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gruecd
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ChiefD
Footballguy
If that's the case, you take this time with all the set backs and just enjoy these runs:
1. Boston: you get to run the one Boston Marathon that is being staged in the fall. That is historical.
2. Indy: you get to see a large group of friends and partake in the before, the during, and the after with them.
You are so competitive, and these are two opportunities to just run and enjoy the moments. Reset after these two races and train like hell for a PR in the spring.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I'd run Boston. Life is short. We don't know if some crazy COVID variant shuts down the marathon for years at a time (I know....a bit dramatic, but you never know.)
Physically, as you get older, you just don't know if you'll be able to keep churning out BQ's at will.
Once your kid is older, your life will be packed with sports games, musical concerts, girl scouts, etc. NOW is the time to get away, before the weekend commitments are constant with her.
For me, I'm actually looking forward to the rolling start. Sitting around Athlete's Village isn't really a highlight for me. And the first few miles of the race is always jam packed. So I'm looking forward to getting off the bus, quick dynamic warmup, hit the porta potty and off I go when I want to go. And hopefully the first few miles will be more enjoyable than in normal years.
If you aren't in PR shape for Indy, then all the more reason to go to Boston and just have fun with it. I'm hoping on running a 4 hour race and just enjoying the sights and sounds of the most historic marathon in the world.
And didn't you say you have a cheap hotel because you got it before the race was officially moved. Seems like a no brainer to run.
xulf
Footballguy
Todays run completed my first ever 60 mile week. My body hates me.
Im not sure what I'm going to do about adjusting my race goals at this point. Hammy still is not near 100%, but I'm getting the work in. Though, the fitness feels compromised
Todays run has confirmed to me that I need to pullback on my training and make some goal adjustments. I'm coming off the highest mileage week I've ever had, but everything keeps going in the wrong direction fitness wise. I'm planning on chopping down some miles and really focus on keeping my HR low.
I tried for something ambitious, but my body just isnt there yet. At this point, I just want to race, finish, and not be injured.
tri-man 47
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Tough call. With a slightly smaller crowd and the rolling start, you might enjoy the race in an entirely different way. But I think it'd be hard on you to run an 'easy' marathon that might not be all that easy, given the training.
I still haven't seen anything on race day logistics ...feeling rather anxious about whether they'll run the usual suburban shuttles from the Southborough train station near the AirBnB I rented.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Beyond what @Steel Curtainsaid (he's right!) let's be real - given where you are right now and considering that Indy is less than 2 months away you're not PR'ing. Could it happen? Sure, anything's possible. It'd take a combination of anti-science luck and a Seattle Gian dose of grit to happen though.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I think you should feel fairly confident they will be running shuttles from somewhere in Metrowest into the start area. There are just too many runners from out there that don't want to trek in to Boston just to bus it back out. Plus this is all about de-densifying everything so having multiple ways to get to the start seems to make sense.
I also don't think they will police the start times and bus times. NYC assigns you a bus time but when you get to the bus boarding area, they just put you on the bus regardless of whether you are early or late. I would guess Boston will do the same.
THAT BEING SAID, Everything I just said is my opinion. I haven't seen any confirmation of anything I stated.
tri-man 47
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gianmarco
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Hitchhiking might be fun. Who wouldn’t pick up a tall, skinny runner in knee-high compression socks on race morning?
gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
I disagree pretty strongly with this. At least as far as the buses go. And once you get out there, I think they're gonna want to see the staging area completely emptied out before they unload the next bus.
JShare87
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
Like I told Gian late spring, would love to be proven wrong. Just can't cut corners in marathon prep. Unless you're Seattle Gian anyway!Hey, thanks for the vote of confidence!
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
They will police whether you have a bib. But if it’s 8:05 and you are assigned to 8:15 boarding time, I’ll bet you drinks they aren’t stopping those people.
If you have run NYC, you know they are just loading busses as fast as they can.
As per their website “we strongly recommend you follow your bus boarding time”. That’s soft language for the B.A.A.
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gianmarco
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ChiefD
Footballguy
gruecd
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gruecd
Footballguy
Wife gave me a massive guilt trip when I tried running after work yesterday (before coming home), and then by the time we put the baby down at 7pm, I was too tired. So I got up at 4:00 this morning for an 8-mile zombie run, and hopefully this afternoon I'll have enough energy to do another 8 miles with 10 x 3 minutes fast. Worst-case scenario, I'll do the workout tomorrow instead (on my scheduled rest day).
