RB Bijan Robinson, ATL (2 Viewers)

[travdogg]

You should never say never, unless the discussion is should we take an RB in the 1st. A HoF RB has less impact (over replacement level) than every position except punter and kicker.

Even with that evidence, I'm gonna disagree about taking a RB in the first round. Its not the ideal position to take, but I think exceptions exist (there shouldn't have been a single 1st round RB between Barkley and Bijan imo) and passing on a great RB, doesn't mean you are adding a great (or even good) player elsewhere.

Correct. It’s just that result would have been the same if you took an average RB in the 3rd or 4th (in terms of WAR.)

Not arguing with ya, I’m cognizant he’s a great player - probably the 2nd best player in the entire draft. It sucks that Edge8 or OG2 is more valuable. I like RBs.

I guess I more view WAR as a flawed stat in the NFL. It makes more sense in MLB I think, where its essentially a 1-1 sport. 11-11 is so much different to me.

I think SF doesn't make the NFC Championship game last year without the CMC trade.

 

[menobrown]

Drafting a Rb in round one is perfectly ok just so long as you don't have a position other then maybe a C or LB with a first round grade left on the board.

This kind of reminds me of Jim Nagy's tweet where he said NFL teams only have one consensus first round WR, which is JSN. That just means you should not expect any other WR's to go in the top 15, but later in round one when the first round graded players are gone you are going to see some WR's drafted in round one.

Ballard said the other day he had 17 players graded as first round players. Beane would not give his number but said it was low. It's typically in the 15-20 range most years but this year it's expected to be low and my guess is it's more in the 15-17 type of range. I have contended this entire off-season and will stay the course that Bijan will get drafted to a team when they are at the end of their first round graded players. As such he is not going top 10, most likely in the mid teens/early 20's.

 

[travdogg]

Want the Bucs to get this guy. I know it’s not the best from a team building perspective but who cares football should be fun and he’d be a blast to watch. And with Evans and Godwin should make for an excellent offense if they can get decent QB play.

Not that this applies to Bijan necessarily, but when was the last time one of these “generational RBs” paid off in the win department?

Revisionist history with Saquon, Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fournette.. Losses, injuries, hold outs, big contracts, released, traded.

The argument for RB early can really only be made for a team with an open 3-year championship window. Get over the hump luxury. Eagles. Bills.

He’d be wasted on the Bucs. Fun, sure. But we got a taste of what consistent winning feels like and I’d rather not go back to Cadillac Williams over Aaron Rodgers kinds of decisions.

You can really say this about any position other than QB. No single player can turn around a bad team other than a great QB. So beyond that, there's really a lot of outside forces at play as to whether a bad team with a high non-QB pick ends up turning it around eventually or not, but any non-QB is merely going to be a small piece of that.

I get the argument about shorter shelf life and a shorter prime, but a great RB can have just as large an effect on a team as a great OT or CB or WR or basically any non-QB position other than maybe elite pass rusher (though plenty of elite pass rushers on bad teams over the years as well).

That's more in line with how I see it. A great QB with a bad supporting cast likely beats a great team with a bad QB.

I think individual OL are probably overrated in general, as often an OL is only as good as its weakest link. Same can probably apply to DBs at times too. Shorter shelf life is definitely a thing for RBs, and that should factor in a lot.

But I would agree that after QB its all kind of background noise and I would say more about group value (pass rush, coverage, receiving etc.) than any 1 individual player. Which is why I have no problem with the MVP award basically just being the best QB award. It probably should have happened sooner. The non-QB MVPs going back to 1991 are:

2012 Adrian Peterson (should have been Manning)
2006 LaDainian Tomlinson (should have been Brees)
2005 Shaun Alexander (should have been Manning)
2000 Marshall Faulk (should have been Gannon)
1998 Terrell Davis (should have been Cunningham)
1993 Emmitt Smith (should have been Young)
1991 Thurman Thomas (should have been Kelly)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

something reasonable people can disagree upon.

Who are these “reasonable people” of which you speak?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think SF doesn't make the NFC Championship game last year without the CMC trade.

Obviously so since Mitchell was hurt.

But had Mitchell not been hurt, that statement may not be accurate.

 

[Grahamburn]

Want the Bucs to get this guy. I know it’s not the best from a team building perspective but who cares football should be fun and he’d be a blast to watch. And with Evans and Godwin should make for an excellent offense if they can get decent QB play.

