RB Alexander Mattison, MIA (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So the big question is does Cook remain?

I just read a rumor that MIA was interested in dealing for Cook, which would open the door to singing Mattison cheaper.

He knows the offense - it makes all kinds of sense.

ETA: ok, step 1 is done!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Vikings re-signed RB Alexander Mattison to a two-year, $7 million contract.​

The return of Mattison could further stoke the Dalvin Cook trade rumors. Cook has reportedly drawn interest from multiple teams over the last several days and would be a contract the cap-strapped Vikings would like to dump if possible. A lifelong Viking, Mattison has rushed for 404-1670-11 since being drafted by the Vikings in 2019 and has three 100-yard rushing performances to his name. He'd be in the conversation as a high-end RB2 if he were to enter 2023 as Minnesota's lead back.
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• Dalvin Cook

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Mar 15, 2023, 9:02 PM ET

Oh snap - missed this! Woohoo!

NOW GET ON THE HORN AND SEND COOK TO MIAMI BUFFALO YOU HEATHENS!

 

[menobrown]

So the big question is does Cook remain?

I just read a rumor that MIA was interested in dealing for Cook, which would open the door to singing Mattison cheaper.

He knows the offense - it makes all kinds of sense.

ETA: ok, step 1 is done!

I don’t believe that rumor. In last 24 hours MIA has resigned Mostert, Wilson and Gaskins.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

In last 24 hours MIA has resigned Mostert, Wilson and Gaskins.

Oh - I didn't see that they'd re-signed Wilson.

This pretty well kills the Gibbs to the Dolphins mocks as well.

Ah well - I don't care were Cook goes, just ship him off already! Buffalo is nice this time of year, no? Make it so.gif

 

[menobrown]

In last 24 hours MIA has resigned Mostert, Wilson and Gaskins.

Oh - I didn't see that they'd re-signed Wilson.

This pretty well kills the Gibbs to the Dolphins mocks as well.

Ah well - I don't care were Cook goes, just ship him off already! Buffalo is nice this time of year, no? Make it so.gif

Honestly thought the other day pairing him with his brother would be cool, and seems possible.

 

[Kevrunner]

He only signed for 2 years/$7 million. That just sounds so cheap, especially when James Robinson signed for 2 years/$8 million with the Patriots just a little while ago. I would have thought Mattison would have gotten a much more lucrative contract than Robinson.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

In last 24 hours MIA has resigned Mostert, Wilson and Gaskins.

Oh - I didn't see that they'd re-signed Wilson.

This pretty well kills the Gibbs to the Dolphins mocks as well.

Ah well - I don't care were Cook goes, just ship him off already! Buffalo is nice this time of year, no? Make it so.gif

Honestly thought the other day pairing him with his brother would be cool, and seems possible.

Their skills would compliment each other well.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He only signed for 2 years/$7 million. That just sounds so cheap, especially when James Robinson signed for 2 years/$8 million with the Patriots just a little while ago. I would have thought Mattison would have gotten a much more lucrative contract than Robinson.

Shocking. Robinson must have a better agent?

 

[zamboni]

He only signed for 2 years/$7 million. That just sounds so cheap, especially when James Robinson signed for 2 years/$8 million with the Patriots just a little while ago. I would have thought Mattison would have gotten a much more lucrative contract than Robinson.

Shocking. Robinson must have a better agent?

Maybe the market wasn’t that hot for his services and thought he was a function of the Vikings system - who knows.

 

[menobrown]

He only signed for 2 years/$7 million. That just sounds so cheap, especially when James Robinson signed for 2 years/$8 million with the Patriots just a little while ago. I would have thought Mattison would have gotten a much more lucrative contract than Robinson.

Shocking. Robinson must have a better agent?

No. Robinson's contract is UP to $8m. So is Mattisons. Have to see structure but Mattison got $6M guaranteed, bet Robinson did not come close to that.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Maybe the market wasn’t that hot for his services and thought he was a function of the Vikings system - who knows.

Or it could be a hometown discount. Players sometimes like staying with their team. IIRC AM has never played anywhere else. Maybe he has roots. Maybe a paltry $1M wasn’t worth the upheaval.

It’s not that much of a difference.

But enough human interest stories - has MIN traded Cook yet?! That’s all I need to have happen for this to be a damn near perfect off-season for my total rebuild.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

bet Robinson did not come close to that.