I seem to have navigated my little pneumonia thing reasonably well, still getting in 60 miles last week including one decent speed workout. Legs are showing a little bit of pep, but as @MAC_32 so kindly pointed out, I've only got about 7 weeks until Indy, and with Boston smack-dab in the middle messing everything up, I'm not sure how much improvement I'll be able to make. I do know that if I can somehow clean up my diet and drop 7-10 lbs before race day, it'll help immensely. That said, between travel and Brewers/Packers/Bucks games, my calendar is absolutely jam-packed the next couple of months, and I tend to make terrible food choices when I'm busy/tired/stressed. So we'll see...
Regarding Boston, I do think I'm gonna go. Actually found out yesterday that the 25-year-old daughter of a new (large) client of mine will also be running after having qualified with a 2:56 marathon at Jack & Jill 2019. (Given that pretty much all I do is talk about running, I have no idea how this hadn't already come up in conversation.) Anyway, the whole family is going to be out there watching her run, making it a great opportunity for me to meet everyone and to strengthen/deepen the relationship. Having reflected on what you guys all said, I was already leaning towards going, but this pushed me over the edge.
I seem to have navigated my little pneumonia thing reasonably well, still getting in 60 miles last week including one decent speed workout. Legs are showing a little bit of pep, but as @MAC_32 so kindly pointed out, I've only got about 7 weeks until Indy, and with Boston smack-dab in the middle messing everything up, I'm not sure how much improvement I'll be able to make. I do know that if I can somehow clean up my diet and drop 7-10 lbs before race day, it'll help immensely. That said, between travel and Brewers/Packers/Bucks games, my calendar is absolutely jam-packed the next couple of months, and I tend to make terrible food choices when I'm busy/tired/stressed. So we'll see...
Regarding Boston, I do think I'm gonna go. Actually found out yesterday that the 25-year-old daughter of a new (large) client of mine will also be running after having qualified with a 2:56 marathon at Jack & Jill 2019. (Given that pretty much all I do is talk about running, I have no idea how this hadn't already come up in conversation.) Anyway, the whole family is going to be out there watching her run, making it a great opportunity for me to meet everyone and to strengthen/deepen the relationship. Having reflected on what you guys all said, I was already leaning towards going, but this pushed me over the edge.
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El Floppo
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GL running your marathons, grue. I get the mental challenge of knowing you're not there to PR... super hard.
speaking of not PRing...
had to run half a block with floppinha to catch the bus this morning (city bus, not school bus). first time I've run more than a few feet in weeks. half block and my achilles felt like spikes had been driven though them. :( I was even wearing my Hokas.
speaking of not PRing...
had to run half a block with floppinha to catch the bus this morning (city bus, not school bus). first time I've run more than a few feet in weeks. half block and my achilles felt like spikes had been driven though them. :( I was even wearing my Hokas.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Its time to get serious and go see a PT and get this figured out. (if you did this already, I apologize.)
Weeks off shouldn't cause that kind of pain. You need something more than what we can provide. If I were you, I'd spend the next few months getting it better so once we are through winter, you can head back out and run without pain.
El Floppo
Footballguy
yeah, I saw an ortho a couple weeks back who told me to shut it all down (and said it could be a while). and also to see a PT. haven't had or made time to do that. dumb. crap... he also prescribed an anti-inflammatory that i haven't gotten filled yet- will do that today.
I've really missed running too. but know that you're right- I have to get this right or it will just get worse.
gruecd
Footballguy
For what it's worth, I've had a lot of people (mostly non-runners) tell me to "shut it all down," and in literally every case I've managed to get better without any prolonged break from running. Just my two cents.
El Floppo
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Just curious, what's the diagnosis he gave you? Also, go fill the anti-inflammatory. Did he prescribe indomethacin? Good luck getting better.
bushdocda
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El Floppo
Footballguy
said my Achilles were ####ed. stop running. nothing structural, just badly enflamed.
I mentioned before that he told me he was just coming off the same achilles problem following doing marathons up until last year. he ended up shut down for 7 months.
and again...I've seen your mom and pop type docs who will always say shut it down. and I've seen ultra endurance athlete docs who have asked what I have coming up before saying to shut down so I can train towards them. with nothing on my horizon, this guy (again- he treats professional NHL athletes and does marathons himself) made no bones about it.
