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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (4 Viewers)

During my last mile this morning, I found a lost child. Probably a three-year old.

He was at the corner of a somewhat busy intersection by the high school. He was dressed but in bare feet and tugging a small plastic wagon. No parent anywhere to be seen. He wouldn’t talk to be. A woman stopped who had seen him cross the street by himself moments earlier. He wouldn’t talk to her either. We called 911 and waited for the police to show up.

Very odd.
Heartbreaking. Literally brings me to the verge of tears thinking about our little one being out and lost like that. Poor little dude must've been so scared. :frown:

I don't suppose you have an update?

No update. He didn’t seem afraid or unhappy. Something was off. Maybe autism? I don’t know.

There are houses across the street. I assume he lives nearby and wandered out and is back with his family by now.
Gosh, I hope so. It's amazing how having your own kid changes your perspective on these kinds of things...
 
During my last mile this morning, I found a lost child. Probably a three-year old.

He was at the corner of a somewhat busy intersection by the high school. He was dressed but in bare feet and tugging a small plastic wagon. No parent anywhere to be seen. He wouldn’t talk to be. A woman stopped who had seen him cross the street by himself moments earlier. He wouldn’t talk to her either. We called 911 and waited for the police to show up.

Very odd.
Good of you to stop.

This has happened to me a couple times. One time this kid about the same age was in his front yard knocking on his garage door. I went up and asked if it was his house and he nodded yes.

Took him to the front door and rang the doorbell. Parents came to the door and had no idea he was outside. He must have gone out the back door and out of the side gate.
This happened to us with our youngest early in covid. He was aged 3 and decided he wanted to go run with dad. He 'took a short cut' to try to catch me through the back yard but by the time he got to the main road I was gone. So he decided to take a break at the bus stop. 🤦‍♂️
 
Can’t complain about the August weather. Only a few mornings in the 70s, a few in the high 50s, and a 10-day forecast with lows almost entirely in the low 60s. Highs are only in the high 70s/low 80s. Don’t even need to turn on the air conditioning.
We had a muggy stretch last week, but our patience through it has been rewarded this week. Dew points have been in the 50's since Tuesday and long range indicates that should hold for at least another week. We've had some good summers lately, but this has been the best one yet - except for last week haven't had any hot/humid stretches that last more than 36 hours or so. I've said for years the southern great lakes was going to be vacation destination in my lifetime and now I'm thinking it'll be by the end of the decade. We're considering scrapping our planned Carolina vacation next year and doing a couple 4-5 day trips instead - one in New York and another probably near Tri-man's summer stomping grounds.
Yeah, the Grand Rapids area (and SW Michigan in general) has quite a bit to offer. Plenty of lakes to enjoy. Meijer Gardens just NE of Grand Rapids is like a botanical garden, art museum, and concert venue all combined. Grand Rapids has a lot of breweries and has some good restaurants downtown. We're a few miles from Rockford, which is a neat little town ...a mix of shops, and they have a summer Tuesday night concert series that's OK. You could also get north to the enjoyable area around Petoskey/Traverse City within a couple of hours. Come in July and we can catch a run!
 
Can’t complain about the August weather. Only a few mornings in the 70s, a few in the high 50s, and a 10-day forecast with lows almost entirely in the low 60s. Highs are only in the high 70s/low 80s. Don’t even need to turn on the air conditioning.
We had a muggy stretch last week, but our patience through it has been rewarded this week. Dew points have been in the 50's since Tuesday and long range indicates that should hold for at least another week. We've had some good summers lately, but this has been the best one yet - except for last week haven't had any hot/humid stretches that last more than 36 hours or so. I've said for years the southern great lakes was going to be vacation destination in my lifetime and now I'm thinking it'll be by the end of the decade. We're considering scrapping our planned Carolina vacation next year and doing a couple 4-5 day trips instead - one in New York and another probably near Tri-man's summer stomping grounds.
Yeah, the Grand Rapids area (and SW Michigan in general) has quite a bit to offer. Plenty of lakes to enjoy. Meijer Gardens just NE of Grand Rapids is like a botanical garden, art museum, and concert venue all combined. Grand Rapids has a lot of breweries and has some good restaurants downtown. We're a few miles from Rockford, which is a neat little town ...a mix of shops, and they have a summer Tuesday night concert series that's OK. You could also get north to the enjoyable area around Petoskey/Traverse City within a couple of hours. Come in July and we can catch a run!
I'm very familiar with the east shore of Lake Michigan. Just hadn't been there since kids before this June. That long weekend near Indiana Dunes is what sparked this topic. Will definitely let you know if it's in July. I suspect we'll be near one of the Haven's.
 