Ah - yeah, that’s the difference then. Plus Robinson is competing for touches with R.S.

Good luck with that.

 

[Boone22]

In last 24 hours MIA has resigned Mostert, Wilson and Gaskins.

Oh - I didn't see that they'd re-signed Wilson.

This pretty well kills the Gibbs to the Dolphins mocks as well.

Ah well - I don't care were Cook goes, just ship him off already! Buffalo is nice this time of year, no? Make it so.gif

Honestly thought the other day pairing him with his brother would be cool, and seems possible.

Imagine Dalvin getting traded to the Chiefs…

 

[Kiddnets]

If Cook is traded and MAttison is the main RB in Minny what range would he be next year? Id be very high on him in that offense.

 

[jabarony]

If Cook is traded and MAttison is the main RB in Minny what range would he be next year? Id be very high on him in that offense.

High RB2. He puts up numbers when Cook is out. I'd give a 1st for him.

 

[travdogg]

If Cook is traded and MAttison is the main RB in Minny what range would he be next year? Id be very high on him in that offense.

RB15 or so. I think his workload would be a little smaller than it has been when he's filled in for Cook in the past, as they would be trying to make him last the season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If Cook is traded and MAttison is the main RB in Minny what range would he be next year? Id be very high on him in that offense.

RB 10-12

I like going out on limbs.

He has been an effective replacement when Cook has been out. I see no reason why that would change in a full time role.

 

[eighsse2]

If Cook is traded and MAttison is the main RB in Minny what range would he be next year? Id be very high on him in that offense.

RB 10-12

I like going out on limbs.

He has been an effective replacement when Cook has been out. I see no reason why that would change in a full time role.

I don't even think that is a very long limb. Could definitely see that happening.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

RB15 or so. I think his workload would be a little smaller than it has been when he's filled in for Cook

I’d expect that Minnesota drafts or signs another RB to help split the workload.

Mattison is making peanuts.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’d expect that Minnesota drafts or signs another RB to help split the workload.

Mattison is making peanuts.

Word is they really like Ty Chandler. 5’11, 205, quick as a hiccup.

They’ll probably bring in another back, but I could see them giving Mattison a shot at a dominant workload share.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I’d expect that Minnesota drafts or signs another RB to help split the workload.

Mattison is making peanuts.

Word is they really like Ty Chandler. 5’11, 205, quick as a hiccup.

They’ll probably bring in another back, but I could see them giving Mattison a shot at a dominant workload share.

Yes, I didn’t mean an even split - just that he’s going to have his own Mattison to deal with. Maybe it’s Chandler, maybe it’s a draft pick.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’d expect that Minnesota drafts or signs another RB to help split the workload.

Mattison is making peanuts.

Word is they really like Ty Chandler. 5’11, 205, quick as a hiccup.

They’ll probably bring in another back, but I could see them giving Mattison a shot at a dominant workload share.

Yes, I didn’t mean an even split - just that he’s going to have his own Mattison to deal with. Maybe it’s Chandler, maybe it’s a draft pick.

Agreed.

 

[Faust]

Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell described Alexander Mattison as an every-down running back. ​

With Dalvin Cook unlikely to be on the Minnesota roster come Week 1, O'Connell recently lauded Mattison's demonstration of "that all-three-down kind of ownership that he's been capable of for a long time." ESPN's Kevin Seifert said "all indications" point to the team deploying Mattison the same way they have when Cook has been sidelined with injury in recent seasons. Cook in 2022 saw 74 percent of Minnesota's carries. After signing a not-insignificant two-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings in March, Mattison, 24, could be the primary back in a highly-productive Vikings offense this season. He remains a steal in early fantasy drafts with the assumption Cook will end up with another team this summer.
RELATED:

• Dalvin Cook

SOURCE: ESPN.com
Jun 2, 2023, 9:13 AM ET

 

[MTskibum]

I have been drafting him in best balls like he is going to be the starter. He is still really cheap in drafts. I will get all of my copies of him in early June before Cook is cut.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell described Alexander Mattison as an every-down running back. ​