Not that this applies to Bijan necessarily, but when was the last time one of these “generational RBs” paid off in the win department?

Revisionist history with Saquon, Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fournette.. Losses, injuries, hold outs, big contracts, released, traded.

The argument for RB early can really only be made for a team with an open 3-year championship window. Get over the hump luxury. Eagles. Bills.

He’d be wasted on the Bucs. Fun, sure. But we got a taste of what consistent winning feels like and I’d rather not go back to Cadillac Williams over Aaron Rodgers kinds of decisions.

You can really say this about any position other than QB. No single player can turn around a bad team other than a great QB. So beyond that, there's really a lot of outside forces at play as to whether a bad team with a high non-QB pick ends up turning it around eventually or not, but any non-QB is merely going to be a small piece of that.

I get the argument about shorter shelf life and a shorter prime, but a great RB can have just as large an effect on a team as a great OT or CB or WR or basically any non-QB position other than maybe elite pass rusher (though plenty of elite pass rushers on bad teams over the years as well).

Sure. The gap for QB to RB is enormous in terms of value. But, there’s still a huge gap for great tackles and edge players, corners, receivers, LBs and guards. Just follow the money.

You also have to factor in paying Bijan the same contract that you’d be paying that great player at another position. There’s a big opportunity cost there in roster construction.

He’s a great prospect, but he’s not any more immune to busting than Trent Richardson was. He’s no less immune to injury than Saquon has been.

 

[Grahamburn]

Drafting a Rb in round one is perfectly ok just so long as you don't have a position other than maybe a C or LB with a first round grade left on the board.

The data bears out that it just isn’t ok though and it isn’t something smart teams should be doing.

Also, what are the chances teams don’t have a first round grade on a player at a much more valuable position?

 

[Capella]

Also, what are the chances teams don’t have a first round grade on a player at a much more valuable position?

By 19, pretty good. Licht has said before in previous drafts that he only had something like 17 first round grades. Obviously a few will slip through.

 

[Grahamburn]

Also, what are the chances teams don’t have a first round grade on a player at a much more valuable position?

By 19, pretty good. Licht has said before in previous drafts that he only had something like 17 first round grades. Obviously a few will slip through.

I won’t be upset if they draft him. Seems like he has as good a chance as anyone to be a great player. Or a better chance. I just agree with the data that it’s not the most efficient use of resources.

 

[heckmanm]

All of the "should you or shouldn't you" NFL draft discussion aside, he's still FF 1.01, right? Is there a landing spot that moves him off of that?

(and if not, perhaps that's why everything in this thread is about the NFL draft, since there's not much to discuss/debate for fantasy until he gets drafted for real)

 

[massraider]

You should never say never, unless the discussion is should we take an RB in the 1st. A HoF RB has less impact (over replacement level) than every position except punter and kicker.

Even with that evidence, I'm gonna disagree about taking a RB in the first round. Its not the ideal position to take, but I think exceptions exist (there shouldn't have been a single 1st round RB between Barkley and Bijan imo) and passing on a great RB, doesn't mean you are adding a great (or even good) player elsewhere.

This, all day long.

Players getting drafted around Bijan will have a much lower chance of success.

A telling sign is that people make the argument in theory, rather than saying, I hope my team takes Myles Murphy instead of Bijan.

 

[Grahamburn]

All of the "should you or shouldn't you" NFL draft discussion aside, he's still FF 1.01, right? Is there a landing spot that moves him off of that?

(and if not, perhaps that's why everything in this thread is about the NFL draft, since there's not much to discuss/debate for fantasy until he gets drafted for real)

If you love JSN and he goes to a team with a great QB the argument could be made.

 

[Grahamburn]

You should never say never, unless the discussion is should we take an RB in the 1st. A HoF RB has less impact (over replacement level) than every position except punter and kicker.

Even with that evidence, I'm gonna disagree about taking a RB in the first round. Its not the ideal position to take, but I think exceptions exist (there shouldn't have been a single 1st round RB between Barkley and Bijan imo) and passing on a great RB, doesn't mean you are adding a great (or even good) player elsewhere.

This, all day long.

Players getting drafted around Bijan will have a much lower chance of success.

A telling sign is that people make the argument in theory, rather than saying, I hope my team takes Myles Murphy instead of Bijan.

