Ray Rice (1 Viewer)

[MCguidance]

Anyone watching this guy? THink he will be playing the NFL next year. Seems to very good and getting stronger as the game wears on.

 

[maxwell1295]

Agreed....if he opts to come out early.

 

[Paddy O'Seanessy]

...even if he doesn't

 

[MCguidance]

Cant see why he wouldnt. Sure fire first rounder, no?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

5-9 205 and runs prolly a 4.55.

I like him however, just not as the only guy, perhaps in a committee.

 

[AllVolUT]

Impressive back. Reminds me of a Marion Barber type.

 

[CA_7]

No doubt. Ray is the real deal.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

 

[dparker713]

He lacks speed at the next level. He's got great vision, power and patience, but he's not a first rounder in my book. Right now its McFadden then everyone else really. Im sure he'll get drafted and get a chance, but I just dont see him as a difference maker at the next level.

 

[weasel3515]

I think he'll be solid but not spectacular at the next level. Possibly first round in the right situation.

 

[Native]

Who do you guys like better - Rice or Mike Hart? Very similar players....

 

[EBF]

He lacks speed at the next level. He's got great vision, power and patience, but he's not a first rounder in my book.

I agree with this. Marginal combine numbers will push him into the 2nd-3rd round range, but he has a chance to develop into a Gore type.

 

[Righetti]

if Schiano doesn't run him into the ground before the draft

 

[Native]

if Schiano doesn't run him into the ground before the draft

No kidding. They have West Virginia at home next week in a game that could determine the Big East title and a BCS bid. No chance hes gettting a lighter workload.

 

[Sleeper 43]

Ray Rice with 10-15 lb of pre-draft muscle puts him in the short and compact MJD category which I find ideal for today's NFL RB

Since the discussion is about playing Sundays...

McFadden reminds me of Norwood in a couple ways. Small hips , tall and lanky. I question whether he can run it between the tackles on an NFL level. You cant get away with running that high either.

McFadden will be best used in a Reggie Bush role, not making him a pure RB like Ray Rice will be.

my list in the NFL longterm:

Ray

James Davis

Felix Jones

McFadden

 

[EBF]

McFadden reminds me of Norwood in a couple ways. Small hips , tall and lanky. I question whether he can run it between the tackles on an NFL level. You cant get away with running that high either.

I agree with you there. McFadden is lanky. He's a bit thicker than Norwood, but that's not a bad comparison. I don't think the comparisons to Bush and Peterson are warranted. He's not quite that good IMO. I'm beginning to warm up to this guy:

Rashard Mendenhall from Illinois. It's still relatively early in my evaluation process, but I think he might actually be the best NFL RB prospect in this class. He has burst and a much stronger build than McFadden.

This guy also figures to be a first round pick when he declares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCZJfJ4ZS0Q...ted&search=

Jonathan Stewart from Oregon. He's built like a tank with home run speed. He's not the most explosive back in the draft, but he's quick enough and he'll be a monster at the combine.

As I've said in other threads, I think McFadden, Stewart, and Mendenhall are locks for the first round if they declare. Slaton has a chance to sneak in there as well. Rice looks like a 2nd-3rd rounder to me mostly due to his lack of ideal size and 40 speed.

After that group you have a bunch of other guys battling for spots on the first day.

This is a deep RB crop that could ultimately produce as many as 5-6 starting NFL RBs.

 

[Sleeper 43]

McFadden reminds me of Norwood in a couple ways. Small hips , tall and lanky. I question whether he can run it between the tackles on an NFL level. You cant get away with running that high either.

I agree with you there. McFadden is lanky. He's a bit thicker than Norwood, but that's not a bad comparison. I don't think the comparisons to Bush and Peterson are warranted. He's not quite that good IMO. I'm beginning to warm up to this guy:

Good Stuff EBF , I was hearing rumblings of Mendenhall I didn't know it was literal though

 

[Dodge]

I'm a Rutgers Season Ticket holder, and I've been watching this kid for a while. I don't think he has the speed to play in the NFL at a high calibre level. He also gets ankle tackled and tripped up A LOT.

First Round pick? No.

First Day pick? Yes.

I think he should wait one more year.

 

[ack34]

He kind of reminds me of Curtis Martin. His heart may be his best attribute, but they don't factor that at the combine.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Would love to see him in a Browns uniform if he can last into the mid second round.