With Dalvin Cook unlikely to be on the Minnesota roster come Week 1, O'Connell recently lauded Mattison's demonstration of "that all-three-down kind of ownership that he's been capable of for a long time." ESPN's Kevin Seifert said "all indications" point to the team deploying Mattison the same way they have when Cook has been sidelined with injury in recent seasons. Cook in 2022 saw 74 percent of Minnesota's carries. After signing a not-insignificant two-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings in March, Mattison, 24, could be the primary back in a highly-productive Vikings offense this season. He remains a steal in early fantasy drafts with the assumption Cook will end up with another team this summer.
RELATED:

• Dalvin Cook

SOURCE: ESPN.com
Jun 2, 2023, 9:13 AM ET

So let's kick Cook to the curb and make it happen, captain.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

 

[menobrown]

I posted this article in the Dalvin thread which was a good breakdown of the Vikings RB situation, which they don't believe will include Cook, and here is the part of that article regarding Mattison.

What do they see in Mattison?​

In a relatively small sample size over the previous four seasons, Mattison has proved to be a younger, less expensive and less explosive version of Cook. That view remains the best way to think of him. He is a physical inside runner, having averaged 1.91 yards per rush after contact -- slightly higher than Cook's mark of 1.77 over that period -- but only one of his 404 career carries has gone beyond 24 yards.

His cap numbers over the next two seasons, however, are $2.4 million and $4.6 million, respectively. The question to ask is whether the drop-off in performance from Cook to Mattison, if any, would be worth the smaller financial footprint. The Vikings seem to have made their decision, and it makes sense from this vantage point.

Would Mattison take the bulk of carries?​

All indications are that O'Connell would use Mattison as an every-down back, similar to last season when Cook received 74% of the carries. O'Connell, in fact, offered up his "three-down" assessment last week when asked a general question about the state of the running back position.

 

[MTskibum]

Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell described Alexander Mattison as an every-down running back. ​

With Dalvin Cook unlikely to be on the Minnesota roster come Week 1, O'Connell recently lauded Mattison's demonstration of "that all-three-down kind of ownership that he's been capable of for a long time." ESPN's Kevin Seifert said "all indications" point to the team deploying Mattison the same way they have when Cook has been sidelined with injury in recent seasons. Cook in 2022 saw 74 percent of Minnesota's carries. After signing a not-insignificant two-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings in March, Mattison, 24, could be the primary back in a highly-productive Vikings offense this season. He remains a steal in early fantasy drafts with the assumption Cook will end up with another team this summer.
RELATED:

• Dalvin Cook

SOURCE: ESPN.com
Jun 2, 2023, 9:13 AM ET

So let's kick Cook to the curb and make it happen, captain.

They need to wait until July, keep Mattison really cheap for summer best balls.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I missed him by a couple picks in my startup and I needed a RB3, too.

I traded Mariota & Zay Jones for him & Bell in my rebuild, and he’s now my RB5, so I might sell high on him or one of my other RB for a WR4 upgrade.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Mattison stats in games cook has missed.

6 games
117 attempts/477 rushing yards
23 receptions/216 receiving yards
5 total TD’s

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I could be wrong but i feel like Mattison did almost nothing last year, many folks drafted him and kept rostering him all season for zero pay off.
He's not as good as some of you think
Yes if Cook is released or traded then Mattison would see an uptick.
Alexander signed a 2 yr/$7M deal or extension in March, what a bargain the Vikings got if they try and make him the starting RB.
I wonder if Mattison was told he might be starting when he signed.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I could be wrong but i feel like Mattison did almost nothing last year, many folks drafted him and kept rostering him all season for zero pay off.
He's not as good as some of you think
Yes if Cook is released or traded then Mattison would see an uptick.
Alexander signed a 2 yr/$7M deal or extension in March, what a bargain the Vikings got if they try and make him the starting RB.
I wonder if Mattison was told he might be starting when he signed.

Opportunity is why Isiah Pacheco has value.

If Mattison becomes the starting RB for the Vikings he will similarly have value.

He’s a more talented RB than Pacheco, IMO. Whether he capitalizes on that opportunity is TBD.

But as soon as Cook is gone imma try to sell high on Mattison.

