Ran a 10k - Official Thread (23 Viewers)

[gianmarco]

I'm drinking at least a gallon of water every day for "75 Hard." I don't know how much more "loading" I can do.

Is there any worry that you are drinking "too much" water for training? I know that hyponatremia is a real thing.

I remember years ago when I started running and before I hit this thread a friend of mine who was a triathlete warned me about overhydrating due to the fact it can wash important nutrients out of your system.

I'm sure some of you smarter guys can clarify that but to me it's something to think about as you consume all that water.

In general, that's a bigger concern as a one time event, like a race, where you lose a lot of salt and replace the water too rapidly without replacing the sodium. Not over time because your body will let you know that you need salt and it'll adjust it in your urine over time.

Along those lines, the crazy thing for me is that I'm NOT a big salt waster. I never have any of those salt lines or residue on my face or clothes or anything. The sweat isn't salty, doesn't burn my eyes, none of the classic stuff of big salt wasting. Even still, I've been increasing my overall salt intake when I eat and I take salt tabs when I go out to run and I think I'm going to start bring some with me to take during runs as well. Plus, there's sodium in the GU.

If I were going to continue doing marathons (which I'm not), I would strongly consider doing a sweat analysis test at this point so I can figure this out. But, I'm just going to ride through this and try to not die in the next 2 months.

Have you noticed a difference in the amount of sweat with the increase of salt?

Just spitballing, but is it possible the extra salt is causing you to retain more fluids which then gets released on your runs. Essentially causing a vicious/moist cycle of excess stored fluids and excess sweating?

I know you've always been a high volume sweater, just not sure if the extra salt is helping or exacerbating the issue.

Nah. It's always like this. Actually, when it first starts getting hot, it's not as bad. But then it upregulates as I heat acclimate. I only recently started increasing it as I forgot about needing to. But I remember it being better in the past when I did so.

I may not lose as much salt as others, but I'm still definitely losing some and so the increased sodium intake is helpful.

Btw, I didn't even mention that instead of having that salty crust, I've actually had foamy sweat at end of longer/harder runs. I had it today at the end. Had it after my long run this weekend. Had it at the end of my 10 miles the week before. I tried searching about it but didn't find much about why. Considering it was there today but I felt great, I'm not worried about it, but basically it looks and feels like soap. It looked just like this.

 

[JShare87]

Same, but with the dew point.

Actually, that's not accurate. I just guess 70+every day and I just happen to right 90% of the time.

I know the entry said you cut it short, but I'm impressed you managed 13 over the weekend. Seems brutal in those conditions.

My 8 miles on Saturday actually felt non horrible for the first time in a few weeks. I'd like to think that heat acclimation is kicking in, but I think the SI was ~150 instead of the ~155-160 that the previous two weekends were, so it's hard to say for sure.

Thanks.

I've been trying to not complain (too much) about the weather (a few might disagree based on their texts, but still....). It just is what it is and I just get out there and do the best I can do. For the most part, I think I've been managing it fine.

We've gone through this before when I posted about this a good bit my last training cycle 2-3 years ago with the sweating and water intake struggles. I've been doing weight checks before and after runs and I'm consistently losing 1 pound every mile I run. Knowing this has helped over the last couple weeks, but I really didn't think long enough about getting it right for my planned 15 miler this past Sunday. I just figured I would keep hydrating and it would be ok.

For background, 2 months ago, I was at my heaviest I've been since I started running. I've gotten my weight back down and I'm currently ~206. That's about what I've raced both other marathons as well as the relay last year. I'm going to try and get under 200.

Anyway, the day before the long run, I ate a good brunch, was at Six Flags most of the day with one of my kids and hydrated really well and then had Chinese food in the early evening. Ate more than usual trying to load up on sodium and drinking. Went to bed at 211 (success), woke up and was 210 when I left for my run.

Went to the park and was doing 5 mile loops. Took a salt tab before I started. Carried an 11oz water bottle with. Drank that at 2 miles (3/4 lb). Got to the car and took a gu and drank a full liter (2.2 lbs of water). Carried another 11oz water bottle, drank at 7 miles. Back to the car at 10 miles and took another gu and drank another liter (2.2 lbs). Wasn't feeling well so did the shorter loop and decided it was smart to end the run at 13. Drank another liter when I was done, got home and drank another liter plus. All totaled, I drank over a gallon, probably 9lbs of water.

