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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (5 Viewers)

Xulf crushed the first lap at 1:34:34. If timing mats can be trusted he’s given back a bit of time the last 2 or 3 miles. Less than 4 to go.

That time was spot on. My dumbass still thought I could get in <3:10 to secure a Chicago bid. That didn't last too long on the back half :kicksrock:
 
Xulf crushed the first lap at 1:34:34. If timing mats can be trusted he’s given back a bit of time the last 2 or 3 miles. Less than 4 to go.

That time was spot on. My dumbass still thought I could get in <3:10 to secure a Chicago bid. That didn't last too long on the back half :kicksrock:
You know, the 2021 Half I ran with pbm I gunned for 1:32 and I blew up pretty good and was pretty pissed about it, but Paul afterwards gave me props for laying it out there on an ambitious goal. I always thought that was great perspective.
 
Consider me a sort of last minute addition to the racers this weekend. Last night I signed up for a local “rundown” event this afternoon. There’s a 1.6 mile cyclocross course in a grass field. You have 20 minutes to run a lap. Then 19:40 to run the next lap, 19:20 after that, etc. until there’s one person left.

No idea what to expect. Course has a bunch of serpentines and switchbacks so it’ll be super slow. Seems like there are usually only a couple dozen people or so that do this. I’m going to head over with water and some snacks to consume at the end of laps and just see what happens.
So I showed up at this and it was a pretty cool experience. The wife also trailed along which was much appreciated. About 20 people showed up, most of whom looked intimidatingly fit. The wife commented how everyone's legs were more muscular than mine. I wanted to do at least 10 laps (16 miles) and figured after that I'd just see how long I could hang on.

Course was indeed really slow. In addition to all of the turns, there was a section of whoops, a couple of serpentines that went alongside of a hill, and a couple of boards to jump. Also while the wind dried out most of the course, a lot of the turns were still mud on the inside from the rainy bike race Thursday night, so your choice was to carefully walk while hugging the inside, swing wide around the mud, or try to run the inside without slipping. Course also was largely downhill first half and uphill second half, which meant you really didn't want to fall behind pace early in the lap because it would be hard to make up. They actually changed the format so instead of 20:00, 19:40, 19:20, etc. per lap it was 20:00, 19:30, 19:00, etc., so things were going to come to a head sooner.

I would have liked to have 1:30 or so left over each lap, to give myself time to walk over to the board and check my box for a completed lap, sit down and get some water and utilize my snack pile. I tended to err on the side of too much time left, which was maybe a mistake later on. A couple of guys were really putting in fast laps, but they didn't end up having the fitness to keep that up and ended up flaming out near the end.

First laps were uneventful other than some blisters developing and getting pretty painful laps 4 and 5. I switched out to a different pair of shoes for laps 6 and 7 which made them worse, so I tried a third pair lap 8 and those worked to keep them annoying but manageable. We started losing people around this time, and when lap 10 ended only 9 of us made the cutoff, one poor guy missing by 2 seconds.

On lap 11 we were now one pack, albeit a bit spread out. I was in the back and it was clear going up hills or out of turns I had no more pop in my legs, but I was still feeling decent all things considered. When I finished I told my wife I definitely had one more in me, maybe two. Lap 12 went fine, but I finished without much time to spare and by the time I marked the board and fished out my headlamp (which I should I have had the lap before), I had to start 15 seconds late so I took off hard, thinking I had maybe a 20% chance of hitting the time. I was trying desperately to bank a bit of time on the downhill portion but between the darkness and the mud and the shot legs I felt like I was running like a drunken man, slipping around corners and such. I checked my watch around halfway and I was still 5 seconds or so behind pace with uphill switchbacks to go and knew I was cooked. I didn’t want to be a baby, though, so while I took my foot off the gas I forced myself to keep at least running. I ended up finishing 1:24 past the clock. Another dude timed out maybe 20 seconds ahead of me, so only 5 took off on lap 14. As it turned out only 1 made the cutoff on lap 14, and him only by 10 seconds, so that was it.

With better pacing in laps 7-9 I’m almost certain I could have survived lap 13. Lap 14 would have been a stretch, though. Still it’s a really fun idea and I’ll probably give it another go next year. I wish it was a little better organized, as there was no official clock and looking at my lap times I’m not sure time was kept super precisely, but hey for a low frills low key local race it’s fine. There are worse ways to log 20.8 miles. Only problem is I’m not sure when I’ll be ready for speedwork to try to sharpen for the Turkey Trot. Still, I don't feel too bad today and should be up for some lawn mowing and leaf raking.

