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Triple Lakes Trail Race 40 Mile Race Report(2 of 2)

The Race
(broken into sections between aid stations)

Miles 0-6.6 (11:37/mi)

After an initial section on the greenway the course quickly moved to single track. Because the half marathon shares the course for the first 6 miles or so, things were very crowded here. I wasn’t too upset about this because going out too fast has always been a big failure mode for me. Not knowing the course, I was surprised that it was much more technical than I had anticipated. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nothing crazy and it’s almost all eminently runnable if one is so inclined, but there were way more roots than I expected, and that would end up putting a lot of stress on my feet. I guess the finishing times in the past versus the elevation profile should have clued me in. The plus side versus expectation is that the course is almost entirely shaded, which was important with temperatures nearing 80 in the middle of the race. The downside of technical + crowded is that it was hard to see up ahead, and 80% of my tripping occurred in the first ¼ of the race. The gnarlier sections also made my “don’t run for more than 15 minutes straight” plan moot, as there were always at least little sections where walking was clearly the right play for me.

Incidentally, while prerace I was worried about heat, after running the course what I really should have been worried about was rain. There were extended sections that would have been a slippery nightmare if it was wet, so I dodged that weather whammy in hindsight.

Miles 6.6-11.9 (11:15/mi)

Less up and downs here, which between that and thinning out had me moving a little faster. I did trip and fall during mile 9, bruising and scraping my hands a bit. Somewhere during this section, either due to that trip or an earlier trip, my right IT band started acting up. I had issues with this probably a decade ago but it’s been totally fine for years, so I have to assume it was a bad step or two. It was tender but manageable, but having 30 miles to go and already being in some pain was pretty ominous. My right toes were also feeling blistery which confused me, until I got to the aid station and realized that shoe had somehow come untied. Oops.

Miles 11.9-18.9 (11:26/mi)

The wife and daughter met me at this aid station, so I stopped for a bit to chat. I also pounded a fair amount of water here as I realized I was a bit behind. This is a pretty easy stretch, but I knew I should hold back as I already had a large amount of fatigue and wear.

Miles 18.9-24.4 (12:10/mi)

Out and back to and from the turnaround here. Halfway is always a big milestone for me, and somewhere before halfway the thought of dropping popped into my head as I knew a wall of pain was eventually coming, but if I quit I’d have to sign up for another one of these to actually finish, plus my family had come with me, and I pushed it out of my mind and didn’t really think about it again. I was surprised that I was intermittently passing people in this section, because I didn’t feel like I was moving all that well.

Miles 24.4-32 (14:17/mi)

This was the other easier stretch, but I was really feeling it and not taking good advantage of it. My wife walked a bit with me from an aid station in the middle of the section, and I snacked and used a portable massager during that time. The visit slowed me down a bit but was very welcome for a mental boost. Shortly after that I came across a friendly young lady, and we ran a nice 4 miles together in the 11:00-12:00 range. I would have loved to stay with her, but the muscles in my feet as well as my right IT band were really unhappy by this point, and I warned her before the aid station that I was going to walk the first 5 minutes out of there and that she should keep running her race. I wouldn’t see her again until the finish. Surprisingly I’m pretty sure she’s the only person that passed me in the last 25 miles.

Miles 32-37.4 (14:45/mi)

This was the nadir for me, with a lot of walking and pain and a seemingly interminable distance ahead of me. I met my wife again during this stretch, and I think sensing my mood she passed along messages from my kids, siblings, and other family members. The encouragement and support definitely helped keep me going. Towards the end of this section I came to the startling realization that running and taking biggish strides was actually slightly less painful than walking, so I started moving better. The problem was that I would run for a few minutes and then take a goofy step, leading to a flash of pain that would push me back to walking. This cycle would basically repeat for the last 5 miles.

Miles 37.4-41.4 (12:56/mi)

I was now moving pretty decently here doing the long strides then walk thing, especially considering that we were back to the rolling hills with lots of roots. I held back a bit though because I didn’t actually know +/- a mile where the finish was. I passed two guys in rough shape with a mile or so to go. Soon I could hear the finish line, and when I was certain it was indeed shortly ahead went back to running, made the final turn waving to my wife and daughter, then did a sort of long hop over the timing mat that the photographer somehow caught perfectly and gave me a nice finishing photo for once. I then hobbled over to the picnic tables and had my wife get me some bacon and a coke.

Final Time : 9:08:44 (13:14/mi), 27th out of 52 finishers.

Avg moving pace 12:28/mi. 5:25:16 running, 3:17:27 walking, 26:01 idle according to Garmin

Post-race thoughts
When I signed up, I had to enter a time, so I swagged 8:30. I came in substantially slower than that, but I would describe myself as content with my time as I didn’t have any firm expectations and I knew realistically the whole ordeal was a stretch for my training. I would have been mildly disappointed to be over 10 hours, and I would have considered missing the 12 hour cutoff or any other DNF as a failure.