There just aren’t any absolutes though regardless of how great of a prospect he is. What are the chances Bijan busts or worse, just gets injured?

Look at the 2018 draft and tell me with a straight face the giants don’t wish they’d made a different choice.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

All of the "should you or shouldn't you" NFL draft discussion aside, he's still FF 1.01, right? Is there a landing spot that moves him off of that?

1000%

 

[massraider]

You should never say never, unless the discussion is should we take an RB in the 1st. A HoF RB has less impact (over replacement level) than every position except punter and kicker.

Even with that evidence, I'm gonna disagree about taking a RB in the first round. Its not the ideal position to take, but I think exceptions exist (there shouldn't have been a single 1st round RB between Barkley and Bijan imo) and passing on a great RB, doesn't mean you are adding a great (or even good) player elsewhere.

This, all day long.

Players getting drafted around Bijan will have a much lower chance of success.

A telling sign is that people make the argument in theory, rather than saying, I hope my team takes Myles Murphy instead of Bijan.

There just aren’t any absolutes though regardless of how great of a prospect he is. What are the chances Bijan busts or worse, just gets injured?

Look at the 2018 draft and tell me with a straight face the giants don’t wish they’d made a different choice.

I'm not saying take BIjan with a top 10 pick.The Giants, and Cowboys (Zeke) made a mistake.

I agree with the game theory of waiting on running back.

But I think the game theory of getting good players comes into play in the mid 1st, and 2nd round. I don't want my team (or fans) to congratulate themselves when a team takes a pass rusher or a corner who sucks, because they had the right process. BPA should still matter, especially when you are looking at a top 5 talent, vs a guy you have a 2nd round grade on.

 

[rockaction]

All of the "should you or shouldn't you" NFL draft discussion aside, he's still FF 1.01, right?

It's a no-brainer to me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you love JSN and he goes to a team with a great QB the argument could be made.

I would suggest you’d be leaving a ton of value on the table.

If JSN goes to the Chiefs and becomes the presumed WR1, I have no issue with anyone preferring him over Bijan - but if that happens, deal the 1.01 to the 1.02 team in standard, or even 1.03 in SF.

So I would say the 1.01 is still Bijan regardless. If you take JSN 1.01, 1.02 is doing backflips elated by their good fortune, wondering why you didn’t trade with them to profit.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Hope the Lions take Myles Murphy instead of a RB

 

[Capella]

Also, what are the chances teams don’t have a first round grade on a player at a much more valuable position?

By 19, pretty good. Licht has said before in previous drafts that he only had something like 17 first round grades. Obviously a few will slip through.

I won’t be upset if they draft him. Seems like he has as good a chance as anyone to be a great player. Or a better chance. I just agree with the data that it’s not the most efficient use of resources.

No doubt about it. I’m hoping for a tackle or the OSU wideout or this kid.

 

[Grahamburn]

If you love JSN and he goes to a team with a great QB the argument could be made.

I would suggest you’d be leaving a ton of value on the table.

If JSN goes to the Chiefs and becomes the presumed WR1, I have no issue with anyone preferring him over Bijan - but if that happens, deal the 1.01 to the 1.02 team in standard, or even 1.03 in SF.

So I would say the 1.01 is still Bijan regardless. If you take JSN 1.01, 1.02 is doing backflips elated by their good fortune, wondering why you didn’t trade with them to profit.

Well, obviously we don't know landing spots yet. I'll say this, if I'm the 1.02 and the 1.01 is asking me about a trade then I kind of already know he's wavering on who to take and may just sit tight. Just saying in today's NFL the WRs seem to be scoring significantly more points than RBs. Yes, scarcity.

What if Houston takes JSN and you start thinking about years and years of production from him and whoever they draft #2. Bijan goes to RB purgatory in Chicago or something where you have a bad line and Fields mucking up his numbers.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you love JSN and he goes to a team with a great QB the argument could be made.

I would suggest you’d be leaving a ton of value on the table.

If JSN goes to the Chiefs and becomes the presumed WR1, I have no issue with anyone preferring him over Bijan - but if that happens, deal the 1.01 to the 1.02 team in standard, or even 1.03 in SF.

So I would say the 1.01 is still Bijan regardless. If you take JSN 1.01, 1.02 is doing backflips elated by their good fortune, wondering why you didn’t trade with them to profit.

