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RB Ashton Jeanty, LV (4 Viewers)

397 touches in 14 games. My goodness. He had nearly 100 more rushing attempts the Omarion. Saquon had 378 in 16 games for reference...
 
Someone read their FBG email today
I just haven't heard of any college rb getting that much usage. Just seems like a crime to young a man at that age.
Derrick Henry? He had over 400 touches his final year at Alabama and he's turned out to have a pretty good NFL career.
Pretty sure Tomlinson and Barry put in a lot of work as well. Unless I’m misremembering.
Was just curious so I had to look it up. Barry at 363 touches his final year. Tomlinson at 379 touches. The gut punch though, they each did it in 11 games. Smh. Crazy. Doesn't even seem plausible to have a rb get 34 touches per game. Then the career those two had. Imagine how their bodies feel each morning getting out of bed. Must be brutal.
 
Someone read their FBG email today
I just haven't heard of any college rb getting that much usage. Just seems like a crime to young a man at that age.
Derrick Henry? He had over 400 touches his final year at Alabama and he's turned out to have a pretty good NFL career.
Pretty sure Tomlinson and Barry put in a lot of work as well. Unless I’m misremembering.
Was just curious so I had to look it up. Barry at 363 touches his final year. Tomlinson at 379 touches. The gut punch though, they each did it in 11 games. Smh. Crazy. Doesn't even seem plausible to have a rb get 34 touches per game. Then the career those two had. Imagine how their bodies feel each morning getting out of bed. Must be brutal.
Faulk had 347 touches his final season (12 games)
 
Touches/game final college season:

LT2 34
Barry 33
Marshall 29
Jeanty 28
Henry 27
Orenthal the bus driving murderer 37 :shock:
 
Jeanty is going to see an enormous amount of touches this year, very safe high pick with a lot of upside to go along with it.
RBBC is what I am hearing now

Raiders HC Pete Carroll said “I’m not relying on one guy” when asked about the team’s running back rotation.
 
Jeanty is going to see an enormous amount of touches this year, very safe high pick with a lot of upside to go along with it.
RBBC is what I am hearing now

Raiders HC Pete Carroll said “I’m not relying on one guy” when asked about the team’s running back rotation.
Nothing to see here imho. No RB takes 100% of the carries so Pete Carroll’s statement is always true.
 
Derek Brown
If you really think the Raiders are taking significant touches away from Ashton Jeanty to give them to...

Raheem Mostert
Sincere McCormick
Zamir White
Dylan Laube
Chris Collier

I don't know what to tell you besides...Good luck.
I agree. And even if it was true, who would you draft above him instead?
I’m only taking three guys ahead of him in redraft-Bijan, Saquon, and Gibbs.

I can understand people drafting Henry over him, but I’d personally go with Jeanty.
 
Derek Brown
If you really think the Raiders are taking significant touches away from Ashton Jeanty to give them to...

Raheem Mostert
Sincere McCormick
Zamir White
Dylan Laube
Chris Collier

I don't know what to tell you besides...Good luck.
I agree. And even if it was true, who would you draft above him instead?
I’m only taking three guys ahead of him in redraft-Bijan, Saquon, and Gibbs.

I can understand people drafting Henry over him, but I’d personally go with Jeanty.
I feel like its not really fair to throw Mostert in with those other guys, I can absolutely see Mostert getting more work than Jeanty drafters want to see. Mostert is only a year removed from 209-1012-18 on the ground. Not saying he's gonna be a huge factor, but I think he can absolutely be enough to keep Jeanty out of the top-5. I can certainly see arguments for CMC, Jacobs, Achane, or Irving ahead of Jeanty, but its also possible he changes the entire Raiders offense and is RB1 overall.
 
Derek Brown
If you really think the Raiders are taking significant touches away from Ashton Jeanty to give them to...

Raheem Mostert
Sincere McCormick
Zamir White
Dylan Laube
Chris Collier

I don't know what to tell you besides...Good luck.
I agree. And even if it was true, who would you draft above him instead?
I’m only taking three guys ahead of him in redraft-Bijan, Saquon, and Gibbs.

I can understand people drafting Henry over him, but I’d personally go with Jeanty.
I feel like its not really fair to throw Mostert in with those other guys, I can absolutely see Mostert getting more work than Jeanty drafters want to see. Mostert is only a year removed from 209-1012-18 on the ground. Not saying he's gonna be a huge factor, but I think he can absolutely be enough to keep Jeanty out of the top-5. I can certainly see arguments for CMC, Jacobs, Achane, or Irving ahead of Jeanty, but its also possible he changes the entire Raiders offense and is RB1 overall.

