Rank your top 5 "Rock" albums from the past 20 years (released in 2003 or later) (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

Feel like AI needs to get involved here. In no universe would I consider Arcade Fire more rock than The Shins. Both bands are fronted by wispy hipsters. Didn't Arcade Fire require concert goers to dress in period piece costumes?

No idea but there sound is rather arena leaning at times. Is there a song that rocks half as hard as Power Out?

 

[opensourcebeer]

I've never had much use for genres when it comes to music.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I've never had much use for genres when it comes to music.

Winner!! Genre labeling is so awful when you think about it, as are the gatekeepers of genres. Good music is good music.

 

[Ilov80s]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

I think we all agree, was more a question of The Shins.

 

[Ilov80s]

I've never had much use for genres when it comes to music.

Winner!! Genre labeling is so awful when you think about it, as are the gatekeepers of genres. Good music is good music.

Yeah for sure, but this is for fun. Nobody is saying don't listen to Jay-Z because he's not rock. Just a thing to debate and have some fun with.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

I think we all agree, was more a question of The Shins.

I don't remember much about The Shins (checked them out many years ago, but they fell off my radar pretty quickly), but I think some (the general "some") have it in their heads that if it doesn't rock like AC/DC or Zeppelin, then it ain't rock. Rock has clearly taken a hit in the mainstream thanks to the 90s, but there is still a lot of rock music out there. It's just not out front and center anymore.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I've never had much use for genres when it comes to music.

Winner!! Genre labeling is so awful when you think about it, as are the gatekeepers of genres. Good music is good music.

Yeah for sure, but this is for fun. Nobody is saying don't listen to Jay-Z because he's not rock. Just a thing to debate and have some fun with.

Oh yeah, I get it.

 

[Mister CIA]

Y'all are in for a treat.

Silver Jews: Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea

 

[Ilov80s]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

I think we all agree, was more a question of The Shins.

I don't remember much about The Shins (checked them out many years ago, but they fell off my radar pretty quickly), but I think some (the general "some") have it in their heads that if it doesn't rock like AC/DC or Zeppelin, then it ain't rock. Rock has clearly taken a hit in the mainstream thanks to the 90s, but there is still a lot of rock music out there. It's just not out front and center anymore.

For sure and I might be too caught up in the context for this thread itself. Rock posted a thread about what's the best pure rock album of the last 20 years. He clearly excluded anything folk rock, indie rock, etc. and said guitar heavy rock. Trip posted this as a kind of spinoff but since he didn't reference that exactly, I should probably let that original context go.

 

[PIK95]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

Feel like AI needs to get involved here. In no universe would I consider Arcade Fire more rock than The Shins. Both bands are fronted by wispy hipsters. Didn't Arcade Fire require concert goers to dress in period piece costumes?

I think you are thinking of Jack White.

 

[General Malaise]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

I know, I am a big fan but they don't come front of mind when I think of "Rock".

The Shins: "Turn a Square vs.
Arcade Fire: "Wasted Hours"

What's more ROCK?

 

[General Malaise]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

Reflektor is where I fell off the train with the band. Not sure if I didn't care for the new direction or I was just tired of the band itself.

Well, and the lead singer is a #Me Too creep. Allegedly.

 

[PIK95]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

I think we all agree, was more a question of The Shins.

I don't remember much about The Shins (checked them out many years ago, but they fell off my radar pretty quickly), but I think some (the general "some") have it in their heads that if it doesn't rock like AC/DC or Zeppelin, then it ain't rock. Rock has clearly taken a hit in the mainstream thanks to the 90s, but there is still a lot of rock music out there. It's just not out front and center anymore.

For sure and I might be too caught up in the context for this thread itself. Rock posted a thread about what's the best pure rock album of the last 20 years. He clearly excluded anything folk rock, indie rock, etc. and said guitar heavy rock. Trip posted this as a kind of spinoff but since he didn't reference that exactly, I should probably let that original context go.

I have A.D.D. and missed all that. I just thought to list the best 5 records of that time. Oops.

 

[Mister CIA]

Rock

as in, gem

 

[General Malaise]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

Feel like AI needs to get involved here. In no universe would I consider Arcade Fire more rock than The Shins. Both bands are fronted by wispy hipsters. Didn't Arcade Fire require concert goers to dress in period piece costumes?

I think you are thinking of Jack White.

Jack White - Blunderbus

There is one.

 

[PIK95]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

I know, I am a big fan but they don't come front of mind when I think of "Rock".

The Shins: "Turn a Square vs.
Arcade Fire: "Wasted Hours"

What's more ROCK?

Wasted hours is the least rocking song on that Suburbs record. Ready to Start, Rococo, Half Life's, Month of May, and We Used to Wait are super rockin off the top of my head.