Interestingly, out of the things I was worried about, most were manageable. I drank enough, as evidenced by a few pit stops in the woods. I was able to get enough calories down, and apart from a sour burp or two my stomach held up. My feet were a bit blistered and painful but not enough to really slow me down, and I had absolutely no chafing anywhere else. The IT was a bummer and a hindrance, and part of me wonders what a different race day without that issue would have yielded, as it definitely wasn’t my aerobic fitness that held me back. On the other hand, what I think ultimately would have still limited me was the muscles in my feet not being conditioned to take the pounding required, which would have required a lot more mileage from me to mitigate. The day after every step was agonizing due to the muscles on the bottom of my feet being absolutely trashed. Fortunately that abated pretty quickly, and I walked with my coworkers Monday afternoon with some discomfort but at my usual pace.

I went into this race viewing it as probably being a bucket list, one time thing, and I think that’s where I’m still at. I’m extremely glad I did it, as it was a race experience unlike anything else I’ve ever done, and it will definitely be a fond memory once the short term pain fades. Which speaking of, 6 days later things are pretty good : some minor feet complaints yet, and the hips are still surprisingly tender, but other than that I’m feeling pretty good. I’ve got my Thanksgiving weekend and New Year’s 5Ks coming up, but other than those no future plans, so I’ll have to think about that as the year closes out.

Great race and report. So happy for you to be able to knock this off you bucket list.

With so many unknowns with this race -- new distance, new trail, temps, having to travel -- you had a plan and stuck to it. That says a lot about your mental toughness, because I can only imagine how brutal this length of a race is on your mind and body.

Excellent job. You're a total badass :thumbup:
 
This has been an interesting running year for me. Started off strong, training for a March 5K setting PRs in the 5 mile and 5K, but also hurt my knee in the process. The knee injury forced me to take some time off in April and ended up with 75 miles for the month, this was the first month since April of 2017 I didn’t get in at least 100.

It took longer than expected for the knee to heal up, but once it did I had two decent months of training in May and June. I was able to run two respectable 5ks off that training but after the second one (4th of July) I ended up straining my calf. This one was frustrating in that it didn’t hurt unless I was running. There was a 3 week period there where I would wake up feel fine and try running, make it about 1/8 mile and turn around and walk home. I only got in 35 miles in the month of July and 28 of them occurred prior to the injury. I have been fortunate throughout the years keeping healthy, since Jan 2012 there have been 6 months total that I haven’t been able to run 100 miles in a month and I had two occurrences this year.

August 1 is the day felt recovered from the calf injury and I was able to run my normal 6 mile recovery run. I was 16.5 weeks out from the Philadelphia marathon and typically I like to follow a Pfitz 18 week plan. Before the injury I planned on going with the Pfitz 85 but knew I couldn’t just jump into that. I hadn’t been in this poor of shape since getting Covid in 2020.

I decided to not follow a plan and focus on building up weekly mileage slowly, run a long run each week, and when ready run one workout a week.

Training has gone well haven’t missed a day of running since Aug 1. Going into this 10k, per the way I track my fitness I felt like I was in comparable fitness to 2015 (ran 36:43 10K and 2:59 marathon) and 2017 (ran 37:14 10K and a 3:09 marathon while attempting sub 3 marathon). If I couldn’t run close to 36:43 10K I probably wouldn’t attempt a sub 3 in Philly.

Things working in my favor for running under 36:43: my 5k, 5 mile, and 10 mile PRs indicate I am capable of running faster than that. Also Magic shoes now.

Things working against me, back when I ran my PR I ran a decent amount of VO2 max work. This time I have done none, and the last sub 6-minute mile I have run was on July 4.


Run the Bridge Race Report

Parked in the same parking garage Ned did back in 2015. This worked out perfectly, and I even able to run some uphill strides and I could get to the start in about 5 minutes from there.

My 2015 race report I showed that my first mile was 6:19 on my way to an overall 5:53 pace. There is a 0.6 mile hill to start the race but I also got stuck in traffic at the start in 2015. The plan was to move up closer to the front at the start and try to run the first 0.6 mile of the race under 6:10, hoping to finish mile 1 at 6:00. I wanted to give myself an opportunity to run sub 36 and figured the best way to do so was to run mile 1 at 6:00 and the rest of the race at 5:45.

Mile 1

This mile went according to plan, this is the first time I running in the Alphafly 3s and they are so much more comfortable than the original. I got to the first mile marker in 6:02.

Mile 2

While running downhill I start catching up to one of the best masters runners in the Philadelphia area at the age of 56. He is always among the top performers in the age-graded results. I know that he ran a 35:16 here last year, I have never been anywhere near him in a race before so I decided that I was going to do my best to keep up with him. I get to the 2 mile marker in 5:43 and I’m happy with that.