Back in the saddle for the first time in 71 days. But who’s counting? New ride (used, 2016 from FB marketplace) is decent, cost exactly the same as getting the old bike fixed would have cost.
I put the old frame up on the garage wall, Same corner as I keep my race bibs, medals, shot glass collection from college, old license plates and my totem from Indian guides 40 years ago. I don’t have a real man cave but that part of the garage is close.

I don’t love the hand positioning on the tri aerobars - wrist bent slightly down, while my old bars bent up. I presumably I’ll get used to it but during the hour ride I started to get tingling in the fingers which isn’t ideal. she felt fairly fast, should be fun once I get things tuned in right.
 
Can’t complain about the August weather. Only a few mornings in the 70s, a few in the high 50s, and a 10-day forecast with lows almost entirely in the low 60s. Highs are only in the high 70s/low 80s. Don’t even need to turn on the air conditioning.
We had a muggy stretch last week, but our patience through it has been rewarded this week. Dew points have been in the 50's since Tuesday and long range indicates that should hold for at least another week. We've had some good summers lately, but this has been the best one yet - except for last week haven't had any hot/humid stretches that last more than 36 hours or so. I've said for years the southern great lakes was going to be vacation destination in my lifetime and now I'm thinking it'll be by the end of the decade. We're considering scrapping our planned Carolina vacation next year and doing a couple 4-5 day trips instead - one in New York and another probably near Tri-man's summer stomping grounds.
Yeah, the Grand Rapids area (and SW Michigan in general) has quite a bit to offer. Plenty of lakes to enjoy. Meijer Gardens just NE of Grand Rapids is like a botanical garden, art museum, and concert venue all combined. Grand Rapids has a lot of breweries and has some good restaurants downtown. We're a few miles from Rockford, which is a neat little town ...a mix of shops, and they have a summer Tuesday night concert series that's OK. You could also get north to the enjoyable area around Petoskey/Traverse City within a couple of hours. Come in July and we can catch a run!
SW and northern Michigan is beautiful. I’d love to get a cabin up there for the summers. We’ll stay away from the SE Michigan unless we’re just visiting friends. For those who don’t know I grew up north of Detroit, went to EMU, i dislike that area.
 
Can’t complain about the August weather. Only a few mornings in the 70s, a few in the high 50s, and a 10-day forecast with lows almost entirely in the low 60s. Highs are only in the high 70s/low 80s. Don’t even need to turn on the air conditioning.
We had a muggy stretch last week, but our patience through it has been rewarded this week. Dew points have been in the 50's since Tuesday and long range indicates that should hold for at least another week. We've had some good summers lately, but this has been the best one yet - except for last week haven't had any hot/humid stretches that last more than 36 hours or so. I've said for years the southern great lakes was going to be vacation destination in my lifetime and now I'm thinking it'll be by the end of the decade. We're considering scrapping our planned Carolina vacation next year and doing a couple 4-5 day trips instead - one in New York and another probably near Tri-man's summer stomping grounds.
Yeah, the Grand Rapids area (and SW Michigan in general) has quite a bit to offer. Plenty of lakes to enjoy. Meijer Gardens just NE of Grand Rapids is like a botanical garden, art museum, and concert venue all combined. Grand Rapids has a lot of breweries and has some good restaurants downtown. We're a few miles from Rockford, which is a neat little town ...a mix of shops, and they have a summer Tuesday night concert series that's OK. You could also get north to the enjoyable area around Petoskey/Traverse City within a couple of hours. Come in July and we can catch a run!
SW and northern Michigan is beautiful. I’d love to get a cabin up there for the summers. We’ll stay away from the SE Michigan unless we’re just visiting friends. For those who don’t know I grew up north of Detroit, went to EMU, i dislike that area.
Grew up in NW Ohio about 20 miles from the border. Obviously been there a lot with the kids. They keep asking why I always talk about Michigan, but never take them when it is 'right there.'

'That isn't Michigan, kids.'
 
2 straight weeks with 6 hours of exercise and (almost) 30 miles, my resting HR is now consistently under or near 50, and aHR of 144 on a one hour run near 7:30 pace Sunday in relatively comfortable conditions. On track to get my fitness back, so unlike January and March time to see over the next 4-6 weeks if my body can maintain 3_ mpw.
 
Let’s get some updates on fall training and what’s in season at the local farmers market. :hifive:

I am doing an ok job taking it day to day with about 5.5 weeks to go. Confidence is coming along slowly and next 3 weeks are going to really show me where I am.