Wasted Hours may be the least rocking song on the first THREE Arcade Fires. Nice pull.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

Reflektor is where I fell off the train with the band. Not sure if I didn't care for the new direction or I was just tired of the band itself.

Well, and the lead singer is a #Me Too creep. Allegedly.

And he looks like a saint compared to the average 70s male rock star. Crazy, ain't it?

 

[landrys hat]

King Gizzard - Nonagon Infinity
Thee Oh Sees - Floating Coffin
Secret Machines - Now Here Is Nowhere
J Roddy Walston & the Business - J Roddy Walston & the Business
Titus Andronicus - The Monitor

 

[Ilov80s]

My 5 favorite, "is it rock" albums of the last 20 years (off the top of my head so I am certainly missing several albums)

• Local Natives- Hummingbird (2013)
• Vampire Weekend- Modern Vampires of the City (2013)
• The War on Drugs- Lost in the Dream (2014)
• Sturgill Simpson- Metamodern Sounds in Country Music (2014)
• Big Thief- UFOF (2019)

 

[Ilov80s]

King Gizzard - Nonagon Infinity
Thee Oh Sees - Floating Coffin
Secret Machines - Now Here Is Nowhere
J Roddy Walston & the Business - J Roddy Walston & the Business
Titus Andronicus - The Monitor

Titus was a near miss for, great f'n album. Now that is pure rock (and some history)

 

[General Malaise]

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

 

[opensourcebeer]

My 5 favorite, "is it rock" albums of the last 20 years (off the top of my head so I am certainly missing several albums)

• Local Natives- Hummingbird (2013)
• Vampire Weekend- Modern Vampires of the City (2013)
• The War on Drugs- Lost in the Dream (2014)
• Sturgill Simpson- Metamodern Sounds in Country Music (2014)
• Big Thief- UFOF (2019)

Good to see Sturgill with a couple albums getting mentioned.

 

[Ilov80s]

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

and that is also very much why I lost interest in them.

 

[General Malaise]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

Make sure Winn approves of your outfit first. Nothing says ROCK like a dress code.

 

[General Malaise]

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

and that is also very much why I lost interest in them.

It's where I left them too. What a pompous doosh.

 

[General Malaise]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

Reflektor is where I fell off the train with the band. Not sure if I didn't care for the new direction or I was just tired of the band itself.

Well, and the lead singer is a #Me Too creep. Allegedly.

And he looks like a saint compared to the average 70s male rock star. Crazy, ain't it?

Your argument for Winn being gross is that the guys in the 70s were grooser?

 

[Ilov80s]

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

and that is also very much why I lost interest in them.

It's where I left them too. What a pompous doosh.

Yeah the band and the general following around them became too much. Pompous is exactly the right word.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

Make sure Winn approves of your outfit first. Nothing says ROCK like a dress code.

Being a pretentious fop doesn't exclude one from being a rock star.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

Reflektor is where I fell off the train with the band. Not sure if I didn't care for the new direction or I was just tired of the band itself.

Well, and the lead singer is a #Me Too creep. Allegedly.

And he looks like a saint compared to the average 70s male rock star. Crazy, ain't it?

Your argument for Winn being gross is that the guys in the 70s were grooser?

I am not going to litigate the accusations that have been thrown at Butler, but I am going to go out on a limb and say he isn't the first rock star in his 30s or 40s to use his rock star cred to sleep with 19-year olds. Guys with money do it all the time. Leo D never dates anyone over 25. Al Pacino just had a baby with someone young enough to be his granddaughter. It's what men with power and money do.

Edit: I am not saying it it right or justifying it, just pointing out the reality.

 

[PIK95]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

Make sure Winn approves of your outfit first. Nothing says ROCK like a dress code.

Win.

 

[Mister CIA]

King Gizzard - Nonagon Infinity
Thee Oh Sees - Floating Coffin
Secret Machines - Now Here Is Nowhere
J Roddy Walston & the Business - J Roddy Walston & the Business
Titus Andronicus - The Monitor

Still working this band into my repatoire. They are something.

@rockaction

 

[PIK95]

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

I was at a Reflektors show in a great costume fwiw. Most people had fun with it. Just sayin.

 

[PIK95]

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

and that is also very much why I lost interest in them.

It's where I left them too. What a pompous doosh.

Yeah the band and the general following around them became too much. Pompous is exactly the right word.

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

and that is also very much why I lost interest in them.

It's where I left them too. What a pompous doosh.

Yeah the band and the general following around them became too much. Pompous is exactly the right word.