Hopped on the scale and I was 203.

At the end of that run, I had to have been down over 10 pounds before drinking those last 2 liters. Now I know why I felt awful. And, based on the calculations, I should have known that because even though I thought I was drinking enough, I wasn't even close. And that is my biggest struggle with this stupid heat/humidity. I honestly don't care how it otherwise feels as much as having to deal with the logistics of drinking so much for any kind of distance.

And, to confirm, yesterday morning I left in the AM for an easy 3 mile run. I ran in some decent shade, it was "only" 82/69 (it felt completely fine out there, seriously), and kept it slow with my AHR of 137. I was 204.7 pounds when I left for the run. I was 201.9 when I got back. And, my HR definitely started climbing that 3rd mile.

Anyway, this was my "venting" post. We are now officially less than 2 months away from race day so I'm just going to keep doing the best I can to keep getting miles in. At least it's a habit now and the weight loss has been good. Runs, even in these temps, are finally starting to feel easy. This week is going to be the worst one yet weather wise so I'm going to step it back a bit and just run slow stuff all week and try to get up over 30 again. Without a time goal, I just want to be sure I can cover the distance and I'm hoping I can get there in the next couple months.

I think you drank more water during that run than I do in a week

The silly thing is that I didn't even drink half of what I needed to during the run.

Per the math, I need to drink 1L every 2 miles I run. I needed 7L for that 13 mile run (almost 2 gallons).

That's why I laugh at everyone saying the drinking part of 75 Hard is difficult.

I think there’s something wrong with you. That’s a crazy amount of weight loss. I never drink anything down here in this sauna, no matter the distance. Not a chance I could lose ten pounds on a run.

Thanks!

It's also only during the summer and it's only when it's humid.

During the winter, I could go out and do 10 and not drink anything and be fine. Also, ran a couple weeks ago when the DP was only 60 and I didn't sweat much at all.

I'm just a performance machine that can overheat easily in the wrong conditions.

Sorry to interject in a doctoral discussion but heavy sweaters especially benefit from hydration and electrolyte loading sort of like raceday but ahead of long runs and workouts.
Still miserable out there sometimes but can be more resource sparing.

I'm drinking at least a gallon of water every day for "75 Hard." I don't know how much more "loading" I can do.

Sorry I mean more like this stuff added to water not more water.
Stay hard.

https://thefeed.com/products/skratch-labs-hyper-hydration[/URLI]

I just picked up some of these because I appear to be both a high-volume sweater and a salty sweater. I get the stinging eyes, salt lines, and my cats want to lick my legs after I come in from a run. The plan is to have a stick the day before a long/intense/hot run and put another in my water bottle to sip on during the workout as well.

Big fan of these

I was on those for a while but switched because of the high sugar content. I use LMNT now. The taste is really salty, but I kind of like that. No sugar and has magnesium and potassium. I also take an electrolyte tab, magnesium supplement, and potassium supplement too. These electrolyte tabs are super cheap and seem to pack a lot of punch.

Nutricost Electrolyte Complex (Advanced Hydration with Real Salt®) 120 Capsules - 8 Hydrating Electrolytes & Vitamins, Gluten Free, Non-GMO, Vegetarian https://a.co/d/ftDMfMg

 

[Juxtatarot]

Is there any worry that you are drinking "too much" water for training? I know that hyponatremia is a real thing.

I remember years ago when I started running and before I hit this thread a friend of mine who was a triathlete warned me about overhydrating due to the fact it can wash important nutrients out of your system.

I'm sure some of you smarter guys can clarify that but to me it's something to think about as you consume all that water.

In general, that's a bigger concern as a one time event, like a race, where you lose a lot of salt and replace the water too rapidly without replacing the sodium. Not over time because your body will let you know that you need salt and it'll adjust it in your urine over time.

Along those lines, the crazy thing for me is that I'm NOT a big salt waster. I never have any of those salt lines or residue on my face or clothes or anything. The sweat isn't salty, doesn't burn my eyes, none of the classic stuff of big salt wasting. Even still, I've been increasing my overall salt intake when I eat and I take salt tabs when I go out to run and I think I'm going to start bring some with me to take during runs as well. Plus, there's sodium in the GU.