Lap 1 - 15:31, 3:45 to rest
Lap 2 - 16:17, 3:11 to rest
Lap 3 - 16:39, 2:18 to rest
Lap 4 – 16:13, 2:21 to rest
Lap 5 – 16:16, 1:41 to rest
Lap 6 - 16:13, 0:46 to rest
Lap 7 – 15:13, 2:16 to rest
Lap 8 – 14:38, 1:53 to rest
Lap 9 – 14:07 , 1:50 to rest
Lap 10 – 14:45, 0:46 to rest
Lap 11 – 13:57, 1:02 to rest
Lap 12 – 14:07, 0:24 to rest
Lap 13 – 15:24, timed out
 
2025 NYC Marathon Race Report

Didn't think I'd be doing one of these again, but here we are.

Truth be told, when the Mrs. got the entry with Marathon Tours at the beginning of the year, I was really torn about signing up. It's always been the one marathon I wanted to do because of the marathon itself, always hearing great things. Asked @SteelCurtain at the time and he urged me to sign up. I didn't want to regret not doing it when having the chance so I went ahead and did it.

Over these last several months, this race has been on the back of my mind, just a constant nagging feeling, knowing I need to train and then, when the time came, knowing I needed to get out there. Between life, weather, and just overall desire, "training" was very limited. I would do enough to get out ~3 times/week, mostly 3-4 mile runs. Did a couple "long" runs of like 7-8 miles and felt ok. At least having done them before, I wondered if I could just get through it mentally despite lack of training.

About a month ago, the Mrs. says she's going to run it with me the whole time. Not what I was expecting, but also a big "uh oh". Almost 3 weeks ago, with my running decreasing, woke up and decided to see if I could just get 1 long run done. I was legit considering withdrawing from the race because I wasn't sure it would be smart. Especially after how Berlin went a couple years ago.

Got 16 miles done out of nowhere, first 8 miles were ok, last 8 miles were absolutely miserable, but I realized if I can at least do that, then I'll get NYC done.

Got to NYC on Friday (Halloween), got to see family and friends both Friday and Saturday. Lots of walking on Saturday, but whatever. Then it was game day. My plan was do the walk/run I've been doing (4 minutes run and 1 minute walk) for at least 13-16, then go from there.

Tour group with a bus from hotel at 530am to get us to the starters village then the long wait until the final wave (wave 5) at 11:30am. Weather is chilly in the 40s but looking to be perfect for the day in the mid 50s throughout. Brought inflatable chairs and just hung out until close to the start. GB SC was able to visit before starting his amazing pacing duties.

I'll break it up into sections of how I felt.

Miles 1-2 -- Start of the race is on the Verrazano Bridge, first mile up, second mile down. Took it easy going up, good bit of walking, and then just ran the whole thing down. Was feeling good. On the way down, heard it was someone's birthday and got everyone around us to sing Happy Birthday. Pretty cool moment.

Miles 3-4 -- Get off the bridge and try to get into the run/walk groove and line up the timing. But I'm noticing my HR is a lot higher than I'd like, almost at 160 already. That's not good. Not sure if it was running the bridge down, getting into the crowds, or what, but I was getting a bit worried. As we started with the crowds I was high fiving people on the side and the Mrs. could tell I was really sweating and yelled at me to stop and wait to do that until halfway. She could see I wasn't feeling it. I listened to her, and decided to just relax, get into a groove, and fix it

Miles 5-16 -- I started fueling, drinking, and getting into a good rhythm and finally started feeling good. Her sister flew back to NYC (she used to live there) to see us as well as another friend that was running. We got to see her just before mile 8 and again just after mile 12. Very cool, we got to stop and take pictures, and was just adding to the race. Crowds and support just kept building and was so awesome. I knew I would be "ok". Paces were pretty consistent (on Strava, mile 8 was 13ish min/mile due to stopping for pictures as well as potty break for the Mrs, but otherwise just kept cruising. HR mostly in upper 140s, low 150s. In good shape.

Mile 16 -- Queensboro bridge. Had heard this is tough. Decided to just walk it all the way up. On the way up, legs started tightening up. Ran it down and legs were really not liking it. Told her I'll do my best to get to Mile 20 but not sure I can do this to the finish.

