RB Alvin Kamara, NO (1 Viewer)

[zamboni]

Rumor that CEH signed by Saints.

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OMG start the presses. Film at 11.

Could be a sign that Kamara is out and they need more help (good news for Kendre pick-up). If you think otherwise, that's cool.

I have Miller, but I wouldn’t feel comfortable starting him in the playoffs. Yeah, signing CEH isn’t a threat to Miller in anyway shape, form, or fashion.

I’d consider Miller at flex (over Stevenson/McMillan/Coker) but only if Kamara is ruled out by the Sunday early games. Tough matchup on the road at Lambeau but volume is volume.

 

[habsfan]

As always the question is, "Who else ya got"?

I don't see Miller running wild in GB this week and this time of year, next week doesn't matter.

 

[cockroach]

I have Kamara/Kendrae and Doubs/Wicks to fill one spot. Hoping I already have a lead and it's a moot point.

 

[cockroach]

As always the question is, "Who else ya got"?

I don't see Miller running wild in GB this week and this time of year, next week doesn't matter.

I don't see him running wild either, but he catches the ball well and I'd expect them to roll out a similar game plan as they would with Kamara. 4-5 catches for 45-50 yds on top of whatever he can scrap together in the running game isn't crazy.

 

[zoonation]

As always the question is, "Who else ya got"?

I don't see Miller running wild in GB this week and this time of year, next week doesn't matter.

I don't see him running wild either, but he catches the ball well and I'd expect them to roll out a similar game plan as they would with Kamara. 4-5 catches for 45-50 yds on top of whatever he can scrap together in the running game isn't crazy.

10 yards per? That’s quite the projection.

 

[eighsse2]

As always the question is, "Who else ya got"?

I don't see Miller running wild in GB this week and this time of year, next week doesn't matter.

I don't see him running wild either, but he catches the ball well and I'd expect them to roll out a similar game plan as they would with Kamara. 4-5 catches for 45-50 yds on top of whatever he can scrap together in the running game isn't crazy.

10 yards per? That’s quite the projection.

He's averaging 8 this year.

 

[-jb-]

Nick Underhill

@nick_underhill


Alvin Kamara’s injury is more significant than believed. He’s week to week and unlikely to play on Monday

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[zamboni]

Nick Underhill
@nick_underhill


Alvin Kamara’s injury is more significant than believed. He’s week to week and unlikely to play on Monday

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Isn’t that the guy who Fletch charged his bill to at the country club?

 

[LawFitz]

Nick Underhill
@nick_underhill
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Alvin Kamara’s injury is more significant than believed. He’s week to week and unlikely to play on Monday

Nick Underhill
@nick_underhill
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Alvin Kamara intends to try to get back before the season is over, I’m told. A lot of work to do but he’s aiming to make that happen. Hasn’t thrown in the towel on it even though there are only three games left.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Being Captain Obvious for a second, Kamara seems droppable in redraft if there is anything left on your waiver wire. Even if he played in week 16 or 17, I wouldn't trust him anyway.

 

[-jb-]

Schefter reporting could be season ending

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Being Captain Obvious for a second, Kamara seems droppable in redraft if there is anything left on your waiver wire. Even if he played in week 16 or 17, I wouldn't trust him anyway.

Came here to ask that question. I have Guerendo and Kamara (and no IR slot). I don't need to pick anyone else up (starting Bijan and B-Rob) but I figure I might as well get Patrick Taylor just in case he shows something or if one of my remaining starters goes down this week.

In terms of who to drop, Kamara seems less likely to play this season, but he's also Alvin Freakin' Kamara, and there's a part of me that can't make myself drop him until he's definitively ruled out for the season. But I know that's probably what I should do

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Nick Underhill
@nick_underhill


Alvin Kamara’s injury is more significant than believed. He’s week to week and unlikely to play on Monday

x.com

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Isn’t that the guy who Fletch charged his bill to at the country club?

Tierra del Fuego!

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Being Captain Obvious for a second, Kamara seems droppable in redraft if there is anything left on your waiver wire. Even if he played in week 16 or 17, I wouldn't trust him anyway.

Came here to ask that question. I have Guerendo and Kamara (and no IR slot). I don't need to pick anyone else up (starting Bijan and B-Rob) but I figure I might as well get Patrick Taylor just in case he shows something or if one of my remaining starters goes down this week.

In terms of who to drop, Kamara seems less likely to play this season, but he's also Alvin Freakin' Kamara, and there's a part of me that can't make myself drop him until he's definitively ruled out for the season. But I know that's probably what I should do

I plan to drop him unless I hear some sort of positive news before Sunday. I would for sure grab Taylor if he were out there just in case he shows out, simply to keep him off a potential opponent’s roster. I do not want to be facing anyone that gets carries for San Francisco. Taylor runs hard. I believe he will perform well if given the reins.