 

[msudaisy26]

Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell described Alexander Mattison as an every-down running back. ​

With Dalvin Cook unlikely to be on the Minnesota roster come Week 1, O'Connell recently lauded Mattison's demonstration of "that all-three-down kind of ownership that he's been capable of for a long time." ESPN's Kevin Seifert said "all indications" point to the team deploying Mattison the same way they have when Cook has been sidelined with injury in recent seasons. Cook in 2022 saw 74 percent of Minnesota's carries. After signing a not-insignificant two-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings in March, Mattison, 24, could be the primary back in a highly-productive Vikings offense this season. He remains a steal in early fantasy drafts with the assumption Cook will end up with another team this summer.
RELATED:

• Dalvin Cook

SOURCE: ESPN.com
Jun 2, 2023, 9:13 AM ET

So let's kick Cook to the curb and make it happen, captain.

They need to wait until July, keep Mattison really cheap for summer best balls.

That ship might have sailed. I was getting Mattison late round 8 into round 9. All this week he has been going round 6.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell described Alexander Mattison as an every-down running back. ​

With Dalvin Cook unlikely to be on the Minnesota roster come Week 1, O'Connell recently lauded Mattison's demonstration of "that all-three-down kind of ownership that he's been capable of for a long time." ESPN's Kevin Seifert said "all indications" point to the team deploying Mattison the same way they have when Cook has been sidelined with injury in recent seasons. Cook in 2022 saw 74 percent of Minnesota's carries. After signing a not-insignificant two-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings in March, Mattison, 24, could be the primary back in a highly-productive Vikings offense this season. He remains a steal in early fantasy drafts with the assumption Cook will end up with another team this summer.
RELATED:

• Dalvin Cook

SOURCE: ESPN.com
Jun 2, 2023, 9:13 AM ET

So let's kick Cook to the curb and make it happen, captain.

They need to wait until July, keep Mattison really cheap for summer best balls.

That ship might have sailed. I was getting Mattison late round 8 into round 9. All this week he has been going round 6.

13th round of my 16 team IDP PPR SF start-up yesterday.

 

[msudaisy26]

Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell described Alexander Mattison as an every-down running back. ​

With Dalvin Cook unlikely to be on the Minnesota roster come Week 1, O'Connell recently lauded Mattison's demonstration of "that all-three-down kind of ownership that he's been capable of for a long time." ESPN's Kevin Seifert said "all indications" point to the team deploying Mattison the same way they have when Cook has been sidelined with injury in recent seasons. Cook in 2022 saw 74 percent of Minnesota's carries. After signing a not-insignificant two-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings in March, Mattison, 24, could be the primary back in a highly-productive Vikings offense this season. He remains a steal in early fantasy drafts with the assumption Cook will end up with another team this summer.
RELATED:

• Dalvin Cook

SOURCE: ESPN.com
Jun 2, 2023, 9:13 AM ET

So let's kick Cook to the curb and make it happen, captain.

They need to wait until July, keep Mattison really cheap for summer best balls.

That ship might have sailed. I was getting Mattison late round 8 into round 9. All this week he has been going round 6.

13th round of my 16 team IDP PPR SF start-up yesterday.

Not bad. Mine was best ball redraft.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Not bad. Mine was best ball redraft.

Take away ~30 IDP drafted by then, plus 16 1st round draft picks and he’s probably in line with yours. And it’s SF, so Ridder & Howell gone by the 6th.

Might even be higher than yours.

 

[Aznflyer14]

Has anyone sold high on Alexander Mattison (to maximize the hype and his increased value)?

 

[TomServo]

About a week ago
Mattison, Rondale Moore, and Terrace Marshall for Henry and Aiyuk

 

[jabarony]

Has anyone sold high on Alexander Mattison (to maximize the hype and his increased value)?

I bought Mattison & 3rd for my 1st next year.

Though I'll consider that a buy low.

 

[travdogg]

About a week ago
Mattison, Rondale Moore, and Terrace Marshall for Henry and Aiyuk

Awesome deal. I'm probably driving the Rondale Moore bandwagon, but man that's an awesome deal. Upgrading both RB and WR.

 

[Aznflyer14]

I sold Mattison and one of my future 2nd round picks for 1.03 this year (12 teams 1 QB PPR league). I figure it's great time to sell high at this point.

 

[JohnnyU]

I sold Mattison and one of my future 2nd round picks for 1.03 this year (12 teams 1 QB PPR league). I figure it's great time to sell high at this point.

It certainly is.

 

[SayWhat?]