If I were going to continue doing marathons (which I'm not), I would strongly consider doing a sweat analysis test at this point so I can figure this out. But, I'm just going to ride through this and try to not die in the next 2 months.

Have you noticed a difference in the amount of sweat with the increase of salt?

Just spitballing, but is it possible the extra salt is causing you to retain more fluids which then gets released on your runs. Essentially causing a vicious/moist cycle of excess stored fluids and excess sweating?

I know you've always been a high volume sweater, just not sure if the extra salt is helping or exacerbating the issue.

Nah. It's always like this. Actually, when it first starts getting hot, it's not as bad. But then it upregulates as I heat acclimate. I only recently started increasing it as I forgot about needing to. But I remember it being better in the past when I did so.

I may not lose as much salt as others, but I'm still definitely losing some and so the increased sodium intake is helpful.

Btw, I didn't even mention that instead of having that salty crust, I've actually had foamy sweat at end of longer/harder runs. I had it today at the end. Had it after my long run this weekend. Had it at the end of my 10 miles the week before. I tried searching about it but didn't find much about why. Considering it was there today but I felt great, I'm not worried about it, but basically it looks and feels like soap. It looked just like this.

I’m going to pretend that’s just laundry soap trapped by years of excessive fabric softening.

 

[BassNBrew]

Is there any worry that you are drinking "too much" water for training? I know that hyponatremia is a real thing.

I remember years ago when I started running and before I hit this thread a friend of mine who was a triathlete warned me about overhydrating due to the fact it can wash important nutrients out of your system.

I'm sure some of you smarter guys can clarify that but to me it's something to think about as you consume all that water.

In general, that's a bigger concern as a one time event, like a race, where you lose a lot of salt and replace the water too rapidly without replacing the sodium. Not over time because your body will let you know that you need salt and it'll adjust it in your urine over time.

Along those lines, the crazy thing for me is that I'm NOT a big salt waster. I never have any of those salt lines or residue on my face or clothes or anything. The sweat isn't salty, doesn't burn my eyes, none of the classic stuff of big salt wasting. Even still, I've been increasing my overall salt intake when I eat and I take salt tabs when I go out to run and I think I'm going to start bring some with me to take during runs as well. Plus, there's sodium in the GU.

If I were going to continue doing marathons (which I'm not), I would strongly consider doing a sweat analysis test at this point so I can figure this out. But, I'm just going to ride through this and try to not die in the next 2 months.

Have you noticed a difference in the amount of sweat with the increase of salt?

Just spitballing, but is it possible the extra salt is causing you to retain more fluids which then gets released on your runs. Essentially causing a vicious/moist cycle of excess stored fluids and excess sweating?

I know you've always been a high volume sweater, just not sure if the extra salt is helping or exacerbating the issue.

Nah. It's always like this. Actually, when it first starts getting hot, it's not as bad. But then it upregulates as I heat acclimate. I only recently started increasing it as I forgot about needing to. But I remember it being better in the past when I did so.

I may not lose as much salt as others, but I'm still definitely losing some and so the increased sodium intake is helpful.

Btw, I didn't even mention that instead of having that salty crust, I've actually had foamy sweat at end of longer/harder runs. I had it today at the end. Had it after my long run this weekend. Had it at the end of my 10 miles the week before. I tried searching about it but didn't find much about why. Considering it was there today but I felt great, I'm not worried about it, but basically it looks and feels like soap. It looked just like this.

I’m going to pretend that’s just laundry soap trapped by years of excessive fabric softening.

I thought he was spending too much time staring at this picture

 

[tri-man 47]

Same, but with the dew point.

Actually, that's not accurate. I just guess 70+every day and I just happen to right 90% of the time.

I know the entry said you cut it short, but I'm impressed you managed 13 over the weekend. Seems brutal in those conditions.

My 8 miles on Saturday actually felt non horrible for the first time in a few weeks. I'd like to think that heat acclimation is kicking in, but I think the SI was ~150 instead of the ~155-160 that the previous two weekends were, so it's hard to say for sure.

Thanks.

I've been trying to not complain (too much) about the weather (a few might disagree based on their texts, but still....). It just is what it is and I just get out there and do the best I can do. For the most part, I think I've been managing it fine.