Mile 3

The first quarter mile of mile 3 is uphill and it’s good to have my unofficial pacer ahead of me. The long gradual downhill the rest of this mile is my favorite of any course I have raced. It doesn’t disappoint today, I finish this mile at 5:47.

Mile 4

Here I start to notice that I’m gaining on the masters runner, I have a decision to make here. Do I try to pass him or keep pacing off him. I decided to pass him, encouraged him to go with me and he didn’t. This kind of flipped a switch for me and in my mind I was racing him and just didn’t want to be caught. This was my fastest mile of the day 5:36.

Mile 5

I’m hurting and I can’t even see the next runner ahead of me. There was a 50 second gap between the runner ahead of me and myself. My running form is deteriorating so badly that I am kicking my left calf with my right shoe. Post race I have a scrap/bruise from it. My pace for mile 5 was 5:42, and I am good with that.

Mile 6

In the prerace announcements, they mentioned that they changed mile 6 to make it more scenic, but admitted it made the course slower with a bunch of new turns. I don’t know if it was the turns or the course length changed a bit (my GPS measured 0.08 longer than previous years) but of the runners that finished in the top 20 this year that ran last year all ran slower this year. 4th 40 secs, 8th 50, 12th 50, and 19 1:24.

I am tired and I am not appreciating all the new turns, especially in the Alphaflys. I love the shoe and wore them for this race because I wanted to try them out before the marathon. With all the turns there are plenty of opportunities to turn back to see if anyone is close to me, but I don’t. I think in large part because I had to yell out to my son during his cross-country races to stop looking back. My pace for this mile is 5:52 but during the race I have no idea as I’m just trying get this thing over with. I know from the prerace announcements that we finish on a track and right before we get there I hear a runner trying to pass me. I took off immediately and sprinted onto the track. I remember being relieved that it was less than 150 meters to the finish and a little disappointed when I saw the clock. I was hoping to be under 36. I finished in 36:18, 17th overall and 3rd fastest Master.

Finishing 3rd meant that I won $125 and I had to fill out a tax form which is a first for me. I feel good about my effort in this one, but I’m confident I have sub 36 in my future.

As for a marathon goal, I think I’ll wear a 3:00 pace band and if I feel good I may run faster while keeping my HR under 155. I averaged 156 in Indy my marathon PR. My current challenge is to avoid getting sick, my wife tested positive Sunday morning for Covid.
 
Finishing 3rd meant that I won $125 and I had to fill out a tax form which is a first for me. I feel good about my effort in this one, but I’m confident I have sub 36 in my future.

Actual cash prize! Great run. I saw it on Strava, and was just

:jawdrop:

So impressive. Sorry you didn't hit your <36 goal, given your training and recovery it feels like you've got that in your future. And a sub-3 marathon. Keep kicking ***!
 
This has been an interesting running year for me. Started off strong, training for a March 5K setting PRs in the 5 mile and 5K, but also hurt my knee in the process. The knee injury forced me to take some time off in April and ended up with 75 miles for the month, this was the first month since April of 2017 I didn’t get in at least 100.

It took longer than expected for the knee to heal up, but once it did I had two decent months of training in May and June. I was able to run two respectable 5ks off that training but after the second one (4th of July) I ended up straining my calf. This one was frustrating in that it didn’t hurt unless I was running. There was a 3 week period there where I would wake up feel fine and try running, make it about 1/8 mile and turn around and walk home. I only got in 35 miles in the month of July and 28 of them occurred prior to the injury. I have been fortunate throughout the years keeping healthy, since Jan 2012 there have been 6 months total that I haven’t been able to run 100 miles in a month and I had two occurrences this year.

August 1 is the day felt recovered from the calf injury and I was able to run my normal 6 mile recovery run. I was 16.5 weeks out from the Philadelphia marathon and typically I like to follow a Pfitz 18 week plan. Before the injury I planned on going with the Pfitz 85 but knew I couldn’t just jump into that. I hadn’t been in this poor of shape since getting Covid in 2020.

I decided to not follow a plan and focus on building up weekly mileage slowly, run a long run each week, and when ready run one workout a week.

Training has gone well haven’t missed a day of running since Aug 1. Going into this 10k, per the way I track my fitness I felt like I was in comparable fitness to 2015 (ran 36:43 10K and 2:59 marathon) and 2017 (ran 37:14 10K and a 3:09 marathon while attempting sub 3 marathon). If I couldn’t run close to 36:43 10K I probably wouldn’t attempt a sub 3 in Philly.

Things working in my favor for running under 36:43: my 5k, 5 mile, and 10 mile PRs indicate I am capable of running faster than that. Also Magic shoes now.

Things working against me, back when I ran my PR I ran a decent amount of VO2 max work. This time I have done none, and the last sub 6-minute mile I have run was on July 4.