I wouldn’t be so quick to sell high, especially if you’re gunning for a title. Provided he stays healthy, a top 10 season for Mattison is more likely than not (IMO) in what is one of the more fantasy friendly offenses.

 

[JohnnyU]

I wouldn’t be so quick to sell high, especially if you’re gunning for a title. Provided he stays healthy, a top 10 season for Mattison is more likely than not (IMO) in what is one of the more fantasy friendly offenses.

Well, I'm not saying you're wrong, but his 3.8 and 3.7 yards per carry leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps he just needs volume to be better, I don't know.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Perhaps he just needs volume to be better, I don't know.

ypc on small sample sizes (and yes those individual seasons would be small sample sizes) isn’t always as meaningful as they seem.

If one defender falls allowing a long run somewhere in there is he all of a sudden a better RB?

I’m not saying it’s completely meaningless - but both Cook and Mattison saw their ypc drop the last two seasons - meaning it could be an oline or playcalling issue. Maybe those things don’t change maybe they do.

When watching games I never noticed much of a drop off, if any, when Mattison was out there and they’ve clearly shown they believe in him. While Cook was still there they changes their social media banners to feature Jefferson and Mattison.

I expect to see whichever backup wins the job, Chandler or McBride, to see more of a role than what Mattison got when Cook was healthy - meaning some kind of split, but Mattison should easily be able to put up RB2 numbers in this offense.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wouldn’t be so quick to sell high, especially if you’re gunning for a title. Provided he stays healthy, a top 10 season for Mattison is more likely than not (IMO) in what is one of the more fantasy friendly offenses.

I would agree if I didn’t already have Bijan, ETN, Montgomery & AJ Dillon

Feels like I’d be better off turning one of my WR2s into a WR1 if someone needed a RB.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well, I'm not saying you're wrong, but his 3.8 and 3.7 yards per carry leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps he just needs volume to be better, I don't know.

The 2 years prior to that he was 4.6 & 4.5

maybe he could be good.

Maybe not.

But only using 2 of his 4 seasons to make your point is a bit less effective.

 

[travdogg]

Top-10 seems very optimistic. I think if you go in expecting an average RB2 season out of Mattison you should be happy with your return. RB20 or so sounds right as an unproven RB who has had some success, Mattison seems to fit in the Dobbins/Pierce range to me.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Perhaps he just needs volume to be better, I don't know.

ypc on small sample sizes (and yes those individual seasons would be small sample sizes) isn’t always as meaningful as they seem.

If one defender falls allowing a long run somewhere in there is he all of a sudden a better RB?

I’m not saying it’s completely meaningless - but both Cook and Mattison saw their ypc drop the last two seasons - meaning it could be an oline or playcalling issue. Maybe those things don’t change maybe they do.

When watching games I never noticed much of a drop off, if any, when Mattison was out there and they’ve clearly shown they believe in him. While Cook was still there they changes their social media banners to feature Jefferson and Mattison.

I expect to see whichever backup wins the job, Chandler or McBride, to see more of a role than what Mattison got when Cook was healthy - meaning some kind of split, but Mattison should easily be able to put up RB2 numbers in this offense.

I don't think the theory is that Mattison has necessarily gotten worse, just that it's looking much more likely that he was always a JAG in the first place that looked good in limited action because he was in one of the most RB friendly systems in the NFL. A system that no longer exists in Minnesota.

Cook's numbers dipped too but not nearly to the extent of Mattison, which I think leads credence to the theory that Cook is a much better RB who can to some extent outplay his situation, while Mattison's production is pretty much completely dictated by his situation.

FWIW I'm also not sure I would consider 164 touches in a season to be a particularly "small sample size" in the NFL these days.

I agree that he can put up RB2 numbers in this situation, which is true of virtually any RB that is in line to get the bulk of the work in an offense. But those are the guys that are often replaced in their offense sooner rather than later, though I will admit I approach everything from a dynasty perspective these days so if people are thinking purely redraft that changes things.

 

[menobrown]

Cook's numbers dipped too but not nearly to the extent of Mattison, which I think leads credence to the theory that Cook is a much better RB who can to some extent outplay his situation, while Mattison's production is pretty much completely dictated by his situation

I don't know about this, most of the analytics I've seen suggest Mattison out performed Cook last year.