diego Half Marathon 7/18/2021:

This is a training run as part of the build up to Ironman California October 24, 2021 that my wife and I are attempting together. This was our first organized race since prior to the pandemic and it was so awesome to get that pumped up feeling and great energy you get when running in these events. Back 2 Racing.....HELL YEAH! 

Mile 1-4:

We settled in with the 2:20 wave, my wife felt comfortable with that pace. My goal is normally 2:00 but this is a training race and the idea is to learn, not get hurt and have maximum fun. By San Diego standards it was already hot & humid so going out slow was fine by me. The start/finish is downtown in the Gaslamp District near the Convention Center and then heads along Harbor Blvd around Seaport Village out past the airport. Thousands of people enjoying the run, the views, the fellowship of running together again was just so awesome, I had a #### eating grin the whole time and we got thru mile 4 right on schedule.

Mile 5-7:

This was kind of a boring section that takes you around the airport, past the old Navy/Marine recruit depot. Always a little nostalgic for me as I landed here in 1985 as a 21 year old, looking for a fresh start in the Navy. It was the best decision I made at that point in my life and doing so really changed the trajectory of my life for the better. My wife was starting to get a little uncomfortable as she was hot and feeling like she was holding me up. We have an agreement that if she tells me to take off, I do it. I paused a little just to confirm as it was heating up and I wanted to make sure she was ok, she assured me she was good to go so I gave her a kiss and headed out at my own pace. I sped up a little bit (9:30ish), but knew that I needed to conserve energy, not overheat and prepare for the beast that lie ahead.

Mile 8-11:

I had read the course elevation map and noticed the significant hill at mile 8. I told myself that no matter how steep it got or how tired I was, I would run up these hills. The old Mike Tyson saying comes to mind, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in he mouth," nevermore has this adage come into play for me. There was a guy on the road that held up a sign with temps & humidity's that were scratched out and updated starting at 72 degrees and 75% humidity, it also said "PERFECT" It was 82 and 85% when I passed thru, PERFECT! I did the best I could and gutted out the first of a series of smaller hills but then I hit Washington St. and it was all over. I power walked and ran, power walked and ran with all of the other walkers going up that nasty hill. Only two people passed me, one was a guy that looked a little like @SFBayDuck, big ### grin on his face and a middle aged lady that looked very strong and up to the task. We would meet at the top of the hill....

Mile 12-13.1:

Thankfully, water, hoses, gatorade, iced towels awaited us at the top. Volunteers are so great at these races!! After walking though the water stop I picked it up again thinking I had a chance to make 2 hours if I really hoofed it. What goes up has to go down and it did in the SD Half. The last 1.5 miles is all down hill starting in Hillcrest, then adjacent to Balboa Park, Bankers Hill into downtown to the finish under the Gaslamp District sign. I felt really strong and was ready to attack the downhill when just in front of me that same lady that passed me going up the hill, fell flat on her face, screaming in pain! A couple of us stopped to help her. It appeared that she had twisted her knee and could not get up unassisted. Another guy and myself carried her into the shade and called for medical support. They were on the scene in less than a minute...kudo's to those awesome people! 2:00 was now off the table but I picked up the pace and ran to downtown San Diego feeling super strong and dare I say, fast :lol:  between 8-9 min/miles to finish the run. My wife came in 12 minutes later and I was able to get some good pics of her crossing the line looking incredible!

2:14:57 avg 10:18mi 

Next Up:

Santa Barbara Triathlon 8/28/21 for my first official Tri.
Nice!

Sounds like a great race for both of you, and good for you for helping the woman... especially since you knew you weren't "racing" for a time. (probalby would have given her the heisman stiff-arm if you were really serious about getting under 2, amirite?)

remind me- IM California in October... is that a full or a half IM?

 
Nice!

Sounds like a great race for both of you, and good for you for helping the woman... especially since you knew you weren't "racing" for a time. (probalby would have given her the heisman stiff-arm if you were really serious about getting under 2, amirite?)

remind me- IM California in October... is that a full or a half IM?
Yep.

Got me thinking. You're racing, it's mile 24, you're on pace to get a BQ. It's your first one. Guy next to you goes down. Not a medical emergency like heart attack where he needs his life saved, but say something like this lady or a bad knee injury or something, really in pain, could use some assistance until medical comes but would also survive if you didn't.

You stopping?

Does it matter if there are other runners around vs just you?

 
Yep.