At this point, with a groin injury, I wouldn’t trust Kamara even if he miraculously found his way to the field in the next two weeks. I believe the likely outcome here is IR. If my opponent wants to grab him and start him in the unlikely event he gets back out there, I’d welcome it. This is redraft only of course. In dynasty there is hope he plays for a contender next year.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Being Captain Obvious for a second, Kamara seems droppable in redraft if there is anything left on your waiver wire. Even if he played in week 16 or 17, I wouldn't trust him anyway.

Came here to ask that question. I have Guerendo and Kamara (and no IR slot). I don't need to pick anyone else up (starting Bijan and B-Rob) but I figure I might as well get Patrick Taylor just in case he shows something or if one of my remaining starters goes down this week.

In terms of who to drop, Kamara seems less likely to play this season, but he's also Alvin Freakin' Kamara, and there's a part of me that can't make myself drop him until he's definitively ruled out for the season. But I know that's probably what I should do

I plan to drop him unless I hear some sort of positive news before Sunday. I would for sure grab Taylor if he were out there just in case he shows out, simply to keep him off a potential opponent’s roster. I do not want to be facing anyone that gets carries for San Francisco. Taylor runs hard. I believe he will perform well if given the reins.

At this point, with a groin injury, I wouldn’t trust Kamara even if he miraculously found his way to the field in the next two weeks. I believe the likely outcome here is IR. If my opponent wants to grab him and start him in the unlikely event he gets back out there, I’d welcome it. This is redraft only of course. In dynasty there is hope he plays for a contender next year.

Would you drop Kamara before Guerendo? Even just typing that out, I realize I'm being swayed by "brand". But in the cold heart light of reality, Kamara's highly unlikely to play this year. And even if he does, it's not like he's a smash start on a team where everyone else is hurt, too. I had actually already benched him last week for B-Rob because I was worried about NO's offense. And even though that was technically the wrong decision because of the TD catch, his stats outside of that one play mostly justified my skepticism

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Being Captain Obvious for a second, Kamara seems droppable in redraft if there is anything left on your waiver wire. Even if he played in week 16 or 17, I wouldn't trust him anyway.

Came here to ask that question. I have Guerendo and Kamara (and no IR slot). I don't need to pick anyone else up (starting Bijan and B-Rob) but I figure I might as well get Patrick Taylor just in case he shows something or if one of my remaining starters goes down this week.

In terms of who to drop, Kamara seems less likely to play this season, but he's also Alvin Freakin' Kamara, and there's a part of me that can't make myself drop him until he's definitively ruled out for the season. But I know that's probably what I should do

I plan to drop him unless I hear some sort of positive news before Sunday. I would for sure grab Taylor if he were out there just in case he shows out, simply to keep him off a potential opponent’s roster. I do not want to be facing anyone that gets carries for San Francisco. Taylor runs hard. I believe he will perform well if given the reins.

At this point, with a groin injury, I wouldn’t trust Kamara even if he miraculously found his way to the field in the next two weeks. I believe the likely outcome here is IR. If my opponent wants to grab him and start him in the unlikely event he gets back out there, I’d welcome it. This is redraft only of course. In dynasty there is hope he plays for a contender next year.

Would you drop Kamara before Guerendo? Even just typing that out, I realize I'm being swayed by "brand". But in the cold heart light of reality, Kamara's highly unlikely to play this year. And even if he does, it's not like he's a smash start on a team where everyone else is hurt, too. I had actually already benched him last week for B-Rob because I was worried about NO's offense. And even though that was technically the wrong decision because of the TD catch, his stats outside of that one play mostly justified my skepticism

Personally, yes. Unless I hear something extremely positive by tomorrow, I'm dropping him for lottery ticket junk. I see no reason a sane team wouldn't just shut him down for the season at this point. Regardless of if he "can" gut it out, he shouldn't be allowed to. They're done this season. They might need him next year, as trade bait at the least. And it's a good idea to see what they have with Miller for the final three weeks of the season. I haven't heard any rumors but it wouldn't surprise me if they IR him as early as this weekend.

 

[VikingFrog]

I don’t think he’ll play.

I don’t think he’ll play the rest of the season.

I won’t drop him and watch him show up on my opponents roster next week unless I 100% know that.

I just can’t do that with a top 5 back. Personally.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I don’t think he’ll play.

I don’t think he’ll play the rest of the season.

I won’t drop him and watch him show up on my opponents roster next week unless I 100% know that.

I just can’t do that with a top 5 back. Personally.

This strategy is understandable as well. It's a probability game and very much dependent on your roster construction, your opponent's roster construction and what's on the WW.

 

[VikingFrog]

I don’t think he’ll play.