 

[brobe4]

Mendenhall should not be put with rice,slaton,mcfadden do that at your owe risk.Good luck with that.

Ya'll know mcfadden will do very well running between the tackles in the nfl. ( stud )

Ray Rice just gets it done what 200 carries already workhorse. Gets stronger as the game goes along where have I heard that before.

My list has Mendenhall between 7-9 rbs

 

[EBF]

I'm a Rutgers Season Ticket holder, and I've been watching this kid for a while. I don't think he has the speed to play in the NFL at a high calibre level. He also gets ankle tackled and tripped up A LOT.

Totally agree. He doesn't have top burst and he does seem easy to trip up. I still think he can be a Gore type, but I've cooled on him a little bit after hyping him up a lot earlier in the season.

 

[brobe4]

Rice has 734 carries 3913 yds 38 tds 5.4 yds a carry. Wow

Mendenhall 255 carries 1697 yds 15 tds 6.5 yds a carry. pretty good! Has put himself on the map. still has ??? about workload.

 

[EBF]

Mendenhall should not be put with rice,slaton,mcfadden do that at your owe risk.Good luck with that.Ya'll know mcfadden will do very well running between the tackles in the nfl. ( stud )Ray Rice just gets it done what 200 carries already workhorse. Gets stronger as the game goes along where have I heard that before.My list has Mendenhall between 7-9 rbs

All I can say is wait and see. The more I look at things, the more I think he might have the best NFL future of these guys. He has the perfect NFL RB build and has been a good player throughout his college career. He's produced on the field, he looks the part during games, and he will probably have a great performance at the combine. I predict that when it's all said and done he will be a consensus top 3 rookie pick if he declares this year. The guy is GOOD. And unlike a lot of the other top backs in this class, he appears to have the perfect combination of build and physical talent to seamlessly translate his success to the NFL.

 

[switz]

McFadden reminds me of Norwood in a couple ways. Small hips , tall and lanky. I question whether he can run it between the tackles on an NFL level. You cant get away with running that high either.

I agree with you there. McFadden is lanky. He's a bit thicker than Norwood, but that's not a bad comparison. I don't think the comparisons to Bush and Peterson are warranted. He's not quite that good IMO. I'm beginning to warm up to this guy:

Mendenhall reminds me of Michael Bennett, very little wiggle, can't break a tackle.Stewart I think will make a better NFL RB, but he lacks top end speed.

McFadden is the cream of the crop, not as lanky as Norwood or Bush, reminds me more of Marshall Faulk's build. Not saying he is a Marshall Faulk talent, just the same build. However, I do think McFadden is the best back in next year's class.

 

[EBF]

McFadden reminds me of Norwood in a couple ways. Small hips , tall and lanky. I question whether he can run it between the tackles on an NFL level. You cant get away with running that high either.

I agree with you there. McFadden is lanky. He's a bit thicker than Norwood, but that's not a bad comparison. I don't think the comparisons to Bush and Peterson are warranted. He's not quite that good IMO. I'm beginning to warm up to this guy:

Mendenhall is MUCH bigger than Michael Bennett. Bennett is listed at 5'9" 207. Mendenhall is listed at 5'11" 224. That's perfect size for an NFL RB. I don't think he'll have any trouble running between the tackles. Regarding your comment on Stewart, I disagree. If he lacked top end speed then he wouldn't able to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLS6C0HKrMc

That doesn't look like a guy who lacks speed. Dude is huge and fast, and he's having a monster season. He's a first rounder.

As for McFadden, I don't see a Faulk similarity at all. Faulk was much shorter and stockier. ESPN has McFadden at 6'2" 205 pounds. Faulk is listed at 5'11" 211. McFadden has long, skinny legs. That doesn't mean he can't be a great player in the NFL, but it's not a good thing.

 

[brock]

I'm beginning to warm up to this guy:

welcome to the party

 

[brock]

McFadden reminds me of Norwood in a couple ways. Small hips , tall and lanky. I question whether he can run it between the tackles on an NFL level. You cant get away with running that high either.

I agree with you there. McFadden is lanky. He's a bit thicker than Norwood, but that's not a bad comparison. I don't think the comparisons to Bush and Peterson are warranted. He's not quite that good IMO. I'm beginning to warm up to this guy:

 

[switz]

Mendenhall is MUCH bigger than Michael Bennett. Bennett is listed at 5'9" 207. Mendenhall is listed at 5'11" 224. That's perfect size for an NFL RB. I don't think he'll have any trouble running between the tackles.