Run the Bridge Race Report

Parked in the same parking garage Ned did back in 2015. This worked out perfectly, and I even able to run some uphill strides and I could get to the start in about 5 minutes from there.

My 2015 race report I showed that my first mile was 6:19 on my way to an overall 5:53 pace. There is a 0.6 mile hill to start the race but I also got stuck in traffic at the start in 2015. The plan was to move up closer to the front at the start and try to run the first 0.6 mile of the race under 6:10, hoping to finish mile 1 at 6:00. I wanted to give myself an opportunity to run sub 36 and figured the best way to do so was to run mile 1 at 6:00 and the rest of the race at 5:45.

Mile 1

This mile went according to plan, this is the first time I running in the Alphafly 3s and they are so much more comfortable than the original. I got to the first mile marker in 6:02.

Mile 2

While running downhill I start catching up to one of the best masters runners in the Philadelphia area at the age of 56. He is always among the top performers in the age-graded results. I know that he ran a 35:16 here last year, I have never been anywhere near him in a race before so I decided that I was going to do my best to keep up with him. I get to the 2 mile marker in 5:43 and I’m happy with that.

Mile 3

The first quarter mile of mile 3 is uphill and it’s good to have my unofficial pacer ahead of me. The long gradual downhill the rest of this mile is my favorite of any course I have raced. It doesn’t disappoint today, I finish this mile at 5:47.

Mile 4

Here I start to notice that I’m gaining on the masters runner, I have a decision to make here. Do I try to pass him or keep pacing off him. I decided to pass him, encouraged him to go with me and he didn’t. This kind of flipped a switch for me and in my mind I was racing him and just didn’t want to be caught. This was my fastest mile of the day 5:36.

Mile 5

I’m hurting and I can’t even see the next runner ahead of me. There was a 50 second gap between the runner ahead of me and myself. My running form is deteriorating so badly that I am kicking my left calf with my right shoe. Post race I have a scrap/bruise from it. My pace for mile 5 was 5:42, and I am good with that.

Mile 6

In the prerace announcements, they mentioned that they changed mile 6 to make it more scenic, but admitted it made the course slower with a bunch of new turns. I don’t know if it was the turns or the course length changed a bit (my GPS measured 0.08 longer than previous years) but of the runners that finished in the top 20 this year that ran last year all ran slower this year. 4th 40 secs, 8th 50, 12th 50, and 19 1:24.

I am tired and I am not appreciating all the new turns, especially in the Alphaflys. I love the shoe and wore them for this race because I wanted to try them out before the marathon. With all the turns there are plenty of opportunities to turn back to see if anyone is close to me, but I don’t. I think in large part because I had to yell out to my son during his cross-country races to stop looking back. My pace for this mile is 5:52 but during the race I have no idea as I’m just trying get this thing over with. I know from the prerace announcements that we finish on a track and right before we get there I hear a runner trying to pass me. I took off immediately and sprinted onto the track. I remember being relieved that it was less than 150 meters to the finish and a little disappointed when I saw the clock. I was hoping to be under 36. I finished in 36:18, 17th overall and 3rd fastest Master.

Finishing 3rd meant that I won $125 and I had to fill out a tax form which is a first for me. I feel good about my effort in this one, but I’m confident I have sub 36 in my future.

As for a marathon goal, I think I’ll wear a 3:00 pace band and if I feel good I may run faster while keeping my HR under 155. I averaged 156 in Indy my marathon PR. My current challenge is to avoid getting sick, my wife tested positive Sunday morning for Covid.
Well la-di-da I'll just not run much this year and at the last minute i'll just get ready for this race and oh by the way i'll just go ahead and win third while i'm out here and well guess what looks like i'm collecting checks now so i'll just wave that dough around since i'm a professional runner now you mere peasants.............
 
Well la-di-da I'll just not run much this year and at the last minute i'll just get ready for this race and oh by the way i'll just go ahead and win third while i'm out here and well guess what looks like i'm collecting checks now so i'll just wave that dough around since i'm a professional runner now you mere peasants.............
:lmao:
 
Great race/great report, @pbm107 ! Smart of you to let the strong masters runner do your pacing over those early miles. And the good news is that unless you receive more than $600 from the race organization, they won't report it.
 
This has been an interesting running year for me. Started off strong, training for a March 5K setting PRs in the 5 mile and 5K, but also hurt my knee in the process. The knee injury forced me to take some time off in April and ended up with 75 miles for the month, this was the first month since April of 2017 I didn’t get in at least 100.

It took longer than expected for the knee to heal up, but once it did I had two decent months of training in May and June. I was able to run two respectable 5ks off that training but after the second one (4th of July) I ended up straining my calf. This one was frustrating in that it didn’t hurt unless I was running. There was a 3 week period there where I would wake up feel fine and try running, make it about 1/8 mile and turn around and walk home. I only got in 35 miles in the month of July and 28 of them occurred prior to the injury. I have been fortunate throughout the years keeping healthy, since Jan 2012 there have been 6 months total that I haven’t been able to run 100 miles in a month and I had two occurrences this year.