Most our travel plans are set to train hop around Germany for the week after so that frees me up to obsess on historical late September weather and the mens world record course layout.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_world_record_progression

Last 7 men’s records come from the Berlin course and in 2018 Kipchoge blew away the 3 pacers in 1:01:06 / 1:00:33 on a sunny day that started at 57*F and rose to 64*F.
 
I’ve pretty much decided that a Turkey Trot 5K will be my A race this year.

I think it will be an interesting challenge. I set my official 5K PR In 2018. However, during training runs last year, I beat that a handful of times. If I had raced one, I think I could have shaved at least 30 seconds off my PR. I don’t know if I can get back to that by late November but I think I could at least set an official PR.

No training plan. I’ll just go with the rhythms I’ve developed over the last few years. No crazy mileage but I’ll keep the pace up a bit with a lot of progressions. I’ll run some tempos and track intervals eventually. I have a lot of base work to do for now.
 
Can’t complain about training, it is going well with the exception of getting stung by a bee this morning in the right hamstring during my run. It is an unsettling place to feel pain when running. I’m in week 6 of my 18 week plan and per the plan it is supposed to be a recovery week. I have a 5k scheduled for this weekend and I am itching to race, as it has been a while since I have raced and I missed my normal summer race where I usually win a pie because it was held while I was on vacation. I’m fairly certain I can run sub 18 and maybe even PR in a 5K.

The thing is I signed my son up for this race as well. He’s 11 and isn’t currently signed up for a fall sport, and I would like him to try cross country. I don’t want him to have a miserable experience out there, a 5k is a long distance for an 11 year old and while the weather should be okay it will be less than ideal racing conditions. I decided that I going to run with him and I’m excited to see how he performs.

I’ve run with him twice recently, once at night on vacation when he had a belly full of ice cream and it was 79 degrees he ran a mile in 11:00. On Sunday I made him run a mile with me and he was disinterested in doing it, he looked miserable but was holding 10:00/mile pace for the first ½ of mile which was mostly uphill. With about ¼ a mile left I told him to show me what he has left, and he complained “what do I have to do”, I told him to just run as fast as you can to the driveway and then you’re done. He surprised me in that he really opened up his stride and started moving holding 7:30 at the end of the run.

We ran a virtual 5K 2 years ago in 40:46, this is his first real race and he should smash that time.
 
I've been doing pretty good on my 3 mile a week plan. :blush:

Hoping to ramp that up as the weather cools down. Going to try and up that to at least 9 this week.

As for the Farmers Market, it's peak season. Everything is in so it's been a plethora of bounty - veggies and fruits and all sorts of things. Still going every Saturday at 7:15am. I'll try and do a regular report but I don't feel right posting those unless I've started it out with a good run beforehand.

My 14 year old son (the one who ran cross country last year) decided on soccer instead in high school. He's a freshman so he's been lifting and running all summer as preparations. Tryouts are this week. He hasn't played soccer in about 4 years since he started playing hockey, so soccer is really just to get in shape for hockey.

He crushed the running tests yesterday: ran a 4.80 40 yard dash, which was the fastest on the freshman and sophomores. Juniors and seniors did their test later. Crushed the mile in about 6:25, so he's definitely fit. We'll see where he ends up - the school has varsity, JV, and C team, which is mainly freshman. He will probably be on that team, since they have about 70 kids trying out.

16 year old is also trying out for soccer again - he's a junior and played the last 2 years. He just caught covid last week so he's had to miss tryouts this week. So there is a chance he doesn't make a team this year. He can only play varsity and JV, and he's not good enough for varsity. He may not be good enough for JV either, but his body of work for two years may get him there. He's just not a great athlete, but he's big (6'2" - thanks @gruecd :<_<:) and works hard and he was there all summer for workouts also.

The good news is he's also trying out to be the kicker for the football team. He's been working with the specials teams coach all summer, so there is a really good chance he's the guy for the varsity team (nobody else has come out yet). So that will be exciting and nerve racking all at once if this works out.

As for me, I'm still hurting. Will start the doctor dance now that AC season is winding down. But otherwise things are good. Been down a little bit mentally - probably a lot of burn-out from the last two years and just thinking too much about the world we live in.

Need to run more just to add some extra positivity back in my life. It's coming.
 
I've got a HM on Sept 10 (the Naperville Trail HM that @Juxtatarot won last year). I haven't had the time to train properly, so it won't be an impressive time. We close on our new house on the 7th, and that's just a mile up the road. But our current house will just be hitting the market in a few days ...unsure (but hopeful) about selling quickly and proceeding with the move. I've spent the last two days working on overdue home repairs, painting, and clean-up/decluttering. Next two-three days will be more of the same.