Got me thinking. You're racing, it's mile 24, you're on pace to get a BQ. It's your first one. Guy next to you goes down. Not a medical emergency like heart attack where he needs his life saved, but say something like this lady or a bad knee injury or something, really in pain, could use some assistance until medical comes but would also survive if you didn't.

You stopping?

Does it matter if there are other runners around vs just you?
Tough one.  I probably ask him if he's needs help.  If he gives me anything close to a 'no', I get back to the race.

Would not really know what I would do until actually in the moment, though.  

And it would matter if other runners had already stopped.

 
Yep.

Got me thinking. You're racing, it's mile 24, you're on pace to get a BQ. It's your first one. Guy next to you goes down. Not a medical emergency like heart attack where he needs his life saved, but say something like this lady or a bad knee injury or something, really in pain, could use some assistance until medical comes but would also survive if you didn't.

You stopping?

Does it matter if there are other runners around vs just you?
I would stop briefly to make sure it wasn't life threatening. If I'm that close to qualifying for Boston, knowing I need a 10 minute cushion probably anyway - I can spare 30 seconds to help someone.

If it is life threatening, I'm stopping every time. 

 
Nice!

Sounds like a great race for both of you, and good for you for helping the woman... especially since you knew you weren't "racing" for a time. (probalby would have given her the heisman stiff-arm if you were really serious about getting under 2, amirite?)

remind me- IM California in October... is that a full or a half IM?
Full IM…https://www.ironman.com/im-california-course

There was no “not stopping” in my case. She went down right in front of me and was really in pain. She couldn’t even communicate what was wrong at first. I was a Navy corpsman that has performed EMS so there’s that too. There were 4 of us (2 men/2 women) that stopped and a few more that ran on once they knew she was being tended to. The whole incident took about 5 minutes from the time she went down, assessing the situation, getting her to shade and wait for the medics to arrive. As it turned out, I would not have broke 2hrs. anyway but even if it was going to be close, I still had to stop. 

 
gianmarco said:
Yep.

Got me thinking. You're racing, it's mile 24, you're on pace to get a BQ. It's your first one. Guy next to you goes down. Not a medical emergency like heart attack where he needs his life saved, but say something like this lady or a bad knee injury or something, really in pain, could use some assistance until medical comes but would also survive if you didn't.

You stopping?

Does it matter if there are other runners around vs just you?
I don’t understand why any injured runner would want  other runners to stop due to their knee injury. 

 
I told my IM story about proposing right before the end, but realizing I was closing in on an hour mark and seriously debating doing it after the finish if it was going to impact me. 

 
bostonfred said:
anyone want to try the ridiculous core workout program i just started

https://youtu.be/pcYYUU5tIxU

Bring Sally up bring Sally down push up planks with side knees/plank waves just to spice it up.  Day 1 I got through 18 of the 30 before quitting 
Day 1 18

Day 2 23

Day 3 27

Day 4 finished all 30. 

Sweating badly, and pretty sure my form could use work because I feel it in my shoulders and arms. Some of that is just doing pushups, but some of it is holding myself up for the plank waves and knee lifts and putting pressure in spots i don't need to. Will focus more on form than on finishing next time.  

I really do feel it in my core all day.  I used to have a really weak core but I've gotten stronger and lighter so I can do more in general.  There's no way I could have done this two years ago although I don't know for sure because I never would have tried.  

 
gianmarco said:
Yep.

Got me thinking. You're racing, it's mile 24, you're on pace to get a BQ. It's your first one. Guy next to you goes down. Not a medical emergency like heart attack where he needs his life saved, but say something like this lady or a bad knee injury or something, really in pain, could use some assistance until medical comes but would also survive if you didn't.

You stopping?

Does it matter if there are other runners around vs just you?
"Just" a BQ, or a BQ with the requisite cushion?  It matters.  ;)  

 
Right! I kinda remember... You guys are working with a coach, iirc?

But man- jumping right into the deep end if that upcoming santa Barbara tri is going to be your first! How long is that tri?
 Yes on the coach. Ida crushed myself already if not for him. We connect Strava to Training Tilt so he can monitor our progress then have weekly Zooms to review, get advice & encouragement or a kick in the ###.