August 1 is the day felt recovered from the calf injury and I was able to run my normal 6 mile recovery run. I was 16.5 weeks out from the Philadelphia marathon and typically I like to follow a Pfitz 18 week plan. Before the injury I planned on going with the Pfitz 85 but knew I couldn’t just jump into that. I hadn’t been in this poor of shape since getting Covid in 2020.

I decided to not follow a plan and focus on building up weekly mileage slowly, run a long run each week, and when ready run one workout a week.

Training has gone well haven’t missed a day of running since Aug 1. Going into this 10k, per the way I track my fitness I felt like I was in comparable fitness to 2015 (ran 36:43 10K and 2:59 marathon) and 2017 (ran 37:14 10K and a 3:09 marathon while attempting sub 3 marathon). If I couldn’t run close to 36:43 10K I probably wouldn’t attempt a sub 3 in Philly.

Things working in my favor for running under 36:43: my 5k, 5 mile, and 10 mile PRs indicate I am capable of running faster than that. Also Magic shoes now.

Things working against me, back when I ran my PR I ran a decent amount of VO2 max work. This time I have done none, and the last sub 6-minute mile I have run was on July 4.


Run the Bridge Race Report

Parked in the same parking garage Ned did back in 2015. This worked out perfectly, and I even able to run some uphill strides and I could get to the start in about 5 minutes from there.

My 2015 race report I showed that my first mile was 6:19 on my way to an overall 5:53 pace. There is a 0.6 mile hill to start the race but I also got stuck in traffic at the start in 2015. The plan was to move up closer to the front at the start and try to run the first 0.6 mile of the race under 6:10, hoping to finish mile 1 at 6:00. I wanted to give myself an opportunity to run sub 36 and figured the best way to do so was to run mile 1 at 6:00 and the rest of the race at 5:45.

Mile 1

This mile went according to plan, this is the first time I running in the Alphafly 3s and they are so much more comfortable than the original. I got to the first mile marker in 6:02.

Mile 2

While running downhill I start catching up to one of the best masters runners in the Philadelphia area at the age of 56. He is always among the top performers in the age-graded results. I know that he ran a 35:16 here last year, I have never been anywhere near him in a race before so I decided that I was going to do my best to keep up with him. I get to the 2 mile marker in 5:43 and I’m happy with that.

Mile 3

The first quarter mile of mile 3 is uphill and it’s good to have my unofficial pacer ahead of me. The long gradual downhill the rest of this mile is my favorite of any course I have raced. It doesn’t disappoint today, I finish this mile at 5:47.

Mile 4

Here I start to notice that I’m gaining on the masters runner, I have a decision to make here. Do I try to pass him or keep pacing off him. I decided to pass him, encouraged him to go with me and he didn’t. This kind of flipped a switch for me and in my mind I was racing him and just didn’t want to be caught. This was my fastest mile of the day 5:36.

Mile 5

I’m hurting and I can’t even see the next runner ahead of me. There was a 50 second gap between the runner ahead of me and myself. My running form is deteriorating so badly that I am kicking my left calf with my right shoe. Post race I have a scrap/bruise from it. My pace for mile 5 was 5:42, and I am good with that.

Mile 6

In the prerace announcements, they mentioned that they changed mile 6 to make it more scenic, but admitted it made the course slower with a bunch of new turns. I don’t know if it was the turns or the course length changed a bit (my GPS measured 0.08 longer than previous years) but of the runners that finished in the top 20 this year that ran last year all ran slower this year. 4th 40 secs, 8th 50, 12th 50, and 19 1:24.

I am tired and I am not appreciating all the new turns, especially in the Alphaflys. I love the shoe and wore them for this race because I wanted to try them out before the marathon. With all the turns there are plenty of opportunities to turn back to see if anyone is close to me, but I don’t. I think in large part because I had to yell out to my son during his cross-country races to stop looking back. My pace for this mile is 5:52 but during the race I have no idea as I’m just trying get this thing over with. I know from the prerace announcements that we finish on a track and right before we get there I hear a runner trying to pass me. I took off immediately and sprinted onto the track. I remember being relieved that it was less than 150 meters to the finish and a little disappointed when I saw the clock. I was hoping to be under 36. I finished in 36:18, 17th overall and 3rd fastest Master.

Finishing 3rd meant that I won $125 and I had to fill out a tax form which is a first for me. I feel good about my effort in this one, but I’m confident I have sub 36 in my future.

As for a marathon goal, I think I’ll wear a 3:00 pace band and if I feel good I may run faster while keeping my HR under 155. I averaged 156 in Indy my marathon PR. My current challenge is to avoid getting sick, my wife tested positive Sunday morning for Covid.
We often read about middle aged-plus runners slowing down at some fraction of a percent each year until a steeper decline in (if IIRC) our sixties.