Mile 17-19 -- Legs really hurting. The changes between running and walking were getting harder. HR was fine, but this going to be a tough final 10k. Made the decision and told her I could run the final 10k but it's going to be miserable and I'd rather walk and enjoy it. She's all for it.

Miles 20-24 -- Started walking. Since she has a harder time keeping up walking with me she's just doing a slow shuffle. So I'm just trying to walk as fast as I can. I look down and see 14ish min/mile pace. Whoa, not what I was expecting. HR still low, around 105ish, so I try to keep pushing the walking pace. Kept it up for 4 miles and was down in the 13s even doing nothing but walking. We were actually passing runners. Now, the back of knees were ON FIRE, feet were barking, but otherwise I was in great shape and enjoying the last part of the race. Goal now is to get in before 5pm when the sun sets.

Miles 25-26.2 -- Mile 24 is this sneaky brutal climb before you get into Central Park. I was really pushing. It was a relief to see some downhills as we got into the park so I started running them. It actually felt good after the walking. Ran every downhill then would walk in between. For the last mile, decided to save it for the last 400m so we could run it in together. And that's what we did.

Overall time was 5:23:58. Nothing special, but considering everything, I'll take it. Most important was that we got to do it together and really enjoyed so much of it. Got to eat food from the crowd, take pictures, even had a shot of beer together and just took it all in. Crowds were incredible, weather was perfect, and in the end, I'm SO glad I listened to SC and signed up at the beginning of the year.

Definitely sore today, but otherwise feeling good, got the bad taste of Berlin out, and got to see how the experience of doing this before could carry me to the end. Not finishing wasn't an option, but that I did it and had fun doing it, that's what counts. Oh, and the Mrs. said this was her most fun marathon ever, getting all the candy and pictures and just enjoying the whole experience.
 
well la-di-da just decided on a whim to do the curly shuffle all the way through 26.2 miles in new york city and all the while act like a tourist by eating food, drinking some brews and being a total picture whore with all the admirers who were clearly there to see me work the crowd like the mayor of new york and oh did i mention i didn't even really train for this or care about it until i got there and had a ball on a long stroll with my very patient wife and totally smash my goal of 6 hours and i didn't even have to walk in the dark..........
 
I'm still logging some miles - not nearly motivated/disciplined enough to be doing what I "should" but I am running somewhere between once and 3 times a week. I was in downtown Indy the last night and running on back to back nights for the first time in too long. Monday night I felt pretty good, I should I had plenty of rest since the previous run. But Last night was a bit of a slog. I was talking myself into taking a shorter route but as I neared the entrance to the canal, which is right next to the JW Marriot, I noticed the party tents set up off to my left and a promo spotlight thing on the front of the hotel which all reminded me of the Monumental being this coming weekend.

Of course all that made me think of you guys and fondly remember the days when I was an honorary BMF. Rather than cut the run short in some manner, I just slogged along at a little slower pace and completed the 5 miles I set out to do. Oh for the days when I was an actual runner for some period of time. Not sure those days will ever return but who knows. For now, I figured I'd just stop in and say hey. so...

:hey:
 
Unfortunately, it looks like this road to recovery may be long. I ended up taking almost 3 weeks off. Yesterday I went for a 30 minute single track jog with limited elevation and my knee finished worse than it started. Now, I would not say that it felt 'bad.' When I started there was minimal discomfort. When I finished there was also minimal discomfort. It's just that minimal discomfort was a little noisier than when I started.

For now, I'm not going to run back-to-back days, and won't force runs beyond 30 minutes at a time. If I feel good, maybe go 45 and see how I feel the next day, but as I shared in October, I'm not considering anything over 45-60 minutes indefinitely. I'll sustain strength work on off running days, hit the incline treadmill on bad weather cardio days, and as I mentioned before, plan to start in the pool this winter. If anyone has 'pool workout' recommendations, please share. To say I'm a fish out of water would be a vast under statement. I don't know where to begin, but I would like to start integrating in December when the gym will have less humans.

I was hoping to create a racing goal with this year-end report, but obviously that's now off the table. My goal is to be healthy enough to start thinking about one by February then if I get through April healthy, I'll look for something to do in May / June.
 