El Floppo
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
My post wasn't questioning his advice at all even though it seems that's how you took it. I was wondering what the specific diagnosis was that he gave you. I'm pretty sure "Achilles is ####ed" isn't it as most coders won't allow that and compensate for it.
I'm guessing he's calling it "Achilles tendonitis" or "tendinopathy" but I'm curious for future reference.
I was also asking if indomethacin was the anti-inflammatory he prescribed. Again, for learning purposes.
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El Floppo
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I'm sorry, gian... it did come across that way and I guess I must've been feeling defensive- didn't want/mean to react that way.
tendinopathy sounds right.
gianmarco
Footballguy
This is where the eccentric heel drops can really help.
I had the same thing. Luckily I was able to get it better in just a few weeks. First of all, I'm pretty sure I partially tore my Achilles back when I was in college. I never saw a doctor because I was an idiot back then but I had a hard time walking for like 2-3 months after hurting it playing some pickup basketball. I now have a couple "knots" on my Achilles tendon that I'm sure are scar tissue areas where it healed. Those have been tender to touch ever since (two decades now). They are actually better now than they've ever been thanks to stretching and running, believe it or not.
Anyway, when I was seeing an ortho a few years ago during my ACL treatment, I asked him about it and he confirmed that's probably what it was. This was before I was running. When it flared up after I started running, this is when I learned about those heel drops. It made a 100% HUGE difference and now they are better than they've ever been.
Long story long, take the anti-inflammatory medicine and do the heel drops religiously. And yes, rest. You've likely scarred them from your years of playing and other stuff so it's not going to fix quickly. Also, avoid any kind of hills when you get started.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Oh, and here's a little reading on Achilles tendinopathy (and how it's different than tendinitis)
Even longer and better reading on it
Even longer and better reading on it
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El Floppo
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I TOLD YOU ALREADY I SAW THE NEW YORK FREAKING RANGERS DOCTOR.
the heel drops did me right when the achilles flared up at the beginning of this particular running renaissance last winter/spring (2019/20). only a trained psychiatrist could say why I haven't been doing them again now. I'd like to blame my ever and quickly expanding waistline for it.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I'm sure what I've been battling is extremely minor compared to Flop, but those heel drops (and the foam roller) have been tremendous. They still bark from time to time (calves too), but ever since I've made those 2 things a habit anything unusual is no more sometime after I get moving around the next day - or sooner. I'm sure mostly avoiding hills for 2+ weeks after it first popped up helped too.
lumpy19
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
My head was spinning early this afternoon. After a 45 minute jog I felt like a new person. I'm sure I'll revert back to Farva at Dimpus Burger mode within the next hour or two though.
gruecd
Footballguy
Jealous of you guys that can do this. It’s just not time-efficient for me. It takes me a solid half-hour just to stop sweating afterwards so I can take a shower!
ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah no kidding.
This last 30 days have been a real #####. Kids are in full swing. One kid playing high school soccer. Two games a week means I don't get home til 7. Then there is dinner and getting chores done and go to bed.
One son is in cross country. So the other two days I have to pick him up from cross country practice at 5:45, which means I'm not home til 6 or so. Dinner before child #3 has to go to hockey practice.
So basically 4 evenings a week it's been a real challenge to get out and run. On top of that my yard just got reseeded and since I'm not a millionaire I'm watering the lawn until 10:00 at night so I don't kill my new grass.
So if I want to run it's at 5:00 in the morning (which I did on Monday and will probably do tomorrow). So far my saturday morning run still seems to be available. So if anyone was wondering why my running sucks balls right now, there you are.
I'm getting tired and cranky and just all around irritated by things. Which means I need to run.
My salvation is my oldest son turns 16 in two weeks so he will have an unrestricted drivers license so he can finally have his siblings in the car. Booyah.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I need to add my new Saucony Pro's which I'll give a spin on tomorrow's tempo. If all goes well, then I wear them at London. If not, then I panic and find a plan B.
Thanks for the Strava tip!
gianmarco
Footballguy
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
My schedule actually fit the lunch run today, and I felt like I sweated off a whole person. Mid 80's and huuumid. Fortunately your weather is on its way.
My head was spinning early this afternoon. After a 45 minute jog I felt like a new person. I'm sure I'll revert back to Farva at Dimpus Burger mode within the next hour or two though.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I shower post run, but I'm still sweating for sometime after. Like Chef the evenings last too late to run in the morning, so lunch is my window. If others schedule afternoon meetings with me then that's their own damn fault. :X