I don’t think he’ll play the rest of the season.

I won’t drop him and watch him show up on my opponents roster next week unless I 100% know that.

I just can’t do that with a top 5 back. Personally.

This strategy is understandable as well. It's a probability game and very much dependent on your roster construction, your opponent's roster construction and what's on the WW.

True that. Also have to take into consideration that it doesn’t matter if your opponent owns him next week if you don’t win this week. So I totally understand dropping him as well.

 

[Banger]

Any update on his injury status for this week?

 

[fatness]

Any update on his injury status for this week?

Clear as mud.

"New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara (groin) was listed as a non-participant on Wednesday's practice estimation. The Saints didn't have an actual practice, but if they did, Kamara would have not participated. The veteran running back picked up a groin injury back in Week 15 and hasn't played since. Interim head coach Darren Rizzi recently noted that Kamara wants to play again this week and certainly doesn't want to be shut down for the rest of the regular season, but he also said that a decision hasn't been made on the 29-year-old's status going forward."

 

[rockaction]

No practice today. Rizzi (interim coach) says it’s looking “unlikely" he’ll play this week but “more likely" that he’ll play Week 18. I would not take that at total face value. He might come back this week if he’s this determined to do that, which Rizzi claims he is. Check back tomorrow for Friday’s practice designation or participation.

 

[habsfan]

I think Kamara is one of those "you have to take his helmet away" types. That's a rough fantasy scenario. I have him and Miller but can't afford to whiff on them. I am likely looking elsewhere.

 

[rockaction]

I think Kamara is one of those "you have to take his helmet away" types. That's a rough fantasy scenario. I have him and Miller but can't afford to whiff on them. I am likely looking elsewhere

But, Friar Tuck, I’m poor and I have nowhere else to look.

 

[rockaction]

Friar John is Romeo and Juliet. (In case you’re wondering, that was my original Friar in response.)

This Bears game can’t get here soon enough. It’s 4:10? Geez. What am I going to do until Saturday when that is over?

 

[habsfan]

I think Kamara is one of those "you have to take his helmet away" types. That's a rough fantasy scenario. I have him and Miller but can't afford to whiff on them. I am likely looking elsewhere

But, Friar Tuck, I’m poor and I have nowhere else to look.

Apologies. I've been rostering Charbs all year and I've decided to whiff on him instead of Kamara/Miller.

 

[rockaction]

Apologies. I've been rostering Charbs all year and I've decided to whiff on him instead of Kamara/Miller

I would much, much rather have your option. I think Chicago has been pretty bad against the run this year, but these things always stiffen up at the end of Dec/early Jan, and especially at home on a temperate/cool night. But good luck. Finals time is a nice time for all that roster idolatry to come to the fore and be of use.

 

[Doug B]

Saints starting center Eric McCoy ruled out for Sunday. LG Lucas Patrick, as well. The Saints offense behind Spencer Rattler is going to be stuck in neutral all afternoon. I’d avoid any Saints offensive players right now.

 

[zoonation]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

 

[Birdie048]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

And won’t get a 2nd in trade return value. Steal!!

 

[FarFromHome]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

Always been a kamara fan. My huge red flag is that offense is gonna be bad

 

[Birdie048]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

Always been a kamara fan. My huge red flag is that offense is gonna be bad

Don’t you hold potential with Kellen Moore running the ship?

 

[menobrown]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

Always been a kamara fan. My huge red flag is that offense is gonna be bad

Don’t you hold potential with Kellen Moore running the ship?

Personally I'm not really worried about the offense in the notion it's been bad for awhile and I don't see it as worse but I actually am a little worried about Moore's impact on Kamara as he's not had great success with RB's in the passing game, which is what AK does best.

 

[FarFromHome]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

Always been a kamara fan. My huge red flag is that offense is gonna be bad

Don’t you hold potential with Kellen Moore running the ship?

Personally I'm not really worried about the offense in the notion it's been bad for awhile and I don't see it as worse but I actually am a little worried about Moore's impact on Kamara as he's not had great success with RB's in the passing game, which is what AK does best.

I think for me it's because without Carr they either play with the 25 year old rookie who literally played in 7 different college season and was decent in one or Mr Ordinary Spencer Rattler. Both just bad options. Great points on Moore throwing to rbs. Has he had a decent receiving back before? If not, is he a guy that will adjust to players or force his system? I honestly don't know.

 

[menobrown]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

Always been a kamara fan. My huge red flag is that offense is gonna be bad

Don’t you hold potential with Kellen Moore running the ship?

Personally I'm not really worried about the offense in the notion it's been bad for awhile and I don't see it as worse but I actually am a little worried about Moore's impact on Kamara as he's not had great success with RB's in the passing game, which is what AK does best.