Well, obviously we don't know landing spots yet. I'll say this, if I'm the 1.02 and the 1.01 is asking me about a trade then I kind of already know he's wavering on who to take and may just sit tight. Just saying in today's NFL the WRs seem to be scoring significantly more points than RBs. Yes, scarcity.

What if Houston takes JSN and you start thinking about years and years of production from him and whoever they draft #2. Bijan goes to RB purgatory in Chicago or something where you have a bad line and Fields mucking up his numbers.

It’s a lot of mystery I agree.

But the vast majority of FF circles have Bijan at 1.01, and if you sell to the 1.02 you can ask them who they’d want if they made the deal.

In general I’d say 99% of leagues Bijan is 1.01 and JSN will be relatively safe, regardless of where Bijan lands.

 

[travdogg]

All of the "should you or shouldn't you" NFL draft discussion aside, he's still FF 1.01, right? Is there a landing spot that moves him off of that?

(and if not, perhaps that's why everything in this thread is about the NFL draft, since there's not much to discuss/debate for fantasy until he gets drafted for real)

There are landing spots that would push me off Bijan at #1. Dallas would, as would LAC without a corresponding Ekeler trade.

Especially if Gibbs or JSN have excellent landing spots. Could probably also make a case for Richardson if he goes somewhere he is starting day 1, especially in Superflex.

ETA: I HIGHLY doubt there is any chance Bijan ends up in either LA or Dallas though. Maybe 5% chance if one of them trades up, which I would agree would be crazy for a RB.

You should never say never, unless the discussion is should we take an RB in the 1st. A HoF RB has less impact (over replacement level) than every position except punter and kicker.

Even with that evidence, I'm gonna disagree about taking a RB in the first round. Its not the ideal position to take, but I think exceptions exist (there shouldn't have been a single 1st round RB between Barkley and Bijan imo) and passing on a great RB, doesn't mean you are adding a great (or even good) player elsewhere.

This, all day long.

Players getting drafted around Bijan will have a much lower chance of success.

A telling sign is that people make the argument in theory, rather than saying, I hope my team takes Myles Murphy instead of Bijan.

As a Bears fan, I'm ok if they take Bijan at #9. I'd prefer Carter, Witherspoon, Skoronski or someone like that, or a trade down, but I'd certainly prefer Bijan to Myles Murphy, Paris Johnson, or Calijah Kancey.

 

[rockaction]

There is no landing spot that would push me off Bijan. Wherever he goes, he's going to be the lead back and the alpha dog in a year tops. You might have to wait four games for him to assert dominance, but he'll get the job and run with it. Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles, anywhere.

 

[massraider]

As a Bears fan, I'm ok if they take Bijan at #9.

There's some combos I would love to see, and I think the Bijan/Bears combo would be awesome.

For all the whinging and whining about positional need, I would love to see a running QB with a premier running back.

 

[travdogg]

As a Bears fan, I'm ok if they take Bijan at #9.

There's some combos I would love to see, and I think the Bijan/Bears combo would be awesome.

For all the whinging and whining about positional need, I would love to see a running QB with a premier running back.

Especially with the receiving talent Chicago (or especially Philly) has on hand already.

Its so hard to defend a running QB and an elite RB. If the QB can pass its almost unstoppable, and even if he can't, its still tough to stop, especially as modern defenses aren't built to stop the run.

Frankly, I was extremely disappointed when Willis was starting for the Titans how little they used him as a runner. Like, we saw that he couldn't pass, maybe try the thing he is good at? They likely win the division if they had.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

For all the whinging and whining about positional need, I would love to see a running QB with a premier running back

In real football this is it. Philly would be very interesting to watch.

 

[massraider]

For all the whinging and whining about positional need, I would love to see a running QB with a premier running back

In real football this is it. Philly would be very interesting to watch.

I believe every Eagles fan who tells me they won't take him. I do think he would help them win a title in the next few years more than any other guy they might take with their pick.

 

[menobrown]

There is no landing spot that would push me off Bijan. Wherever he goes, he's going to be the lead back and the alpha dog in a year tops. You might have to wait four games for him to assert dominance, but he'll get the job and run with it. Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles, anywhere.

What about Seattle?

 

[rockaction]

What about Seattle?

That's dirty.

LOL.