After the move, I'll be able to find new routes and hopefully settle into some good fall routines. I'll wait on determining fall race plans until after we move and settle down.
 
Week 7 of 12 of my Berlin training. I'm loosely following a Hanson's plan while adding miles when I can.

Felt good in a 14 mile long run at 7:14 pace while on vacation. Then did a 15 mile run with 2 sets of 5 mile sub 7:00 miles in the mix. It was definitely tough.

This weekend starts official pacing season. I'm pacing the NYRR official NYC Marathon 12 mile training run. I've never done this but they have about 25-30 pacers assigned, so I'm guessing a couple thousand runners? The run is essentially 2 loops of Central Park. If you haven't run CP, it can be hilly and I'm assigned a quick pace (7:26/mile). Admittedly, I'm a bit nervous about it as when I'm pacing, I don't want to be working too hard. This, for me, feels like it could be a real challenge. I think I'll get it done, I just don't want to be huffing and puffing like an asthmatic smoker with COVID.

Saturday is supposed to be a 20 mile long run but that likely will not happen as I have other commitments that day so it may just have to be my 12 mile run (of which, I'll definitely do a warm up and possibly a cool down).

I'm getting excited for Berlin. It will be great to hang with @bushdocda_ (or is it @bushdocda) and Mrs. @bushdocda_ .
 
I’ve pretty much decided that a Turkey Trot 5K will be my A race this year.

I think it will be an interesting challenge. I set my official 5K PR In 2018. However, during training runs last year, I beat that a handful of times. If I had raced one, I think I could have shaved at least 30 seconds off my PR. I don’t know if I can get back to that by late November but I think I could at least set an official PR.

No training plan. I’ll just go with the rhythms I’ve developed over the last few years. No crazy mileage but I’ll keep the pace up a bit with a lot of progressions. I’ll run some tempos and track intervals eventually. I have a lot of base work to do for now.
Look at me, I can easily beat my PR by 30 seconds in a 5K. 😂
 
Let’s get some updates on fall training and what’s in season at the local farmers market. :hifive:

I am doing an ok job taking it day to day with about 5.5 weeks to go. Confidence is coming along slowly and next 3 weeks are going to really show me where I am.

Most our travel plans are set to train hop around Germany for the week after so that frees me up to obsess on historical late September weather and the mens world record course layout.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_world_record_progression

Last 7 men’s records come from the Berlin course and in 2018 Kipchoge blew away the 3 pacers in 1:01:06 / 1:00:33 on a sunny day that started at 57*F and rose to 64*F.
Farewell lovely ‘deleted member’ but we back.
 
Good Saturday morning. Started off with a 6.24 mile run and man that felt good. After:

1. Farmers Market. It's the time where everything is in. Loaded up on tomato, potato, onion, green pepper, zucchini and squash, cucumber, watermelon, apples, peaches, lettuce, cilantro, sliced sourdough bread, fresh home-made donuts, corn, kombucha tea. That's about it.

2. Ace Hardware for some suet. And while there grabbed some grass seed, more bird food, and a bone for the dog. Had a $20 off coupon if I spend $100, so I bought $100 worth of stuff and got $20 off. Considering my original needs for grass seed and such was about $80, got $20 in free stuff as an Ace Rewards member. BOOOOOOOOYAHHHHHH!!!

2. Convenience store for a big phat coke

3. Store for some seafood for the grill tonight

4. Wiener Kitchen for a breakfast of scrambled eggs, couple of home-made sausage links, whole wheat toast on a bed of greens with some bacon jam.

Chiefs and Royals play at 3:00, so some double TV action in the garage on a beautiful 82 degree day here. Grilled fish dinner with a bunch of mixed veg and potato for dinner. Cold beers of course.

Have a great day folks! :banned:
 
Good Saturday morning. Started off with a 6.24 mile run and man that felt good. After:

1. Farmers Market. It's the time where everything is in. Loaded up on tomato, potato, onion, green pepper, zucchini and squash, cucumber, watermelon, apples, peaches, lettuce, cilantro, sliced sourdough bread, fresh home-made donuts, corn, kombucha tea. That's about it.

2. Ace Hardware for some suet. And while there grabbed some grass seed, more bird food, and a bone for the dog. Had a $20 off coupon if I spend $100, so I bought $100 worth of stuff and got $20 off. Considering my original needs for grass seed and such was about $80, got $20 in free stuff as an Ace Rewards member. BOOOOOOOOYAHHHHHH!!!

2. Convenience store for a big phat coke

3. Store for some seafood for the grill tonight

4. Wiener Kitchen for a breakfast of scrambled eggs, couple of home-made sausage links, whole wheat toast on a bed of greens with some bacon jam.

