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Ravens get Boldin (1 Viewer)
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azgroover
Footballguy
Thanks for the memories in the desert, Q. Hope he gets that payday he deserves.
Too bad the $ situation just didn't make any sense for the Cards. Hopefully, when he's all done, he can do one of those ceremonial retirements as a Cardinal. Guy is still loved in PHX. Baltimore just got themselves one hell of a warrior and a guy the team rallies around.
Too bad the $ situation just didn't make any sense for the Cards. Hopefully, when he's all done, he can do one of those ceremonial retirements as a Cardinal. Guy is still loved in PHX. Baltimore just got themselves one hell of a warrior and a guy the team rallies around.
road warrior
Footballguy
Heard (per Shefter) Boldin agrees to a new four-year, $28 million contract with the Ravens.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Agreed to a 4 year $28 million dollar extension if I heard correctly on sportcenter
thehornet
Footballguy
+1. After I read the terms of the trade, I thought Rotoworld mistaked the Ravens for NE.
efactor
Footballguy
I agree. At that price, I was hoping that SF would make a move for him. I love watching Boldin play and he could have kept the same uniform color...........
I can't believe nobody would beat that offer for one of the best WRs in the league.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Is this a good thing for him in the fantasy world?
It's better than getting passes from Leinart IMO.
It's better than getting passes from Leinart IMO.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
BB failed.
I think so.Instead of being a #2 in Arizona with an iffy QB situation, he becomes an unquestioned #1 in Baltimore with a solid QB situation. And with that line and running game, he should do well. Flacco gets a big bump from this as well.
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road warrior
Footballguy
Being a Boldin owner, I was hoping he'd go to the Pats. But being the #1 in Baltimore can't be bad. So, what of Derrick Mason?
kutta
Footballguy
My favorite player gone. I will still wear his jersey with pride to every home game. I love Q and love the way he played. Lots of awesome memories, and it's very sad to see him go.
Warner, Boldin, Dansby, and Rolle all gone. Lots of leadership is missing. My hopes for this next year are pretty darn low. Hopefully we can keep some of the good things going and not completely go back into the tank.
Warner, Boldin, Dansby, and Rolle all gone. Lots of leadership is missing. My hopes for this next year are pretty darn low. Hopefully we can keep some of the good things going and not completely go back into the tank.
I think all Flacco owners are happy with this move. However, the excuses are over for Flacco after 2010. It will be his 3rd season and he should have a pretty good WR corps. Its either Big Ben or Trent Edwards for Flacco, we should know by this time next year.
I'm not so sure short term with mason still around. We may be looking at mason like numbers for Q and mason.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
It sounds like he's going elsewhere as a FA. That's why I'm reluctant to give a big boost to Flacco right now.
kutta
Footballguy
I'm really pretty bummed right now. I knew the chances were slim, but I was holding out hope that they could get something worked out.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Just another example of how Dallas overpaid for a guy like Roy Williams.
I don't love the fit in terms of fantasy for Boldin. I don't think they he ever gets the kind of numbers he was getting with Arizona and Kurt Warner, I don't care if he's the unquestioned No. 1 in Baltimore. I'd bump Flacco slightly but not enough to be an every week starter on a fantasy team.
Baltimore is a better football team because of this trade.
I don't love the fit in terms of fantasy for Boldin. I don't think they he ever gets the kind of numbers he was getting with Arizona and Kurt Warner, I don't care if he's the unquestioned No. 1 in Baltimore. I'd bump Flacco slightly but not enough to be an every week starter on a fantasy team.
Baltimore is a better football team because of this trade.
azgroover
Footballguy
All Denny Green guys (eta Q is actually a McGinnis guy, wow). I'm looking at this as the continuation of Whiz molding the team into some sort of grand plan. Hopefully, it's a good thing in the big picture.Just got my ticket renewal notice in the mail this week. I'm considering moving into the cheap seats for this season just to keep my place in line and see how this thing shakes out. I have a feeling the home sellout streak is going to end this year.
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Instead of sharing catches with Fitz, it'll be Mason. Yeah, it's definitely a good thing for him in the fantasy world. Especially in the red zone.
kutta
Footballguy
And the Cardinals are considerably worse.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Cards could be awful this year. Dont' forget about Berry retiring.
kutta
Footballguy
That's interesting. I was thinking of taking the opposite approach and hoped to improve my location this year. I figure there will be a lot of people not renewing, and that opens up better seats. I'd love to be in the ring of honor. We are in row 11 upper deck at about the 30 right now.And I agree that the sellout streak will end this year. We have a pretty tough schedule, and if we don't get a good start it's going to be a long, quiet season.
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Breaston and Doucet will do just fine.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Exactly where are you hearing this?Mason's going to stay in Baltimore and be the #2, which is what the Ravens wanted. Mason's not a WR1 in the NFL right now, he's a possession guy.Mark Clayton and Stallworth are now WR3/WR4 at best.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
With the loss of Kurt Warner and Boldin together, it'll be hard to exactly pinpoint the effect of losing just Boldin will have but there's no question that this team is not as good as the team that made the playoffs just a few months ago.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
I have no doubt they all respect his talent, and appreciate what a warrior he is. The reality is he's missed a lot of games in his career. He hasn't played a full slate of games since 2006. Now add to that the fact that he is turning 30 this year. Players with sketchy injury histories in their 20s generally don't turn that around in their 30s.
