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Actually the controversy/debate about the newer shoe styles continues as they've now made their way to the track events.The top 3 runners all wore Nike Vaporfly Next % 2s.
Actually the controversy/debate about the newer shoe styles continues as they've now made their way to the track events.The top 3 runners all wore Nike Vaporfly Next % 2s.
Sorry about the delay. Just trying to catch up here.
Have you thought about getting some shoes with a slightly higher drop which may take some of the stress off the achilles?
Just a thought.
I find it kind of an interesting line to try to draw/debate to have. I think a lot of it comes down really to the sponsorship aspect of the sport. While they talk about the track technology, no one is really complaining about it. Everyone is competing on the same playing field - literally. I am not an expert on the inner workings of high level track athletes but I am fairly confident that all of them are part of various sponsorship 'packages'. So, when it comes to the shoes, everyone basically has access to the same technology but due to sponsorship deals, some of them are excluded from the Nikes. Which is kind of different than someone doing something they "shouldn't".Actually the controversy/debate about the newer shoe styles continues as they've now made their way to the track events.
With the times you’ve been laying down, I’d say focus on the next Olympics.Week 5 Report
62.4 miles this week. That was a little less than past weeks but planned since I decided to run fast twice during the week.
Runs of note:
Tuesday's 800 intervals averaged 2:41 which was an improvement over 2:45 average last week. I'd like to get this down to the 2:30 to 2:35 range. I don't think I can fit in intervals every week since I want to focus on other things too but maybe I could do them two out of every three weeks.
Thursday I ran 5.5 at 5:44 pace. I mentioned on Strava that it was rough. I would have liked to have run 6 under 5:40 pace but even though heart rate was OK, the effort level seemed too high and aches and pains were more noticeable. I decided that 5.5 was enough. Leg fatigue was a factor from this increase in volume and intensity I've been doing. I was achy near the end of my 20-miler yesterday (and really all day yesterday). It's a sign that I need to be careful with my limits.
I signed up for a half marathon for September 4. The goal is to average under 6:00 pace the whole way. This week I want to practice HM pace with a run of at least 8 miles. I'm not sure what else I want to do. I'll just see how I feel.
I like your chances as long as you have decent weather on race day. After the half will set you marathon goal?I signed up for a half marathon for September 4. The goal is to average under 6:00 pace the whole way.
At least you were attempting something productive, I learned the knee pain I often get when I visit the shore is from sitting in my beach chair. I guess I’ll have to get a chair that isn’t so low.PT on Friday helped with some right inner and left hammy tightness. Both were not helped by a hallmark of my idiocy, trying to chop down a tree Wednesday night like I’m that guy or even have a sharp ax.
That will still be 8 weeks out. I guess there would be plenty of other runs that could change things. For the most part, though, I already have goals. Main goal is 2:49:59. Best case scenario is something like 2:46. I’d still be happy to be in the low 2:5Xs if that is all I have. But no doubt the half will be helpful in figuring out where I’m at.I like your chances as long as you have decent weather on race day. After the half will you set your marathon goal?
I wish I had some good recommendations but I'm far from a shoe expert. I would just go to a dedicated shoe store and explain what you are looking for.I hadn't thought of that... Thanks.
Any recs?
That's a dirty freakin move.I posted this on FB, too, but did anybody else see this POS in the men’s marathon yesterday? Dude should be DQ’d and banned for life.
I run in Hoka Clifton 7s, fwiw.I wish I had some good recommendations but I'm far from a shoe expert. I would just go to a dedicated shoe store and explain what you are looking for.
I guess you could use google too to help determine similar shoes to what you run in that have a higher drop.
I just know when I went to a low drop shoe, my calves and achilles got cranky until I figured out what happened. Then I stretched them pretty extensively after every run with that low drop shoe and things calmed down.
A quick peek at this, tells me Mizuno Waverider has a 12mm drop. That may be something to try at the store?I run in Hoka Clifton 7s, fwiw.
A quick peek at this, tells me Mizuno Waverider has a 12mm drop. That may be something to try at the store?
I've run in the Clifton, Brooks Ghost and Mizuno Waverider. I liked the Waverider. Its worth trying at the store to see if its comfortable for you.
Big fan of the Waverider. Been wearing them for my entire running career.
Geez ...in the Olympics, no less. He's gotta live with it for the rest of his running career, if nothing else. Every race he ever runs, now, he'll be "that guy." #pariahI posted this on FB, too, but did anybody else see this POS in the men’s marathon yesterday? Dude should be DQ’d and banned for life.
Ha. I think the Waverider is a very good training shoe. Its a steady performer for long runs. Its not as cushion-y as the Clifton. But I also wouldn't ever race in the waverider. According to the link I sent you, its heavier than the Clifton. But it may be perfect for what you are looking for....a shoe to take the stress off your achilles during your training runs. Just choose a lighter faster shoe for race day.So if you want to go slow, get the Waverider.