However, I think that can be more than made up for through consistency over the years and perhaps even a little more wisdom/experience. You are a good example of this. You’ve had injury issues this year but still managed to be faster than before! Congrats on a great race!
 
Mile 4

Here I start to notice that I’m gaining on the masters runner, I have a decision to make here. Do I try to pass him or keep pacing off him. I decided to pass him, encouraged him to go with me and he didn’t. This kind of flipped a switch for me and in my mind I was racing him and just didn’t want to be caught. This was my fastest mile of the day 5:36.
You literally baited the master.
 
Mile 4

Here I start to notice that I’m gaining on the masters runner, I have a decision to make here. Do I try to pass him or keep pacing off him. I decided to pass him, encouraged him to go with me and he didn’t. This kind of flipped a switch for me and in my mind I was racing him and just didn’t want to be caught. This was my fastest mile of the day 5:36.
You literally baited the master.
This was funny. Laugh emoji worthy for sure.
 
Philly vibes Checkin, @pbm107

Temps look good, hope the wind is in the correct direction.
Thanks, the dude is feeling pretty good. I am not sure if I am in PR shape (2:54:40), but I think I’m close.

My fitness and the race conditions should be better than Philly 2015 where I ran a 2:59:08 (6:50 pace).

I’m hoping I’ll be able to run faster than 6:50 while keeping my HR under 155 for the first half, if not I’ll try to run at 6:50.

Who knows what will happen on race day, but considering where I was August 1 I’m happy, feeling rested and 100% healthy.
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
Yeah for sure. I got so bored with my routes I moved to Wisconsin.

So you might try that.
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
A similar phenomenon happens on the bike. On one hand, it should be less monotonous because after 5-10 minutes your potential options are much wider than running as you can get places faster. On the other, once you discover a safer less congested road, you really don't want to mess with busy streets which is less of a problem with running.

Anyway, I seldom drive to a spot to start my route. The monotony really hits during the weekdays when I only have an hour to exercise, so I'm crunched for time and I suck it up. On weekends on long rides, I can get to places that I only go a few times per year.
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
Yeah for sure. I got so bored with my routes I moved to Wisconsin.

So you might try that.
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I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
I'm not going to be of help. Thankfully for my job I cover an 8 county area, so I was able to break this cycle. In healthier days the slog was always a tough one when confined to the same geographical area. I broke up the monotony by driving to some trails a few miles away, but...driving. Now I just pack a gym bag whenever I'm on the road, which is somewhat frequent.
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.

Yeah I pretty much run the same route all the time. I like it because I can just zone out and listen to my podcasts without worrying about wayfinding or distance. So I'm probably not going to be of much help unless "find a good podcast and have that be your distraction" is useful.
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
When I ran more I got tired of the same routes so I’d stop on the way home from work or go into the office and run before work.
Now I just swim, ride and lift. Which seems better than moving to Wisconsin. :oldunsure: 🧀
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
I love running new places and making some drives to reasonable spots. I hate running new places that end up not being all that runnable for traffic or whatever reason. Or trying to have a workout on a travel route that doesn’t support it very well.
The day to day controlled environment of my home rail trail is great to zone out and for workouts so those make sense but I wish I could get to different long run spots quicker but driving to a long run just adds more time to a long morning away that isn’t often good for me.
 
I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.
I have a lot of variety from my new location (as of two years ago), including lots of hill options, so I don’t need to drive to a location. But I do enjoy some destination runs, such as going to the local Arboretum that’s 10 minutes away. I like the anticipation of getting to a location and, then, the relaxing drive back home.
 
When I ran more I got tired of the same routes so I’d stop on the way home from work or go into the office and run before work.
Unfortunately my office is situated in an area with really crappy running routes. Which is a shame because there's a shower at work I can use. I've done the run commute a couple of times, but for some reason it freaks my wife out, which I don't get because it's not really any more dangerous than the normal running I do, but a couple of decades of marriage teach you that some fights aren't worth having. There's talk of relocating the office to an area that would happen to have awesome running routes, but that's a few years away.
I like the anticipation of getting to a location and, then, the relaxing drive back home.
My main issue with this is the same as bushdocda's in that I'm often squeezing a run in to a tight schedule already, so even an extra 20 minutes can be problematic. The other thing is how do I keep my car from getting all slimy and sweaty? Less of a problem in the coming months, but I feel like the steering wheel is a disaster after I drive home following a hot summer run.
 
My winter options aren’t great when it is dark and there are potentially icy sidewalks. Otherwise, though, I have a ton of different routes I can run including to several forest preserves for long runs. It’s also cool to be familiar with almost every side street for miles and miles around where I live.
 
