Ran a 10k - Official Thread (12 Viewers)

[bushdocda]

Indy on 11/8 doesn’t appear to be sold out @xulf

 

[xulf]

Indy on 11/8 doesn’t appear to be sold out @xulf

Thanks for thinking of that, it was also the first one I checked on. The only option available is the virtual run.

I signed up for the Marshall University Marathon on 11/2. I'm going to try and use the headphones since it's "discouraged" and the verbiage in the rules sounds like it's more of a liability issue and you are taking it on yourself if you are injured from it. I'll feel it out at the start and see how many people are using them. May just put them on once in the race and deal with whatever happens.

Now I need to figure out what to run this week. I've just tapered and stuffed my face with carbs all week. I'll probably go back a couple of weeks in my training and do some intervals at gmp-10 and then another long run at pace. I'm not sure how this 2 week add-on will disrupt things.

 

[MAC_32]

So speaking of the weather, what’s the worst conditions anyone here has had to race in? I can’t remember if anyone did 2018 Boston but that comes to mind as being up there and way worse than anything I’ve been subjected to.

I’ve been pretty fortunate with my races over the years but can think of two pretty unpleasant ones that stand out. There was a New Year’s 5K that was 15F with 30mph winds as well as a 5 mile trail race in May where a thunderstorm rolled through 30 minutes prior and then the sun came out and the whole forest felt like a steam sauna.

Half marathon 2016 - started in sleet, hail during, followed by a blinding down pour, and finished with a thunder snow storm.

And that's still runner up to the 2021 trail half marathon I did on a sheet of ice in steeply elevated woods.

 

[Dr_Zaius]

And that's still runner up to the 2021 trail half marathon I did on a sheet of ice in steeply elevated woods.

I remember you describing that one on here. Sounded insane.

 

[MAC_32]

And that's still runner up to the 2021 trail half marathon I did on a sheet of ice in steeply elevated woods.

I remember you describing that one on here. Sounded insane.

If I tried doing that race now I'd be in a perpetual loop trying to climb up one of those 150' 20+% grades of thick ice and sliding back down to the bottom. Queue the Benny Hill music

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Not much of a runner these days, but back in the day I used to follow along with this thread and got a ton of good ideas for training. Mostly ran half marathons, Cellcom, Marquette, Canal run, 10k and 5k's for training.

I transitioned to full time mtb biking which suits my strengths better. Short distance power is what I've got after years of plyometrics from hockey, weight lifting, biking, but my steady state efforts have always left a little to be desired.

So what do you guys do these days to improve those long distance efforts? I'm trying to be efficient in my training for a big race next year, but would like to try and increase my steady state while continuing to improve my power aswell, you know have my cake and eat it too. Just seeing what you long distance guys find the best bang for your buck outside of the obvious really long runs.

 

[beer 30]

So what do you guys do these days to improve those long distance efforts?

Being fat, lazy, slow with motivation efforts has always helped my ability to be slow and put in miles in the past. I've successfully transitioned this ability from running to riding so now I can go twice or three times as far and take even more time than when I was running

Think of a work horse vs a race horse, just go light on the work part of that.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

So what do you guys do these days to improve those long distance efforts?

Being fat, lazy, slow with motivation efforts has always helped my ability to be slow and put in miles in the past. I've successfully transitioned this ability from running to riding so now I can go twice or three times as far and take even more time than when I was running

Think of a work horse vs a race horse, just go light on the work part of that.

So you're saying stick to zone 2 and it'll work itself out. Pretty much what I've been doing, but i hate it so much .

 

[beer 30]

So what do you guys do these days to improve those long distance efforts?

Being fat, lazy, slow with motivation efforts has always helped my ability to be slow and put in miles in the past. I've successfully transitioned this ability from running to riding so now I can go twice or three times as far and take even more time than when I was running

Think of a work horse vs a race horse, just go light on the work part of that.

So you're saying stick to zone 2 and it'll work itself out. Pretty much what I've been doing, but i hate it so much .

1...2...tomato...tomatoe

 

[MAC_32]

So what do you guys do these days to improve those long distance efforts?

Being fat, lazy, slow with motivation efforts has always helped my ability to be slow and put in miles in the past. I've successfully transitioned this ability from running to riding so now I can go twice or three times as far and take even more time than when I was running

Think of a work horse vs a race horse, just go light on the work part of that.

So you're saying stick to zone 2 and it'll work itself out. Pretty much what I've been doing, but i hate it so much .

My anecdotal experience continues to run counter to general advice. There's been one constant as I've ridden the injury roller coaster- whenever I try to go over an hour, I get injured. First one to 75 minutes this season, bam, knee injury.