Don't discount the knowledge you gained in your first marathon. Its not an insignificant feat and to learn nutrition, pacing, and how that last 10K feels will only help you in 2021.Week 5
This was the first week since week 1 that really went "as planned. As noted above, the long run felt awful but the good news is that I really feel pretty good today. Also spent some time last night looking at my runs from 2 years ago. I am definitely behind what I did then but in reading through some of my own comments and looking at the data from the runs, it could be worse. I don't exactly feel great about where I am as compared to where I want to be, but I do think I have a lot of things I can do better between now and November than what I did 2 years ago, so I have that going for me. Basically I'm behind the curve, but there are opportunities to catch up and get in front of it if I can have/find the discipline going forward from now.
So, onward and upward...
I see you. Crushed it.My Week Recap --
Monday -- I thought about running
Tuesday -- Really thought about running.
Wednesday -- Got out for a few miles and ended up killing it on a 5 mile run. Started at an 11:00 pace and legs opened up for a 10:39 on my 2nd mile. By 3 and 4 I settled back down and then smoked a LMF 10:29 to finish up.
Thursday -- I thought about my Wednesday run
Friday -- Didn't really think about running
Saturday -- Read the running thread and watched other people run
Sunday -- Thinking of running next week
Overall, really happy with how things turned out. Wanted to make sure I didn't overdo things and I feel like I accomplished that about as well as I could.
I even got a notification from Strava. I think it was on Friday. It was like "You've only done 5 miles this week."I see you. Crushed it.
Mapmyrun would never disparage you.I even got a notification from Strava. I think it was on Friday. It was like "You've only done 5 miles this week."
I'm thinking "hmm, that's a new feature". I also thought "#### off, I get enough of that #### at home and in this thread, I don't need it from you too".
Almost uninstalled.
Premium.I even got a notification from Strava. I think it was on Friday. It was like "You've only done 5 miles this week."
I'm thinking "hmm, that's a new feature". I also thought "#### off, I get enough of that #### at home and in this thread, I don't need it from you too".
Almost uninstalled.
Updated. Thanks.With fall racing season right around the corner, I made sure my entries in the FBG Race Calendar were up to date. You should do the same!
ALL around France ...he just finished a couple of epic rides. I'd love to read a ride report on those.I see him still riding around France on Strava, so I have to assume he hasn't moved yet.
Whats his initials? I'm not sure I follow him.ALL around France ...he just finished a couple of epic rides. I'd love to read a ride report on those.
Rhymes with Ferris.Whats his initials? I'm not sure I follow him.
I haven’t complained about the weather in some time but suck indexes upcoming (all for 6:00 a.m.):
Tuesday 142
Wednesday 152
Thursday 147
179 tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. @tri-man 47 Good time for some heat training?Our SI when I get home from work will be 168.
Well, to quote the inimitable @ChiefD ...no. These will be a few miserable days with the SI staying above 140 throughout. I'm not sure I have any more weight to sweat off.179 tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. @tri-man 47 Good time for some heat training?
I did as well, I am considering using them for the marathon as they may be good to carry some gels.I did order some Baleaf running shorts that @Zasada had mentioned recently. They're incredibly light, though they do get clingy with sweat. They are easy on the 'boys,' though.
I haven’t complained about the weather in some time but suck indexes upcoming (all for 6:00 a.m.):
Tuesday 142
Wednesday 152
Thursday 147
I did as well, I am considering using them for the marathon as they may be good to carry some gels.
Speaking of gels what are people using now? I have used Clif and Honey Stingers in the past. I think I saw they will have the Clif gels on the course so it may sense to stick with that.
I copped a pair with the long liner and back center pocket. Phone is a bit bouncy and they are hotter than some similar style brooks I have that are butter but cost 3x more.I did as well, I am considering using them for the marathon as they may be good to carry some gels.
Speaking of gels what are people using now? I have used Clif and Honey Stingers in the past. I think I saw they will have the Clif gels on the course so it may sense to stick with that.
I expected that to be a farmers market pie.I'm a honey stinger kind of guy.
Big fan of these. I would use these on long runs about mile 16. Tastes like apple pie. A great mental boost in addition to the nutrition.
For the record... that run Saturday felt nothing like "being back" but I felt pretty good Sunday, really kind of wanted to run but didn't. Went out tonight for what counts as a hilly 10k for me with a150+ SI. Full rollercoaster effect in force as I'm feeling sort of back today.That's when you know when you are back. You had every opportunity to quit, and you didn't.
Now build on this.
I was thinking about getting these shorts with the liner. I have to go find the link to this. (If you have it handy, please text it to me.)I copped a pair with the long liner and back center pocket. Phone is a bit bouncy and they are hotter than some similar style brooks I have that are butter but cost 3x more.
I had been trying Maureen pre 2020 and guess I liked them fine. Weird like jello but fine, didn’t change my world but would buy again I suppose. I come back to Gu Roctane most often and have a bunch I’ll work with come fall or whenever I want to start fueling training runs.