My winter options aren’t great when it is dark and there are potentially icy sidewalks. Otherwise, though, I have a ton of different routes I can run including to several forest preserves for long runs. It’s also cool to be familiar with almost every porta potty for miles and miles around where I live.
Fixed.
 
In other news: I’m sitting in the local ER.

Last Saturday (in the home stretch of the zoo run, actually), my left leg got tingly and kind of numb. It felt like I couldn’t really control my muscles. It then spread to my left arm and hand. It lasted for about a minute, and then just stopped. It has happened almost every day since, and just once per day at different times. Same thing each time. The left hand shakes in a real jittery manner. I went into see my doc today …and it happened while I was in with him! Kinda freaked him out. “Weird” was his main reaction. So he decided to accelerate things and have me head to the ER for a stroke work up. I don’t think he believes it’s a stroke, given the nature of it all, but he wants to at least narrow down our options.

Eta: They kept me overnight to run more tests (MRI at 1 am). Likely culprit could be TIAs. Can’t wait to see the bill for all this.
 
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I really have a thing against driving to run, so I do almost all of my runs from my house. The relative monotony has never bothered me before, but for whatever reason the last few months it's really bugging me. Has anybody else dealt with this? I see from Strava that a lot of you are similar in that you hit the same basic paths over and over, but I think I need a changeup.

I hate driving too, specifically for the wasted time. Where I live, we have hundreds of miles of bike/running paths, so I have decent options. I vary my route based on the number of miles I go and have different loops or out and backs for each. Some of these have overlaps, but that's expected as I am starting and ending at the same place.

I have a couple routes I do on the weekends only because there are a bunch of businesses that way and stop lights which I don't want to deal with during the week.

I almost always run the same direction on my routes, so if I get the blahs from a loop, I'll try going the opposite way...which I promptly hate and go back to the comfort of my normal routine.
 
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In other news: I’m sitting in the local ER.

Last Saturday (in the home stretch of the zoo run, actually), my left leg got tingly and kind of numb. It felt like I couldn’t really control my muscles. It then spread to my left arm and hand. It lasted for about a minute, and then just stopped. It has happened almost every day since, and just once per day at different times. Same thing each time. The left hand shakes in a real jittery manner. I went into see my doc today …and it happened while I was in with him! Kinda freaked him out. “Weird” was his main reaction. So he decided to accelerate things and have me head to the ER for a stroke work up. I don’t think he believes it’s a stroke, given the nature of it all, but he wants to at least narrow down our options.
Dang. Hope everything is ok.
 
So yes, I have a brain tumor. This feels incredibly surreal! :kicksrock: It’s small, but if I understand it right, it could be an undesirable glioma. Surgery will probably be the week after Thanksgiving. Then my BMF recovery training begins. If things go well, the doc says I can get back to regular routines. If things go well, doc says I should be able to compete in Boston 2026. But life has definitely become a new normal for me.
 
So yes, I have a brain tumor. This feels incredibly surreal! :kicksrock: It’s small, but if I understand it right, it could be an undesirable glioma. Surgery will probably be the week after Thanksgiving. Then my BMF recovery training begins. If things go well, the doc says I can get back to regular routines. If things go well, doc says I should be able to compete in Boston 2026. But life has definitely become a new normal for me.
Man. What a curveball.

I’m convinced your healthy lifestyle will bode well for this challenge.

Stay positive and I’m hoping to share the 2026 Boston start line with you!
 
So yes, I have a brain tumor. This feels incredibly surreal! :kicksrock: It’s small, but if I understand it right, it could be an undesirable glioma. Surgery will probably be the week after Thanksgiving. Then my BMF recovery training begins. If things go well, the doc says I can get back to regular routines. If things go well, doc says I should be able to compete in Boston 2026. But life has definitely become a new normal for me.
Man. What a curveball.

I’m convinced your healthy lifestyle will bode well for this challenge.

Stay positive and I’m hoping to share the 2026 Boston start line with you!

Agree with all of this.

Tough diagnosis, but glad they found it and have a plan. You are a true BMF and will be back.
 
Update: I'm finally back home. The final MRI test really just confirmed the presence of the tumor. I'll have brain surgery within the next two weeks ...maybe on 12/6, right after my fall classes end. They might be able to make an early judgment, based on the tissue they extract, but the definitive answer will come three weeks after the surgery following molecular testing. Worst case scenario is that this is a GBM (which John McCain had), which has the strong likelihood that I'll die within a year. All the other scenarios offer promise of full recovery, but with ongoing monitoring for reoccurrences. The brain doc's sense is the latter - a stage 3 (of 4) tumor that can be addressed rather than the dire outcome of a stage 4 GBM. Pray that it may be so.

Thanks for the support, guys. It truly means the world to me.