We've gone through this before when I posted about this a good bit my last training cycle 2-3 years ago with the sweating and water intake struggles. I've been doing weight checks before and after runs and I'm consistently losing 1 pound every mile I run. Knowing this has helped over the last couple weeks, but I really didn't think long enough about getting it right for my planned 15 miler this past Sunday. I just figured I would keep hydrating and it would be ok.

For background, 2 months ago, I was at my heaviest I've been since I started running. I've gotten my weight back down and I'm currently ~206. That's about what I've raced both other marathons as well as the relay last year. I'm going to try and get under 200.

Anyway, the day before the long run, I ate a good brunch, was at Six Flags most of the day with one of my kids and hydrated really well and then had Chinese food in the early evening. Ate more than usual trying to load up on sodium and drinking. Went to bed at 211 (success), woke up and was 210 when I left for my run.

Went to the park and was doing 5 mile loops. Took a salt tab before I started. Carried an 11oz water bottle with. Drank that at 2 miles (3/4 lb). Got to the car and took a gu and drank a full liter (2.2 lbs of water). Carried another 11oz water bottle, drank at 7 miles. Back to the car at 10 miles and took another gu and drank another liter (2.2 lbs). Wasn't feeling well so did the shorter loop and decided it was smart to end the run at 13. Drank another liter when I was done, got home and drank another liter plus. All totaled, I drank over a gallon, probably 9lbs of water.

Hopped on the scale and I was 203.

At the end of that run, I had to have been down over 10 pounds before drinking those last 2 liters. Now I know why I felt awful. And, based on the calculations, I should have known that because even though I thought I was drinking enough, I wasn't even close. And that is my biggest struggle with this stupid heat/humidity. I honestly don't care how it otherwise feels as much as having to deal with the logistics of drinking so much for any kind of distance.

And, to confirm, yesterday morning I left in the AM for an easy 3 mile run. I ran in some decent shade, it was "only" 82/69 (it felt completely fine out there, seriously), and kept it slow with my AHR of 137. I was 204.7 pounds when I left for the run. I was 201.9 when I got back. And, my HR definitely started climbing that 3rd mile.

Anyway, this was my "venting" post. We are now officially less than 2 months away from race day so I'm just going to keep doing the best I can to keep getting miles in. At least it's a habit now and the weight loss has been good. Runs, even in these temps, are finally starting to feel easy. This week is going to be the worst one yet weather wise so I'm going to step it back a bit and just run slow stuff all week and try to get up over 30 again. Without a time goal, I just want to be sure I can cover the distance and I'm hoping I can get there in the next couple months.

I think you drank more water during that run than I do in a week

The silly thing is that I didn't even drink half of what I needed to during the run.

Per the math, I need to drink 1L every 2 miles I run. I needed 7L for that 13 mile run (almost 2 gallons).

That's why I laugh at everyone saying the drinking part of 75 Hard is difficult.

I think there’s something wrong with you. That’s a crazy amount of weight loss. I never drink anything down here in this sauna, no matter the distance. Not a chance I could lose ten pounds on a run.

Thanks!

It's also only during the summer and it's only when it's humid.

During the winter, I could go out and do 10 and not drink anything and be fine. Also, ran a couple weeks ago when the DP was only 60 and I didn't sweat much at all.

I'm just a performance machine that can overheat easily in the wrong conditions.

Sorry to interject in a doctoral discussion but heavy sweaters especially benefit from hydration and electrolyte loading sort of like raceday but ahead of long runs and workouts.
Still miserable out there sometimes but can be more resource sparing.

I'm drinking at least a gallon of water every day for "75 Hard." I don't know how much more "loading" I can do.

Sorry I mean more like this stuff added to water not more water.
Stay hard.

https://thefeed.com/products/skratch-labs-hyper-hydration[/URLI]

I just picked up some of these because I appear to be both a high-volume sweater and a salty sweater. I get the stinging eyes, salt lines, and my cats want to lick my legs after I come in from a run. The plan is to have a stick the day before a long/intense/hot run and put another in my water bottle to sip on during the workout as well.

Big fan of these

Me too!

 

[ChiefD]

So, today is my EMG test. Basically a nerve test on the muscles in surrounding areas around my neck. I believe they are checking on what damage I have on the nerves that come from the spinal compression I am feeling. Should be entertaining. The next step after this is a visit with the neurologist on August 9th to decipher what's going on and formulate a plan.