That's ridiculous actually. As someone who went to a bunch of AF shows over the years I can say the fans are mostly super geeks. The exact opposite of pompous. If you were at the U2/AF show you would have seen the biggest pompous DB fans in existence. I'm talking to you U2 fan.

 

[Ilov80s]

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

and that is also very much why I lost interest in them.

It's where I left them too. What a pompous doosh.

Yeah the band and the general following around them became too much. Pompous is exactly the right word.

Let's be honest: after a string of intimate shows billed as "fake art band" The Reflektors, we all saw an Arcade Fire arena tour coming. What we didn't, though, is that they would continue to reinforce its dress code of "formal attire or costume". Imagine that: a stadium full of people who look like they fell into that new David Bowie Louis Vuitton advert.

Amazing.

As someone who saw The Reflektors at the Roundhouse last week, however, I can say with a heavy heart that gig-goers do not do fancy dress well. Fans had taken to Twitter to express their outrage at having to wear something other than Converse and skinny jeans and, in retaliation, turned up in painfully terrible attempts at costumes. It led the Fire's Win Butler to tell the audience that he wasn't going to apologise for (loosely) enforcing such a dress code.

So if you want to impress Arcade Fire in the coming year, you'd better try harder. Here's our guide to how to do it best.

and that is also very much why I lost interest in them.

It's where I left them too. What a pompous doosh.

Yeah the band and the general following around them became too much. Pompous is exactly the right word.

That's ridiculous actually. As someone who went to a bunch of AF shows over the years I can say the fans are mostly super geeks. The exact opposite of pompous. If you were at the U2/AF show you would have seen the biggest pompous DB fans in existence. I'm talking to you U2 fan.

Nerds and geeks can be pompous. I can’t really comment, haven’t been to a show. It’s just the vibe the band gives off and a very small set of internet nuts.

 

[opensourcebeer]

To avoid repeating a lot great stuff, I'm going for stuff not mentioned yet that I liked.

Rome - Album by Danger Mouse | Spotify

Danger Mouse · album · 2011 · 15 songs

open.spotify.com

El Ten Eleven - Album by El Ten Eleven | Spotify

El Ten Eleven · album · 2005 · 9 songs

open.spotify.com

S/T - Album by This Will Destroy You | Spotify

This Will Destroy You · album · 2007 · 7 songs

open.spotify.com

Reconstruction Site - Album by The Weakerthans | Spotify

The Weakerthans · album · 2003 · 14 songs

open.spotify.com

The Meadowlands - Album by The Wrens | Spotify

The Wrens · album · 2003 · 13 songs

open.spotify.com

Edit: drunk

 

[General Malaise]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

Feel like AI needs to get involved here. In no universe would I consider Arcade Fire more rock than The Shins. Both bands are fronted by wispy hipsters. Didn't Arcade Fire require concert goers to dress in period piece costumes?

No idea but there sound is rather arena leaning at times. Is there a song that rocks half as hard as Power Out?

If Power Out is your baseline for ROCK I don't think we will ever agree on a definition. Power Out sounds like a marketing song for Orange Theory Fitness.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Do The Shins count as rock?

They were #6 on my 2003 list. Not sure if they would pass muster as rock though.

Emo? Same genre as Deathcab, right? Just trying to see the bucket I need to pull from.

Never thought of them as emo. Indie would be the bucket I tossed both of them in

Need a @rockarbiter ruling to be sure.

Wasn’t “indie” originally “indie rock”?

 

[rockaction]

Let's just do away with genres and make the whole exercise and what it is derivative of pointless, up to and including arguing whether rock is dead.

Sounds like the anti-genre police came to town and disrupted any sort of categorization based in music and the logical extension of music theory.

I personally (and this is Trip's thread) purposefully used "rock AND roll" in the original context to exclude baroque pop and metal that doesn't use the pentatonic scale. That was the purpose and limitation of the discussion. It was there for a reason. Chew on that, biatches! I had already thought of great, great albums that aren't "rock and roll" in any sense of the word.

The Beach Boys are infrequently rock and roll. Same with a band like Dethklok, who I am listening to now. Not rock and roll. Just baroque pop and rock.

Jay-Z isn't "rock," nor is he especially "rock and roll" regardless of how racist you think it is or how much you stamp your feet about it or how much your enlightened self doesn't need categories or genres.

Not rock and roll. Pretty ****ing easy, and anyone who argues to the contrary is being uber contentious.

 

[rockaction]

And this is TripitUp's thread, so he can do whatever he wants, but I'm telling you my intention was to have a "rock and roll" discussion, not whether your own preference about what is pop and rock and what isn't came into play. I simply ignore **** as obvious as that as troublemaking and a distraction.

Not that those things aren't good, either. I almost welcome them. But let's get serious for a moment about what is being contentious and what is trying to exist within the confines of the discussion.