Chiefs and Royals play at 3:00, so some double TV action in the garage on a beautiful 82 degree day here. Grilled fish dinner with a bunch of mixed veg and potato for dinner. Cold beers of course.

Have a great day folks! :banned:
I oddly miss these updates! Thanks for bringing it back!
 
Week 7 of 12 of my Berlin training. I'm loosely following a Hanson's plan while adding miles when I can.

Felt good in a 14 mile long run at 7:14 pace while on vacation. Then did a 15 mile run with 2 sets of 5 mile sub 7:00 miles in the mix. It was definitely tough.

This weekend starts official pacing season. I'm pacing the NYRR official NYC Marathon 12 mile training run. I've never done this but they have about 25-30 pacers assigned, so I'm guessing a couple thousand runners? The run is essentially 2 loops of Central Park. If you haven't run CP, it can be hilly and I'm assigned a quick pace (7:26/mile). Admittedly, I'm a bit nervous about it as when I'm pacing, I don't want to be working too hard. This, for me, feels like it could be a real challenge. I think I'll get it done, I just don't want to be huffing and puffing like an asthmatic smoker with COVID.

Saturday is supposed to be a 20 mile long run but that likely will not happen as I have other commitments that day so it may just have to be my 12 mile run (of which, I'll definitely do a warm up and possibly a cool down).

I'm getting excited for Berlin. It will be great to hang with @bushdocda_ (or is it @bushdocda) and Mrs. @bushdocda_ .
Goal was to finish at 1:29:00. I finished at 1:28:58.

Super muggy day and it was a grind. I have no business pacing anything faster than this….and I probably shouldn’t do this pace on a muggy day with a hilly course.

But it’s done and another 70 mile week is in the books after this mornings easy recovery run.
 
Week 7 of 12 of my Berlin training. I'm loosely following a Hanson's plan while adding miles when I can.

Felt good in a 14 mile long run at 7:14 pace while on vacation. Then did a 15 mile run with 2 sets of 5 mile sub 7:00 miles in the mix. It was definitely tough.

This weekend starts official pacing season. I'm pacing the NYRR official NYC Marathon 12 mile training run. I've never done this but they have about 25-30 pacers assigned, so I'm guessing a couple thousand runners? The run is essentially 2 loops of Central Park. If you haven't run CP, it can be hilly and I'm assigned a quick pace (7:26/mile). Admittedly, I'm a bit nervous about it as when I'm pacing, I don't want to be working too hard. This, for me, feels like it could be a real challenge. I think I'll get it done, I just don't want to be huffing and puffing like an asthmatic smoker with COVID.

Saturday is supposed to be a 20 mile long run but that likely will not happen as I have other commitments that day so it may just have to be my 12 mile run (of which, I'll definitely do a warm up and possibly a cool down).

I'm getting excited for Berlin. It will be great to hang with @bushdocda_ (or is it @bushdocda) and Mrs. @bushdocda_ .
Goal was to finish at 1:29:00. I finished at 1:28:58.

Super muggy day and it was a grind. I have no business pacing anything faster than this….and I probably shouldn’t do this pace on a muggy day with a hilly course.

But it’s done and another 70 mile week is in the books after this mornings easy recovery run.

Such a machine. No matter how many times I see you knock out the precision on these paces, it is always truly awesome!
 
Quick update on my end. Just got back from a family trip out west. Busy schedule (1200+ miles of driving in 7 days) and didn't really get to run (other than a short jaunt across sand dunes at elevation, which is as difficult as one would expect). Did get a lot of hiking in, though, and got to do the Manitou Incline with kid 1 and kid 2, which was a lot of fun. Part of me wanted to try to #beatgrue, but I did it together with the kids and helped coax my daughter to the top (she was struggling from step ~1800 or so on), plus it was it the heat of the day and the iceman is in better shape than me anyway.

Glad to see you fall racing people killing it on Strava, and was also pleased to read the Saturday shovel report. I expect I'll start getting back to a more reasonable mileage in a few weeks, but before then I have to move my daughter back into college and a short business trip.
 
I saw the Neurosurgeon this morning, growth in my back is not cause of pain, his official diagnosis is SI inflammation and/or sports hernia. Sending me to an orthapedic for a 2nd opinion. Good news is he said exercise is fine as long as it doesn't cause pain so while running is out I'm getting back on that bike and going to push to do more yoga and get my body stretched out.
 
Moose Mountain Trail Races 29K Race Report

TL;DR


During most of the race, I thought I was running slower than last year, but after saw that I wasn't. Ran smarter, and PR'd by about 16 minutes. Enjoyed a beer at home after.