I suspect the plan will start with some kind of medication, stretching and PT. Though I can tell her now that none of that will work since I've already gone through those steps. But insurance dictates treatment as we all know at this point.

On the bright side I've ran 3 out of the last 6 days, including back to backs yesterday and Wednesday. Nothing to write home about but I'm moving at least. Lost two pounds this week. Still in pain all the time but at this point I'm trying the mind-over-matter trick.

It's worked this week anyway. Tomorrow's plan is my normal early run and Saturday errands, so at least having a good week so far.

Keep grinding gents - the payoff is coming.

 

[SayWhat?]

Been trying to run a nearby ~10K trail loop (almost 1,000 feet of gain) once a week to start acclimating my legs for R2R2R amidst my road marathon training. My PR is 50:13 back in 2020, and so far my three efforts this year have been 60:52, 59:36, and then 58:06 last night. Certainly trending in the right direction, but (a) it's hard to fathom running 50:13 again, and (b) it's really amazing how trail fitness is just entirely different than road fitness.

ETA: I just looked back, and it was 46° when I ran the course PR versus 80° yesterday.

Remind me again when you are planning R2R2R…November?

Been kicking that around in my head for 2024. Can’t wait to hear about your experience.

 

[BassNBrew]

So, today is my EMG test. Basically a nerve test on the muscles in surrounding areas around my neck. I believe they are checking on what damage I have on the nerves that come from the spinal compression I am feeling. Should be entertaining. The next step after this is a visit with the neurologist on August 9th to decipher what's going on and formulate a plan.

I suspect the plan will start with some kind of medication, stretching and PT. Though I can tell her now that none of that will work since I've already gone through those steps. But insurance dictates treatment as we all know at this point.

On the bright side I've ran 3 out of the last 6 days, including back to backs yesterday and Wednesday. Nothing to write home about but I'm moving at least. Lost two pounds this week. Still in pain all the time but at this point I'm trying the mind-over-matter trick.

It's worked this week anyway. Tomorrow's plan is my normal early run and Saturday errands, so at least having a good week so far.

Keep grinding gents - the payoff is coming.

Good luck Chef.

 

[BassNBrew]

Freaking knee injury.

Laying on the incline bench between sets with no weight on the left knee and all off a sudden a sharp needle like on the outside lower left knee. Couldn't walk for a few minutes. My best guess is ITBS but it seems a hair low. Started the stretching routine last night. If it's ITBS it will be gone in 2-3 days. Notice the left ITB was tender last night on the foam roller while the right wasn't. Stinks because I was starting to get into a groove.

Fridge bit the dust last night just to make it a banner day across the board.

 

[gianmarco]

Freaking knee injury.

Laying on the incline bench between sets with no weight on the left knee and all off a sudden a sharp needle like on the outside lower left knee. Couldn't walk for a few minutes. My best guess is ITBS but it seems a hair low. Started the stretching routine last night. If it's ITBS it will be gone in 2-3 days. Notice the left ITB was tender last night on the foam roller while the right wasn't. Stinks because I was starting to get into a groove.

Fridge bit the dust last night just to make it a banner day across the board.

I've had similar when I've gotten trigger points in my quads (small knots/muscle spasms). Feel around your quads above your knee and see if you find some tender spots. If so, hold pressure and massage them out.

 

[gruecd]

Been trying to run a nearby ~10K trail loop (almost 1,000 feet of gain) once a week to start acclimating my legs for R2R2R amidst my road marathon training. My PR is 50:13 back in 2020, and so far my three efforts this year have been 60:52, 59:36, and then 58:06 last night. Certainly trending in the right direction, but (a) it's hard to fathom running 50:13 again, and (b) it's really amazing how trail fitness is just entirely different than road fitness.

ETA: I just looked back, and it was 46° when I ran the course PR versus 80° yesterday.

Remind me again when you are planning R2R2R…November?

Been kicking that around in my head for 2024. Can’t wait to hear about your experience.

We're doing it on Friday, October 13. Oughtta be interesting!

 

[ChiefD]

Freaking knee injury.

Laying on the incline bench between sets with no weight on the left knee and all off a sudden a sharp needle like on the outside lower left knee. Couldn't walk for a few minutes. My best guess is ITBS but it seems a hair low. Started the stretching routine last night. If it's ITBS it will be gone in 2-3 days. Notice the left ITB was tender last night on the foam roller while the right wasn't. Stinks because I was starting to get into a groove.