Yeah, I would think that if any of the Jets or Seattle or Indianapolis drafted him, I'd do some thinking about it. I guess I shouldn't have been so absolute. There is no landing spot within the realm of real possibility that would push me off of him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

There is no landing spot that would push me off Bijan. Wherever he goes, he's going to be the lead back and the alpha dog in a year tops. You might have to wait four games for him to assert dominance, but he'll get the job and run with it. Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles, anywhere.

What about Seattle?

Considering SEA has taken exactly 1 offensive skill player in the 1st round in the last 22 years (Penny), and they have Walker, color me skeptical that this will happen.

But if it did, I would take it as a scathing indictment of Walker and would wonder what exactly his upcoming suspension was for, or how he got hurt.

And along with that, I would assume Bijan would be the bellcow within a year.

IMO it’s far more likely that SEA takes a pass catching COP back on day 3.

 

[menobrown]

There is no landing spot that would push me off Bijan. Wherever he goes, he's going to be the lead back and the alpha dog in a year tops. You might have to wait four games for him to assert dominance, but he'll get the job and run with it. Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles, anywhere.

What about Seattle?

Considering SEA has taken exactly 1 offensive skill player in the 1st round in the last 22 years (Penny), and they have Walker, color me skeptical that this will happen.

But if it did, I would take it as a scathing indictment of Walker and would wonder what exactly his upcoming suspension was for, or how he got hurt.

And along with that, I would assume Bijan would be the bellcow within a year.

IMO it’s far more likely that SEA takes a pass catching COP back on day 3.

I mentioned it because I just listened to a beat writer mock draft podcast and the Seattle beat writer for The Athletic, Michael Shawn-Dugar, chose Bijan with their second first round pick. I also read an article he wrote a week or so ago saying he would not find it surprising if Seattle took him.

Despite what he says I'd be surprised and Ross Tucker was one of the moderators of the mock and he hammered the pick, called it stupid.

If it did happen, and again I don't think it would, I don't think it would mean one iota of anything negative on Walker and there would not be a bellcow on this team so long as both are healthy. Which is one of many reasons it makes no sense to me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

There is no landing spot that would push me off Bijan. Wherever he goes, he's going to be the lead back and the alpha dog in a year tops. You might have to wait four games for him to assert dominance, but he'll get the job and run with it. Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles, anywhere.

What about Seattle?

Considering SEA has taken exactly 1 offensive skill player in the 1st round in the last 22 years (Penny), and they have Walker, color me skeptical that this will happen.

But if it did, I would take it as a scathing indictment of Walker and would wonder what exactly his upcoming suspension was for, or how he got hurt.

And along with that, I would assume Bijan would be the bellcow within a year.

IMO it’s far more likely that SEA takes a pass catching COP back on day 3.

I mentioned it because I just listened to a beat writer mock draft podcast and the Seattle beat writer for The Athletic, Michael Shawn-Dugar, chose Bijan with their second first round pick. I also read an article he wrote a week or so ago saying he would not find it surprising if Seattle took him.

Despite what he says I'd be surprised and Ross Tucker was one of the moderators of the mock and he hammered the pick, called it stupid.

If it did happen, and again I don't think it would, I don't think it would mean one iota of anything negative on Walker and there would not be a bellcow on this team so long as both are healthy. Which is one of many reasons it makes no sense to me.

Got it.

Seattle would be hammered mercilessly for such a pick. And considering how poorly Penny worked out as a 1st rounder, I would be absolutely dumbfounded by such a selection.

But it’s an interesting discussion, that’s for sure.

 

[rockaction]

If it did happen

the team most likely not to care about the repercussions of selecting an RB that early when their RB situation is already settled, it's Seattle. I can see it if I squint hard enough at the sun.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If it did happen

the team most likely not to care about the repercussions of selecting an RB that early when their RB situation is already settled, it's Seattle. I can see it if I squint hard enough at the sun.

A small request: do not put this mojo into the world.

TIA

 

[travdogg]

Seattle is pretty damn unlikely. In my opinion:

Most likely:
Arizona, Chicago, Detroit, Houston, Philly, Tampa, Washington

Would surprise, but possible:
Atlanta, Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City, New Orleans

Not likely for whatever reason:
Cincinnati, Dallas, Indy, Jacksonville, LA Chargers, Minnesota, New England, NY Giants, NY Jets, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Tennessee

Not happening:
Carolina, Cleveland, Denver, Green Bay, Las Vegas, LA Rams, Miami, San Fran

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Cincinnati

LA Chargers,

I have these as possible, leaning towards likely landing spots.