Sort of navigating around it, but it's clear I'm going to need a couple weeks off for it to get right again. As we're approaching fattening season, I'm trying to hold off until mother nature and the schedule sync up to short-term diet while I heal. When I do and start again I'm bagging anything over 45-60 minutes indefinitely.

 

[beer 30]

So what do you guys do these days to improve those long distance efforts?

Being fat, lazy, slow with motivation efforts has always helped my ability to be slow and put in miles in the past. I've successfully transitioned this ability from running to riding so now I can go twice or three times as far and take even more time than when I was running

Think of a work horse vs a race horse, just go light on the work part of that.

So you're saying stick to zone 2 and it'll work itself out. Pretty much what I've been doing, but i hate it so much .

My anecdotal experience continues to run counter to general advice. There's been one constant as I've ridden the injury roller coaster- whenever I try to go over an hour, I get injured. First one to 75 minutes this season, bam, knee injury.

Sort of navigating around it, but it's clear I'm going to need a couple weeks off for it to get right again. As we're approaching fattening season, I'm trying to hold off until mother nature and the schedule sync up to short-term diet while I heal. When I do and start again I'm bagging anything over 45-60 minutes indefinitely.

Fattening season - need to trade mark that

You every think about a bike? I feel like you've discussed this before and it isn't your bag but you can get some serious cardio in riding. Not me of course but you could.

 

[MAC_32]

So what do you guys do these days to improve those long distance efforts?

Being fat, lazy, slow with motivation efforts has always helped my ability to be slow and put in miles in the past. I've successfully transitioned this ability from running to riding so now I can go twice or three times as far and take even more time than when I was running

Think of a work horse vs a race horse, just go light on the work part of that.

So you're saying stick to zone 2 and it'll work itself out. Pretty much what I've been doing, but i hate it so much .

My anecdotal experience continues to run counter to general advice. There's been one constant as I've ridden the injury roller coaster- whenever I try to go over an hour, I get injured. First one to 75 minutes this season, bam, knee injury.

Sort of navigating around it, but it's clear I'm going to need a couple weeks off for it to get right again. As we're approaching fattening season, I'm trying to hold off until mother nature and the schedule sync up to short-term diet while I heal. When I do and start again I'm bagging anything over 45-60 minutes indefinitely.

Fattening season - need to trade mark that

You every think about a bike? I feel like you've discussed this before and it isn't your bag but you can get some serious cardio in riding. Not me of course but you could.

Very short answer- yes.

Long answer- but not right now. Our kids are currently in the peak taxi ages of 10, 13, and 15. Squeezing in any exercise is a chore, so I need efficiency and flexibility (pun unintended). As is I can detour to the woods in between meetings during the week, be on foot within minutes, and get enough cardio to be worth my while - even if it's only 30-35 mins.

I'm not sure if this will change next summer, but I'm confident it will come 2027. I just need to get there still in one piece. I'll still plan for cardio on foot, but I can't be reliant on it like I am now. I am going to install some pool work once this winter hits though.

 

[Dr_Zaius]

My anecdotal experience continues to run counter to general advice. There's been one constant as I've ridden the injury roller coaster- whenever I try to go over an hour, I get injured. First one to 75 minutes this season, bam, knee injury.

I can add my anecdote to yours. I've tried a couple of times to go the all zone 2 route and it's mostly led to injury and if not that I just stagnate. I've had much better luck pushing on the intensity side. Whether that's physiological or due to temperament issues is a chicken/egg argument at this point, as it just seems to hold true for me personally. Of course I'd presumably have better results if I had more time to devote or was willing to be more disciplined in my approach, but like everyone else I'm balancing a lot of stuff and running's just never going to be priority #1 for me at this point in my life.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Long story short for me is that I played sports all my life and hated running, it was punishment. My wife was a runner and got me hooked in the early 00s. I wasn't great, but not terrible, best HM time was around 1:40. Injuries though, first a foot, then a knee, then IT band, hips, the list goes on.

Run immediately upon waking up, or immediately after work. The discipline was there, but i got real sick of always having something nagging, enter mtb biking which is now my primary exercise/hobby, but I could be a lot better at the steady state rides. Whether it's running or biking I think it translates pretty well in that regard. Like I mentioned I've gotten some pretty good ideas from this thread over years which is why as I've aged I figured I'd ask others that have also aged what they find works best to increase/maintain their ability to push into those longer efforts.

And maybe that's where biking is different. Probably not going to get hurt on those long efforts as long as the rubber stays pointing down. I can hammer an hour in the higher zones in a race situation, but when things start getting longer i fade. I know my best days are behind me, but i still think I've got room to improve. The old athlete in me doesn't want to give up just yet.