Prologue

This is my "every year" trail race. It's the first trail race I ever registered for, and the race I have run the most. First year was a reroute due to (re)construction of the fire watch at the top of the mountain, thus the times for that race couldn't be compared to the next three. The second year the race went virtual for COVID, but my friend and I ran the course anyway (which we know well, it's our home trails). The third year (last year) I was just coming off injury, but put in a time faster than I expected (3:27).

This year, I'm probably in the best running shape I've ever been generally, but with more weekends in DFW than I would choose, my mountain legs aren't as strong as I would like.

My only goal was to run faster than last year (3:27). To do that, I knew I had to run the last 6km better than each of the last three years. No/little walking!

Due to flight delays the night before the race, I only got about 3 hours of sleep before heading out to the race. I was racing with the same friend I usually run with, but we had already agreed that we would "run our own race" and not worry about sticking together. He's injured and not as trained as he would like, and also our styles are different. I'm faster on the uphills, and he's faster on the downhills, so if we went lowest-common-denominator by sticking together, it would be a slow time for us both.

Race prep was uneventful. Weather forecast was all over the map. Maybe rain, maybe cloudy, maybe hot by the end of the race. Got my vest on, two flasks of caffeinated Tailwind (Berry) and headed for the start line. Three race distances all starting simultaneously. 29K/42K/50K. The 29K is the "OG" for the 30 years of the race, with the 42K and 50K distances added more recently. I like the 29K distance because it's basically up the mountain, and down. That simple. The other distances reroute you to other trails.

0830 (such a late start!) rolls around, and we're off.

0-6km (0-3.7mi), 210m/689ft of gain

This is an easy, but constant, uphill. Most of the distance is runnable, and very quickly my friend and I are separated as I move up through the pack. My running pace on this grade is faster than many of the runners. Things feel "normal". I know I'm trained better this year than last, but I don't think I'm running any faster than last year. After I clear through the pack, I'm generally passing more runners than are passing me.

6km - 8.5km (3.7mi - 5.3mi), 270m/886ft of gain

We turn off the fire road and into the trees. This grade is mostly a hiking grade, with some short runnable sections. I keep a decent hiking pace, but don't feel any faster than last year. I start to wonder if I'm going to be competitive with last year. My overall fitness is better, but it doesn't feel like I'm making up any time. I occasionally pass people, and occasionally get passed. Often by the same people. Net kills were probably +2 or +3, but I wasn't really counting.

8.5km - 11.7km (5.3mi - 7.3mi), 106m/348ft of gain

Another runnable grade (mostly). Pass 3-4 people, get passed once. Still feeling like I'm running the same pace I ran last year. Excuse-formulation starts to creep-in. "I don't have my mountain legs", "I didn't get enough sleep last night", "It's smoky" (it was a little), "I'm running too many junk miles", and then the go-to one, "I just suck".

11.7km to 14.4km (7.3mi - 9mi), 300m/990ft of gain (the turnaround point)

This is the most serious part of the Moose Mountain climb. I imagine the pros can run some/all of this, but most everyone is hiking. Some of the leaders are already on their way down the mountain, and blow by me as I'm grinding my way up. The race has really thinned-out at this point, so I'm not really passing anyone or getting passed.

The weather for the day turned-out cloudy, and a bit cool/windy on the mountain. My Garmin Tempe logged temps of about 16C/61F, but with the wind, it felt uncomfortably cool up there. Burned off most of my sweat at that point, and I was eager to get to the turnaround so that I could get back below the treeline.

Got to the turnaround point, got my bib punched, and start the return home.

14.4km to 22.8km (9mi - 14.2mi), almost all downhill

I'm grouping the return/descent into two sections. Just the primary descent, and then the last 6km. The primary went well. I was running paces that, again, felt the same as last year. I passed my friend, who was still on his climb, and he tells me that he counts 34 runners in front of me (for all distances). That feels like a lot. I pass him at about the same point I passed him last year, so again I feel like I'm no faster this year. I check my watch, though, and see that I'm under two hours into the race, and already well on my way down. So I must be running faster than last year, because I wasn't going to eat up 90 minutes of time on the return. That gave me some confidence.

Through the race, I hadn't been pushing myself has hard as I had in prior years. While my only goal was to beat my time from last year, I wanted to have enough left in the tank for a strong 6km on the fire road. In each of the prior three years, despite being a downhill, I broke down and had to walk the (few) slight uphills, including a tiny one right before the finish. I wanted to run that strong this year. So I was saving some gas for that.