Marshall University Marathon (MUM)

Lap
Time
1
7:09
2
7:10
3
7:12
4
7:11
5
7:10
6
7:13
7
7:10
8
7:12
9
7:15
10
7:14
11
7:12
12
7:13
13
7:12
14
7:12
15
7:14
16
7:13
17
7:13
18
7:14
19
7:27
20
7:26
21
7:36
22
7:58
23
8:14
24
8:07
25
8:26
26
8:34
0.29
8:08


I was originally signed up for the Columbus Marathon, but with the rain, wind, and an early announcement of delayed corrals, I made the call to skip it. Monumental in 2022 had similar weather (with less actual rain) and I just didn’t want to repeat that experience. I also didn’t want to waste my whole training cycle, so I searched for something close enough that I could drive to and found MUM.

My build into this race was a little messy. I didn’t race anything in the spring and felt like I needed a mental break. Some of my early GMP runs actually went well, but once I was in the actual marathon cycle, GMP runs felt tougher than expected. Maybe it was the hotter weather. Maybe it was because I was stacking more work around them. Either way, it didn’t feel "good". That all caught up to me and my body forced a pullback week. From there, I had 2 weeks before tapering for Columbus...then after Columbus was scrapped, I added another hard week and then another short taper. Not ideal.

We drove down to West Virginia the day before the race. I expected this race to be more scenic since it was fall, a college town, and by the river. In my head I had pictured something different. The course has some campus sections and finishes in the stadium, but a lot of the route is industrial roads and business areas. Not bad, just not as scenic as I expected.

Race morning was wet. The forecast all week bounced between 15% chance of rain and 40%, and unfortunately, the rain did show up. Thankfully not a downpour, but wet enough that my shoes were soaked early, and stayed soaked throughout. I also didn’t know the course, and it wasn’t fully closed to traffic, so I was constantly a little mentally “alert” just to make sure I wasn’t missing a turn. The first loop had enough runners around to feel like a bigger race. I knew my HR was running a bit higher than I wanted, but I felt ok and didn’t want to talk myself out of the original goal pace (~7:12 for a 3:10 finish).

There’s about a mile of packed stone in this race that I did not love. It caused small slips, uneven spots, and you can’t plant off it the same way.

The half marathoners split off to finish, and it became clear how few people were doing the full at anywhere near my time. The second loop was lonely. There were some shared out-and-back stretches where you could see other runners and exchange encouragement, and the volunteers were great, but most of this was just me grinding in silence with wet feet.

I knew as early as mile 10 that this was going to be hard to close well. I really didn’t want to walk as I’ve been there before and hated how that feels physically and mentally. Around mile 19 there’s a steep hill and after that my pace slipped. As soon as I realized 3:10 was not going to happen, I thought if I could slow down 10-15 seconds per mile, I could still PR...right at that point the women's 3rd place finisher passed me, and I tried to stay with her for the rest of the race. I managed to hang on for 4 miles, but eventually she had more left in the tank than I did and pulled away. At that point I just wanted to keep the legs moving and not walk.

I didn’t hit my goal (3:10) and I didn’t PR (3:11:55) - but this was actually my 2nd fastest marathon ever: 3:15:59.
 
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A few final thoughts:

  • They hand marathoners a flower around mile 25 to place at the Memorial Fountain in remembrance of those who died in the 1970 plane crash that We Are Marshall is based on.
  • You finish in the stadium and can take a football to run across the finish mat in the end zone.
  • The race was well organized, and while it is not a huge event, the pockets of support in Huntington were genuinely strong.
  • My wife and daughters were able to see me a couple of times on the loop and were there at the finish line, which meant a lot to me.
  • I learned more about what my body can and cannot handle. I need to stay in the 150s HR-wise in the first half of a marathon; anything above that drains me and I cannot maintain it the whole way.
  • I think some of these “failures” to hit goals aren’t truly failures...I intentionally push to see what is possible, and 3 of my 4 best races came from going after times that stretched past what I had actually trained for.
  • I’m proud that I recognized when to back off. I probably could have forced the pace to around mile 23, but then I would have completely fallen apart. I made the right call, adjusted, and pushed through. I am now more equipped for the next one because this didn’t go perfectly.
 
Consider me a sort of last minute addition to the racers this weekend. Last night I signed up for a local “rundown” event this afternoon. There’s a 1.6 mile cyclocross course in a grass field. You have 20 minutes to run a lap. Then 19:40 to run the next lap, 19:20 after that, etc. until there’s one person left.