PS: The procedure is to cut out a small plate from the top of my skull, borrow one of @ChiefD 's micro-shovels, and scoop out much of the bad stuff. (JB, give them a flat-edged one so they can slide it between the two sides of the brain and not damage the good stuff.) They then top me off again and send me on my way.
 
Update: I'm finally back home. The final MRI test really just confirmed the presence of the tumor. I'll have brain surgery within the next two weeks ...maybe on 12/6, right after my fall classes end. They might be able to make an early judgment, based on the tissue they extract, but the definitive answer will come three weeks after the surgery following molecular testing. Worst case scenario is that this is a GBM (which John McCain had), which has the strong likelihood that I'll die within a year. All the other scenarios offer promise of full recovery, but with ongoing monitoring for reoccurrences. The brain doc's sense is the latter - a stage 3 (of 4) tumor that can be addressed rather than the dire outcome of a stage 4 GBM. Pray that it may be so.

Thanks for the support, guys. It truly means the world to me.

PS: The procedure is to cut out a small plate from the top of my skull, borrow one of @ChiefD 's micro-shovels, and scoop out much of the bad stuff. (JB, give them a flat-edged one so they can slide it between the two sides of the brain and not damage the good stuff.) They then top me off again and send me on my way.
I have the perfect shovel for this.

If the doc needs me in the room to show him how to use it just let me know. :thumbup:
 
So yes, I have a brain tumor. This feels incredibly surreal! :kicksrock: It’s small, but if I understand it right, it could be an undesirable glioma. Surgery will probably be the week after Thanksgiving. Then my BMF recovery training begins. If things go well, the doc says I can get back to regular routines. If things go well, doc says I should be able to compete in Boston 2026. But life has definitely become a new normal for me.
Here’s to everything going well!
 
Update: I'm finally back home. The final MRI test really just confirmed the presence of the tumor. I'll have brain surgery within the next two weeks ...maybe on 12/6, right after my fall classes end. They might be able to make an early judgment, based on the tissue they extract, but the definitive answer will come three weeks after the surgery following molecular testing. Worst case scenario is that this is a GBM (which John McCain had), which has the strong likelihood that I'll die within a year. All the other scenarios offer promise of full recovery, but with ongoing monitoring for reoccurrences. The brain doc's sense is the latter - a stage 3 (of 4) tumor that can be addressed rather than the dire outcome of a stage 4 GBM. Pray that it may be so.

Thanks for the support, guys. It truly means the world to me.

PS: The procedure is to cut out a small plate from the top of my skull, borrow one of @ChiefD 's micro-shovels, and scoop out much of the bad stuff. (JB, give them a flat-edged one so they can slide it between the two sides of the brain and not damage the good stuff.) They then top me off again and send me on my way.
Thinking about you GB. Hope the surgery etc. goes well. BMF's don't get no GBMs.
 
Update: I'm finally back home. The final MRI test really just confirmed the presence of the tumor. I'll have brain surgery within the next two weeks ...maybe on 12/6, right after my fall classes end. They might be able to make an early judgment, based on the tissue they extract, but the definitive answer will come three weeks after the surgery following molecular testing. Worst case scenario is that this is a GBM (which John McCain had), which has the strong likelihood that I'll die within a year. All the other scenarios offer promise of full recovery, but with ongoing monitoring for reoccurrences. The brain doc's sense is the latter - a stage 3 (of 4) tumor that can be addressed rather than the dire outcome of a stage 4 GBM. Pray that it may be so.

Thanks for the support, guys. It truly means the world to me.

PS: The procedure is to cut out a small plate from the top of my skull, borrow one of @ChiefD 's micro-shovels, and scoop out much of the bad stuff. (JB, give them a flat-edged one so they can slide it between the two sides of the brain and not damage the good stuff.) They then top me off again and send me on my way.
Huge thoughts and prayer for you.

Love you, GB.
 
Rooting for you, TM. I can't imagine what you're going through. Thank you for sharing and hoping for the best possible outcome for you. It's time for your healthy lifestyle to pay you back.
 
So yes, I have a brain tumor. This feels incredibly surreal! :kicksrock: It’s small, but if I understand it right, it could be an undesirable glioma. Surgery will probably be the week after Thanksgiving. Then my BMF recovery training begins. If things go well, the doc says I can get back to regular routines. If things go well, doc says I should be able to compete in Boston 2026. But life has definitely become a new normal for me.
Sending love GB.
 
Thanks for letting me know, @tri-man 47 , although I'll be honest- I was hoping it was for something like setting an IM PR and not this.

Sending all my love and healthy thoughts and prayers for every step of the way going well for you on this new journey.

If you get to wear an eye patch for whatever reason, please send pics.
 
Meanwhile since I'm posting here... I have crossed the 210 mark and have progressed from having a belly but basically fit to being jiggly all over with a newly on the beach discovered plumbers crack because the belly butt and shorts hate me. And special thanks to 13yo floppinha for pointing it out.
 

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