SB Tri 1mile Ocean swim, 34 mile bike, 10 mile run then 15 days later (9/12) is Santa Cruz Half Ironman (another ocean swim). Yeah, it's an ambitious schedule but I like the training and will continue to train for multi-sport events going forward. The light suddenly clicked on in regards to swimming (TY lava shorts). Where once it was a struggle to go 2 lengths of the pool, I am able to swim as far as I need to non-stop. I'm no @JAAin the water but I'm comfortable at least and found that I really enjoy the ZEN moments of a swim when they come around. Need to get some more open water swims in but they are coming soon. We have an Olympic & Half IM length practice sessions coming up on the calendar as well a number of increasingly longer bikes with run after's. The nutrition/hydration balance is a mix of PB&J, Tailwind, Gels, Honey Stingers & Waffles & water. I've been working on different mixes of each and still need to fine tune that.

Have a great week! 

 
gianmarco said:
Yep.

Got me thinking. You're racing, it's mile 24, you're on pace to get a BQ. It's your first one. Guy next to you goes down. Not a medical emergency like heart attack where he needs his life saved, but say something like this lady or a bad knee injury or something, really in pain, could use some assistance until medical comes but would also survive if you didn't.

You stopping?

Does it matter if there are other runners around vs just you?
Not a ####### chance.

 
Well, my fitness feels like it's in the crapper. That whole post of mine from a week or 2 ago is just funny at this point. I'll give it a go for that time I mentioned, but I will bail on it if things aren't going well and I'm thinking at this point that's exactly what's going to happen. 

It's funny because things are almost completely opposite from the marathon we ran almost a year ago. Last year, I was more nervous for my wife (her injury, the course, getting paced) whereas I wasn't nervous for mine at all. I didn't care what time I had and was just going with the 4 hr pacer and didn't care if I had to slow down. And, I wasn't nervous about the distance because I had trained reasonably well with a decent number of long runs and I felt ready.

This year, I'm not worried about her at all. She's in great shape and she's ready. Meanwhile I'm incredibly nervous for myself (and I don't usually get that way for races). And it's not a good nervous. It's a nervous that it's not going to go well and/or I'm going to struggle mightily. And I'm nowhere near as prepared as I was last year. 

Even on my run yesterday and today,I keep thinking about it and I can feel my HR going up with anxiety about it. And again, I'm not a nervous/anxious type of person. I even slept pretty awfully last night and kept dreaming about this dumb race.

I'm going to channel my last two long runs and remember that pain cave and I'll get through it. But definitely not looking forward to this thing.

Oh well, few more days. Fly out tomorrow. Weeeeeeee

 
Well, my fitness feels like it's in the crapper. That whole post of mine from a week or 2 ago is just funny at this point. I'll give it a go for that time I mentioned, but I will bail on it if things aren't going well and I'm thinking at this point that's exactly what's going to happen. 

It's funny because things are almost completely opposite from the marathon we ran almost a year ago. Last year, I was more nervous for my wife (her injury, the course, getting paced) whereas I wasn't nervous for mine at all. I didn't care what time I had and was just going with the 4 hr pacer and didn't care if I had to slow down. And, I wasn't nervous about the distance because I had trained reasonably well with a decent number of long runs and I felt ready.

This year, I'm not worried about her at all. She's in great shape and she's ready. Meanwhile I'm incredibly nervous for myself (and I don't usually get that way for races). And it's not a good nervous. It's a nervous that it's not going to go well and/or I'm going to struggle mightily. And I'm nowhere near as prepared as I was last year. 

Even on my run yesterday and today,I keep thinking about it and I can feel my HR going up with anxiety about it. And again, I'm not a nervous/anxious type of person. I even slept pretty awfully last night and kept dreaming about this dumb race.

I'm going to channel my last two long runs and remember that pain cave and I'll get through it. But definitely not looking forward to this thing.

Oh well, few more days. Fly out tomorrow. Weeeeeeee
Here's my .02:

I know it has not gone as you have planned in terms of training, but don't beat yourself up about it. You've sacrificed a lot of your personal running time and a lot of your life so your wife can make an honest crack at Boston.

And that tells me a lot about you as a man and as a husband. It's hard to be selfless in this day and age, and you have demonstrated your love for your wife and more important in your character in how you have put her before you.

You deserve a ton of credit for that. Enjoy your day, enjoy the weather, enjoy the scenery - and just have fun. There will be other races.

 
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Well, my fitness feels like it's in the crapper. That whole post of mine from a week or 2 ago is just funny at this point. I'll give it a go for that time I mentioned, but I will bail on it if things aren't going well and I'm thinking at this point that's exactly what's going to happen. 

It's funny because things are almost completely opposite from the marathon we ran almost a year ago. Last year, I was more nervous for my wife (her injury, the course, getting paced) whereas I wasn't nervous for mine at all. I didn't care what time I had and was just going with the 4 hr pacer and didn't care if I had to slow down. And, I wasn't nervous about the distance because I had trained reasonably well with a decent number of long runs and I felt ready.