Fridge bit the dust last night just to make it a banner day across the board.

Dang, that is a tough day. Hope your knee feels better soon and make sure the next fridge has a spot for a beer tap.

 

[Dr_Zaius]

Don't think I can do my usual wait until 10 or 11 AM to do my Saturday run. Dewpoint's supposed to be 76F and temperature will be hitting 90 before noon.

 

[caustic]

Don't think I can do my usual wait until 10 or 11 AM to do my Saturday run. Dewpoint's supposed to be 76F and temperature will be hitting 90 before noon.

I usually do the same, and I'll be in for a 165 SI start if I wait that long tomorrow. Think I have to shoot for 8 am or earlier (a brisk 150 SI ) instead.

The VO2 max tracker has been killing me for these hot runs lately. HR has been flying and I haven't really cared - in these conditions my goal is to just get out and run the mileage.

 

[ChiefD]

Don't think I can do my usual wait until 10 or 11 AM to do my Saturday run. Dewpoint's supposed to be 76F and temperature will be hitting 90 before noon.

I usually do the same, and I'll be in for a 165 SI start if I wait that long tomorrow. Think I have to shoot for 8 am or earlier (a brisk 150 SI ) instead.

The VO2 max tracker has been killing me for these hot runs lately. HR has been flying and I haven't really cared - in these conditions my goal is to just get out and run the mileage.

Yeah, that's about all you can do. Grind through it the best you can.

My Saturday routine right now is get up at 5:00, on the road at 6:00, home by 7:00.

When I was training for a fall marathon I'd get up at 4:00, on the road by 5, and home by 7ish. I would run east first and then make my last turn home going west if possible. That way the sun is just starting to come over the trees about 6:30 or so and the sun is at your back if you happen to be in open road.

But I would definitely plan my summer runs in shaded neighborhoods. Makes all the difference. Plus there are sprinklers going in the early morning for cool offs.

 

[Juxtatarot]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

 

[ChiefD]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

I think I can speak for the others:

you suck.

 

[Juxtatarot]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

I think I can speak for the others:

you suck.

Still moving to northern Wisconsin?

 

[gianmarco]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

"Way to read the room, guy" -- @JShare87

 

[Juxtatarot]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

"Way to read the room, guy" -- @JShare87

Oh, I’m reading it!

 

[Dr_Zaius]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

"Way to read the room, guy" -- @JShare87

Oh, I’m reading it!

Yeah, this is the perfect time for jshare to one up our 160 SI complaints with 170 or something crazy. It can be his way of atoning for his mid-February "it was a bit nippy at 55, needed the gloves" posts.

 

[BassNBrew]

170 right now in Charlotte

 

[gianmarco]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

"Way to read the room, guy" -- @JShare87

Oh, I’m reading it!

Yeah, this is the perfect time for jshare to one up our 160 SI complaints with 170 or something crazy. It can be his way of atoning for his mid-February "it was a bit nippy at 55, needed the gloves" posts.

I shared it with some here, but my wife set the PR for this last night.

She ran 14 miles in 102/75... SI of 177!!

There goes any way I can complain any more.

 

[JShare87]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

"Way to read the room, guy" -- @JShare87

Exactly. F this guy.

 

[AAABatteries]

I'm drinking at least a gallon of water every day for "75 Hard." I don't know how much more "loading" I can do.

Is there any worry that you are drinking "too much" water for training? I know that hyponatremia is a real thing.

I remember years ago when I started running and before I hit this thread a friend of mine who was a triathlete warned me about overhydrating due to the fact it can wash important nutrients out of your system.

I'm sure some of you smarter guys can clarify that but to me it's something to think about as you consume all that water.

In general, that's a bigger concern as a one time event, like a race, where you lose a lot of salt and replace the water too rapidly without replacing the sodium. Not over time because your body will let you know that you need salt and it'll adjust it in your urine over time.

Along those lines, the crazy thing for me is that I'm NOT a big salt waster. I never have any of those salt lines or residue on my face or clothes or anything. The sweat isn't salty, doesn't burn my eyes, none of the classic stuff of big salt wasting. Even still, I've been increasing my overall salt intake when I eat and I take salt tabs when I go out to run and I think I'm going to start bring some with me to take during runs as well. Plus, there's sodium in the GU.