No idea what to expect. Course has a bunch of serpentines and switchbacks so it’ll be super slow. Seems like there are usually only a couple dozen people or so that do this. I’m going to head over with water and some snacks to consume at the end of laps and just see what happens.
So I showed up at this and it was a pretty cool experience. The wife also trailed along which was much appreciated. About 20 people showed up, most of whom looked intimidatingly fit. The wife commented how everyone's legs were more muscular than mine. I wanted to do at least 10 laps (16 miles) and figured after that I'd just see how long I could hang on.

Course was indeed really slow. In addition to all of the turns, there was a section of whoops, a couple of serpentines that went alongside of a hill, and a couple of boards to jump. Also while the wind dried out most of the course, a lot of the turns were still mud on the inside from the rainy bike race Thursday night, so your choice was to carefully walk while hugging the inside, swing wide around the mud, or try to run the inside without slipping. Course also was largely downhill first half and uphill second half, which meant you really didn't want to fall behind pace early in the lap because it would be hard to make up. They actually changed the format so instead of 20:00, 19:40, 19:20, etc. per lap it was 20:00, 19:30, 19:00, etc., so things were going to come to a head sooner.

I would have liked to have 1:30 or so left over each lap, to give myself time to walk over to the board and check my box for a completed lap, sit down and get some water and utilize my snack pile. I tended to err on the side of too much time left, which was maybe a mistake later on. A couple of guys were really putting in fast laps, but they didn't end up having the fitness to keep that up and ended up flaming out near the end.

First laps were uneventful other than some blisters developing and getting pretty painful laps 4 and 5. I switched out to a different pair of shoes for laps 6 and 7 which made them worse, so I tried a third pair lap 8 and those worked to keep them annoying but manageable. We started losing people around this time, and when lap 10 ended only 9 of us made the cutoff, one poor guy missing by 2 seconds.

On lap 11 we were now one pack, albeit a bit spread out. I was in the back and it was clear going up hills or out of turns I had no more pop in my legs, but I was still feeling decent all things considered. When I finished I told my wife I definitely had one more in me, maybe two. Lap 12 went fine, but I finished without much time to spare and by the time I marked the board and fished out my headlamp (which I should I have had the lap before), I had to start 15 seconds late so I took off hard, thinking I had maybe a 20% chance of hitting the time. I was trying desperately to bank a bit of time on the downhill portion but between the darkness and the mud and the shot legs I felt like I was running like a drunken man, slipping around corners and such. I checked my watch around halfway and I was still 5 seconds or so behind pace with uphill switchbacks to go and knew I was cooked. I didn’t want to be a baby, though, so while I took my foot off the gas I forced myself to keep at least running. I ended up finishing 1:24 past the clock. Another dude timed out maybe 20 seconds ahead of me, so only 5 took off on lap 14. As it turned out only 1 made the cutoff on lap 14, and him only by 10 seconds, so that was it.

With better pacing in laps 7-9 I’m almost certain I could have survived lap 13. Lap 14 would have been a stretch, though. Still it’s a really fun idea and I’ll probably give it another go next year. I wish it was a little better organized, as there was no official clock and looking at my lap times I’m not sure time was kept super precisely, but hey for a low frills low key local race it’s fine. There are worse ways to log 20.8 miles. Only problem is I’m not sure when I’ll be ready for speedwork to try to sharpen for the Turkey Trot. Still, I don't feel too bad today and should be up for some lawn mowing and leaf raking.

Lap 1 - 15:31, 3:45 to rest
Lap 2 - 16:17, 3:11 to rest
Lap 3 - 16:39, 2:18 to rest
Lap 4 – 16:13, 2:21 to rest
Lap 5 – 16:16, 1:41 to rest
Lap 6 - 16:13, 0:46 to rest
Lap 7 – 15:13, 2:16 to rest
Lap 8 – 14:38, 1:53 to rest
Lap 9 – 14:07 , 1:50 to rest
Lap 10 – 14:45, 0:46 to rest
Lap 11 – 13:57, 1:02 to rest
Lap 12 – 14:07, 0:24 to rest
Lap 13 – 15:24, timed out

That sounds like a lot of fun.. and you did a hell of a job without any notice for the event...total stud! I'm always intrigued by these types of races. I may need to look around for something less than "typical".
 

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