Rockchild
Footballguy
4 years and $28 million seems like a pretty good deal for a WR like Boldin. I thought he was looking for Fitz type money($30 mil guaranteed)? I know the Cards are notoriously cheap but with an uncapped year, a big salary in the first year and a smaller signing bonus couldn't they have fit that into the budget? Or did Boldin just want out?
Sinrman
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
Your're really swapping Doucet for Boldin. Not a great swap in my book.I sure hope Doucet steps up and plays well though. That would be very cool because he is a really great, humble guy.
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Nothing is gauranteed, especially with how physical he is. He's been known to miss games and when you do that, to say 73/1028/7 is gauranteed isn't true.If you told me he's definately playing 16 games next season, I'd say he'd hit those numbers but I can't gaurantee he or anyone else is playng every game.
CalBear
Footballguy
Do we really need to put a "barring injury" caveat on every stat projection? He played in the same number of games as Mason in 2009.
Dunno if it will be Mason now this has happened. No guarantee he's coming back and he was asking for a 2-year deal.Ravens are a much more 'old skool' team with running game/defense than the cards as well. Less opportunities there
DenverBroncos
Footballguy
Eh, this doesn't get me too excited as a Boldin owner. He will never produce the type of numbers he did in AZ. With Baltimore still running plenty, Ray Rice getting a ton of catches and assuming Mason stays he'll catch another 60-80 balls. As such, Boldin's ceiling isn't that high, but it is better than staying in AZ with Leinart as the QB.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The Miami Dolphins are absolute idiots for not putting together a deal for Boldin. I don't believe Miami is serious about winning I really don't. Baltimore had some pieces in their passing attack but not Miami.
Props to the Ravens, well run orginization that never ceases to get better. Great move for the now and future, Joe Flacco just got a great weapon to use on offense, love the move for Baltimore, hate it as Miami just falls further and further behind.
Props to the Ravens, well run orginization that never ceases to get better. Great move for the now and future, Joe Flacco just got a great weapon to use on offense, love the move for Baltimore, hate it as Miami just falls further and further behind.
He hasn't played 16 games in 4 years.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Also want to add that Boldin can put in 5 really good years and make a case for a future HoF bid...I know its early but I see him easily grabbing 80 balls a year here and there already is a ground game in place. Boldin/Flacco is going to destroy teams
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Doucet certainly looked the part when he got playing time near the end of the year but it's more than just Boldin for Doucet. It's also some draft picks. I don't think losing Boldin has much impact on the Cardinals but it's a huge impact on the Ravens. It's a steal for them.
CalBear
Footballguy
Mason didn't play 16 games in 2009, either.
I think Mason is as good as gone. Boldin is a great WR but he's not a downfield threat. When he makes big plays it's usually because of his YAC. It's why teams were not bidding crazy on him because he's not the typical stretch the defense type player. Lining him up with Mason is lining up two possession WR's.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
This is all I'm saying but overall I like the trade for Baltimore. If you told me Boldin is gauranteed to play 16 games healthy, I'd say he's easily a top 10 guy. I don't like the "barring injury" thing on every stat projection either so I understand that but sometimes everyone goes gaga over a big move and it doesn't seem to work out the way everyone thought. I think many thought TO who was a great player everywhere he went would do better than he did last year would do better than he did. Flacco still has something to prove in terms of being able to produce an elite fantasy WR on a team that still will be run heavy and defense orientated.With all that said, football wise I can't see how this doesn't make Baltimore a better team.
would the Cards have preferred a 3rd and 4th over a 2nd? can't believe a team wouldn't give up a 2nd for this guy. I actually thought a 2nd and 4th would be the minimum to get something done.
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Drop Mason and bring in TO, he'll stretch the field.LOL what a difference that would be from last year bringing in Boldin and TO.
FFCardsFan
Footballguy
if hes in the correct situation, hes a stud, but no doubt about it, hes a 29-30 year old, injury prone wr. im interested to see how he fits in. he doesnt have the mega stud wr on the other side to take attention away rom him and he doesnt have a hall of famer throwin him the ball.
we'll see. i like the fit though. he definitely fits the mold of the ravens.
we'll see. i like the fit though. he definitely fits the mold of the ravens.
CalBear
Footballguy
His first season in the league, he had Jeff Blake and Josh McCown throwing him the ball, and the #2 WR was Bryant Johnson (who has yet to reach 750 yards in a season). Boldin put up 101/1377/8. There is no question that he is a proven WR; he doesn't need Fitz or a good QB to be productive.And what's all this talk about him being gasp 29 years old? Derrick Mason was 35 this year. 7 of the top 20 WRs were over 30.