Well really he is two years removed from that, or at least will be by the time the season starts.

What a 33 year old did 2 years ago may as well have been 10 years ago in most cases though. How many guys really bounce back from a terrible year at age 33? Frank Gore I guess, but 99% of the time when a 32 year old falls off a cliff, he doesn't climb back up it.

I get what you're saying as a whole and think it's fair, but was just commenting on that. I don't think Mostert's age 31 season is very relevant anymore. He's hit the wall.
 
Well really he is two years removed from that, or at least will be by the time the season starts.

What a 33 year old did 2 years ago may as well have been 10 years ago in most cases though. How many guys really bounce back from a terrible year at age 33? Frank Gore I guess, but 99% of the time when a 32 year old falls off a cliff, he doesn't climb back up it.

I get what you're saying as a whole and think it's fair, but was just commenting on that. I don't think Mostert's age 31 season is very relevant anymore. He's hit the wall.
I'm sure I am reading too much into this, but I think Mostert coming on board means they don't think much of Zamir White. I doubt Mostert gets any of the goalline work, I think he'll get a series here or there.

Remains to be seen how many catches Jeanty gets, so it's fair to wonder about his ceiling. Mostert can siphon some catches I guess.
 
Derek Brown
If you really think the Raiders are taking significant touches away from Ashton Jeanty to give them to...

Raheem Mostert
Sincere McCormick
Zamir White
Dylan Laube
Chris Collier

I don't know what to tell you besides...Good luck.
I agree. And even if it was true, who would you draft above him instead?
I’m only taking three guys ahead of him in redraft-Bijan, Saquon, and Gibbs.

I can understand people drafting Henry over him, but I’d personally go with Jeanty.
I assume you mean of the RB's and not all positions. i would be taking Chase, Jefferson, Lamb ahead of Jeanty as well.
 
Derek Brown
If you really think the Raiders are taking significant touches away from Ashton Jeanty to give them to...

Raheem Mostert
Sincere McCormick
Zamir White
Dylan Laube
Chris Collier

I don't know what to tell you besides...Good luck.
I agree. And even if it was true, who would you draft above him instead?
I’m only taking three guys ahead of him in redraft-Bijan, Saquon, and Gibbs.

I can understand people drafting Henry over him, but I’d personally go with Jeanty.
I assume you mean of the RB's and not all positions. i would be taking Chase, Jefferson, Lamb ahead of Jeanty as well.
Correct. I would take all those wrs over him as well.
 
Well really he is two years removed from that, or at least will be by the time the season starts.

What a 33 year old did 2 years ago may as well have been 10 years ago in most cases though. How many guys really bounce back from a terrible year at age 33? Frank Gore I guess, but 99% of the time when a 32 year old falls off a cliff, he doesn't climb back up it.

I get what you're saying as a whole and think it's fair, but was just commenting on that. I don't think Mostert's age 31 season is very relevant anymore. He's hit the wall.
I'm sure I am reading too much into this, but I think Mostert coming on board means they don't think much of Zamir White. I doubt Mostert gets any of the goalline work, I think he'll get a series here or there.

Remains to be seen how many catches Jeanty gets, so it's fair to wonder about his ceiling. Mostert can siphon some catches I guess.
I trust Chip and Pete to get the most out of all of them
 
As a Raiders fan, not that it matters, I am buying zero of the hype surrounding Mostert. Not one bit.

Push+shove=Jeanty

Mostert's touch ceiling is 150 and I'll take the under.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
Probably right. This is the Raiders though.
:oldunsure:
This isn't going to be like Bijan's rookie season when he shared 272-204 with Allgeier. It's gonna be more like Saquon's rookie season, when he shared 352-65 with Gallman. Or maybe even like Dickerson's rookie season when he shared 441-79 with some guy no one will ever remember. OK, I am going off the deep end here. My actual thought is about 320-100.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
Probably right. This is the Raiders though.
:oldunsure:
This isn't going to be like Bijan's rookie season when he shared 272-204 with Allgeier. It's gonna be more like Saquon's rookie season, when he shared 352-65 with Gallman. Or maybe even like Dickerson's rookie season when he shared 441-79 with some guy no one will ever remember. OK, I am going off the deep end here. My actual thought is about 320-100.
Once again, preaching to the choir. However, counterpoint: Raiders.