I didn't say his SIZE reminded me of Bennett - his game does. I will grant you I have not seen a TON of him play, but form what I have seen, I'm not impressed. Straight line speed, can't gbreak a tackle, inferior vision, no wiggle.

Regarding your comment on Stewart, I disagree. If he lacked top end speed then he wouldn't able to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLS6C0HKrMc

That doesn't look like a guy who lacks speed. Dude is huge and fast, and he's having a monster season. He's a first rounder.

I didn't say he was slow, just that he doesn't have top end speed. I don't foresee him breaking any 88 yard plays in the NFL, where players in general have more speed, and take better angles. He'll be good, a first round pick, but not the most explosive of starting RBs.

As for McFadden, I don't see a Faulk similarity at all. Faulk was much shorter and stockier. ESPN has McFadden at 6'2" 205 pounds. Faulk is listed at 5'11" 211. McFadden has long, skinny legs. That doesn't mean he can't be a great player in the NFL, but it's not a good thing.

I guess when watching him run, he looks the same stature as Faulk. I didn't know his actual measurements. But his playing size doesn't seem to be tall to me. Contrary to the other "running high" comments. For having long legs he doesn't look like a long strider, but if he is - long striders make BAD NFL RBs.

 

[brobe4]

I would think guys picking 2,3,4,5 would love the guy picking 1st to pick medenhall. Imao

 

[EBF]

I didn't say his SIZE reminded me of Bennett - his game does. I will grant you I have not seen a TON of him play, but form what I have seen, I'm not impressed. Straight line speed, can't gbreak a tackle, inferior vision, no wiggle.

I'd suggest watching a little more of him. He's not an ankle breaker, but I don't think any of your knocks on him are justified.

I didn't say he was slow, just that he doesn't have top end speed. I don't foresee him breaking any 88 yard plays in the NFL, where players in general have more speed, and take better angles. He'll be good, a first round pick, but not the most explosive of starting RBs.

You said he lacks top end speed and I showed a video of him burning defensive backs. The guy is going to run a sub 4.5 at the combine. Is he Peterson or Bush fast? No, but speed is not an issue with him. He's as fast or faster than most starting NFL RBs.

 

[switz]

I didn't say his SIZE reminded me of Bennett - his game does. I will grant you I have not seen a TON of him play, but form what I have seen, I'm not impressed. Straight line speed, can't gbreak a tackle, inferior vision, no wiggle.

I'd suggest watching a little more of him. He's not an ankle breaker, but I don't think any of your knocks on him are justified.

I obviously will.

I didn't say he was slow, just that he doesn't have top end speed. I don't foresee him breaking any 88 yard plays in the NFL, where players in general have more speed, and take better angles. He'll be good, a first round pick, but not the most explosive of starting RBs.

You said he lacks top end speed and I showed a video of him burning defensive backs. The guy is going to run a sub 4.5 at the combine. Is he Peterson or Bush fast? No, but speed is not an issue with him. He's as fast or faster than most starting NFL RBs.

And I can show you a YouTube video where a LB catches him form behind. Point is, he's not playing against NFL talent, and he barely outruns those DB on the TD. He does lack top end speed. He will run in the 4.5s at the combine quite likely. Not below them.

 

[MCguidance]

I didn't say his SIZE reminded me of Bennett - his game does. I will grant you I have not seen a TON of him play, but form what I have seen, I'm not impressed. Straight line speed, can't gbreak a tackle, inferior vision, no wiggle.

I'd suggest watching a little more of him. He's not an ankle breaker, but I don't think any of your knocks on him are justified.

I obviously will.

I didn't say he was slow, just that he doesn't have top end speed. I don't foresee him breaking any 88 yard plays in the NFL, where players in general have more speed, and take better angles. He'll be good, a first round pick, but not the most explosive of starting RBs.

You said he lacks top end speed and I showed a video of him burning defensive backs. The guy is going to run a sub 4.5 at the combine. Is he Peterson or Bush fast? No, but speed is not an issue with him. He's as fast or faster than most starting NFL RBs.

And I can show you a YouTube video where a LB catches him form behind. Point is, he's not playing against NFL talent, and he barely outruns those DB on the TD. He does lack top end speed. He will run in the 4.5s at the combine quite likely. Not below them.