He’d be in a timeshare in LAC for a year, but CIN could release Mixon, draft Bijan & it would be an absolute jackpot landing spot.

 

[massraider]

Houston takes ARich and Bijan.

That would be fun.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Houston takes ARich and Bijan.

That would be fun.

Boo this man.


Boooooooooooooo!

 

[travdogg]

Cincinnati

LA Chargers,

I have these as possible, leaning towards likely landing spots.

He’d be in a timeshare in LAC for a year, but CIN could release Mixon, draft Bijan & it would be an absolute jackpot landing spot.

I'd be shocked if he made to #28, and the Bengals are highly unlikely to trade up.

I could be reading it wrong, but I think the Chargers are just playing hardball with Ekeler, but have no real intention of moving on.

Houston takes ARich and Bijan.

That would be fun.

That'd be an interesting idea. Same for Detroit.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I could be reading it wrong, but I think the Chargers are just playing hardball with Ekeler, but have no real intention of moving on.

I don’t doubt that either, but his age and contract situation both point to potentially dealing up a few picks to take the cheaper rookie, while letting him play out his contract.

Win-win for LAC. Plus they add an another weapon in both run and passing game, reducing Eke’s workload in the process.

Personally I’m hoping for the Bengals to deal up, regardless that I know they likely won’t.

 

[travdogg]

I could be reading it wrong, but I think the Chargers are just playing hardball with Ekeler, but have no real intention of moving on.

I don’t doubt that either, but his age and contract situation both point to potentially dealing up a few picks to take the cheaper rookie, while letting him play out his contract.

Win-win for LAC. Plus they add an another weapon in both run and passing game, reducing Eke’s workload in the process.

Personally I’m hoping for the Bengals to deal up, regardless that I know they likely won’t.

I think the 3 best landing spots for fantasy would be:

Atlanta. 3rd in rushing last season, with an equal amount of rushing and passing TDs, in a division with pretty mediocre defenses. I think C-Patt probably plays more slot/returner in that scenario with Allgeier as the #2.

Tampa, he'd instantly be a 300+ touch guy and be facing the same mediocre defenses.

Philly, he'd be a 300+ touch guy instantly (Sanders had 279 last year, and he's FAR less talented and versatile) on a team that had 8 more rushing TDs than any other team, and it wasn't just because of Hurts, as Miles Sanders had 11 despite being a highly ineffective short yardage runner. Only issue there would be the boom/bust nature of Philly's offense, whether its a big passing week or big rushing week.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Per draftkings the first draft position where he is the favourite to go is #8. That would be Atlanta or whoever might trade up for it.

 

[zamboni]

Per draftkings the first draft position where he is the favourite to go is #8. That would be Atlanta or whoever might trade up for it.

Atlanta would not surprise me at all if there are no defensive players the team is enamored with. Allgiers played very well last year but he's not Bijan and this would create a dynamic run-based offense with two dynamic pass catchers in which Ridder could just manage the scheme. And if Ridder isn't up to the task, they can get their future QB next year. The team already has an up and coming defense, so they may be in position to just go BPA.

 

[Amused to Death]

Shooting up boards this weekend, top ten is on the table. People went from saying Detroit might take him at 18 to saying they’ll have to move up with their 2nd first rounder to get him.

Whose draft boards? Draftniks and beat writers?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Shooting up boards this weekend, top ten is on the table. People went from saying Detroit might take him at 18 to saying they’ll have to move up with their 2nd first rounder to get him.

Whose draft boards? Draftniks and beat writers?

PFF moved him from 23 to 8 over the weekend, which I believe is where Vegas has him now as well

Whereas most mocks had him going roughly 18-26, seems like now he's always being projected to go inside the top 15 (anecdotal)

However, that's just my perception....looking at a trend graph rn it looks flat (narrow band of 18 to 21 and holding steady)

In conclusion....let me amend that to say my confirmation bias tells me Bijan is shooting up draft boards!!!!

 

[travdogg]

Per draftkings the first draft position where he is the favourite to go is #8. That would be Atlanta or whoever might trade up for it.