If I were going to continue doing marathons (which I'm not), I would strongly consider doing a sweat analysis test at this point so I can figure this out. But, I'm just going to ride through this and try to not die in the next 2 months.

Have you noticed a difference in the amount of sweat with the increase of salt?

Just spitballing, but is it possible the extra salt is causing you to retain more fluids which then gets released on your runs. Essentially causing a vicious/moist cycle of excess stored fluids and excess sweating?

I know you've always been a high volume sweater, just not sure if the extra salt is helping or exacerbating the issue.

Nah. It's always like this. Actually, when it first starts getting hot, it's not as bad. But then it upregulates as I heat acclimate. I only recently started increasing it as I forgot about needing to. But I remember it being better in the past when I did so.

I may not lose as much salt as others, but I'm still definitely losing some and so the increased sodium intake is helpful.

Btw, I didn't even mention that instead of having that salty crust, I've actually had foamy sweat at end of longer/harder runs. I had it today at the end. Had it after my long run this weekend. Had it at the end of my 10 miles the week before. I tried searching about it but didn't find much about why. Considering it was there today but I felt great, I'm not worried about it, but basically it looks and feels like soap. It looked just like this.

 

[MAC_32]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

The southern great lakes are a wonderful place to live - just one reading above 86 so far here.

 

[ChiefD]

We’ve had such a mild summer here. Highs of only 82 tomorrow and 78 on Sunday. Today is in the low 90s but that’s been rare. Almost always in the 60s at night.

I think I can speak for the others:

you suck.

Still moving to northern Wisconsin?

Still possible. My older son is a senior in high school this year, so starting to look again.

 

[AAABatteries]

I don’t follow the thread too closely but please tell me there’s at least been a discussion about someone buying this

BMF

 

[ChiefD]

So, the nerve test came out good. Doesn't appear there is any nerve damage. Next stop will be the neurologist on the 9th of August.

Now, when I go to the doctor I usually text random people asking them stupid questions about the doctor visit. Usually this is my brothers. Yesterday I text @gianmarco :



Me: Is it normal to strap an electrode to my dong for a neck procedure? They also put one on my taint.

Gian: That's the ground. So you don't burn to a crisp. They add it to the taint if there isn't enough dong.




Me in the waiting room:

I am crying laughing in the waiting room for a good ten minutes.

 

[AAABatteries]

Taint Ground would be a fantastic band or FF team name.

 

[Dr_Zaius]

I shared it with some here, but my wife set the PR for this last night.

She ran 14 miles in 102/75... SI of 177!!

That’s seriously impressive. Unless I had a source of ice, I think I’d tap out at 5 or 6 in those conditions.

My morning 8 today was rough but not horrible. The sun stayed in for most of it which helped a lot. Was 79/73 according to the phone.

 

[-OZ-]

All y’all just crushing it out there today
Huntsville sprint tri Saturday. Last year I did the relay with a buddy, this year I’ll go solo.

 

[Zasada]

I was going to come in here and post about my week, but I can't in good conscience shift the thread away from dong/taint electrode discussion.

 

[bushdocda]

I was going to come in here and post about my week, but I can't in good conscience shift the thread away from dong/taint electrode discussion.

Agreed. Always learning stuff up in here.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I signed up for a half marathon for October 22. With a 7:00 start, it’s very likely to be nice and cool/cold. I have no idea if I’ll be in ideal shape or not but I figure I should do something this fall!

 

[MAC_32]

I signed up for a half marathon for October 22. With a 7:00 start, it’s very likely to be nice and cool/cold. I have no idea if I’ll be in ideal shape or not but I figure I should do something this fall!

I  know I am not in ideal shape, but I figure I should do something this fall. Hoping once we have kids sports schedules I find a trail race that fits as I don't want to know my 10k and under times right now.

 

[bushdocda]

I’m about 2/3 through my workday and could really use a caffeinated gu.

 

[tri-man 47]

@-OZ- , have you made up your mind, now, for the August challenge?

July's 7-minute ab workouts were tough, but effective. They rate right up there with the pull-ups, which I continue to do.

 

[-OZ-]

@-OZ- , have you made up your mind, now, for the August challenge?

July's 7-minute ab workouts were tough, but effective. They rate right up there with the pull-ups, which I continue to do.