Does Lendale White outrun defenders? Didn't they say Emmit was not fast enough? There are so many instances where people have been knocked and then come into their own. I am not suggesting he is either of those players, by no means. But the guy is a legit college back. Whether that translates into NFL stardom, who knows. But I would say the guy has a better than average shot of being a a productive back.

 

[switz]

I didn't say his SIZE reminded me of Bennett - his game does. I will grant you I have not seen a TON of him play, but form what I have seen, I'm not impressed. Straight line speed, can't gbreak a tackle, inferior vision, no wiggle.

I'd suggest watching a little more of him. He's not an ankle breaker, but I don't think any of your knocks on him are justified.

I obviously will.

I didn't say he was slow, just that he doesn't have top end speed. I don't foresee him breaking any 88 yard plays in the NFL, where players in general have more speed, and take better angles. He'll be good, a first round pick, but not the most explosive of starting RBs.

You said he lacks top end speed and I showed a video of him burning defensive backs. The guy is going to run a sub 4.5 at the combine. Is he Peterson or Bush fast? No, but speed is not an issue with him. He's as fast or faster than most starting NFL RBs.

And I can show you a YouTube video where a LB catches him form behind. Point is, he's not playing against NFL talent, and he barely outruns those DB on the TD. He does lack top end speed. He will run in the 4.5s at the combine quite likely. Not below them.

Does Lendale White outrun defenders? Didn't they say Emmit was not fast enough? There are so many instances where people have been knocked and then come into their own. I am not suggesting he is either of those players, by no means. But the guy is a legit college back. Whether that translates into NFL stardom, who knows. But I would say the guy has a better than average shot of being a a productive back.

And I already said he would be a first round pick, and should translate well in the NFL.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

McFadden reminds me of Norwood in a couple ways. Small hips , tall and lanky. I question whether he can run it between the tackles on an NFL level. You cant get away with running that high either.

I agree with you there. McFadden is lanky. He's a bit thicker than Norwood, but that's not a bad comparison. I don't think the comparisons to Bush and Peterson are warranted. He's not quite that good IMO. I'm beginning to warm up to this guy:

Did you miss the 88 yard TD run against Fresno State? He has more than enough top end speed.

Edit: I see that EBF addressed that. Sorry to pile on.

 

[Loopdog]

still think McFadden is the cream of the crop next year. I think Ray Rice reminds me of Larry Johnson more than any other current NFL runner. Similar build and such, not as talented obviously. I think Rice will have a nice NFL career though, but the workload is troubling. Rutgers runs him to death even in the cupcake games.

 

[Two Deep]

if Schiano doesn't run him into the ground before the draft

 

[mr. furley]

still think McFadden is the cream of the crop next year. I think Ray Rice reminds me of Larry Johnson more than any other current NFL runner. Similar build and such, not as talented obviously. I think Rice will have a nice NFL career though, but the workload is troubling. Rutgers runs him to death even in the cupcake games.

#27 Ray Rice | RB

Height: 5-9

Weight: 205 lbs

#27 Larry Johnson, RB

Height 6-1

Weight 230

 

[PahtyTom]

if Schiano doesn't run him into the ground before the draft

 

[texasyankee]

Ray Rice will not come out early. He wants his degree and this season will leave a bad taste in his mouth.

He also looks up to Brian Leonard who stayed 5 years.

When he comes out he will be a great back, of course I am biased

 

[bluesclues]

Mendenhall is the second best back int he country right now.

Slaton is not really an NFL back - seems more of a slot player - might tak eon similar role as Reggie Bush did when Deuce was healthy.

Jon Stewart is a beast - I think his game translates into the NFL well.

Mike Hart is a no go - I do not like him at all at NFL level.

McFadden will be a top 5 pick in NFL draft.

 

[Bojang0301]

still think McFadden is the cream of the crop next year. I think Ray Rice reminds me of Larry Johnson more than any other current NFL runner. Similar build and such, not as talented obviously. I think Rice will have a nice NFL career though, but the workload is troubling. Rutgers runs him to death even in the cupcake games.

#27 Ray Rice | RB

Height: 5-9

Weight: 205 lbs

#27 Larry Johnson, RB

Height 6-1

Weight 230

 

[RUSF18]

I've stood next to Ray...he's not even 5-9.