Atlanta would not surprise me at all if there are no defensive players the team is enamored with. Allgiers played very well last year but he's not Bijan and this would create a dynamic run-based offense with two dynamic pass catchers in which Ridder could just manage the scheme. And if Ridder isn't up to the task, they can get their future QB next year. The team already has an up and coming defense, so they may be in position to just go BPA.

If the Falcons take Bijan at 8, and the Titans take a QB at 11 or trade up, I think there is strong chance of the Falcons trading for Tannehill and sort of mirror the 2019 Titans offense, before their pass catchers and OL fell to pieces.

 

[Faust]

Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer reports Texas RB Bijan Robinson has been "consistently connected" to the Falcons.​

Breer said the Falcons taking Robinson with the eighth pick in the draft would make sense considering Atlanta head coach Arthur Smith "built an imposing, dominant offense in Tennessee around a bell cow back, which allowed him to manage the quarterback spot a little differently." Robinson landing in Atlanta would immediately tank the fantasy prospects of Tyler Allgeier, who was impressive as a rookie in 2022 with 1,035 yards on just 210 rushes in the massively run-heavy Falcons offense. Robinson would serve as the focal point in the hyper-conservative Atlanta offense and would be a first-round fantasy pick in all formats.
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SOURCE: SI.com
Apr 24, 2023, 11:16 AM ET

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer reports Texas RB Bijan Robinson has been "consistently connected" to the Falcons.​

Breer said the Falcons taking Robinson with the eighth pick in the draft would make sense considering Atlanta head coach Arthur Smith "built an imposing, dominant offense in Tennessee around a bell cow back, which allowed him to manage the quarterback spot a little differently." Robinson landing in Atlanta would immediately tank the fantasy prospects of Tyler Allgeier, who was impressive as a rookie in 2022 with 1,035 yards on just 210 rushes in the massively run-heavy Falcons offense. Robinson would serve as the focal point in the hyper-conservative Atlanta offense and would be a first-round fantasy pick in all formats.
RELATED:

• Tyler Allgeier
• , Atlanta Falcons

SOURCE: SI.com
Apr 24, 2023, 11:16 AM ET

In a weird way I wouldn’t hate this, as ATL has consistently found a way to have production at the RB position.

We can collectively hold a wake for Allgeier’s FF value, maybe say a few nice things about the glory days of Patterson while we’re at it.

The only part I don’t love is that in the league I’m taking Bijan I already have Pitts. Slightly less than ideal, and I would very much prefer Bijan go to a contender.

But as far as landing spots go, ATL isn’t terrible.

 

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Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer reports Texas RB Bijan Robinson has been "consistently connected" to the Falcons.​

Breer said the Falcons taking Robinson with the eighth pick in the draft would make sense considering Atlanta head coach Arthur Smith "built an imposing, dominant offense in Tennessee around a bell cow back, which allowed him to manage the quarterback spot a little differently." Robinson landing in Atlanta would immediately tank the fantasy prospects of Tyler Allgeier, who was impressive as a rookie in 2022 with 1,035 yards on just 210 rushes in the massively run-heavy Falcons offense. Robinson would serve as the focal point in the hyper-conservative Atlanta offense and would be a first-round fantasy pick in all formats.
RELATED:

• Tyler Allgeier
• , Atlanta Falcons

SOURCE: SI.com
Apr 24, 2023, 11:16 AM ET

In a weird way I wouldn’t hate this, as ATL has consistently found a way to have production at the RB position.

We can collectively hold a wake for Allgeier’s FF value, maybe say a few nice things about the glory days of Patterson while we’re at it.

The only part I don’t love is that in the league I’m taking Bijan I already have Pitts. Slightly less than ideal, and I would very much prefer Bijan go to a contender.

But as far as landing spots go, ATL isn’t terrible.

I'd be totally good with Atlanta. It would also be nice just due to the #8 pick capital spent on him, assuming no trade is involved.

 

[Tanner9919]

he's going in the top 10. either by a trade-up, or to the Eagles, the Bears, Lions, texans, or falcons. I could see NE moving up to top 10 to get him.
he's another Barkley, another sure handed WR from the backfield, a beast to bring down can't miss prospect like Manning was to the QB ranks.
this guy is a better zeke elliott coming out of college. I'd also think the Bills are a dark horse to trade up here. imagine that guy on that team.