22.8km - 29km (14.2mi - 18mi), almost all downhill

There's a meaningful uphill at the beginning of this last section. So I hiked that (running it would have burned me up at that point). I was pretty much alone for 2/3 of this section, but as I got closer and closer to the finish, I checked my watch and a PR was basically locked. That gave me some confidence. I also felt like I was running faster than in prior years at this point (finally!). And then I saw some runners on the road in front of me. With about 2km left, I told myself I was going to pass them. And I did. The first guy I passed increased his pace as I was passing him, in an effort to keep up. But I increased mine in response, and he quickly relented. /flex. Then there was a girl a little further up. I was gaining ground, but then she chose to walk a slight uphill. Which, in prior years, I had walked as well. Not this year. Kept running that uphill and passed her.

Finally I get near the finish, and there is a slight uphill to deal with. You can't see the finish line at this point, so in prior years, I didn't know that the finish was just ~150m away from the crest of that short hill. So, in all three prior years, I walked that hill. This year I remembered the finish line was close, so I told myself "DBAP" and ran up that hill (ala Kate Bush) and quickly got my reward -- a view of the finish line and a strong pace for the last little distance to cover.

I ran the last 2.5km at a sub-5:00/km (8:00/mi) pace, a real win for me. Thanks to the runners I wanted to pass, thanks to my fitness, and thanks to me running a smarter race.

Looked at the clock as I crossed the finish line, and saw 3:11, a 16-minute PR from last year. Grabbed a finisher cupcake, wolfed it down (wrong move), and waited for my friend to finish (who did really well given his injury/fitness).

The numbers:

Strava distance: 28.8km/17.9mi
Elevation gain: 1,002m (3,287ft)
Official time: 3:11:03 (PR!)
Overall rank: 19/75
Male rank: 15/36
AG rank: 3/9

My first race AG podium! Sure, it's a small race, and sure, I got lucky with the field being strong in AGs outside my own, but I'll take it! My time from this year would have placed me 13th overall last year, but the field was stronger this year.

I was happy with my time, but already wondering "how the hell do I beat that time next year???".

I drove home, showered, plopped my butt on the couch, cracked the Moose Mountain Trail Races lager, and opened Strava. It was clear that I destroyed "2021 me" on that last 6km, so that was no surprise. But what was a surprise, is that for almost the entirety of the race before that, I was gaining time on "2021 me". Probably 99%. So I was running/hiking faster than prior years, it just didn't feel like I was. That was great to see as well.

So, another year in the books.

R2R2R now just ~six weeks away!
 
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My new watch (Epix Gen 2) calculates VO2Max on trail runs (my old watch - Fenix 5+ - didn't). But every time I come north to run, my VO2Max plummets. Just this weekend down from 58 to 52. And, from prior experience, a few runs in DFW will raise it to 58 again.

:shrug:
 
Congrats on the PR @Zasada , it's good to see the consistency and hard work payoff in a race. A 16 minute PR in a race of that time is huge, close to an 8% improvement in time. Hanson’s improvement calculator has a note saying “highly trained athletes should look for improvements in the 2-4% range, while newer runners can often expect slightly higher rates of initial improvements”.

Keep up the good work, you obviously found something that works for you. Who knows what your ceiling is as a runners, as you’re still improving at the rate of a newer runner.
 
Good Saturday morning. Started off with a 6.24 mile run and man that felt good. After:

1. Farmers Market. It's the time where everything is in. Loaded up on tomato, potato, onion, green pepper, zucchini and squash, cucumber, watermelon, apples, peaches, lettuce, cilantro, sliced sourdough bread, fresh home-made donuts, corn, kombucha tea. That's about it.

2. Ace Hardware for some suet. And while there grabbed some grass seed, more bird food, and a bone for the dog. Had a $20 off coupon if I spend $100, so I bought $100 worth of stuff and got $20 off. Considering my original needs for grass seed and such was about $80, got $20 in free stuff as an Ace Rewards member. BOOOOOOOOYAHHHHHH!!!

2. Convenience store for a big phat coke

3. Store for some seafood for the grill tonight

4. Wiener Kitchen for a breakfast of scrambled eggs, couple of home-made sausage links, whole wheat toast on a bed of greens with some bacon jam.

Chiefs and Royals play at 3:00, so some double TV action in the garage on a beautiful 82 degree day here. Grilled fish dinner with a bunch of mixed veg and potato for dinner. Cold beers of course.

Have a great day folks! :banned:
Can’t believe I missed this! Oh well, it made me smile on a Tuesday instead of a Saturday.
 
Even though I'm not running much lately, figured I'd still pop in, say hi, and say how awesome it is to see what some of you are doing with your training. Always makes me happy to see.