I think for me it's because without Carr they either play with the 25 year old rookie who literally played in 7 different college season and was decent in one or Mr Ordinary Spencer Rattler. Both just bad options. Great points on Moore throwing to rbs. Has he had a decent receiving back before? If not, is he a guy that will adjust to players or force his system? I honestly don't know.

I'm so down on Carr that losing him just does not move the meter to me.

Moore's coached some great receiving backs and the metrics and some of the numbers have not been great.

Zeke- he took over the Cowboys OC job in 2019, the season after Zeke had his best receiving season ever with 95/77 in only 15 games. First year under Moore in 16 games that dropped to 71/54 and kept going down. Other then targets Zeke's YPPR dropped under Moore.

Pollard-had some nice YPPR with with Moore and he has easily been the most effecient that Moore has ever used a RB but while other factors were at play we just saw Pollard have his two best seasons for targets the two years he got separated from Moore.

Ekeler-Moore arrives after Ekeler has a 127/107 season. That dropped to 74/51. Now he missed some games but in terms of per game that difference was 7.47/6.29 to 5.28/3.64. Also beside the targets and receptions going down like Zeke he saw a drop in YPPR to a career low.

Barkley-obviously that QB and weapons plays a part but without stat whipping it was easily career low usage across the chart.

Long story short some awesome pass catching RB's and a steady and consistent track record of career low type usage and other then Pollard poor to average efficiency.

 

[FarFromHome]

I'm so down on Carr that losing him just does not move the meter to me.

Ya, I'm not a big Carr guy, but he was at least a proven NFL qb. Last year he just felt horrible but if you push out his 10 games it was in the 3700 yards 25 tds 8 ints range. I don't seem anyone on this roster coming close to that. I could be completely wrong. I've had some big misses in my life. Kincaid comes to mind. Ha ha

 

[menobrown]

I'm so down on Carr that losing him just does not move the meter to me.

Ya, I'm not a big Carr guy, but he was at least a proven NFL qb. Last year he just felt horrible but if you push out his 10 games it was in the 3700 yards 25 tds 8 ints range. I don't seem anyone on this roster coming close to that. I could be completely wrong. I've had some big misses in my life. Kincaid comes to mind. Ha ha

I might just have an irrational dislike for Carr. Just not my cup of tea.

I have been a little higher on Shough then most, legit offensive rookie of the year candidate. I think I heard recently he's top 5 in that so I can't even call him a darkhorse.

 

[scothawk]

I think Kamara is a Cowboy by trade deadline

 

[FarFromHome]

I think Kamara is a Cowboy by trade deadline

Interesting

 

[Grid71]

Based on Current ADP and expert rankings, it looks AK is going to be a steal yet again this year. Lock and load RB2 that will again deliver RB1 production, available anywhere in the 3rd round.

Always been a kamara fan. My huge red flag is that offense is gonna be bad

Don’t you hold potential with Kellen Moore running the ship?

Personally I'm not really worried about the offense in the notion it's been bad for awhile and I don't see it as worse but I actually am a little worried about Moore's impact on Kamara as he's not had great success with RB's in the passing game, which is what AK does best.

I think for me it's because without Carr they either play with the 25 year old rookie who literally played in 7 different college season and was decent in one or Mr Ordinary Spencer Rattler. Both just bad options. Great points on Moore throwing to rbs. Has he had a decent receiving back before? If not, is he a guy that will adjust to players or force his system? I honestly don't know.

I'm so down on Carr that losing him just does not move the meter to me.

Moore's coached some great receiving backs and the metrics and some of the numbers have not been great.

Zeke- he took over the Cowboys OC job in 2019, the season after Zeke had his best receiving season ever with 95/77 in only 15 games. First year under Moore in 16 games that dropped to 71/54 and kept going down. Other then targets Zeke's YPPR dropped under Moore.

Pollard-had some nice YPPR with with Moore and he has easily been the most effecient that Moore has ever used a RB but while other factors were at play we just saw Pollard have his two best seasons for targets the two years he got separated from Moore.

Ekeler-Moore arrives after Ekeler has a 127/107 season. That dropped to 74/51. Now he missed some games but in terms of per game that difference was 7.47/6.29 to 5.28/3.64. Also beside the targets and receptions going down like Zeke he saw a drop in YPPR to a career low.

Barkley-obviously that QB and weapons plays a part but without stat whipping it was easily career low usage across the chart.

Long story short some awesome pass catching RB's and a steady and consistent track record of career low type usage and other then Pollard poor to average efficiency.

Downshift is more dramatic than I realized. Nice post.

Despite the facts, it's hard for me to knock Kamara down too far. Anticipate NO playing from behind quite a bit and Kamara is a warm cup of hot chocolate on a cold winter night. Any time pushing downfield looks dicey, take the check down and let AK do his thing.