I was going back and forth with the https://www.stjude.org/get-involved/other-ways/facebook-challenges.html but going settling with burpees! Aiming for 50 but that might be a bit much.

 

[tri-man 47]

@-OZ- , have you made up your mind, now, for the August challenge?

July's 7-minute ab workouts were tough, but effective. They rate right up there with the pull-ups, which I continue to do.

I was going back and forth with the https://www.stjude.org/get-involved/other-ways/facebook-challenges.html but going settling with burpees! Aiming for 50 but that might be a bit much for a senior citizen like you.

Fixed ...reality being what it is.

 

[-OZ-]

@-OZ- , have you made up your mind, now, for the August challenge?

July's 7-minute ab workouts were tough, but effective. They rate right up there with the pull-ups, which I continue to do.

I was going back and forth with the https://www.stjude.org/get-involved/other-ways/facebook-challenges.html but going settling with burpees! Aiming for 50 but that might be a bit much for a senior citizen like you.

Fixed ...reality being what it is.

Started this morning, planning to keep track of time and number. 50 / 4:30. Had to take a 30 second rest halfway through.

 

[MAC_32]

settling with burpees! Aiming for 50

Now that's some next level masochism.

 

[tri-man 47]

@-OZ- , have you made up your mind, now, for the August challenge?

July's 7-minute ab workouts were tough, but effective. They rate right up there with the pull-ups, which I continue to do.

I was going back and forth with the https://www.stjude.org/get-involved/other-ways/facebook-challenges.html but going settling with burpees! Aiming for 50 but that might be a bit much for a senior citizen like you.

Fixed ...reality being what it is.

Started this morning, planning to keep track of time and number. 50 / 4:30. Had to take a 30 second rest halfway through.

I’ll try some later today, but expect something more like 5 / Tuesday. I’ll wear my RoadID ‘cause that has next-of-kin information.

 

[bushdocda]

Welcome to August. It’s still summer. Keep going.

 

[MAC_32]

Welcome to August. It’s still summer. Keep going.

...or start going

 

[Zasada]

Welcome to August. It’s still summer. Keep going.

109F/72F at the weather station near my house right now. The thought crossed my mind to go out and try to break Mrs. @gianmarco 's record.

But said thought died a quick death.

 

[-OZ-]

last night’s ride SUCKED. My front tire was flat before I even started, so changed that and caught up to the crew when they got into the Arsenal (we stop after getting through the gate). Most of the usuals weren’t there so I rode with two of the fastest guys we have.
Doing decently enough until we checked out the new rocket man course. There’s a part that’s super bumpy; hit one the wrong way and now I have a second flat abs no tube they were so far ahead they didn’t even notice I had stopped. I called my wife to pick me up, thankfully she had just gotten home from Memphis (st Jude fundraiser with Signet) so she came to get me. I walked a couple miles in my socks, on a bumpy road and now I have a big blood blister on the ball of my foot.
I was able to run this morning but it hurts to walk

 

[Juxtatarot]

I live by a high school. During summers there are usually groups of high school “athletes” running around the school to stay/get in shape around the time I leave for work.

I’ve noticed they will stop at green lights, push the crosswalk button, and wait for the pedestrian crossing to turn green. It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen.

 

[-OZ-]

Just read a study:

Men completed 56.69 cycles/3 min and women – 48.84/3 min on average. The best male participant completed 82 burpees, and the best female participant – 73 burpees. The majority of male and female participants (66.71% and 68.18%, respectively) were characterized by average strength endurance in the 3‐Minute Burpee Test (range of scores: 47‐66 and 37‐60 cycles/3 min, respectively).



Edit - it seems these are without push-ups. Burpees in the Army always included push-ups, so I’ll do it that way.

 

[tri-man 47]

Just read a study:

Men completed 56.69 cycles/3 min and women – 48.84/3 min on average. The best male participant completed 82 burpees, and the best female participant – 73 burpees. The majority of male and female participants (66.71% and 68.18%, respectively) were characterized by average strength endurance in the 3‐Minute Burpee Test (range of scores: 47‐66 and 37‐60 cycles/3 min, respectively).



Edit - it seems these are without push-ups. Burpees in the Army always included push-ups, so I’ll do it that way.

FYI, I'm doing them with the push-up, too. Just gotta clean up the technique of it all.