Also, figured I'd throw a little tip in that is semi-running related.

Me and my clothes used to smell horrifically after I'd run. Probably two years ago, I stopped using fabric softener that I thought would make them smell better. It turns out it was locking smells in and only got worse with time. Instead, we've switched to using plain white vinegar and putting it in the softener compartment.

Clothes have never smelled better. All of them. The Mrs even commented about it after runs that they don't smell before they are even washed.

So, if you use fabric softener, I'd strongly suggest to dump it and try using vinegar instead for a bit and see what you think.
 
Me and my clothes used to smell horrifically after I'd run. Probably two years ago, I stopped using fabric softener that I thought would make them smell better. It turns out it was locking smells in and only got worse with time. Instead, we've switched to using plain white vinegar and putting it in the softener compartment.

Clothes have never smelled better. All of them. The Mrs even commented about it after runs that they don't smell before they are even washed.

So, if you use fabric softener, I'd strongly suggest to dump it and try using vinegar instead for a bit and see what you think.
Thanks. Would have been nice to know when I was running a couple of years ago.
 
Me and my clothes used to smell horrifically after I'd run. Probably two years ago, I stopped using fabric softener that I thought would make them smell better. It turns out it was locking smells in and only got worse with time. Instead, we've switched to using plain white vinegar and putting it in the softener compartment.

Clothes have never smelled better. All of them. The Mrs even commented about it after runs that they don't smell before they are even washed.

So, if you use fabric softener, I'd strongly suggest to dump it and try using vinegar instead for a bit and see what you think.
Thanks. Would have been nice to know when I was running a couple of years ago.
I can't wait for his medical tips of things I should have been doing before I turned 50.
 
Me and my clothes used to smell horrifically after I'd run. Probably two years ago, I stopped using fabric softener that I thought would make them smell better. It turns out it was locking smells in and only got worse with time. Instead, we've switched to using plain white vinegar and putting it in the softener compartment.

Clothes have never smelled better. All of them. The Mrs even commented about it after runs that they don't smell before they are even washed.

So, if you use fabric softener, I'd strongly suggest to dump it and try using vinegar instead for a bit and see what you think.
Thanks. Would have been nice to know when I was running a couple of years ago.
I can't wait for his medical tips of things I should have been doing before I turned 50.
I suspect vinegar is a key part of that story as well.
 
Training? ❓🤨 what’s that?
I’m in a weird place right now where I’m just doing what I want and mostly enjoying all of it. Running, swimming, just a few rides, strength training… my only issue is time.
The rocket man tri is Sunday, I’ll do it but don’t really care that much about the results. I’ll help the team set up and tear down.
After that, the monumental half is in November. I might do the metric century in September but haven’t confirmed with the guy who said he wanted to do it if I’d join him (he was my cyclist for the sprint relay we won a couple weeks ago) and I’m definitely not trained for it.
I’ve been enjoying lifting, old man strength is a thing with my goals of 12x body weight on the bench and single arm pull downs of body weight are coming along. I’m as heavy as I’ve been in years but feeling good about it.
Life is good but I just don’t care about crushing PRs in races or following a training plan right now.
 
Hey people who have done the Monumental- what is the hotel that you stay at? If I remember there is one right by the start?
 
Hey people who have done the Monumental- what is the hotel that you stay at? If I remember there is one right by the start?
JW Marriott is the one we have historically stayed at. But if the cost is too high, there is a Westin and Marriott that are very close. Also, behind the JW is a Fairfield inn (or maybe Residence Inn.)
 
Hey people who have done the Monumental- what is the hotel that you stay at? If I remember there is one right by the start?
JW Marriott is the one we have historically stayed at. But if the cost is too high, there is a Westin and Marriott that are very close. Also, behind the JW is a Fairfield inn (or maybe Residence Inn.)
Just make sure there’s a good bar. Asking for a friend who will be staying with his sister.
 
Hey people who have done the Monumental- what is the hotel that you stay at? If I remember there is one right by the start?
JW Marriott is the one we have historically stayed at. But if the cost is too high, there is a Westin and Marriott that are very close. Also, behind the JW is a Fairfield inn (or maybe Residence Inn.)
Just make sure there’s a good bar. Asking for a friend who will be staying with his sister.

"Sister"

What happens in Indy, stays in Indy

(especially if you have the same intestinal issues as @pbm107 )
 
Training update - mood=tired.

I'm getting in my runs but the hard ones are hard. I know I'm conditioning myself to run on tired legs, but these kinda suck right now. I'm really looking forward to it being 15 degrees cooler to get the HR down.
 

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