The volume of your post has a certain “lady doth protest too much” vibe to it.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
That guy is a pretty good beat writer and I'm for sure not everyone here, I think it's most likely to be true, makes all the sense in the world. At least that's how the season will start and performance will dictate roles as the season goes on.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
*BUZZ*
"Who is: Tyler Allgeier?"
He's a guy who split 365 to 150 last year with Bijan
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
Probably right. This is the Raiders though.
:oldunsure:
This isn't going to be like Bijan's rookie season when he shared 272-204 with Allgeier. It's gonna be more like Saquon's rookie season, when he shared 352-65 with Gallman. Or maybe even like Dickerson's rookie season when he shared 441-79 with some guy no one will ever remember. OK, I am going off the deep end here. My actual thought is about 320-100.
Once again, preaching to the choir. However, counterpoint: Raiders.

The volume of your post has a certain “lady doth protest too much” vibe to it.
I thought that was just a cheeky counterpoint.

Do you really believe this Raiders team, with Pete Carroll and Tom Brady running the show, is going to look anything like last year's team, or any previous Raiders team of the last 25 years?

I put Mostert's absolute perfect world touch count max at 150.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
*BUZZ*
"Who is: Tyler Allgeier?"
He's a guy who split 365 to 150 last year with Bijan
He's also not Raherm Mostert.

On a side note, it's a little known fact but, if you look at his long form birth certificate, Raherm Mostert is actually 75 years old.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
*BUZZ*
"Who is: Tyler Allgeier?"
He's a guy who split 365 to 150 last year with Bijan
272-204 in Bijan's rookie season. Jeanty is a rookie.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
*BUZZ*
"Who is: Tyler Allgeier?"
He's a guy who split 365 to 150 last year with Bijan
He's also not Raherm Mostert.

On a side note, it's a little known fact but, if you look at his long form birth certificate, Raherm Mostert is actually 75 years old.
I'm not sure of being "not Raheem Mostert" is intended to mean he is better or worse. But Mostert somehow has averaged 5.0 yards per carry over his career.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
*BUZZ*
"Who is: Tyler Allgeier?"
He's a guy who split 365 to 150 last year with Bijan
272-204 in Bijan's rookie season. Jeanty is a rookie.
Quite a bit different from Allgeier to Mostert.
In Bijan's rookie season, Allgeier was a 23 year old coming off his rookie season where he had 226 touches and 1174 total yards.
In Jeanty's rookie season, Mostert will be a 33 year old coming off a season where he had 104 touches and 439 total yards

Nobody knew who Mostert was until he had 18 TD's in 2023. He had a whopping 284 carries before the age of 30. Rookie Bijan split 57/43 with Allgeier. I will bet my house Mostert is nowhere near 43%.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
*BUZZ*
"Who is: Tyler Allgeier?"
He's a guy who split 365 to 150 last year with Bijan
He's also not Raherm Mostert.

On a side note, it's a little known fact but, if you look at his long form birth certificate, Raherm Mostert is actually 75 years old.
I'm not sure of being "not Raheem Mostert" is intended to mean he is better or worse. But Mostert somehow has averaged 5.0 yards per carry over his career.
I think you probably have a feeling about what that means in 2025.
 
The Athletic’s Tashan Reed believes Raiders RB Raheem Mostert “will be the primary third-down back.”
That person is flat out wrong and everyone knows it. The primary back on all downs will be Jeanty. He is a good receiver and the only reason to take him out is for a breather.
*BUZZ*
"Who is: Tyler Allgeier?"
He's a guy who split 365 to 150 last year with Bijan
272-204 in Bijan's rookie season. Jeanty is a rookie.
Quite a bit different from Allgeier to Mostert.
In Bijan's rookie season, Allgeier was a 23 year old coming off his rookie season where he had 226 touches and 1174 total yards.
In Jeanty's rookie season, Mostert will be a 33 year old coming off a season where he had 104 touches and 439 total yards

Nobody knew who Mostert was until he had 18 TD's in 2023. He had a whopping 284 carries before the age of 30. Rookie Bijan split 57/43 with Allgeier. I will bet my house Mostert is nowhere near 43%.
Can we see some pics of your house? How old are the kitchen appliances? Do you have a yard?
 

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