This year, I'm not worried about her at all. She's in great shape and she's ready. Meanwhile I'm incredibly nervous for myself (and I don't usually get that way for races). And it's not a good nervous. It's a nervous that it's not going to go well and/or I'm going to struggle mightily. And I'm nowhere near as prepared as I was last year. 

Even on my run yesterday and today,I keep thinking about it and I can feel my HR going up with anxiety about it. And again, I'm not a nervous/anxious type of person. I even slept pretty awfully last night and kept dreaming about this dumb race.

I'm going to channel my last two long runs and remember that pain cave and I'll get through it. But definitely not looking forward to this thing.

Oh well, few more days. Fly out tomorrow. Weeeeeeee
I swear this mirrors what I'd go through all of my tapers. self-doubt, feeling sick, running slow... I'm hoping that's all it is for you. you've had some flat out great long runs leading up to this, and I have full confidence you'll be able to race this as if it was all downhill. so to speak.

 
my runs have gotten slower and shorter too. 

pushed today to lower a couple of strava segment times before we head back to NYC on thursday (local runners aren't too fast, so I've gotten in the top 10 in all 3 local segments I've tried) and couldn't. my previous times weren't even that fast for me, but I just couldn't get the legs turning over fast or efficient enough. each one of these was just shy of a mile, and I couldn't get sub 6:40 either time.

not sure what's going on, but hoping to do some longer runs at pace when we get back and to hit my bridge/hills again. 

 
Well, my fitness feels like it's in the crapper. That whole post of mine from a week or 2 ago is just funny at this point. I'll give it a go for that time I mentioned, but I will bail on it if things aren't going well and I'm thinking at this point that's exactly what's going to happen. 

It's funny because things are almost completely opposite from the marathon we ran almost a year ago. Last year, I was more nervous for my wife (her injury, the course, getting paced) whereas I wasn't nervous for mine at all. I didn't care what time I had and was just going with the 4 hr pacer and didn't care if I had to slow down. And, I wasn't nervous about the distance because I had trained reasonably well with a decent number of long runs and I felt ready.

This year, I'm not worried about her at all. She's in great shape and she's ready. Meanwhile I'm incredibly nervous for myself (and I don't usually get that way for races). And it's not a good nervous. It's a nervous that it's not going to go well and/or I'm going to struggle mightily. And I'm nowhere near as prepared as I was last year. 

Even on my run yesterday and today,I keep thinking about it and I can feel my HR going up with anxiety about it. And again, I'm not a nervous/anxious type of person. I even slept pretty awfully last night and kept dreaming about this dumb race.

I'm going to channel my last two long runs and remember that pain cave and I'll get through it. But definitely not looking forward to this thing.

Oh well, few more days. Fly out tomorrow. Weeeeeeee
Well, that long run in Wisconsin had to come from somewhere.  Hopefully cooler weather helps more than you think it will.

 
my runs have gotten slower and shorter too. 

pushed today to lower a couple of strava segment times before we head back to NYC on thursday (local runners aren't too fast, so I've gotten in the top 10 in all 3 local segments I've tried) and couldn't. my previous times weren't even that fast for me, but I just couldn't get the legs turning over fast or efficient enough. each one of these was just shy of a mile, and I couldn't get sub 6:40 either time.

not sure what's going on, but hoping to do some longer runs at pace when we get back and to hit my bridge/hills again. 
It's summer and you haven't seen a dew point below 70 since July 4. These are not the sorta conditions to expect your fitness to ascend. You're in a good spot, your body is just asking for some relief. Hopefully mother nature will offer some as well sooner rather than later. 

 
Even on my run yesterday and today,I keep thinking about it and I can feel my HR going up with anxiety about it. And again, I'm not a nervous/anxious type of person. I even slept pretty awfully last night and kept dreaming about this dumb race
Try to hang loose GB. You’re going to be running a very cool looking course (don’t ferget yer headlamp) and will hopefully be getting favorable temps/conditions relative to your past few months of runs. I like the pros list from last weeks post, do that. 

 
bostonfred said:
anyone want to try the ridiculous core workout program i just started

https://youtu.be/pcYYUU5tIxU

Bring Sally up bring Sally down push up planks with side knees/plank waves just to spice it up.  Day 1 I got through 18 of the 30 before quitting 
18, 23, 27, complete, complete.  I'm still a little sore from doing 90 minutes on the treadmill last night but I think my form even improved a little today.

 

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