Jay-Z and Run-DMC aren't rock, and they'd probably be slightly offended if you put them in the rock rubric of things. (Like that play on words, by the way? Rubric/Rick Rubin? Clever of me, huh?)

 

[rockaction]

Before people take that personally, I should stress that is my official position. It's two steps from caring in the actual sense of things if one must know.

Standards! We must have...oh **** it, my Daft Punk shirts just came. Wonder what the resale on these will be? Dethklok is on. Murmaider murmaider murmaider.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

Feel like AI needs to get involved here. In no universe would I consider Arcade Fire more rock than The Shins. Both bands are fronted by wispy hipsters. Didn't Arcade Fire require concert goers to dress in period piece costumes?

No idea but there sound is rather arena leaning at times. Is there a song that rocks half as hard as Power Out?

If Power Out is your baseline for ROCK I don't think we will ever agree on a definition. Power Out sounds like a marketing song for Orange Theory Fitness.

Obviously you just don't like Arcade Fire. Which is fine.

 

[General Malaise]

Having seen Arcade Fire live, you have to have a really narrow definition of what rock is to not think they are a rock band. It is more than obvious.

Make sure Winn approves of your outfit first. Nothing says ROCK like a dress code.

Win.

PLEASE DO NOT WEAR shorts, large logos, flip flops, tank tops, crop tops, baseball hats, solid white or red clothing. We reserve the right to deny entry to anyone dressed inappropriately.

Win

 

[General Malaise]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

Feel like AI needs to get involved here. In no universe would I consider Arcade Fire more rock than The Shins. Both bands are fronted by wispy hipsters. Didn't Arcade Fire require concert goers to dress in period piece costumes?

No idea but there sound is rather arena leaning at times. Is there a song that rocks half as hard as Power Out?

If Power Out is your baseline for ROCK I don't think we will ever agree on a definition. Power Out sounds like a marketing song for Orange Theory Fitness.

Obviously you just don't like Arcade Fire. Which is fine.

Wrong. I like their music fine. I think Win is a 5 star dooooosch mago, but I like their music. I just don't think they are ROCK.

 

[rockaction]

Does Win Butler seriously do this or is somebody pulling my leg with hyperbole here?

 

[rockaction]

It sounds like all those nightclubs I refused to go to in my twenties because they had a dress code.

Note to clubs: You didn't miss me, but I sure as **** didn't miss you.

 

[General Malaise]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

Reflektor is where I fell off the train with the band. Not sure if I didn't care for the new direction or I was just tired of the band itself.

Well, and the lead singer is a #Me Too creep. Allegedly.

And he looks like a saint compared to the average 70s male rock star. Crazy, ain't it?

Your argument for Winn being gross is that the guys in the 70s were grooser?

I am not going to litigate the accusations that have been thrown at Butler, but I am going to go out on a limb and say he isn't the first rock star in his 30s or 40s to use his rock star cred to sleep with 19-year olds. Guys with money do it all the time. Leo D never dates anyone over 25. Al Pacino just had a baby with someone young enough to be his granddaughter. It's what men with power and money do.

Edit: I am not saying it it right or justifying it, just pointing out the reality.

Dude: yuck

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

Feel like AI needs to get involved here. In no universe would I consider Arcade Fire more rock than The Shins. Both bands are fronted by wispy hipsters. Didn't Arcade Fire require concert goers to dress in period piece costumes?

No idea but there sound is rather arena leaning at times. Is there a song that rocks half as hard as Power Out?

If Power Out is your baseline for ROCK I don't think we will ever agree on a definition. Power Out sounds like a marketing song for Orange Theory Fitness.

Obviously you just don't like Arcade Fire. Which is fine.

Wrong. I like their music fine. I think Win is a 5 star dooooosch mago, but I like their music. I just don't think they are ROCK.

They aren't Chuck Berry, Iggy Pop, Pearl Jam quintessential straightforward rock and roll . They certainly have elements of pop, baroque, etc as well. but it's pretty out there to say Arcade Fire aren't a rock band playing mostly rock music. But no point in arguing over this.

 

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I don't see how Arcade Fire is ROCK and The Shins are NOT rock.

Arcade Fire is more bombastic and at least from my memory has more grooving, jamming, etc. Louder? I can't explain but AF feels more rock to me than The Shins

The first three Arcade Fire records are very rockin. Reflektor is a lil different.

Reflektor is basically an attempt to recreate Remain in Light. (Sometimes it succeeds, sometimes it doesn't.) But it's not a conventional "rock" record for the same reason Remain in Light isn't.

 

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And this is TripitUp's thread, so he can do whatever he wants

I think he left after I started making Elvis Costello jokes.